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Changes 05 October

While doing some research on conservatism in Canada, I just noted that someone changed the parties position from "centre right" to "ultra-right" including a link to the far right page. Neither of the two parties that formed it (the Progressive Conservatives and Wildrose) are described as such. Furthermore they have not formally released a platform. Finally, their leader was once a cabinet minster from Conservative Party of Canada, which is also not described as either far-right. This seems to me to be a political smear by an IP user. I am admittedly partisan in this manner and feel it would not be reasonable to make such a change.Seraphael7 (talk)

Yah, I am impressed with how careful everyone was in trying to soften the ultra-right viewpoint of this party, but, they are clearly right-wing in terms of both fiscal policy as well as social conservatism. Evidence:

* https://pressprogress.ca/7-extremely-right-wing-policy-resolutions-officially-approved-by-jason-kenneys-united-conservative-party/
* https://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/alberta-introduces-labour-legislation-that-reverses-several-worker-protections-put-in-place-by-ndp
* https://globalnews.ca/news/7404348/ucp-private-healthcare-policy-approved/
* https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-registry-land-titles-1.5882678 (sale of Alberta's registries)

If you need more, look at parks, firing nurses, canceling contracts with doctors, etc.

 Xp fun (talk) 02:35, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There was an election yesterday

The government changed, but when I put that in the article some guy erased it. It's a fact, you can't change it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 135.0.145.22 (talk) 06:08, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Direct Democracy"

The UCP is described as a direct democratic party but I see no evidence for this claim, and as such should be removed. 65.92.73.207 (talk) 19:17, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

UCP is NOT a Conservative Party

Based on their ideas the UCP cannot be categorized as a conservative party. Conservative parties do not like too much change, this party wants to move the clock back a century, feel they are better than outsiders, hate minorities. It is what in other parts of the world is called a rightwing extremist party. 2001:569:7602:9E00:80CC:379C:E87E:2A2C (talk) 05:35, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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-== Party colour ==
+== Changes 05 October ==
+:While doing some research on conservatism in Canada, I just noted that someone changed the parties position from "centre right" to "ultra-right" including a link to the far right page. Neither of the two parties that formed it (the [[Progressive Conservative Association of Alberta|Progressive Conservatives]] and [[Wildrose Party|Wildrose]]) are described as such. Furthermore they have not formally released a platform. Finally, their leader was once a cabinet minster from [[Conservative Party of Canada]], which is also not described as either far-right. This seems to me to be a political smear by an IP user. I am admittedly partisan in this manner and feel it would not be reasonable to make such a change.[[User:Seraphael7|Seraphael7]] ([[User talk:Seraphael7|talk]])
-{{u|VivaSlava}}, can you elaborate on where you got #1F75FE for the party colour from? There's no UCP branding out yet, so we have nothing to draw on, and it's not included in [[Template:Canadian party colour]].
+Yah, I am impressed with how careful everyone was in trying to soften the ultra-right viewpoint of this party, but, they are clearly right-wing in terms of both fiscal policy as well as social conservatism.
-Don't get me wrong, it seems like a good choice (distinct enough from PC and CPC blues) but I'm wondering if we should hold off until we have something more formal. [[User:Madg2011|Madg2011]] ([[User talk:Madg2011|talk]]) 03:53, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
+Evidence:
+ * https://pressprogress.ca/7-extremely-right-wing-policy-resolutions-officially-approved-by-jason-kenneys-united-conservative-party/
+ * https://edmontonjournal.com/news/politics/alberta-introduces-labour-legislation-that-reverses-several-worker-protections-put-in-place-by-ndp
+ * https://globalnews.ca/news/7404348/ucp-private-healthcare-policy-approved/
+ * https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-registry-land-titles-1.5882678 (sale of Alberta's registries)
+If you need more, look at parks, firing nurses, canceling contracts with doctors, etc.
+  [[User:Xp fun|Xp fun]] ([[User talk:Xp fun|talk]]) 02:35, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
+== There was an election yesterday ==
-:I went through the [[shades of blue]] looking for a colour in between the dark blue of the PCs in Alberta, and the light blue of the PCs in other Canadian provinces that was also not the same as Conservative party of Canada or the old Conservative party of Alberta. This seemed appropriate, obviously doesn't have to be permanent. In the little branding I've seen, the Unite Alberta campaign (which was endorsed by both PC and Wildrose top brass) used a shade of blue similar to that of the flag of Alberta. [[User:VivaSlava|VivaSlava]] ([[User talk:VivaSlava|talk]]) 04:26, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
+The government changed, but when I put that in the article some guy erased it. It's a fact, you can't change it.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/135.0.145.22|135.0.145.22]] ([[User talk:135.0.145.22#top|talk]]) 06:08, 17 April 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+== "Direct Democracy" ==
-::I asked for #1F75FE to be used in the Canadian Party Colour template until we have an official colour — I think it makes sense to use a placeholder. [[User:Jarphi|Jarphi]] ([[User talk:Jarphi|talk]]) 16:01, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
+The UCP is described as a direct democratic party but I see no evidence for this claim, and as such should be removed.
+[[Special:Contributions/65.92.73.207|65.92.73.207]] ([[User talk:65.92.73.207|talk]]) 19:17, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
+== UCP is NOT a Conservative Party ==
-The UnitedConservitive.ca new website refers to the party as:
-*United Conservative Party
-*[[United Conservitive Party of Alberta]]
-*[[United Conservative Association]] (in footer for copyright)
-So... watch for something official? [[User:Legacypac|Legacypac]] ([[User talk:Legacypac|talk]]) 19:02, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
+Based on their ideas the UCP cannot be categorized as a conservative party. Conservative parties do not like too much change, this party wants to move the clock back a century, feel they are better than outsiders, hate minorities. It is what in other parts of the world is called a rightwing extremist party. [[Special:Contributions/2001:569:7602:9E00:80CC:379C:E87E:2A2C|2001:569:7602:9E00:80CC:379C:E87E:2A2C]] ([[User talk:2001:569:7602:9E00:80CC:379C:E87E:2A2C|talk]]) 05:35, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
-== Political position ==
-As the majority of seats were held by the Wildrose, before the merger, should the political position of the United Conservative Party be displayed as Right Wing or Centre-Right to Right Wing?
-:I would wait until after the policy convention to review this, but I don't see much evidence so far the party can be characterized as "centre-right". [[User:Jarphi|Jarphi]] ([[User talk:Jarphi|talk]]) 15:12, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
-== Requested move 7 February 2018 ==
-{{requested move/dated|United Conservative Party (Alberta)}}
-[[:United Conservative Party]] → {{no redirect|United Conservative Party (Alberta)}} – There is another former party based in Chile better known than the Alberta current party. Suggest turn primary namespace into disambiguation, move this page to requested namespace. [[User:Me-123567-Me|Me-123567-Me]] ([[User talk:Me-123567-Me|talk]]) 17:20, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
-*'''Support''' - to disambiguate from other parties and because the party only exists in Alberta on the provincial level. [[User:Nixon Now|Nixon Now]] ([[User talk:Nixon Now|talk]]) 17:40, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
-*'''Oppose''' the active party is the primary topic. Unless there is a dramatic unknown event the Alberta party will be the nexr government. We don't need a DAB for only to pages, that is against policy. [[User:Legacypac|Legacypac]] ([[User talk:Legacypac|talk]]) 20:25, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
-*'''Support''' - minor-level existing political party in Canada, and the article about the Chilean one was created earlier and have many links to that article rather than the Alberta one. "The active party is the primary topic" is an arbitrary argument, since it doesn't give evidence about that, and both parties could have equal significance. --[[User:Sfs90|Sfs90]] ([[User talk:Sfs90|talk]]) 21:27, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
-*Several reasons the current party is primary topic. The Chile party is actually ''Partido Conservador Unido''' and nearly all sources will refer to it that way. It only existed for three election cycles in the 50s and 60s and failed to gain significant support. The typical reader looking for info on UCP is looking for the current party, which is regularly in the news, not a party that functioned in Spanish with a Spanish name. Perhaps the Chile party should be moved to it's Spanish name instead?  [[User:Legacypac|Legacypac]] ([[User talk:Legacypac|talk]]) 00:56, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
-*'''Oppose''' per [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]]. This article gets about [https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&range=latest-90&pages=United_Conservative_Party_(Chile)|United_Conservative_Party 30 times the pageviews] of the Chilean party. There's no need to send such an overwhelming majority to a dab page. Per [[WP:TWODABS]] a hatnote is sufficient. [[User:Station1|Station1]] ([[User talk:Station1|talk]]) 08:57, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
-*'''Strong Oppose''' - "better known than the Alberta current party" needs a citation. As mentioned by {{user|Station1}}, this article attracts far more viewers. In the last 90 days, this article averages 159 daily pageviews, United Conservative Party (Chile) averages 5. Google Trends interest in "United Conservative Party Chile" is zero. Google Trends interest in "United Conservative Party" from ''Chilean searchers'' is also zero. [[User:Madg2011|Madg2011]] ([[User talk:Madg2011|talk]]) 21:42, 12 February 2018 (UTC)