Talk:Washington University in St. Louis

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Proposed merge of George Warren Brown School of Social Work into Washington University in St. Louis

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To not merge, given sufficient independent reliable sources. Klbrain (talk) 09:11, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

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I don't see sufficient notability for an independent article. Most of the content is referenced to a primary source, there is a large unsourced table of research centers that can simply go. There is some interesting information (e.g., first admission of Black students) that can be merged into the main article Polyamorph (talk) 10:55, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

• Oppose I think that there's sufficient material to justify an independent article. ~ HAL333 15:08, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
• Oppose There are barely sufficient sources to pass WP:GNG but they're there - the book dedicated entirely to the history of this organization that begins in the early 1900s is especially convincing. ElKevbo (talk) 21:29, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

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Rebrand

I've changed references from "Washington University" to "WashU" in accordance with today's announcement of a rebrand. More work on name references and logos will need to be done once there is more clarity on what can still be used and what is now considered defunct (particularly concerning university seals). WUSTLWikiWarrior (talk) 16:44, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Also, work will be needed on the pages of individual WashU schools, as well as other pages related to the school. WUSTLWikiWarrior (talk) 16:46, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

I’m going to undo this per WP:COMMONNAME. McYeee (talk) 17:15, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Note https://marcomm.washu.edu/our-name/. Specifically says that "Washington University" should no longer be used in reference to WashU. WUSTLWikiWarrior (talk) 17:28, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

@McYeee, you are right that we should keep that as the name for now throughout the article–however, certain official names have changed, which should be reflected in the article. WUSTLWikiWarrior (talk) 17:35, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

There are three issues here. First, this is an internal guideline for marketing, and Wikipedia goes by what a consensus of reliable sources use, not by internal guidelines. Second, the guideline doesn't even say that "Washington University" is incorrect, just that it should not be used, which in this context means should not be used by university PR people. Finally, do you have any sources that say that certain official names have actually changed? McYeee (talk) 17:36, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Fair points–however, I would expect colloquial name usage to change (including in news articles) to WashU in the coming months as a result of this, at which point we can make the necessary updates.

As for your third point, official school websites have made the switches to their new informal (not formal) names; this includes "WUSM" to "WashU Medicine."

One thing that will have to be changed on Wiki sooner rather than later is the logo. I am not sure about the official seal, but the logo at the bottom of the infobox is now outdated. WUSTLWikiWarrior (talk) 18:00, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

I've asked WikiData to change the Official URL. The page is Semi-protected there. I agree that the logo has to be changed. I don't know about the seal either. McYeee (talk) 18:36, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I was looking into doing that earlier but did not want to change it manually from the official URL as is used in the template. Thank you. WUSTLWikiWarrior (talk) 18:53, 16 August 2024 (UTC)