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{{helpme-helped}} Please can someone review/clean this article? [[User:Zadradr|Zadradr]] ([[User talk:Zadradr|talk]]) 15:35, 20 September 2011 (UTC) |
{{helpme-helped}} Please can someone review/clean this article? [[User:Zadradr|Zadradr]] ([[User talk:Zadradr|talk]]) 15:35, 20 September 2011 (UTC) |
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:{{Done}}--[[User:Breawycker|Breawycker]] ([[User talk:Breawycker|talk to me!]]) 17:19, 20 September 2011 (UTC) |
:{{Done}}--[[User:Breawycker|Breawycker]] ([[User talk:Breawycker|talk to me!]]) 17:19, 20 September 2011 (UTC) |
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== Orphaned references in [[:Tecnam P2012 Traveller]] == |
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I check pages listed in [[:Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting]] to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for [[User:AnomieBOT/docs/OrphanReferenceFixer|orphaned references]] in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of [[:Tecnam P2012 Traveller]]'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for ''this'' article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article. |
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<b>Reference named "TCDS":</b><ul> |
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<li>From [[2018 in aviation]]: {{cite web |url= https://www.easa.europa.eu/sites/default/files/dfu/TCDS%20EASA.A.004%20-%20Rev%2047%20-%2026.09.2018.pdf |title= Type certificate data sheet No. EASA.A.004 for Airbus A330 |publisher= European Aviation Safety Agency |date= 26 September 2018 |access-date= 26 September 2018 |archive-url= https://web.archive.org/web/20180926205950/https://www.easa.europa.eu/sites/default/files/dfu/TCDS%20EASA.A.004%20-%20Rev%2047%20-%2026.09.2018.pdf |archive-date= 26 September 2018 |url-status= dead }}</li> |
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<li>From [[Cessna 402]]: {{cite web|url = https://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf/0/A5C47D165AF0956586258518006BA0EB?OpenDocument&Highlight=a7ce|title = TYPE CERTIFICATE DATA SHEET NO. A7CE|access-date = 2008-08-10|last = Federal Aviation Administration|author-link = Federal Aviation Administration|date = March 2007}}</li> |
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I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. [[User:AnomieBOT|AnomieBOT]][[User talk:AnomieBOT|<span style="color:#880">⚡</span>]] 06:45, 22 January 2021 (UTC) |
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== Proposed Merger (P-Volt) == |
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{{Archive top|result=Consensus to not merge|status=closed}} |
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Merger has been proposed to fold the [[Tecnam P-Volt]] into the P2012 article here. Based on Tecnam's own wording, they appear to be considering the P-Volt to be a new aircraft based on the P2012 rather than simply a variant: "P-VOLT is an all-electric, twin-motor, short-range passenger aircraft whose design is based on the Tecnam P2012 Traveller" ([https://www.tecnam.com/tecnam-rolls-royce-showcase-the-future-of-general-aviation-at-the-oshkosh-airshow/]). To me that seems to merit keeping them separate. [[User:Retswerb|Retswerb]] ([[User talk:Retswerb|talk]]) 07:36, 22 October 2021 (UTC) |
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*'''Oppose merge''' - Yes they should be kept separate. The P-Volt easily makes [[WP:GNG]]. - [[User:Ahunt|Ahunt]] ([[User talk:Ahunt|talk]]) 12:27, 22 October 2021 (UTC) |
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*'''Oppose merge''' - An electric version of an aircraft, especially one intended for full production, is going to be different enough from the base model to warrant separate coverage, or all the details of the electric powertrain etc. will overwhelm the other content. As an aside, a lot of our articles that cover several major variants are quite messy because content from merged articles was dumped in whole without much effort made to integrate the content into the existing article structure, usually in the Variants section. In light of that practice, it's much better to keep an article like this one separate. [[User:BilCat|BilCat]] ([[User talk:BilCat|talk]]) 20:44, 22 October 2021 (UTC) |
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*'''Support merge''' - I proposed the merge. For now, this is just a concept, and it looks like just a re-engine with a battery pod, the base aircraft is the same, the TC will certainly be the same. If the section would grow large enough to be split out in a separate article, it would be easy to do.--[[User:Marc Lacoste|Marc Lacoste]] ([[User talk:Marc Lacoste|talk]]) 06:14, 23 October 2021 (UTC) |
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* '''Close discussion:''' per [[WP:WPMERGE]] stale merge/old proposal, merge is opposed. Merge tag off, [[Tecnam P-Volt]] proceeds per NPP. --[[User:Whiteguru|Whiteguru]] ([[User talk:Whiteguru|talk]]) 09:04, 4 December 2021 (UTC) |
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Please can someone review/clean this article? Zadradr (talk) 15:35, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
Orphaned references in Tecnam P2012 Traveller
[edit]I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Tecnam P2012 Traveller's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "TCDS":
- From 2018 in aviation: "Type certificate data sheet No. EASA.A.004 for Airbus A330" (PDF). European Aviation Safety Agency. 26 September 2018. Archived from the original (PDF) on 26 September 2018. Retrieved 26 September 2018.
- From Cessna 402: Federal Aviation Administration (March 2007). "TYPE CERTIFICATE DATA SHEET NO. A7CE". Retrieved 2008-08-10.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 06:45, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
Proposed Merger (P-Volt)
[edit]The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Merger has been proposed to fold the Tecnam P-Volt into the P2012 article here. Based on Tecnam's own wording, they appear to be considering the P-Volt to be a new aircraft based on the P2012 rather than simply a variant: "P-VOLT is an all-electric, twin-motor, short-range passenger aircraft whose design is based on the Tecnam P2012 Traveller" ([1]). To me that seems to merit keeping them separate. Retswerb (talk) 07:36, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose merge - Yes they should be kept separate. The P-Volt easily makes WP:GNG. - Ahunt (talk) 12:27, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
- Oppose merge - An electric version of an aircraft, especially one intended for full production, is going to be different enough from the base model to warrant separate coverage, or all the details of the electric powertrain etc. will overwhelm the other content. As an aside, a lot of our articles that cover several major variants are quite messy because content from merged articles was dumped in whole without much effort made to integrate the content into the existing article structure, usually in the Variants section. In light of that practice, it's much better to keep an article like this one separate. BilCat (talk) 20:44, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
- Support merge - I proposed the merge. For now, this is just a concept, and it looks like just a re-engine with a battery pod, the base aircraft is the same, the TC will certainly be the same. If the section would grow large enough to be split out in a separate article, it would be easy to do.--Marc Lacoste (talk) 06:14, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
- Close discussion: per WP:WPMERGE stale merge/old proposal, merge is opposed. Merge tag off, Tecnam P-Volt proceeds per NPP. --Whiteguru (talk) 09:04, 4 December 2021 (UTC)