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-===23 June 2024===
-{{SPI case status|CUrequest}}
-====Suspected sockpuppets====
-{{sock list|1=Hashid Khan|2=Mightyancestors|3=Jhalasss|4=Chhabri02|5=2409:4052:238c:4a6c:612:3f29:a727:8db6|6=2409:4052:8ec8:8c3:7d84:785:1130:201b|tools_link=yes}}<!-- Add more accounts or IPs to this template as needed -->
-{{no ping|Hashid Khan}} is a sock of  [[User:Rudra Simha|Rudra Simha]] who was blocked as confirmed sock of [[User:R2dra|R2dra]] & [[User:Rajanyas|Rajanyas]]. In first place
-[[User:Rudra Simha|Rudra Simha]] restored the old revision of [[Rajputs in Gujarat]][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Rajputs_in_Gujarat&diff=prev&oldid=1225942496], same attempt again made by new sock {{no ping|Hashid Khan}}[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Rajputs_in_Gujarat&diff=prev&oldid=1230577585], same attempt was also made by [[Sock IP]]  [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Rajputs_in_Gujarat&diff=prev&oldid=1226016401] this IP range was blocked by @[[User:Smalljim|Smalljim]] for vandalizing many wiki pages & [[WP:LTA|LTA]]. [[Rudra Simha]] made edits on [[List of battles in Rajasthan]][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=List_of_battles_in_Rajasthan&diff=prev&oldid=1226215467], and [[Hashid Khan]] also made edits on same page [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=List_of_battles_in_Rajasthan&diff=prev&oldid=1230542539]. Edits of {{no ping|Jhalasss}}[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Chavda_dynasty&diff=prev&oldid=1229710327] & {{no ping|Mightyancestors}}[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Chavda_dynasty&diff=prev&oldid=1229971603]  overlapping with the blocked [[IP Range]],[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2409:4052:2E43:59B0:9867:E65E:76B5:93C0],[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/2409:4052:8EC8:8C3:7D84:785:1130:201B] and with other blocked sokcs [[User:Gaurav Bisen Powar|Gaurav Bisen Powar]][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Chavda_dynasty&diff=prev&oldid=1222546858] & [[User:Rajanyas|Rajanyas]][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Chavda_dynasty&diff=prev&oldid=1219066660] as both these users made edits on [[Chavda dynasty]] and inserted word ''Rajput dynasty''.
-{{No ping|Mightyancestors}} in next place also inserted term ''Rajput dynasty'' in lead on the pages of [[Kalachuri dynasty]][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Kalachuri_dynasty&diff=prev&oldid=1229972625], [[Rashtrakutas]][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Rashtrakutas&diff=prev&oldid=1229971101], [[Chahamanas of Shakambhari]][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Chahamanas_of_Shakambhari&diff=prev&oldid=1229969419] & [[Pala empire]][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Pala_Empire&diff=prev&oldid=1229970811].
-**[[Hashid Khan]][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=List_of_battles_in_Rajasthan&diff=prev&oldid=1230542539] and [[Rudra Simha]][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=List_of_battles_in_Rajasthan&diff=prev&oldid=1226215467] both have quite similar summaries like Added links/Added citation. [[User:Vanrajeya|Vanrajeya]] ([[User talk:Vanrajeya|talk]]) 18:47, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
-====<big>Comments by other users</big>====
-:<small>''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SPI/Guidance#Defending yourself against claims|Defending yourself against claims]].''</small>
-====<big>Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments</big>====
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-===23 June 2024===
-{{SPI case status|CUrequest}}
-====Suspected sockpuppets====
-{{sock list|1=Mohammad Umar Ali|2=Rawn3012|3=Hashid Khan|tools_link=yes}}<!-- Add more accounts or IPs to this template as needed -->
-*All three heavily edit Indian MILHIST articles pertaining to Mewar and the Rajputs in support of them:
-**Hahid Khan: ([https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Battle_of_Kakkor&diff=prev&oldid=1230586910][https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Prince_Salim%27s_Invasion_of_Mewar&diff=prev&oldid=1230542093])
-**MuA ([https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Kingdom_of_Mewar&diff=prev&oldid=1230426499])
-**Rawn3012 ([https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Mewar-Malwa_conflict&diff=prev&oldid=1225546616])
-*All have voted on the [[Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mewar%E2%80%93Delhi_Sultanate_Wars|AfD]] for "Mewar–Delhi Sultanate Wars" with keeps: [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mewar%E2%80%93Delhi_Sultanate_Wars&diff=prev&oldid=1230560012] [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mewar%E2%80%93Delhi_Sultanate_Wars&diff=prev&oldid=1229717566] [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mewar%E2%80%93Delhi_Sultanate_Wars&diff=prev&oldid=1229775618], and MuA and Rawn both voted delete on the [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maratha–Nizam wars|AfD]] for "Maratha–Nizam wars" [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Maratha%E2%80%93Nizam_wars&diff=prev&oldid=1223747603] [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Maratha%E2%80%93Nizam_wars&diff=prev&oldid=1222847400], and the [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nizam's Carnatic campaigns (1725-27)|AfD]] for "Nizam's Carnatic campaigns" [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Nizam%27s_Carnatic_campaigns_(1725-27)&diff=prev&oldid=1229868371] [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Nizam%27s_Carnatic_campaigns_(1725-27)&diff=prev&oldid=1230332578] (see also that {{u|Constructive45}} is a suspected sock in the "other group")
-*Both also used the exact same quote and link in the same discussion on the Maratha Confederacy talk page ([https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Maratha_Confederacy&diff=prev&oldid=1225544997] [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Maratha_Confederacy&diff=prev&oldid=1225415306])
-*All three consistently oppose the other sockgroup ([[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/AdityaNakul]]) in AfDs and talk pages; see the previous Maratha-Nizam and Nizam's Carnatic campaigns AfDs, in addition to the other evidence below:
-*All three edited {{u|Ratnahastin}}'s talk page, and Hashid Khan did so mentioning his suspicion of a sock for the "other side" while having only 3 edits and an account age of 1 day: ([https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ratnahastin&diff=prev&oldid=1230525736] [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ratnahastin&diff=prev&oldid=1230526347] Rawn: [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ratnahastin&diff=prev&oldid=1223215609] MuA: [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ratnahastin&diff=prev&oldid=1229795637]);
-*Rawn, MuA, and confirmed socks {{u|Mughalised}} and {{u|BasedMaratha}} commented on the talk page of the Mewar-Delhi Sultanate Wars article numerous times ([https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_wars_between_the_Kingdom_of_Mewar_and_the_Delhi_Sultanate&diff=prev&oldid=1211280723] [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_wars_between_the_Kingdom_of_Mewar_and_the_Delhi_Sultanate&diff=prev&oldid=1210627320] [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_wars_between_the_Kingdom_of_Mewar_and_the_Delhi_Sultanate&diff=prev&oldid=1210671547]), and Mughalised defended MuA as well [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_wars_between_the_Kingdom_of_Mewar_and_the_Delhi_Sultanate&diff=prev&oldid=1211780712] (Sockmaster R2dra also edited this page [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=List_of_wars_between_the_Kingdom_of_Mewar_and_the_Delhi_Sultanate&diff=prev&oldid=1210222487] but not the talk page) {{emdash}} all of these comments were in the same discussion with {{u|ImperialAficionado}}.
-In addition to this evidence, {{u|HistoryofIran}} made a [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1157#Jonharojjashi,_part_2|lengthy report]] on ANI on the conflict between these Indian MILHIST sockfarms which contains more evidence. There is also [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mr Anonymous 699/Archive|this sockgroup]], who's member {{u|Based Kashmiri}} mass-[[WP:G5|G5]]'d, nominated for deletion, and reverted edits of members of the AdityaNakul group; It's not clear if this (R2dra) and the Based Kashmiri group are related, but it's all very messy. [[User:Flemmish Nietzsche|Flemmish Nietzsche]] ([[User talk:Flemmish Nietzsche|talk]]) 19:19, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
-It seems there was also a filing for Hashid Khan right above this that I failed to see, posted an hour before I posted mine, but mysteriously the posting user only has 6 edits. Either way, more evidence. [[User:Flemmish Nietzsche|Flemmish Nietzsche]] ([[User talk:Flemmish Nietzsche|talk]]) 19:56, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
-====<big>Comments by other users</big>====
-:<small>''Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SPI/Guidance#Defending yourself against claims|Defending yourself against claims]].''</small>
-<B> Comment for the Administrator: </B> Flemmish has alleged that I am a possible sock puppet of R2dra based on no strong evidence.<br><br>
-.) Flemmish mentioned that I am heavily involved in articles pertaining to Mewar and the Rajputs [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Kingdom_of_Mewar&diff=prev&oldid=1230426499].
-*This is because I am editing the articles related to military history (mostly Indian) on Wikipedia. You can even see my user page [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mohammad_Umar_Ali] in which I added months back that I am interested in history so it's obvious that I will edit history articles. There is no Wikipedia guidelines that only specific users could do that. Moreover this edit [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Kingdom_of_Mewar&diff=prev&oldid=1230426499] (which Flemmish linked) has sources cited beside it, if I were to push my POV why would I cite reliable sources (WP:RS)?
-.) Flemmish then mentioned that I have voted in the AFDs.
-*Deletion discussion of Mewar-Delhi Sultanate wars[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Mewar%E2%80%93Delhi_Sultanate_Wars&diff=prev&oldid=1229775618]. I am the author [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mohammad_Umar_Ali#AfC_notification:_Draft:List_of_wars_between_Kingdom_of_Mewar_and_the_Delhi_Sultanate_has_a_new_comment] of this article which makes it obvious to vote if any user nominates it for deletion.
-*The user also mentioned that I participated in other deletion discussions [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Maratha%E2%80%93Nizam_wars&diff=prev&oldid=1222847400], I already told that I edit the articles related to military history (mostly Indian) so if such an article (from Indian history) was nominated for deletion, I participated in deletion discussion. I also provided the reason regarding my take and participation in discussion should not be a problem.
-*And I was the one who nominated Nizam's Carnatic campaign (1725-27) article for deletion see this [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Nizam%27s_Carnatic_campaigns_(1725-27)&diff=prev&oldid=1229783728] so it is obvious I would be part of the discussion there [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Nizam%27s_Carnatic_campaigns_(1725-27)&diff=prev&oldid=1230332578].
-*Also, in future too, I might be involved in more such discussions so will this user(or others) always suggest my name as a possible sock puppet?
-.) Regarding the issue that I oppose AdityaNakul;
-*I was opposing the editor DeepstoneV (now confirmed sockpuppet of AdityaNakul) as he was constantly reverting my edits without any justification. So, I decided to post these messages on his talk page [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:DeepstoneV&diff=prev&oldid=1222145269], [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DeepstoneV#Don't_edit_an_article_as_per_your_POV] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DeepstoneV#Stop_your_disruptive_editing].
-*Moreover, I even asked an administrator's help for it see this [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mohammad_Umar_Ali#Help_to_block_a_vandal/spammer_who_has_been_sufficiently_warned].
-*Also, some other editor previously had an investigation regarding whether I was a possible sockpuppet of AdityaNakul with this same evidence of talk page which Flemmish too has used. That investigation didn't find me involved in sockpuppetry [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Mohammad_Umar_Ali].
-*This is a serious issue, someone in future again could use this same Deepstone v issue and allege me of sockpuppetry so kindly do something regarding this.
-.) Regarding editing Ratnahastin's talk page [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ratnahastin&diff=prev&oldid=1229795637]
-* When I nominated Niam's Carnatic Campaign article (1725-27) I asked other users involved in Indian history to put forward their views in the deletion discussion. And Ratnahastin was a part of those users. See this [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Rawn3012#Regarding_deletion_discussion_on_Nizam's_Carnatic_campaigns_(1725-27)_article],[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:RangersRus&diff=prev&oldid=1229795766], [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Krayon95&diff=prev&oldid=1229787897], [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ratnahastin&diff=prev&oldid=1229795637]
-.) Regarding comments on Mewar-Delhi talk page [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_wars_between_the_Kingdom_of_Mewar_and_the_Delhi_Sultanate&diff=prev&oldid=1211280723]
-*As, I already told before that this article [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_between_the_Kingdom_of_Mewar_and_the_Delhi_Sultanate] (Mewar-Delhi wars now redirected to List of wars between the Kingdom of Mewar and the Delhi Sultanate) was created by me and User:Imprial had some problems with it so he wanted to have a discussion with me on the article's talk page [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_wars_between_the_Kingdom_of_Mewar_and_the_Delhi_Sultanate].
-*In response I commented this regarding the discussion [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_wars_between_the_Kingdom_of_Mewar_and_the_Delhi_Sultanate&diff=prev&oldid=1209186485]. Later, I had a long discussion with Imperial on the article's talk page.
-*The comment with Flemmish [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_wars_between_the_Kingdom_of_Mewar_and_the_Delhi_Sultanate&diff=prev&oldid=1211280723] has linked is one of those comments from the discussion. Besides, I would like to ask Flemmish how to have a discussion without commenting?
-*And I have no authority to stop other users from commenting or participating in the discussion, if someone defends me [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_wars_between_the_Kingdom_of_Mewar_and_the_Delhi_Sultanate&diff=prev&oldid=1211780712] or support my comment that doesn't confirm that he/she is my sockpuppet or vice-versa. After a draft is accepted anyone can edit it be it R2dra [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=List_of_wars_between_the_Kingdom_of_Mewar_and_the_Delhi_Sultanate&diff=prev&oldid=1210222487] or Flemmish [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=List_of_wars_between_the_Kingdom_of_Mewar_and_the_Delhi_Sultanate&diff=prev&oldid=1229210634] or Padfoot2008 [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=List_of_wars_between_the_Kingdom_of_Mewar_and_the_Delhi_Sultanate&diff=prev&oldid=1229310982]. Since the discussion was initiated by Imperial [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:List_of_wars_between_the_Kingdom_of_Mewar_and_the_Delhi_Sultanate&diff=prev&oldid=1209168854], all were replying to him as he was the only active user in the discussion supporting something different which others weren't.
-.) Regarding report by HistoryofIran [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1157#Jonharojjashi,_part_2], etc.
-*I don't see HistoryofIran's report [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/IncidentArchive1157#Jonharojjashi,_part_2] mentioning me which indicates that he is not suspicious of me being involved in sockpuppetry. This [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Mr_Anonymous_699/Archive] which Flemmish mentioned also doesn't involve me.<br>
-<B> So, I have answered each of the alleged claims by Flemmish of me being involved in sockpuppetry. I think that now he would also understand that I am not involved in any kind of sockpuppetry.</b> <br>[[User:Mohammad Umar Ali|Mohammad Umar Ali]] ([[User talk:Mohammad Umar Ali|talk]]) 09:17, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
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