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==Untitled== |
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There are several links for albums/songs, which are nonexistent or misleading: e.g. [[Quench]] is redirected to another band, so clicking here on the album title will lead to something completely different. Then again, the Wikipedia-help says that disambiuation pages should not be included for mere song/album titles, and doing a disambiguaition page for [[Quench]] would just contain a redirect to a band with another name and one-liner about the beautiful south album "quench". What to do? Remove the links here instead? |
There are several links for albums/songs, which are nonexistent or misleading: e.g. [[Quench]] is redirected to another band, so clicking here on the album title will lead to something completely different. Then again, the Wikipedia-help says that disambiuation pages should not be included for mere song/album titles, and doing a disambiguaition page for [[Quench]] would just contain a redirect to a band with another name and one-liner about the beautiful south album "quench". What to do? Remove the links here instead? |
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- Not to worry, i've sorted that out, i've added some biographys as well. |
- Not to worry, i've sorted that out, i've added some biographys as well. |
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"Alternative rock"? There was never very much "alternative" about the Beautiful South, they were always very mainstream really, quite lightweight pop, if anything. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/79.72.26.234|79.72.26.234]] ([[User talk:79.72.26.234|talk]]) 11:07, 18 October 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Singles == |
== Singles == |
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[[User:Grinned2death|Grinned2death]] 17:59, 3 June 2006 (UTC) |
[[User:Grinned2death|Grinned2death]] 17:59, 3 June 2006 (UTC) |
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There's no singles listing now. Why? ([[User:Coachtripfan|Coachtripfan]] ([[User talk:Coachtripfan|talk]]) 18:30, 9 May 2014 (UTC)) |
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== POV == |
== POV == |
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:agreed. The last biography paragraph could easily be used as an example of POV writing. "acclaimed lyricist", "legendary Bill Pryce" and so on. Also a little too much information on a single album with not too much impact as of now. [[User:Ulkomaalainen|Ulkomaalainen]] 00:11, 29 October 2006 (UTC) |
:agreed. The last biography paragraph could easily be used as an example of POV writing. "acclaimed lyricist", "legendary Bill Pryce" and so on. Also a little too much information on a single album with not too much impact as of now. [[User:Ulkomaalainen|Ulkomaalainen]] 00:11, 29 October 2006 (UTC) |
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:This is the first folk punk [[Special:Contributions/2601:140:9500:80F0:114A:4365:320D:89D7|2601:140:9500:80F0:114A:4365:320D:89D7]] ([[User talk:2601:140:9500:80F0:114A:4365:320D:89D7|talk]]) 02:09, 17 October 2023 (UTC) |
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::You would need to cite a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] for that. [[User:Binksternet|Binksternet]] ([[User talk:Binksternet|talk]]) 02:41, 17 October 2023 (UTC) |
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== Pretenders to the Throne == |
== Pretenders to the Throne == |
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I've added her name to the infobox, as the sleeve notes for their last three albums list her as a full member of the band. The text of the article could do with changing to reflect this as well. [[User:PC78|PC78]] 18:10, 15 December 2006 (UTC) |
I've added her name to the infobox, as the sleeve notes for their last three albums list her as a full member of the band. The text of the article could do with changing to reflect this as well. [[User:PC78|PC78]] 18:10, 15 December 2006 (UTC) |
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== 1 in 7 households in the UK own Carry on... Album == |
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Removed this as it had no source - there are 24.7 million households in the UK so one in 7 would mean 3.53 million households would need a copy. Assuming no duplicates at least 3.53 million copies would need to have been sold in the UK. The all time best selling album in the UK list [http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0900entertainment/0050artsnews/tm_headline=queen-tops-100-best-selling-albums-list&method=full&objectid=18102652&siteid=50082-name_page.html] has Carry On... at No. 75 whilst Kylie - The Album is at 56. Kylie has sold just 2.1 million copies and Carry On... even less. It's not possible! [[User:Alexj2002|Alexj2002]] 16:08, 9 January 2007 (UTC) |
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:Maybe they all got it abroad! Oh well, nevermind ;-) [[User:AilaG|AilaG]] 17:07, 5 February 2007 (UTC) |
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I thought it was that '1 in 7 households own '''a Beautiful South Album''' and not just Carry on. |
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== Jacqui Abbott == |
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Why should Jacqui Abbott be merged into this article? If the band split, she'll probably have a solo career.<br /> |
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Plus, there are separate terms for smaller things, such as a term for each episode on some show.<br /> |
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I think she should have her own term, and someone should expand it.<br /> |
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[[User:AilaG|ailaG]] 17:06, 5 February 2007 (UTC) |
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:Well, at the moment there is no content to warrant a separate article. If content specific to her becomes available then a solo article can easily be recreated. [[User:The JPS|<span style="color:purple;">The <b>JP</b>S</span>]][[User talk:The JPS|'''<sup style="color:purple;"><b>talk</b> to me</sup>''']] 00:42, 12 February 2007 (UTC) |
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::All the other band members have their own articles, so there's no reason why Jacqui Abbot should be the exception. There may not be much there at the moment, but that doesn't mean that it can't be sufficiently expanded. [[User:PC78|PC78]] 08:26, 16 February 2007 (UTC) |
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==Reformation== |
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According to the Socialist Worker, the Beautiful South are performing at the 'Love Music, Hate Racism' gig in Stoke on Trent, have they reformed? [[User:Mtaylor848|Mtaylor848]] ([[User talk:Mtaylor848|talk]]) 21:39, 14 May 2009 (UTC) |
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== Alternative Rock!!! == |
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Could someone please please change the genre in this article and in every single album article!! The Beautiful South have made a lot for sure, but definetely no Alternative Rock!! [[Special:Contributions/92.231.48.178|92.231.48.178]] ([[User talk:92.231.48.178|talk]]) 08:47, 24 October 2010 (UTC) |
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*That is a US-bias I think that might say that, not knowing they were mainstream pop in the UK.--'''[[User:Milowent|Milowent]]''' • <small><sup style="position:relative">[[User talk:Milowent|talk]]<span style="position:relative;bottom:-2.0ex;left:-3.2ex;*left:-5.5ex;">[[Wikipedia:Unreferenced BLP Rescue|blp-r]]</span></sup></small> 12:31, 24 October 2010 (UTC) |
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Exactly: only on US radio would this band be classed as 'alternative'. In their homeland there were a very mainstream and big selling pop band. [[User:Vauxhall1964|Vauxhall1964]] ([[User talk:Vauxhall1964|talk]]) 12:20, 13 July 2013 (UTC) |
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== Huddersfield concert == |
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The Huddersfield concert mentioned in the article in 1997 was not supported by Oasis. Main supporting bands were from The Lightning Seeds and Cast [[User:Colin.james1969|Colin.james1969]] ([[User talk:Colin.james1969|talk]]) 20:12, 10 March 2012 (UTC) |
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== The Slide == |
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Info needs to be certified. The article says it was written in 2007. Is this true? |
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http://www.beautifulsouthfans.co.uk/the-slide.html - This website suggests otherwise. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.147.8.65|86.147.8.65]] ([[User talk:86.147.8.65|talk]]) 21:57, 6 June 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Lead vocals. == |
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Guys, please, post as informations of who sang lead vocal music by music, album by album. |
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Because band has 3 lead vocalists on which album, people whos curiosity by information, and Paul and Dave has voices similars. — <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/201.49.104.203|201.49.104.203]] ([[User talk:201.49.104.203|talk]]) 09:41, 29 September 2013 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Untitled
[edit]There are several links for albums/songs, which are nonexistent or misleading: e.g. Quench is redirected to another band, so clicking here on the album title will lead to something completely different. Then again, the Wikipedia-help says that disambiuation pages should not be included for mere song/album titles, and doing a disambiguaition page for Quench would just contain a redirect to a band with another name and one-liner about the beautiful south album "quench". What to do? Remove the links here instead?
- Not to worry, i've sorted that out, i've added some biographys as well.
"Alternative rock"? There was never very much "alternative" about the Beautiful South, they were always very mainstream really, quite lightweight pop, if anything. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.72.26.234 (talk) 11:07, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Singles
[edit]I've cleaned up the singles entry so that its in a table format. I know it verges on the length side, but hopefully its ok.
Grinned2death 17:59, 3 June 2006 (UTC) There's no singles listing now. Why? (Coachtripfan (talk) 18:30, 9 May 2014 (UTC))
POV
[edit]Got enough non-NPOV in there? Crikey :) Dave420 12:35, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
- agreed. The last biography paragraph could easily be used as an example of POV writing. "acclaimed lyricist", "legendary Bill Pryce" and so on. Also a little too much information on a single album with not too much impact as of now. Ulkomaalainen 00:11, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
- This is the first folk punk 2601:140:9500:80F0:114A:4365:320D:89D7 (talk) 02:09, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- You would need to cite a reliable source for that. Binksternet (talk) 02:41, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
Pretenders to the Throne
[edit]I've reinstated the fact that this single wasn't featured on an album until Solid Bronze in 2000. I think this is important as it highlights this irregularity within the release of this particular single, as opposed to it looking like an error of dates. Grinned2death 22:08, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Alison Wheeler
[edit]I've added her name to the infobox, as the sleeve notes for their last three albums list her as a full member of the band. The text of the article could do with changing to reflect this as well. PC78 18:10, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
1 in 7 households in the UK own Carry on... Album
[edit]Removed this as it had no source - there are 24.7 million households in the UK so one in 7 would mean 3.53 million households would need a copy. Assuming no duplicates at least 3.53 million copies would need to have been sold in the UK. The all time best selling album in the UK list [1] has Carry On... at No. 75 whilst Kylie - The Album is at 56. Kylie has sold just 2.1 million copies and Carry On... even less. It's not possible! Alexj2002 16:08, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
- Maybe they all got it abroad! Oh well, nevermind ;-) AilaG 17:07, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
I thought it was that '1 in 7 households own a Beautiful South Album and not just Carry on.
Jacqui Abbott
[edit]Why should Jacqui Abbott be merged into this article? If the band split, she'll probably have a solo career.
Plus, there are separate terms for smaller things, such as a term for each episode on some show.
I think she should have her own term, and someone should expand it.
ailaG 17:06, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
- Well, at the moment there is no content to warrant a separate article. If content specific to her becomes available then a solo article can easily be recreated. The JPStalk to me 00:42, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
- All the other band members have their own articles, so there's no reason why Jacqui Abbot should be the exception. There may not be much there at the moment, but that doesn't mean that it can't be sufficiently expanded. PC78 08:26, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Reformation
[edit]According to the Socialist Worker, the Beautiful South are performing at the 'Love Music, Hate Racism' gig in Stoke on Trent, have they reformed? Mtaylor848 (talk) 21:39, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Alternative Rock!!!
[edit]Could someone please please change the genre in this article and in every single album article!! The Beautiful South have made a lot for sure, but definetely no Alternative Rock!! 92.231.48.178 (talk) 08:47, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
- That is a US-bias I think that might say that, not knowing they were mainstream pop in the UK.--Milowent • talkblp-r 12:31, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Exactly: only on US radio would this band be classed as 'alternative'. In their homeland there were a very mainstream and big selling pop band. Vauxhall1964 (talk) 12:20, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Huddersfield concert
[edit]The Huddersfield concert mentioned in the article in 1997 was not supported by Oasis. Main supporting bands were from The Lightning Seeds and Cast Colin.james1969 (talk) 20:12, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
The Slide
[edit]Info needs to be certified. The article says it was written in 2007. Is this true? http://www.beautifulsouthfans.co.uk/the-slide.html - This website suggests otherwise. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.147.8.65 (talk) 21:57, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
Lead vocals.
[edit]Guys, please, post as informations of who sang lead vocal music by music, album by album.
Because band has 3 lead vocalists on which album, people whos curiosity by information, and Paul and Dave has voices similars. — — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.49.104.203 (talk) 09:41, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
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