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== Theory vs. Facts ==
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Full disclosure: I am the son of Carl de Boor, Helen Bee's current husband. That said, I wonder at the use of the term "pop psychologist" to describe her. Leaving aside the fact that in common parlance "pop psychology" has become a highly pejorative term (as in 'don't lay that pop psychology on me'), Helen is hardly the kind of mass market self-help guru one associates with this term. I assume the person who wrote this did so because, among other things, Helen has been responsible for many of the seminal/introductory texts on human development used in colleges and universities, but this is hardly pop psychology work--these kinds of texts go through far more academic vetting than the typical journal article does. Perhaps another, less pejorative term that could still link to the same article would be better, e.g. 'psychology teacher and popularizer'? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.30.201.95|68.30.201.95]] ([[User talk:68.30.201.95|talk]]) 21:01, 8 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Full disclosure: I am the son of Carl de Boor, Helen Bee's current husband. That said, I wonder at the use of the term "pop psychologist" to describe her. Leaving aside the fact that in common parlance "pop psychology" has become a highly pejorative term (as in 'don't lay that pop psychology on me'), Helen is hardly the kind of mass market self-help guru one associates with this term. I assume the person who wrote this did so because, among other things, Helen has been responsible for many of the seminal/introductory texts on human development used in colleges and universities, but this is hardly pop psychology work--these kinds of texts go through far more academic vetting than the typical journal article does. Perhaps another, less pejorative term that could still link to the same article would be better, e.g. 'psychology teacher and popularizer'? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.30.201.95|68.30.201.95]] ([[User talk:68.30.201.95|talk]]) 21:01, 8 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Rem'd ref ==
I found this ref:
: <nowiki><</nowiki>ref name=psy>[http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=ZQ2gkBC7sRsC&pg=PA196&dq=%22helen+bee%22+psychology&ei=5fXfR8T-MIroiQHr19XsCg&sig=efl6R6BGWR6sXqrvqGfviPiYdpQ#PPA197,M1 Psychology and Social Care] By David J. Messer, Fiona Jones, p196-7, 1999, Jessica Kingsley, {{ISBN|1853027626}}</ref>
and removed it bcz it purports to support only an approximate YoB, which (in light of the competing date 1939) is probably the kind of often valuable but occasionally worthless guess that i occasionally make, by subtracting typical age for receiving a specific degree from the known date of receipt.<br />--[[User:Jerzy|Jerzy]]•[[User talk:Jerzy|t]] 08:52, 9 March 2011 (UTC)<br />

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Theory vs. Facts

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The article states Ms. Bee's theories as fact, e.g. from the did you know section "that Helen Bee identified that people make both an inner and outer journey through adulthood?" That may or may not be true, but either way, it is a description of her interpretation of her observations, notably about herself, not some large diverse, population. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.63.86.153 (talk) 14:09, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pop Psychologist?

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Full disclosure: I am the son of Carl de Boor, Helen Bee's current husband. That said, I wonder at the use of the term "pop psychologist" to describe her. Leaving aside the fact that in common parlance "pop psychology" has become a highly pejorative term (as in 'don't lay that pop psychology on me'), Helen is hardly the kind of mass market self-help guru one associates with this term. I assume the person who wrote this did so because, among other things, Helen has been responsible for many of the seminal/introductory texts on human development used in colleges and universities, but this is hardly pop psychology work--these kinds of texts go through far more academic vetting than the typical journal article does. Perhaps another, less pejorative term that could still link to the same article would be better, e.g. 'psychology teacher and popularizer'? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.30.201.95 (talk) 21:01, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rem'd ref

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I found this ref:

<ref name=psy>Psychology and Social Care By David J. Messer, Fiona Jones, p196-7, 1999, Jessica Kingsley, ISBN 1853027626</ref>

and removed it bcz it purports to support only an approximate YoB, which (in light of the competing date 1939) is probably the kind of often valuable but occasionally worthless guess that i occasionally make, by subtracting typical age for receiving a specific degree from the known date of receipt.
--Jerzyt 08:52, 9 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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