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Wiki Education assignment: 'Crazy' Linguistically Rich Asian Languages

This article is currently the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 27 August 2024 and 6 December 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Esotericzz, EmmaShi4517 (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Bellyisthecutest, ChlorisL, Samantha224466, AnnieChen2024, Cionna22.

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+==Wiki Education assignment: 'Crazy' Linguistically Rich Asian Languages==
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+<span class="wikied-assignment" style="font-size:85%;">— Assignment last updated by [[User:Cionna22|Cionna22]] ([[User talk:Cionna22|talk]]) 01:30, 28 October 2024 (UTC)</span>
-@[[User:Remsense|Remsense]], I noticed you're monitoring this page, so I was curious for your thoughts on this. The [[extinct language]] article (which should probably be linked) makes a distinction between a language being extinct (no first-language or second-language speakers) vs. just dead (only second-language speakers). The linguists I know hate the trope of languages being declared extinct when they're actually not, and I wonder if that's happening here. Per the article, Nushu still clearly has at least some people who can write it with some level of fluency. <span style="border:3px outset;border-radius:8pt 0;padding:1px 5px;background:linear-gradient(6rad,#86c,#2b9)">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF;text-decoration:inherit;font:1em Lucida Sans">Sdkb</span>]]</span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 18:10, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
-:There's an important distinction between "language" and "writing system" also. I wouldn't really emphasize the "extinct" versus "dead" distinction with writing systems, since writing is a much more solid, comparative thing than spoken language. For example, people can decipher the spoken sounds the Etruscan script corresponds to much more successfully than they have then pieced together the Etruscan language itself, since we only have tiny fragments of textual evidence. <ins>Contrastingly, Tuhua is very much a living language, so it makes sense people have a firm understanding of how a phonetic writing system for it works.</ins> [[User:Remsense|<span style="border-radius:2px 0 0 2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F;color:#fff">'''Remsense'''</span>]][[User talk:Remsense|<span lang="zh" style="border:1px solid #1E816F;border-radius:0 2px 2px 0;padding:1px 3px;color:#000">诉</span>]] 18:36, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
-::Good point. Where does that leave us in terms of any changes that we might need to make? (I'm trying to get at least the lede in better shape prior to the upcoming Main Page appearance of the ''[[Hidden Letters]]'' DYK.) <span style="border:3px outset;border-radius:8pt 0;padding:1px 5px;background:linear-gradient(6rad,#86c,#2b9)">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF;text-decoration:inherit;font:1em Lucida Sans">Sdkb</span>]]</span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 18:39, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
-:::Oh, I'll take a look at it today ASAP and fix what I can, and let you know if there's anything else. Thanks for the attention to this lovely bit of history. :) [[User:Remsense|<span style="border-radius:2px 0 0 2px;padding:3px;background:#1E816F;color:#fff">'''Remsense'''</span>]][[User talk:Remsense|<span lang="zh" style="border:1px solid #1E816F;border-radius:0 2px 2px 0;padding:1px 3px;color:#000">诉</span>]] 18:42, 26 March 2024 (UTC)