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==Proposed merge of List Of Gaming Computers==

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== Requested move 19 July 2021 ==
: '''Merge''' The article simply doesn't give enough information to be it's own article. I propose it to be moved here.[[User:Pastorma|Pastorma]] ([[User talk:Pastorma|talk]]) 19:24, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
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::I'm Still Building "List Of Gaming Computers" And I Don't Want It Merged To "Gaming Computer" [[User:N64 Gamer 500|N64 Gamer 500]] ([[User talk:N64 Gamer 500|talk]]) 20:16, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
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::: Deleted: [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of gaming computers]] --[[User:Guy Macon|Guy Macon]] ([[User talk:Guy Macon|talk]]) 07:28, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

The result of the move request was: '''No consensus.''' <small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Non-admin closure|non-admin closure]])</small> [[User:Colin M|Colin M]] ([[User talk:Colin M|talk]]) 17:11, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
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[[:Gaming computer]] → {{no redirect|Gaming PC}} – Proper term that's most commonly used.&nbsp;[[User:CoolingGibbon|CoolingGibbon]] ([[User talk:CoolingGibbon|talk]]) 13:02, 19 July 2021 (UTC) <small>—'''''Relisting.'''''&nbsp;[[User talk:SkyWarrior|<span style="font-family:Verdana;color:forestgreen">'''''SkyWarrior'''''</span>]] 02:46, 27 July 2021 (UTC)</small>
:<small>This is a contested technical request ([[Special:Permalink/1034377578|permalink]]). [[User:Anthony Appleyard|Anthony Appleyard]] ([[User talk:Anthony Appleyard|talk]]) 16:02, 19 July 2021 (UTC)</small>
*{{ping|CoolingGibbon|MrOllie}} queried move request [[User:Anthony Appleyard|Anthony Appleyard]] ([[User talk:Anthony Appleyard|talk]]) 16:02, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
*This is a 15 year old article and it is not obvious that it should be moved to an abbeviated form of the current title. - [[User:|MrOllie]] ([[User talk:MrOllie|talk]]) 13:30, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
* I don't see what article longevity has anything to do with this. No one in PC gaming circles uses the term "gaming computer". A simple Google search should prove that. --[[User:CoolingGibbon|CoolingGibbon]] ([[User talk:CoolingGibbon|talk]]) 13:44, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
*{{ping|CoolingGibbon|MrOllie}} [[User:Anthony Appleyard|Anthony Appleyard]] ([[User talk:Anthony Appleyard|talk]]) 16:04, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
* '''Oppose move''': per lines pf MrOllie. [[User:Djm-leighpark|Djm-leighpark]] ([[User talk:Djm-leighpark|talk]]) 03:14, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

:'''Support''' Per consistency with [[PC game]], which is not titled "computer game", and shouldn't be because it would sound stilted. <sub><small>[[User:Zxcvbnm|ZXCVBNM]] ([[User Talk:Zxcvbnm|TALK]])</small></sub> 03:47, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' "PC" may be a well known initialism in tech circles but it can readily be confused with other terms. As such, it would be inappropriate to move it. "Gaming computer" is sufficient. (And this would also apply to "PC Game" which should really be at "personal computer game". --[[User:Masem|M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span>]] ([[User Talk:Masem|t]]) 04:13, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
*:"PC" is a well-known acronym within the gaming sphere. While I definitely do not oppose PC itself being a disambiguation, in context there's no need to clarify. <sub><small>[[User:Zxcvbnm|ZXCVBNM]] ([[User Talk:Zxcvbnm|TALK]])</small></sub> 06:44, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
*::That said, I believe that if this article is not moved, [[PC game]] must be moved to [[computer game]] for consistency purposes. <sub><small>[[User:Zxcvbnm|ZXCVBNM]] ([[User Talk:Zxcvbnm|TALK]])</small></sub> 06:47, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
*:::There would be a case for that, yes. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] ([[User talk:Andrewa|talk]]) 08:07, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
*::That's the point. "PC" is well known/established in gaming and computing and likely other related tech areas, but its not a general term and given that there's other terms of broader meaning ("political correctness" for example), we should avoid using the initialism for the general encyclopedia. Hence the application to move "PC game" to "computer game" or "personal computer game". --[[User:Masem|M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span>]] ([[User Talk:Masem|t]]) 15:04, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''. We are a general encyclopedia. The article name should reflect what the general public call these devices, not necessarily what the gaming fraternity call them. ''[[PC]]'' is seriously ambiguous. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] ([[User talk:Andrewa|talk]]) 08:07, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
*'''Weak support''': If that's what these things are mostly called, then that's what we should call them. I also haven't noticed anyone pointing out any specific ambiguity in "Gaming PC", while a "gaming computer" could be a computer used in the gambling industry. The suggested alternative interpretation, "[[gaming political correctness]]", just doesn't make sense and is a red link. —⁠ ⁠[[User:BarrelProof|BarrelProof]] ([[User talk:BarrelProof|talk]]) 15:08, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
* '''Oppose'''. I don't think moving an article to a name which a small percentage of the population is advantageous to everyone else who use the alternative. [[User:Sean Stephens|Sean Stephens]] ([[User talk:Sean Stephens|talk]]) 00:37, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
*'''Support''': the current title is ambiguous. It may be confused with gambling computers, [[arcade cabinet]]s, or [[cloud gaming]] servers, neither of which fall under the definition of a "personal computer". feminist [[User talk:Feminist|(+)]] 08:06, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
** The question to ask is not whether "gaming computer" could be confused with these, but if legitimately any of those are actually called, with some frequency, "gaming computers". I can't speak to the gambling side, but I've never seen anywhere close to sourcing to suggest that arcade cabinets or cloud gaming servers are called "gaming computers" with any type of frequency to make this a potential disambiguation issue. --[[User:Masem|M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span>]] ([[User Talk:Masem|t]]) 14:56, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
*'''Split''': I also think, the "gaming computer" and "gaming personal computer" is slightly different classes. Some early computer games was maintained on a PDP-8 minicomputers (that's not a personal machines) or (rarely) on a IBM midrange computers; the arcade machines also a good example of a another gaming platform. [[User:ThisIsNotABetter|ThisIsNotABetter]] ([[User talk:ThisIsNotABetter|talk]]) 13:39, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
** As I mention to Feminist's reply, unless it is clear that mainframe computers that run games are called "gaming computers" in RSes, this is not a real concern. I do think the early history stuff in this article may be unnecessary as the key is to distinguish gaming computers from general performance computers, and that really doesn't require anything about the mainframe period of games. --[[User:Masem|M<span style="font-variant: small-caps">asem</span>]] ([[User Talk:Masem|t]]) 14:59, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
* '''Oppose'''. I don’t know of any evidence of the term “Gaming PC” being more popular, “Gaming Computer” is actually the one that seems more common.[[User:DogsRNice|DogsRNice]] ([[User talk:DogsRNice|talk]]) 16:38, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
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Requested move 19 July 2021

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus. (non-admin closure) Colin M (talk) 17:11, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]



Gaming computerGaming PC – Proper term that's most commonly used. CoolingGibbon (talk) 13:02, 19 July 2021 (UTC) Relisting. SkyWarrior 02:46, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:02, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support Per consistency with PC game, which is not titled "computer game", and shouldn't be because it would sound stilted. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 03:47, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose "PC" may be a well known initialism in tech circles but it can readily be confused with other terms. As such, it would be inappropriate to move it. "Gaming computer" is sufficient. (And this would also apply to "PC Game" which should really be at "personal computer game". --Masem (t) 04:13, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    "PC" is a well-known acronym within the gaming sphere. While I definitely do not oppose PC itself being a disambiguation, in context there's no need to clarify. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 06:44, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    That said, I believe that if this article is not moved, PC game must be moved to computer game for consistency purposes. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 06:47, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    There would be a case for that, yes. Andrewa (talk) 08:07, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    That's the point. "PC" is well known/established in gaming and computing and likely other related tech areas, but its not a general term and given that there's other terms of broader meaning ("political correctness" for example), we should avoid using the initialism for the general encyclopedia. Hence the application to move "PC game" to "computer game" or "personal computer game". --Masem (t) 15:04, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. We are a general encyclopedia. The article name should reflect what the general public call these devices, not necessarily what the gaming fraternity call them. PC is seriously ambiguous. Andrewa (talk) 08:07, 27 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support: If that's what these things are mostly called, then that's what we should call them. I also haven't noticed anyone pointing out any specific ambiguity in "Gaming PC", while a "gaming computer" could be a computer used in the gambling industry. The suggested alternative interpretation, "gaming political correctness", just doesn't make sense and is a red link. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 15:08, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. I don't think moving an article to a name which a small percentage of the population is advantageous to everyone else who use the alternative. Sean Stephens (talk) 00:37, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: the current title is ambiguous. It may be confused with gambling computers, arcade cabinets, or cloud gaming servers, neither of which fall under the definition of a "personal computer". feminist (+) 08:06, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • The question to ask is not whether "gaming computer" could be confused with these, but if legitimately any of those are actually called, with some frequency, "gaming computers". I can't speak to the gambling side, but I've never seen anywhere close to sourcing to suggest that arcade cabinets or cloud gaming servers are called "gaming computers" with any type of frequency to make this a potential disambiguation issue. --Masem (t) 14:56, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Split: I also think, the "gaming computer" and "gaming personal computer" is slightly different classes. Some early computer games was maintained on a PDP-8 minicomputers (that's not a personal machines) or (rarely) on a IBM midrange computers; the arcade machines also a good example of a another gaming platform. ThisIsNotABetter (talk) 13:39, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    • As I mention to Feminist's reply, unless it is clear that mainframe computers that run games are called "gaming computers" in RSes, this is not a real concern. I do think the early history stuff in this article may be unnecessary as the key is to distinguish gaming computers from general performance computers, and that really doesn't require anything about the mainframe period of games. --Masem (t) 14:59, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. I don’t know of any evidence of the term “Gaming PC” being more popular, “Gaming Computer” is actually the one that seems more common.DogsRNice (talk) 16:38, 6 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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