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== Primary and secondary sources ==

While the court transcripts are interesting, we can only use them to source the article to the degree to which they have been reported in secondary sources like newspapers and books. See [[WP:PRIMARY]]. --[[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 17:45, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
:If an edit summary says 'per talk' one would assume the specific edit has been discussed. Making a very general point about primary sources on talk does not count as discussion in my book. Anyway, I don't think your characterisation of the source as primary in the context is correct. [http://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/opinions/2008HCJAC28.html IN APPEAL BY LUKE MUIR MITCHELL against HER MAJESTY'S ADVOCATE, SUMMARY] is not a court transcript of the trial or appeal. It is given as a source for established facts about the background to the case. Only in respect of the reasoning of the panel of judges for their decision about the appeal could it be called a primary source.

:The text about his mother's intervention getting Mitchell from a non-denominational primary school into a Catholic secondary school has been removed. Mitchell's defenders say it is relevant to accusations Mitchell openly espoused Satanism that he was a non-Catholic attending a Catholic secondary school. I think it should be mentioned.[[User:Overagainst|Overagainst]] ([[User talk:Overagainst|talk]]) 19:37, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

::We should summarise the best secondary sources, and not be influenced by "Mitchell's defenders" or report material that is only available from primary sources. --[[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 21:01, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
:::The above link to an official summary that is provided to aid in understanding the appeal panel's decision. The source gives an overview of the background aspects of the case by appeal judges, who are drawing on investigative reports by others. The were not participants in the events. In my opinion that makes it a secondary source. It does not contain any witness transcript or record of what was said in the trial. Please explain why you think the source is a primary source, and less reliable that press reports of court testimony. I am sorry, but the above linked document is a secondary source for what it was referenced for. In my opinion it's quite in order to use the judges' summary as a reference for the background to the case. That includes problematic behaviour in his non-denominational primary school which resulted in Mitchell being at a Catholic secondary school.[[User:Overagainst|Overagainst]] ([[User talk:Overagainst|talk]]) 21:40, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

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== Dog tracking ==

Where is there any proof that Mitchell's pet dog was trained to track? [[Special:Contributions/82.41.41.200|82.41.41.200]] ([[User talk:82.41.41.200|talk]]) 09:01, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

== Article quality ==

Considering how many sources there are for this article, it isn't in great shape. Specifically, we should certainly mention the many efforts, led by his mother, to have Mitchell's sentence overturned. But, per [[WP:DUE]], this should not be the main emphasis of the article. As far as the law goes, he is a convicted murderer. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 13:37, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
:Thanks to {{u|Kieronoldham}} for the help in improving it. As always, the best sources summarised fairly will give us the best article. [[User:John|John]] ([[User talk:John|talk]]) 17:44, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
::Was going to get around to the internal ref. formats, John. Thanks.--[[User:Kieronoldham|Kieronoldham]] ([[User talk:Kieronoldham|talk]]) 02:01, 13 October 2022 (UTC)

== Trolls ==

This is being written by trolls and it should be removed. If only one side is allowed to be heard then the site is complicit in spreading false information. The brother did not say Luke wasn’t in the house he said he couldn’t remember after saying he was at home and being pestered to change it. so this is false. Wiki needs to correct all the information in this or shut it down completely [[Special:Contributions/86.9.82.59|86.9.82.59]] ([[User talk:86.9.82.59|talk]]) 09:51, 1 October 2024 (UTC)


== DNA ==
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Joseph Jones was Phsycotic at the time of Jodis death. He had spoken with doctors when admitted to a mental facility and told them he attacked his sister months before her death. He also told them he was thinking about murdering someone and that he was suspicious of his family because he thought they were laughing at him. These medical records have been published online with his name redacted. He also stabbed his mother and wrecked his gran Alice’s house. If you want proof I can provide it [[Special:Contributions/86.9.82.59|86.9.82.59]] ([[User talk:86.9.82.59|talk]]) 10:32, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Joseph Jones was Phsycotic at the time of Jodis death. He had spoken with doctors when admitted to a mental facility and told them he attacked his sister months before her death. He also told them he was thinking about murdering someone and that he was suspicious of his family because he thought they were laughing at him. These medical records have been published online with his name redacted. He also stabbed his mother and wrecked his gran Alice’s house. If you want proof I can provide it [[Special:Contributions/86.9.82.59|86.9.82.59]] ([[User talk:86.9.82.59|talk]]) 10:32, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

== Essay by Mark Kane ==

The essays written by Mark Kane were found in an envelope in 2013 by the sccrc.

Essay from Mark Kane "No Remorse" found in 2013 Envelope and contents evidence number 359051 - original copy [[Special:Contributions/86.9.82.59|86.9.82.59]] ([[User talk:86.9.82.59|talk]]) 10:41, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

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DNA

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The SCCRC admitted in 2014 that they found Semen on the trousers of Jodi Jones and they confirmed it was not Luke Mitchell’s. The semen was on trousers used to tie her hands together behind her back. There was also Sperm found on Jodi’s T-Shirt and blood on her bra. This has been widely reported on social media with proof. The owner of the semen and blood on Jodi belonged to her sisters boyfriend Stephen Kelly. The trouser Sample has not been linked to anyone even though it was ruled out as being Mr Mitchell’s because the only thought it necessary to check if it was Luke’s. The MSM are not reliable sources of information but wiki only accepts news articles which are heavily manipulated. 86.9.82.59 (talk) 10:18, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Burning of clothes.

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Luke Mitchell’s Mother had a log burner that was tested forensically. No evidence of any Parka was found in this log burner there was also no physical evidence IE cctv to prove Luke wore one prior to Jodis death. There was evidence of burning baby clothes and cable ties by John Ferris sister and Mother on the night of the murder. 86.9.82.59 (talk) 10:28, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Medical Records

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Joseph Jones was Phsycotic at the time of Jodis death. He had spoken with doctors when admitted to a mental facility and told them he attacked his sister months before her death. He also told them he was thinking about murdering someone and that he was suspicious of his family because he thought they were laughing at him. These medical records have been published online with his name redacted. He also stabbed his mother and wrecked his gran Alice’s house. If you want proof I can provide it 86.9.82.59 (talk) 10:32, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Essay by Mark Kane

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The essays written by Mark Kane were found in an envelope in 2013 by the sccrc.

Essay from Mark Kane "No Remorse" found in 2013 Envelope and contents evidence number 359051 - original copy 86.9.82.59 (talk) 10:41, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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