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Blackmun's "Chronological" Entry

The only reason I've been mentioning about Harry Blackmun's "chronological" entry in the Supreme Court decision is to sum up the day. He wrote "Abortion decisions down. LBJ dies." I only note this to mention the role that the Supreme Court also played in paying tribute to LBJ. It is relevant, not trivia, because of who led the SCOTUS tributes. -- SnoopyAndCharlieBrown202070 (talk)

Justices in the Majority

For the justices in the majority, should we keep the picture of just Harry Blackmun, as he wrote the majority opinion, or can we also add those of Chief Justice of Warren Burger and Thurgood Marshall? The only reason I'm asking this is because the big news the day of Roe v. Wade was the passing of LBJ and although both Burger and Marshall were in the majority, they also led the SCOTUS tributes on the passing. SnoopyAndCharlieBrown202070 (talk) 01:33, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Death of LBJ

One thing that I mentioned here that was removed, but I feel that it needs to be mentioned is that the news of Roe v. Wade was overshadowed by that of the passing of LBJ and that both happened on the same day. The passing of LBJ overshadowed Roe v. Wade and was the banner headlines on newspapers the day after. I used Golden Age Nursing Home fire article as the guide, as that happened the day after the assassination of JFK, but the news of it was overshadowed by the assassination. SnoopyAndCharlieBrown202070 (talk) 23:39, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discrepancy in dates

Under History of the case, there is an apparent discrepancy between the second paragraph, which states that McCorvey discovered her pregnancy in June 1969, and the third, which states that she gave birth on June 2, 1970. Both cite apparently reliable sources, which do support the respective claims: the first date is given by Arlidge in The Lawyers Who Made America, while the second is given by Prager in Jane Roe's Baby Tells Her Story. How should this be resolved?

Personally, looking at both sources, I'm inclined to attribute this to a mistake of fact on Arlidge's part, even if his book is generally reliable. The claim for the date of birth is more specific and more recent, and the article indicates it's based on the author's access to primary sources. Arlidge does not indicate where he got the date for his claim. Agreeable-absurdist (talk) 16:03, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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+==Blackmun's "Chronological" Entry==
-== "Conferred" vs "Granted"  ==
+The only reason I've been mentioning about Harry Blackmun's "chronological" entry in the Supreme Court decision is to sum up the day. He wrote "Abortion decisions down. LBJ dies." I only note this to mention the role that the Supreme Court also played in paying tribute to LBJ. It is relevant, not trivia, because of who led the SCOTUS tributes. -- [[User:SnoopyAndCharlieBrown202070|SnoopyAndCharlieBrown202070]] ([[User talk:SnoopyAndCharlieBrown202070|talk]])
+== Justices in the Majority ==
-@[[User:IrishLas|IrishLas]] You changed the language of the sentence from "granted" to "conferred", asserting that the word is hard to understand for those without a law degree. In addition, you stated that my reversion of your edit was "condescending". To avoid violating 3RR, it would be best to discuss the change here.
+For the justices in the majority, should we keep the picture of just Harry Blackmun, as he wrote the majority opinion, or can we also add those of Chief Justice of [[Warren Burger]] and [[Thurgood Marshall]]? The only reason I'm asking this is because the big news the day of ''Roe v. Wade'' was the passing of LBJ and although both Burger and Marshall were in the majority, they also led the SCOTUS tributes on the passing. [[User:SnoopyAndCharlieBrown202070|SnoopyAndCharlieBrown202070]] ([[User talk:SnoopyAndCharlieBrown202070|talk]]) 01:33, 17 July 2024 (UTC)
-I don't believe anything in my original reversion was in any way "condescending," and I certainly did not intend it to be so. In fact, as I mentioned, the word "conferred" is '''also''' used to describe Roe vs. Wade in legal text (e.g. [https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/19-1392_6j37.pdf it is used as such in ''Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization'' on its very first page] ) in addition to being just a general term in the English language. Partly the reason why I reverted your edit was because of uniformity, since the page for [[Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization]] uses "confer" aswell. As a non-lawyer myself, I found no issue with "conferred" in either the pages. [[User:GuardianH|GuardianH]] ([[User talk:GuardianH|talk]]) 22:51, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
-:Yes, you are 100% correct! Thank you for comments. You believed correctly. Sheesh, I was the one being condescending, so I'm sorry, very sorry for using that word describing you and/or your actions. Again, I'm truly sorry. TBH, ''I'' didn't know the meaning of "conferred" and I'm concidered "pretty smart" by my professor, and my parents as well :p I pretty much lacked tact for sure. I'm so sorry, my excuse is lack of sleep, though an excuse is an excuse and is me being an arse. I'm sorry. So please forgive me. [[User:IrishLas|IrishLas]] ([[User talk:IrishLas|talk]]) 22:25, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
-::No worries [[User:GuardianH|GuardianH]] ([[User talk:GuardianH|talk]]) 22:17, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
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+One thing that I mentioned here that was removed, but I feel that it needs to be mentioned is that the news of ''Roe v. Wade'' was overshadowed by that of the passing of LBJ and that both happened on the same day. The passing of LBJ overshadowed ''Roe v. Wade'' and was the banner headlines on newspapers the day after. I used [[Golden Age Nursing Home fire]] article as the guide, as that happened the day after the [[assassination of JFK]], but the news of it was overshadowed by the assassination. [[User:SnoopyAndCharlieBrown202070|SnoopyAndCharlieBrown202070]] ([[User talk:SnoopyAndCharlieBrown202070|talk]]) 23:39, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
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+== Discrepancy in dates ==
-==Blackmun's "Chronological" Entry==
-The only reason I've been mentioning about Harry Blackmun's "chronological" entry in the Supreme Court decision is to sum up the day. He wrote "Abortion decisions down. LBJ dies." I only note this to mention the role that the Supreme Court also played in paying tribute to LBJ. It is relevant, not trivia, because of who led the SCOTUS tributes. -- [[User:SnoopyAndCharlieBrown202070|SnoopyAndCharlieBrown202070]] ([[User talk:SnoopyAndCharlieBrown202070|talk]])
-== Death of LBJ ==
+Under [[Roe v. Wade#History of the case|History of the case]], there is an apparent discrepancy between the second paragraph, which states that McCorvey discovered her pregnancy in June 1969, and the third, which states that she gave birth on June 2, 1970. Both cite apparently reliable sources, which do support the respective claims: the first date is given by Arlidge in [https://books.google.com/books?id=1Uw0DgAAQBAJ&pg=PA176 The Lawyers Who Made America], while the second is given by Prager in [https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/09/jane-roe-v-wade-baby-norma-mccorvey/620009/ Jane Roe's Baby Tells Her Story]. How should this be resolved?
-I used the article [[Second inauguration of Richard Nixon]] as the guide for the main reason about adding details about the passing of [[Lyndon B. Johnson|LBJ]]. The passing came on the same day as ''Roe v. Wade'' and it was big news that day. People need to know that the passing overshadowed the ruling that day.
-As for the justices in the majority, the only ones we should have pictures of are Chief Justice Warren Burger and Thurgood Marshall, as they both led the Supreme Court tributes on the passing. People need to know that both the passing and the ruling came on the same day and that the big news was the passing. [[User:SnoopyAndCharlieBrown202070|SnoopyAndCharlieBrown202070]] ([[User talk:SnoopyAndCharlieBrown202070|talk]]) 14:54, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
+Personally, looking at both sources, I'm inclined to attribute this to a mistake of fact on Arlidge's part, even if his book is generally reliable. The claim for the date of birth is more specific and more recent, and the article indicates it's based on the author's access to primary sources. Arlidge does not indicate where he got the date for his claim. [[User:Agreeable-absurdist|Agreeable-absurdist]] ([[User talk:Agreeable-absurdist|talk]]) 16:03, 29 October 2024 (UTC)