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#{{cite news | first=Jessica | last=Hesslam | title=Bay State lawyer takes on FOX yakker | date=2009-10-02 | publisher=[[Boston Herald]] | url =http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1201618&srvc=home&position=emailed | accessdate = 2009-10-03 }}
#{{cite news| first=Wendy | last=Davis |url=http://www.mediapost.com/publications/?fa=Articles.showArticle&art_aid=114601|title=Glenn Beck Urges Parody Site Be Shut Down| publisher=MediaPost|date=2009-09-30|accessdate = 2009-10-04}}
#{{cite news| first=Nate | last=Anderson |url=http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2009/09/can-a-mere-domain-name-be-defamation-glenn-beck-says-yes.ars|title=Can a mere domain name be defamation? Glenn Beck says yes| publisher=[[Ars Technica]]|date=2009-09-09|accessdate = 2009-10-04}}
#{{cite news| first=Robert | last=Quigley |url=http://www.mediaite.com/online/anti-beck-backlash-hits-nauseating-extreme-with-murder-and-rape-meme/ |title=Anti-Beck Backlash Hits Nauseating Extreme with “Murder and Rape” Meme (UPDATED THRICE)| publisher=[[Mediaite]]|date=2009-09-03|accessdate = 2009-10-04}}
#{{cite news| author=Citizen Media Law Project staff |url=http://www.citmedialaw.org/threats/beck-v-eiland-hall|title=Beck v. Eiland-Hall|author=Citizen Media Law Project staff| publisher=[[Citizen Media Law Project]]|date=2009|accessdate=2009-10-29}}
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#{{cite news| first=Eriq | last=Gardner ||url=http://www.adweek.com/aw/content_display/news/agency/e3i49ed8b00bbe771aa3d0035e57251257f|title=Glenn Beck Satire Site Fights Back| publisher=[[Adweek]]|date=2009-09-29|accessdate = 2009-10-04}}
#{{cite news| first=Andy | last=Carvin |url=http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2009/10/when_internet_memes_go_to_cour.html|title=Glenn Beck Internet Meme Gets Ugly| publisher=[[National Public Radio]]|date=2009-10-02 |accessdate = 2009-10-04}}
#{{cite news| first=Andrew | last=Allemann |url=http://domainnamewire.com/2009/10/01/hot-off-press-domain-owner-responds-to-glenn-beck/|title=Hot off Press: Domain Owner Responds to Glenn Beck |publisher=Domain Name Wire|date=2009-10-01|accessdate = 2009-10-04}}
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#{{cite news| first=Jeffrey | last=Weiss |url=http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/09/17/the-glenn-beck-as-murderer-meme-vaccine-or-infection#|title=The 'Glenn Beck as Murderer' Meme: Vaccine or Infection?|author=Jeffrey Weiss| publisher=[[Politics Daily]]|date=2009-09-17|accessdate = 2009-10-04}}
#{{cite news| first=Michael | last=Masnick |url=http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20090908/0321546127.shtml|title=Glenn Beck Didn't Rape And Murder Anyone... But He Doesn't Want Websites Discussing It| publisher=[[Techdirt]]|date=2009-09-08|accessdate = 2009-10-04}}
#{{cite news|url=http://foxnewsboycott.com/glenn-beck/glenn-beck-introduced-to-the-streisand-effect/|title=Glenn Beck Introduced to the Streisand Effect| publisher=FoxNewsBoycott.com|date=2009-09-10|accessdate = 2009-10-04}}
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#{{cite news|| first=Billy | last=Manes |url=http://www.orlandoweekly.com/features/story.asp?id=13504|title=Happytown |publisher=Orlando Weekly |date=2009-10-07|accessdate = 2009-10-12}}
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|dykentry=... that in his response brief in '''''[[Beck v. Eiland-Hall]]''''', attorney '''[[Marc Randazza]]''' cited the [[Supreme Court of the United States|U.S. Supreme Court]] case ''[[Hustler Magazine v. Falwell]]''?
I'm diametrically opposed to anything Beck does, but this article seems to go completely out of its way to bash him. The large number of quotes discussing the lack of merit in the case seems like a huge pile-on, and its only purpose seems to be to make it impossible for anyone to think that Beck is anything but an idiot. While ''schadenfreude'' is all fun and good, that's counter to our purpose here. Can we make the point more succinctly?
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Also, while I'm at it, the article is awfully repetitive and in serious need of a copy editor. <span style="font-family:Verdana; ">'''[[User:Howcheng|<span style="color:#33C;">howcheng</span>]]''' <small>{[[User talk:Howcheng|chat]]}</small></span> 17:45, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
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:Perhaps you could suggest some [[Wikipedia:Verifiability#Sources|independent]] [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable]] [[Wikipedia:No original research#Primary, secondary and tertiary sources|secondary sources]] that present an alternate perspective? '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 21:05, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
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::It might be the way the information is presented. The Commentary section reads like a series of flattering movie reviews instead of commentary on an internet meme or a legal dispute. I personally don't feel that every single piece needs to be mentioned since it does have weight concerns due to the shear amount of content. Is all of the information relevant and if it is can it be summarized in a more concise manner?[[User:Cptnono|Cptnono]] ([[User talk:Cptnono|talk]]) 21:12, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
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:::It is a bit too soon to start nitpicking. Best to sit back and compile more information, research, and secondary sources, and analyze in retrospect after the entire case has concluded. But the ''Commentary'' is what it is so far, commentary on the various aspects of the legal case. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 21:17, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
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::::Update: I did a bit of copyediting, trimmed some quotes, and removed a significant amount of material [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Beck_v._Eiland-Hall&action=historysubmit&diff=320884296&oldid=320847669]. :) Cheers, '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 21:56, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
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Didn't know where else to put this, but new developments - Beck filed, Arbitrator ordered, and we filed a surreply. Info here: http://gb1990.com/legal.php - again, putting this in talk here because I'm not touching the article itself. [[User:Isaac.Eiland-Hall|Isaac.Eiland-Hall]] ([[User talk:Isaac.Eiland-Hall|talk]]) 18:05, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
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:Yes, I'll update that soon. ;) '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 00:16, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
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::Update: Added a bit, I will add more later. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 00:40, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
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Regarding [http://www.undispatch.com/node/9054], not sure that would add anything of substance to the article. On an interesting sidenote as far as sources go, [http://www.undispatch.com/node/9054 this post] references [http://twitter.com/evgenymorozov/status/5100977935 this tweet] at the bottom of the post, which in turn references [http://www.jacksonnjonline.com/2009/10/23/glenn-beck-continues-case-against-parody-website/ this post], which appears to have plagiarized its info from [http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/US_free_speech_lawyer_Marc_Randazza_discusses_Glenn_Beck_parody this ''Wikinews'' article.] '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 21:21, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

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I don't think "start class" is befitting of this article anymore; it seems well sourced and thorough (though a little repetitious), but I didn't do any source [[WP:V|verification]]. I am going to nominate for a re-assessment. //[[USER:Blaxthos|Blaxthos]] <small>( [[User Talk:Blaxthos|t]] / [[Special:Contributions/Blaxthos|c]] )</small> 05:22, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
:Thanks for the kind words about the article's quality. :) I changed the rating to C-class. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 06:15, 23 October 2009 (UTC)


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== When will this case be decided? ==


Hello fellow Wikipedians,
As far as I can tell from the article, this case has not yet concluded. Assuming that's correct, when will it be decided? This makes a good story, but it feels a bit 'unfinished' at the moment. :) [[User:Robofish|Robofish]] ([[User talk:Robofish|talk]]) 00:38, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:I think that unless Beck's attorneys file any subsequent documents, the next event will be the ruling by the WIPO court, and then probably there will be some secondary source commentary on that development. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 01:26, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
::And it is likely such documents would appear at ''[http://www.citmedialaw.org/threats/beck-v-eiland-hall Citizen Media Law Project]''. '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 02:00, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
:::I don't know that these things have any set timelines, it could take awhile to get a result.--[[User:Milowent|Milowent]] ([[User talk:Milowent|talk]]) 02:07, 30 October 2009 (UTC)


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It was too long for me to figure it out and I gave up. Did notice the web site is down, but haven't the faintest idea why. Please work on this someone :-) [[User:Carolmooredc|CarolMooreDC]] ([[User talk:Carolmooredc|talk]]) 22:25, 11 November 2009 (UTC)


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:The lead is too long - see [[WP:LEAD]]. [[User:Morphh|<span style="color:green">Morphh</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:Morphh|<span style="color:chocolate">(talk)</span>]]</sup> <small><i>1:19, 12 November 2009 (UTC)</i></small>
::Suggestions on what should go?[[User:Cptnono|Cptnono]] ([[User talk:Cptnono|talk]]) 01:20, 12 November 2009 (UTC)


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:::Summarize the article - go one section at a time. Limit the lead to about three paragraphs (and not the size of the jumbo paragraphs currently there). [[User:Morphh|<span style="color:green">Morphh</span>]] <sup>[[user talk:Morphh|<span style="color:chocolate">(talk)</span>]]</sup> <small><i>1:25, 12 November 2009 (UTC)</i></small>
::::So you would rather complain than do it yourself :P (screwing with you). It looks like Cirt was going for making the lead worthy of standing on its own and summarizing each aspect of the article as is seen in all good articles. Some trimming is needed, though. I don't think I would cut anything form the first paragraph and would focus on the length of the third and fourth. Thoughts? [[User:Cptnono|Cptnono]] ([[User talk:Cptnono|talk]]) 03:05, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::Per [[WP:LEAD]], I have made the lede be able to function as a stand-alone summary of the article's contents. I am open to more specific suggestions, however. :) '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 06:52, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
::::::'''Update:''' I trimmed the lede a bit, [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Beck_v._Eiland-Hall&diff=325395899&oldid=325315345]. :) Cheers, '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 07:05, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Trimmed a bit more, [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Beck_v._Eiland-Hall&action=historysubmit&diff=325397197&oldid=325395899]. :) '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 07:21, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
{{outdent}}Per the original comment by {{user|Carolmooredc}} expressing confusion about the website's status, I made this a bit clearer in the lede. Cheers, '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 07:29, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

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October 4, 2009Articles for deletionNo consensus
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Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on October 19, 2009.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that in his response brief in Beck v. Eiland-Hall, attorney Marc Randazza cited the U.S. Supreme Court case Hustler Magazine v. Falwell?
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