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== Former trump supporter and disavows Qanon ==
==Sources==
Some sources to make the page:


That statement of former Trump supporter and disavowed Qanon is not accurate. He was recently on Luke Beasely show on Youtube. He still supports Trump and is still a conspiracy guy. [[User:70NofkrBS|70NofkrBS]] ([[User talk:70NofkrBS|talk]]) 02:50, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/03/08/tucker_carlson_capitol_police_escorted_qanon_shaman_around_jan_6_committee_withheld_footage_from_attorneys.html <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/74.62.75.106|74.62.75.106]] ([[User talk:74.62.75.106#top|talk]]) 07:03, 9 March 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== Article needs complete dates ==
https://conandaily.com/2021/01/07/jake-angeli-biography-13-things-about-q-shaman-from-phoenix-arizona/


Several dates need updating/more complete information.
https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/who-is-the-horned-man-who-stormed-the-capitol/news-story/de6853d19e8681a04aa0ee50c6e52b10


example:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/01/07/jake-angeli-qanon-shaman-arizona-heart-capitol-riots/
"On November 17, Chansley was sentenced..."


That partial date should include the year.
https://www.the-sun.com/news/2096968/qanon-shaman-jake-angeli-capitol/


Opening paragraph similarly gives the partial date of the incident as -
https://www.thefocus.news/business/jake-angeli/
"the January 6th United States Capitol Attack"


This too, and others within the article as well, should include the year in the date reference. [[Special:Contributions/2600:8800:181:3000:7880:CA78:431A:85F4|2600:8800:181:3000:7880:CA78:431A:85F4]] ([[User talk:2600:8800:181:3000:7880:CA78:431A:85F4|talk]]) 15:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
https://eu.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/arizona/2021/01/06/arizona-qanon-supporter-jake-angeli-joins-storming-u-s-capitol/6568513002/


== Navy photo ==
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/arizona-environment/2019/09/20/climate-change-march-downtown-phoenix-global-youth-climate-strike/2357094001/ <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/74.96.237.30|74.96.237.30]] ([[User talk:74.96.237.30#top|talk]]) 00:09, 8 January 2021 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


In case anyone wants to migrate a photo to commons:
--[[User:Topjur01|Topjur01]] ([[User talk:Topjur01|talk]]) 14:23, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
https://x.com/andrewpdyer/status/1349454472628457473 [[User:Victorgrigas|Victor Grigas]] ([[User talk:Victorgrigas|talk]]) 15:18, 21 May 2024 (UTC)


== proposed image edit ==
: Possible [[WP:WPNOTRS]] problems, but in case useful, some links from prior to the Capitol storming:<BR>https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-ddgys-c51af9<BR>https://www.linkedin.com/in/yellowstone-wolf-246aa7174/<BR>[[User:Jonathan Deamer|Jonathan Deamer]] ([[User talk:Jonathan Deamer|talk]]) 10:26, 10 January 2021 (UTC)


Shouldn't the main photo here be of Jacob Chansley, the human, and not in dress as the Q-anon Shaman? This image is a better fit for a page labeled, "Q-anon Shaman". [[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:37E0:F840:CD44:6178:81C0:1102|2600:1700:37E0:F840:CD44:6178:81C0:1102]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:37E0:F840:CD44:6178:81C0:1102|talk]]) 17:09, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
== Humanize ==


== Antifa involvement ==
The wiki article is missing information to humanize him, including that he’s a stay at home dad, or any information about his personal situation. [[User:Thoreaulylazy|Thoreaulylazy]] ([[User talk:Thoreaulylazy|talk]]) 03:18, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:Can you provide [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] for this information? - [[User:Adolphus79|Adolphus79]] ([[User talk:Adolphus79|talk]]) 03:42, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:In some sense, that type of thing is trivia. Obviously it is part of who he is, but the only reason there is an article about him here is because of his activities at the Capitol, his arrest, and his charges. That is naturally going to be the focus of this article. [[User:Mo Billings|Mo Billings]] ([[User talk:Mo Billings|talk]]) 04:28, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
*The big things when covering personal information of that sort is that there needs to be quite a bit of coverage in reliable sources to back this up. Not just to verify the claims, but also to justify adding this into the article. Keep in mind that while Angeli has received enough coverage to warrant being on Wikipedia (whether he wants to be or not), his family likely has not. There may also be potential for real world harm for any mention of them, even without naming them, which is another reason Wikipedia tends to leave off information about spouses and kids. Other non-family information tends to fall within this area as well. As far as humanizing goes, that's not really Wikipedia's purpose. The site's purpose is to document notable topics. In many cases this results in an article about the given topic only covering what specific event(s), works, or so on that made them notable. Even in non-controversial cases the media/RS tends to center upon the notability giving elements, so this limits what Wikipedia can generally include. [[User:ReaderofthePack|ReaderofthePack]]<small>(formerly Tokyogirl79)</small>[[User talk:ReaderofthePack|'''<span style="color:#19197; background:#fff;"> (｡◕‿◕｡)</span>''']] 14:37, 1 March 2021 (UTC)


Buffalo Man claims he has never been associated with Antifa, which is a lie.
:How relevant or notable is, for example, him being a stay at home dad? Explicit efforts to "humanize" Chansley would seem to be showing interest in mitigating his criminal acts by portraying him as someone who wouldn't normal commit those acts ("but hes a good person"). This falls outside the purview of a wikipedia article. [[User:Petzl|Petzl]] ([[User talk:Petzl|talk]]) 08:10, 8 January 2023 (UTC)


He was arrested multiple time in AZ and NM for rioting with Antifa. He was a registered democrat also during these times. [[User:Seadansr|Seadansr]] ([[User talk:Seadansr|talk]]) 05:18, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
== Title ==


:Reliable Sources are required [[User:EvergreenFir|'''<span style="color:#8b00ff;">Eve</span><span style="color:#6528c2;">rgr</span><span style="color:#3f5184;">een</span><span style="color:#197947;">Fir</span>''']] [[User talk:EvergreenFir|(talk)]] 05:21, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Back in January, I supported the Jake Angeli title because that seemed to be what most reliable sources called him. In recent months, it seems thst most reliable sources call him by his short legal name of Jacob Chansley. I have now concluded that the article should be moved to Jacob Chansley. Feedback welcomed. [[User:Cullen328|<b style="color:#070">Cullen</b><sup style="color:#707">328</sup>]] [[User talk:Cullen328|<span style="color:#00F">''Let's discuss it''</span>]] 03:44, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
:I agree. We could be BOLD (citing COMMONNAME) or open a move discussion if you think there would be objection to that reasoning. [[User:Kingsif|Kingsif]] ([[User talk:Kingsif|talk]]) 19:25, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
:: There is no mention of "Angeli" on the BBC world news sections on the riot or his conviction. Where did "Angeli" come from? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-59253090 [[Special:Contributions/2A00:23C8:8F9F:4801:5141:2FE9:8F86:5686|2A00:23C8:8F9F:4801:5141:2FE9:8F86:5686]] ([[User talk:2A00:23C8:8F9F:4801:5141:2FE9:8F86:5686|talk]]) 20:32, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
:::Googling [[google:"Jake+Angeli"+site:bbc.co.uk|"Jake Angeli" at the bbc.co.uk website]] returns several articles. -- [[User:Pemilligan|Pemilligan]] ([[User talk:Pemilligan|talk]]) 18:53, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

== Family Guy reference ==

The [[List of Family Guy episodes#Season 21 (2022)|latest episode]] of ''[[Family Guy]]'' made a visual reference to this individual. I'm not clear if it should warrant a reference in the [[Jake Angeli#In popular culture|popular culture section]] or not, but passing it along. <span style='color: darkblue;text-shadow:gray 0.3em 0.3em 0.1em; class=texhtml'>Surv1v4l1st</span> <sup><span style="font-size:7px">╠[[User_talk:Surv1v4l1st|Talk]]║[[Special:Contributions/Surv1v4l1st|Contribs]]╣</span></sup> 04:22, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

:If you do not have a [[WP:RS|reliable secondary source]] which draws conclusions, it's [[WP:OR]] and [[WP:UNDUE]]... [[User:Elizium23|Elizium23]] ([[User talk:Elizium23|talk]]) 04:27, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

== Release date ==

How would he have a Dec 6 2023 release date from a 41-month prison sentence (= 3 years and 5 months)? Counting from Jan 21 3 years and 5 months later should be June 24. Dec 23 would be short before 3 years. --[[User:Blobstar|Blobstar]] ([[User talk:Blobstar|talk]]) 11:39, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

New math…lol
The release date must have factored in by working time off, or information given. [[User:Easeltine|Easeltine]] ([[User talk:Easeltine|talk]]) 14:31, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Now it's even shortened to July 23. Where does that come from? --[[User:Blobstar|Blobstar]] ([[User talk:Blobstar|talk]]) 14:10, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

: The release date comes from the cited source ({{cite web |title=Federal Prison Info - Safford FCI |url=https://inmateintake.com/locations/safford-fci.174/ |website=Inmate Intake |access-date=February 13, 2023}}). We don't have a source for why it has changed, and we don't really need one in order to list the release date. -- [[User:Pemilligan|Pemilligan]] ([[User talk:Pemilligan|talk]]) 20:49, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

== Newly released video footage ==

I thought this might be useful for the article. Includes commentary from Fox News. It shows multiple police officers and multiple locations allowing him into different rooms.

What do others here think about including this in the article?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4qajVw5rGk

[[User:SquirrelHill1971|SquirrelHill1971]] ([[User talk:SquirrelHill1971|talk]]) 02:56, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

:Much more video footage. Skip to 17:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GITH8we-N3g
:[[User:SquirrelHill1971|SquirrelHill1971]] ([[User talk:SquirrelHill1971|talk]]) 03:05, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Anyway, after watching this, I don't think this wikipedia article does a very good job of explaining what this guy did to justify his multi-year prison sentence. I think the article needs to take this footage into account, and reexplain why he was sentenced to so long in prison.

[[User:SquirrelHill1971|SquirrelHill1971]] ([[User talk:SquirrelHill1971|talk]]) 04:32, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

:::the video on Carlson's report clearly shows police escorting him through the building, and even attempting to open doors for him. No one tries to impede his movements, which as Carlson points out, is unusual if his actions were illegal. He was unarmed and he passed through groups of half a dozen armed security/police, who actively move out of his way to let him through. Why does the article then claim he is "storming the capitol"?[[Special:Contributions/2604:3D09:C77:4E00:E866:521B:C19A:E46F|2604:3D09:C77:4E00:E866:521B:C19A:E46F]] ([[User talk:2604:3D09:C77:4E00:E866:521B:C19A:E46F|talk]]) 04:35, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
::::Yes. Exactly. That's why I requested that the article be improved by taking this video footage into account. I really don't think the article does a good job of explaining what actually happened, what he actually did, or why he was sentenced to prison for so long. Thanks for your comment. [[User:SquirrelHill1971|SquirrelHill1971]] ([[User talk:SquirrelHill1971|talk]]) 04:41, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

No article will contain any purported findings from selectively edited videos presented by Tucker Carlson unless they are fully corroborated by reliable sources. [[User:Soibangla|soibangla]] ([[User talk:Soibangla|talk]]) 04:51, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

:The "reliable sources" lied, again, just like they've lied about every other left-wing conspiracy theory - which is what the Jan. 6th "insurrection" is. Once again there is proof that it was propaganda. Will you guys fix it? [[Special:Contributions/63.155.115.196|63.155.115.196]] ([[User talk:63.155.115.196|talk]]) 11:21, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
::We don't make interpretations based on footage, and we don't consider Tucker Carlson a reliable source. Until there are further developments reported on, I don't see what needs to change in this article. — '''[[User:Czello|<i style="color:#8000FF">Czello</i>]]''' 12:40, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

:: We've all seen hours of footage of violence, in many places from many angles, but Carlson cherrypicks snippets of video to assert "The footage does not show an insurrection or a riot in progress. Taken as a whole, the video record does not support the claim that Jan. 6 was an insurrection. In fact, it demolishes that claim," calling them "sightseers." This is a delusional narrative. Are you aware that Fox News hosts and top executives recently acknowledged in private messages that they were lying to their viewers? I'm not confident that disclosure will chasten them; rather, I figure they're more likely to amp up their lying. Indeed, last night Carlson said, "In retrospect, it is clear the 2020 election was a grave betrayal of American democracy. Given the facts that have since emerged about that election, no honest person can deny it." In addition to being a total non sequitur from the video he was presenting, he's rekindling The Big Lie all over again. [[User:Soibangla|soibangla]] ([[User talk:Soibangla|talk]]) 15:10, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
:::lol your comment isn't removed for "soapboxing" or being off-topic yet a conservative one would be. Yeah I'm sure you've seen "hours of violence" and not snippets. "The Big Lie" is such an obvious term of propaganda yet it comes so easily from your mouth. [[Special:Contributions/63.155.115.196|63.155.115.196]] ([[User talk:63.155.115.196|talk]]) 16:29, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
::::soibangla's comment wasn't removed because they're explaining why we don't accept Carlson as a reliable source. You, on the other hand, seem to be arguing the topic - which is not what talk pages are for per [[WP:NOTAFORUM]]. — '''[[User:Czello|<i style="color:#8000FF">Czello</i>]]''' 16:52, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
This footage showing that the Police were his friends in this story of January 6th should be included in the article. It actually seems to indicate that Jake Angeli wanted to be thought of as a Martyr, to which the Justice System, and the Left-Wing Media sources, accommadated him by giving a longer Sentence than his activity deserved.[[User:Easeltine|Easeltine]] ([[User talk:Easeltine|talk]]) <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 15:17, 7 March 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:The police were not his friends, they did not "escort" him. They were following their riot training by passively standing off and watching him rather than get aggressive and exacerbate the riot. He was charged with multiple offenses and pleaded guilty, he gets out in four months. The media had nothing to do with it. [[User:Soibangla|soibangla]] ([[User talk:Soibangla|talk]]) 15:27, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments everyone. The content that is in the article is reliably sourced, so he really did do what it says he did. I now realize that this newly released footage does not negate any of that. Still, it is interesting to see him getting along with the police. I won't be adding this to the article, but thanks for your comments everyone. [[User:SquirrelHill1971|SquirrelHill1971]] ([[User talk:SquirrelHill1971|talk]]) 00:41, 8 March 2023 (UTC)

:SquirrelHill,
:Your brilliance is impressive. Are actually Attorney General Garland? Had to ask. Sincerely, Birkoff [[Special:Contributions/71.38.148.252|71.38.148.252]] ([[User talk:71.38.148.252|talk]]) 01:38, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

*This release was subject of widespread coverage. I see it picked up by secondary source [[WP:NEWSWEEK]] [https://www.newsweek.com/qanon-shaman-video-questions-capitol-police-january-6-tucker-carlson-1785996 here]. RSP says "Unlike articles before 2013, Newsweek articles since 2013 are not generally reliable." I see it was also picked up by [[WP:NYPOST]]. BBC also picks it up [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64883668 here] and that would be an RS for text that says "[Angeli] was videoed wandering around the Capitol building trailed by police officers who show no signs, at least in the clips broadcast, of attempting to stop or arrest him." [[User:Jtbobwaysf|Jtbobwaysf]] ([[User talk:Jtbobwaysf|talk]]) 06:55, 9 March 2023 (UTC)

(The following is not just about Jake, but about basic principles.) Not all intruders were violent, yet they still broke the law by entering the Capitol in that situation. We forget that just because a person may lead an otherwise peaceful life, they still get punished for that one time they break the law. It is therefore not improper for the media to focus on that one event. People who seek fame and notoriety, as Jake did, get noticed more and have more influence. This just adds to the coverage and the poor effect of their influence. Now Jake is paying the price and will be released in four months. -- [[User:Valjean|Valjean]] ([[User talk:Valjean|talk]]) ('''''[[Help:Notifications|PING me]]''''') 15:57, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
:What does this comment mean, are you quoting something or responding with you opinion about something? [[User:Jtbobwaysf|Jtbobwaysf]] ([[User talk:Jtbobwaysf|talk]]) 22:02, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
:: It's a comment to provide context for the situation. Some imply that because Jake wasn't violent here, that he is somehow innocent of the crimes he confessed to committing. No, he did violate the law. (Fortunately for him, he gets out of prison in four months.) My point is that one should not read more into that footage than it warrants. It's only a partial glimpse from much more footage showing Jake and his actions. One should think of the whole situation, which Carlson didn't show. All the insurrectionists who entered the Capitol that day broke one or more laws. The next time you're behind someone who breaks the law to get into a building, don't follow them inside. That's all. Let's move on. -- [[User:Valjean|Valjean]] ([[User talk:Valjean|talk]]) ('''''[[Help:Notifications|PING me]]''''') 00:02, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
:::seems you are discussing the event itself or the legal issues stemming from it, please focus on the content on this BLP. [[User:Jtbobwaysf|Jtbobwaysf]] ([[User talk:Jtbobwaysf|talk]]) 00:13, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
===Proposal 1===
'''Comment''' Would adding this be warranted? Any reformulations or alternatives are welcome:
::In March 2023, selected video footage presented by Tucker Carlson on Fox News depicted Angeli walking through the Capitol building in the company of police officers who appeared to make no visible effort to stop him. Carlson, who was given exclusive access to the security footage by a top congressional Republican, characterized the officers as "tour guides" for Angeli and noted that none of the officers arrested him.<ref>{{Cite news |date=2023-03-08 |title=Fox News host Tucker Carlson not credible, says White House |language=en-GB |work=BBC News |url=https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64883668 |access-date=2023-03-09}}</ref> U.S. Capitol Police Chief Tom Manger denounced Carlson's segment, calling the show "filled with offensive and misleading conclusions." Manger specifically took issue with Carlson's claim that Capitol Police officers acted as "tour guides" for Angeli. He maintained that Capitol Police officers were badly outnumbered and did their best to use de-escalation tactics to try to talk rioters into leaving the building.<ref>{{Cite web |last=Jackman |first=Tom |title=Capitol Police chief blasts Tucker Carlson over ‘misleading’ Jan. 6 footage |url=https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2023/03/07/capitol-police-tucker-carlson-footage/ |website=The Washington Post}}</ref>
::Angeli's attorney claimed to have no prior knowledge of the footage and contended that the government is obligated to present all evidence, even exculpatory evidence, and that this duty is absolute rather than discretionary. Nonetheless, it remains unclear whether the footage can be used during court proceedings.<ref>{{Cite web |last=Polantz |first=Hannah Rabinowitz,Katelyn |date=2023-03-09 |title=Tucker Carlson's airing of security footage spills into January 6 criminal court cases {{!}} CNN Politics |url=https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/09/politics/tucker-carlson-january-6-court-cases-us-capitol/index.html |access-date=2023-03-09 |website=CNN |language=en}}</ref>
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:{{u|Mooonswimmer}} added this. Please sign your comments. I have created a sub-section to format as a proposal. [[User:Jtbobwaysf|Jtbobwaysf]] ([[User talk:Jtbobwaysf|talk]]) 00:08, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
:: Missing sig added. It looks okay to me. It can always be tweaked by others, and that's what usually happens, which is fine. -- [[User:Valjean|Valjean]] ([[User talk:Valjean|talk]]) ('''''[[Help:Notifications|PING me]]''''') 00:12, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
:::thx, i went ahead and added it as didnt seem to be objected to here. [[User:Jtbobwaysf|Jtbobwaysf]] ([[User talk:Jtbobwaysf|talk]]) 00:52, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
::::I don't think 'Arrest and criminal proceedings' is the best sub-section to add it under though. [[User:Mooonswimmer|Mooonswimmer]] 01:00, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
::::: Good point. It would be better as the second paragraph in the "Participation in the 2021 Capitol attack" section. -- [[User:Valjean|Valjean]] ([[User talk:Valjean|talk]]) ('''''[[Help:Notifications|PING me]]''''') 01:07, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
::::::I made the move. [[User:Iamreallygoodatcheckers|<b style="color: #E2062C ;"> ''Iamreallygoodatcheckers''</b>]]<sup>[[User talk:Iamreallygoodatcheckers|<b style="color: #000000;"> talk</b>]]</sup> 01:16, 10 March 2023 (UTC)


{{Reflist-talk}}

== birthplace ==

His Early Life sections seems to be missing a lot of information, like where he was born and who his father was, also family background. [[User:Leasnam|Leasnam]] ([[User talk:Leasnam|talk]]) 04:49, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

:Do you have any [[WP:BLP]]-good sources for content on this? [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 17:05, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

== Jacob chansley ==

Correct your information people. Watch the new video footage that has been released [[Special:Contributions/2602:4C:612:7D00:1488:3CC9:2D9C:B093|2602:4C:612:7D00:1488:3CC9:2D9C:B093]] ([[User talk:2602:4C:612:7D00:1488:3CC9:2D9C:B093|talk]]) 16:37, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

:A print source is probably better to use for something like the full name than video footage. —'''[[User:C.Fred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred|talk]]) 18:15, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
:We already note his given name in the first sentence of the article. [[User:VQuakr|VQuakr]] ([[User talk:VQuakr|talk]]) 19:29, 10 March 2023 (UTC)

== Requested move 24 March 2023 ==

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The result of the move request was: '''moved.''' clear consensus to move <small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Closure by a page mover|closed by non-admin page mover]])</small> [[User:Elli|Elli]] ([[User_talk:Elli|talk]] &#124; [[Special:Contributions/Elli|contribs]]) 10:08, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
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[[:Jake Angeli]] → {{no redirect|Jacob Chansley}} – [[WP:UCN]]. The so-called QAnon Shaman has been referred to as "Jacob Chansley" in [https://www.justice.gov/opa/page/file/1352916/download court documents]. Most press coverage since 2022 has referred to him as "Jacob Chansley". [https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/582268-qanon-shaman-lawyer-to-trump-take-care-of-the-jackasses-that/ The Hill] [https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-capitol-riot-qanon-shaman-lawyers-wrangle-week-after-sentencing-2021-11-22/ Reuters] [https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/qanon-shaman-capitol-rioter-wore-horns-hires-new-lawyers-rcna6397 NBC News] [[User:Schierbecker|Schierbecker]] ([[User talk:Schierbecker|talk]]) 17:12, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
*This is a remarkably quiet move discussion. I '''support''' the proposal for the reasons stated above. I'd also point out some earlier support further up this page. -- [[user:zzuuzz|zzuuzz]] <sup>[[user_talk:zzuuzz|(talk)]]</sup> 22:36, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
*This is a case where a descriptive name probably would be more recognizable than either his legal name or pseudonymn (I'm not proposing moving it there, to be clear). Yes, weakly '''support''' move to the legal name that appears to be more frequently used in recent sources. [[User:VQuakr|VQuakr]] ([[User talk:VQuakr|talk]]) 22:41, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
* '''Support:''' Angeli is his second middle name, I never see him described as Angeli except in the context of an aka. [[User:Soibangla|soibangla]] ([[User talk:Soibangla|talk]]) 17:57, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
* '''Support:''' Jacob Chansley is the name used all over the news and the internet, so changing the name from Jake Angeli to Jacob Chansley on here makes sense. [[User:Froggy26rk|Froggly26rk]] ([[User talk:Froggy26rk|talk]]) 20:21, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
* '''Question:''' how does he refer to himself? [[User:Jtbobwaysf|Jtbobwaysf]] ([[User talk:Jtbobwaysf|talk]]) 06:42, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
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== Still in custody of BOP facility ==

Article shows he is out of custody, but Bureau of Prisons records [https://www.bop.gov/mobile/find_inmate/byname.jsp state] Chansley's current location as RRM Phoenix, a federal residential reentry facility operated by the BOP with release date of May 25, 2023. The article cited cites the mother who may know understand the difference that he is still in federal custody since he is technically 'not in prison.' I think his status should be changed to ''In Custody, RRM Phoenix''. His expected release date from custody is still May 25, 2023. Additional cites: [https://www.npr.org/2023/03/31/1167319814/qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley-capitol-riot-early-release-reentry cite 1] [https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jan-6-rioter-qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley-secures-early-release-prison-halfway-house-lawyer-says cite 2] [https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley-out-of-prison-living-in-arizona-halfway-house-15904762 Cite 3]. Since this article has several maintaining editors, I'll just drop this here and let you all decide how to proceed. Cheers. [[User:P37307|P37307]] ([[User talk:P37307|talk]]) 21:17, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

== Is this paragraph accurate as stated? ==

"On November 17, Chansley was sentenced to 41 months in prison. He served his sentence at Federal Correctional Institution - Safford in Safford, Arizona, with an original release date of May 25, 2023. On March 30, 2023, attorney Albert Watkins announced Chansley had just been released from prison 14 months early and moved to a halfway house." This statement seems inaccurate to me, as it states Chansley was released from prison 14 months early, yet it lists the original release date as May 25, 2023, and his release date as March 30, 2023. That totals to less than two months, not the 14 months mentioned. Is there information here that may be missing? Or is this a typographical error? Thanks. Xanderson 08:12, 29 May 2023 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Xanderson|Xanderson]] ([[User talk:Xanderson#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xanderson|contribs]]) </small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

The 41 months count from Jan 21, including the time he was already in custody before the sentence from Nov 21. A release in Mar 23 makes 27 months from Jan 21, which is 14 earlier than 41. --[[User:Blobstar|Blobstar]] ([[User talk:Blobstar|talk]]) 09:27, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

:Thank you so much for your reply. I'm still not quite clear, though. Nov. 21, 2021 to March 23, 2023 is 28 months. Sorry if I seem picky, I just want to understand this and make sure it's accurate. If the custody date is Nov. 21, then shouldn't the original release date be 41 months after that, thus it would be April 21, 2024? This is where I'm confused. Thanks for your insights. Xanderson 07:34, 30 May 2023 (UTC) Xanderson 07:34, 30 May 2023 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Xanderson|Xanderson]] ([[User talk:Xanderson#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Xanderson|contribs]]) </small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:: Because he was in pre-trial custody since Jan 9, 2021 you need to count from Jan 21, not Nov 21. January 2021 plus 3y5m (41m) would be May 2024. January 2021 to March 2023 was 27 months. That's why when he was released from prison in March 23, they said he was released after 27 months, 14 months earlier than the original 41. --[[User:Blobstar|Blobstar]] ([[User talk:Blobstar|talk]]) 12:27, 3 June 2023 (UTC)

== Yoga leggings ==

He is now selling yoga leggings as "America's Shaman".[https://www.vice.com/en/article/4a3xm9/qanon-shaman-out-of-jail-selling-leggings] That should probably go in the article. Also the mention of "original release date" of May 25 2023 doesn't sound like it can be right, since the original sentence was 41 months starting no earlier than November 2021. [[Special:Contributions/2601:644:8501:CF70:0:0:0:7260|2601:644:8501:CF70:0:0:0:7260]] ([[User talk:2601:644:8501:CF70:0:0:0:7260|talk]]) 11:51, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
::He has a whole store with Shaman-themed items. Why just mention the pants? [[Special:Contributions/57.135.233.22|57.135.233.22]] ([[User talk:57.135.233.22|talk]]) 06:09, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

== Notoriety ==

It seems his notoriety stems from his appearance, not any particular action he took on Jan 6. Without the costume, he would have just been another anonymous person in the crowd. [[Special:Contributions/57.135.233.22|57.135.233.22]] ([[User talk:57.135.233.22|talk]]) 06:00, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

:It wasn't just his clothes.
:*{{tq|Chansley entered the Senate floor in the Capitol, ... was also photographed standing on the raised platform in front of Vice President Mike Pence's chair, gaining him significant media attention.}}
:*{{tq|In a January 14 court filing, federal prosecutors said that Chansley had left a note on Pence's desk in the Senate chamber that said "It's only a matter of time, justice is coming."}}
:-- [[User:Pemilligan|Pemilligan]] ([[User talk:Pemilligan|talk]]) 12:33, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 09:40, 15 November 2024

Former trump supporter and disavows Qanon

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That statement of former Trump supporter and disavowed Qanon is not accurate. He was recently on Luke Beasely show on Youtube. He still supports Trump and is still a conspiracy guy. 70NofkrBS (talk) 02:50, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article needs complete dates

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Several dates need updating/more complete information.

example: "On November 17, Chansley was sentenced..."

That partial date should include the year.

Opening paragraph similarly gives the partial date of the incident as - "the January 6th United States Capitol Attack"

This too, and others within the article as well, should include the year in the date reference. 2600:8800:181:3000:7880:CA78:431A:85F4 (talk) 15:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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In case anyone wants to migrate a photo to commons: https://x.com/andrewpdyer/status/1349454472628457473 Victor Grigas (talk) 15:18, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

proposed image edit

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Shouldn't the main photo here be of Jacob Chansley, the human, and not in dress as the Q-anon Shaman? This image is a better fit for a page labeled, "Q-anon Shaman". 2600:1700:37E0:F840:CD44:6178:81C0:1102 (talk) 17:09, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Antifa involvement

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Buffalo Man claims he has never been associated with Antifa, which is a lie.

He was arrested multiple time in AZ and NM for rioting with Antifa. He was a registered democrat also during these times. Seadansr (talk) 05:18, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable Sources are required EvergreenFir (talk) 05:21, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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