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== Semi-protected edit request on 17 February 2020 == |
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hi there i want to make some changes in the page so please help me |
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: You can suggest edits here on this talk page on the form "Please change X to Y" citing [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. – '''[[User:Þjarkur|Thjarkur]]''' [[User talk:Þjarkur|(talk)]] 13:01, 17 February 2020 (UTC) |
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== Should Malia have her own article? == |
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I'm trying to figure out if it's worth pursuing to create an article for her prior to it being taken down. Similar to how [[Tiffany Trump]] has her own article. What's the difference between Tiffany and Malia? What are your opinions and why? [[User:Factfanatic1|Factfanatic1]] ([[User talk:Factfanatic1|talk]]) 17:18, 26 July 2020 (UTC) |
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:{{u|Factfanatic1}}, try making a draft first and then we can see. [[User:Emir of Wikipedia|Emir of Wikipedia]] ([[User talk:Emir of Wikipedia|talk]]) 17:24, 26 July 2020 (UTC) |
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This could be a good idea eventually. If so you could use a template like this: |
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But you will need sourcing. [[User:WakandaQT|WakandaQT]] ([[User talk:WakandaQT|talk]]) 15:43, 26 October 2020 (UTC) |
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The Obama family page does not link to most individual pages. His mother in specific was the first I noticed. [[Ann Dunham]] |
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:Yes, it's pretty obvious that Malia at the very least has her own notable coverage (it's a very low bar, only two articles that are significant coverage of her individually). I'm not in the habit of making new articles though but yes, she would qualify. [[User:Macktheknifeau|Macktheknifeau]] ([[User talk:Macktheknifeau|talk]]) 03:54, 21 March 2021 (UTC) |
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::Considering that sunny and Bo have their own articles , Malia and Sasha should as well. [[User:Cakepops4everr|Cakepops4everr]] ([[User talk:Cakepops4everr|talk]]) 00:35, 2 June 2022 (UTC) |
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== Hussein Onyango torture claims == |
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Someone, please rectify this. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:2601:c6:4101:80ea:e88a:14ad:2b8d:6f99|2601:c6:4101:80ea:e88a:14ad:2b8d:6f99]] ([[User talk:2601:c6:4101:80ea:e88a:14ad:2b8d:6f99#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/2601:c6:4101:80ea:e88a:14ad:2b8d:6f99|contribs]]) 05:06, 27 January 2018 (UTC)</small> |
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:See the links in the infobox. It is standard procedure to not overlink. Please don't rant. [[User:Johnuniq|Johnuniq]] ([[User talk:Johnuniq|talk]]) 06:04, 27 January 2018 (UTC) |
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Claims that Hussein Onyango was tortured in 1949 have been disputed by some, including by David Maraniss in Barack Obama: The Story. The article should probably make mention of this. --[[User:Eldomtom2|Eldomtom2]] ([[User talk:Eldomtom2|talk]]) 22:50, 16 November 2020 (UTC) |
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Was Malik's photo of a Kenyan birth certificate for Barack ever forensically checked? |
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Why is the mention of Malik's claim left out of this article? |
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The article should be titled 'Barack Obama's Family'. If I knew how to propose renaming I would do so. That is all.[[User:Robbmonster|Robbmonster]] ([[User talk:Robbmonster|talk]]) 02:52, 30 November 2021 (UTC) |
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== Articles for Malia and Sasha? == |
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:Well every other [[First family of the United States]] is titled "Family of" so unless you propose changing them all it should remain the same [[User:Mighty Midas|Mighty Midas]] ([[User talk:Mighty Midas|talk]]) 16:49, 4 March 2022 (UTC) |
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== Punch vs. Dunham == |
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A discussion from some years ago about Barron Trump, Donald Trump's son, reaffirmed the old consensus that children of United States Presidents should not have articles unless they are notable independent of their parents, or at the very least until they have reached the age of majority. With this in mind, do we want to discuss creating stand-alone articles for Malia and Sasha? Malia is a legal adult and Sasha will be in less than a month. I'm not saying that because they have reached adulthood we should just "give" them Wikipedia articles, but on the condition that we can find sources and establish notability, should we take a look at the idea? [[User:The brave celery|The brave celery]] ([[User talk:The brave celery|talk]]) 17:53, 19 May 2019 (UTC) |
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:For my part, I don't see a reason to pursue it until something happens that makes independent notability unambiguous. At which point we'll undoubtedly be flooded with sources, so it won't be a tough call. No need to go hunting. [[User:Innisfree987|Innisfree987]] ([[User talk:Innisfree987|talk]]) 00:44, 20 May 2019 (UTC) |
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Brief comment - there is an inherent contradiction between citing John Punch as an ancestor of Obama, and writing that Dunham was his "first ancestor in north america". Dunham was born in 1640, according to the article - the same year Punch, who had already been in America, was sentenced to slavery after an attempted escape from indenture; he had already been an indenture for a few years prior to his failed escape, so he was therefore in the United States prior to Dunham. [[User:HiddenHistoryPedia|HiddenHistoryPedia]] ([[User talk:HiddenHistoryPedia|talk]]) 17:35, 23 September 2023 (UTC) |
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{{hat|No actionable request here. [[User:NorthBySouthBaranof|NorthBySouthBaranof]] ([[User talk:NorthBySouthBaranof|talk]]) 00:57, 25 September 2019 (UTC)}} |
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There should at least be a footnote about Frank Marshall Davis. He was the Presidents Mentor. Like a father to him according to "Dreams FROM my Father" by B Obama himself. Some even suggest that Davis is Barracks biological father. As is with the facts we know FMD player an imlortant enough role to be considered family. [[User:WikiaWorld13|WikiaWorld13]] ([[User talk:WikiaWorld13|talk]]) 21:55, 24 September 2019 (UTC) |
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hi there i want to make some changes in the page so please help me
- You can suggest edits here on this talk page on the form "Please change X to Y" citing reliable sources. – Thjarkur (talk) 13:01, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
Should Malia have her own article?
[edit]I'm trying to figure out if it's worth pursuing to create an article for her prior to it being taken down. Similar to how Tiffany Trump has her own article. What's the difference between Tiffany and Malia? What are your opinions and why? Factfanatic1 (talk) 17:18, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
- Factfanatic1, try making a draft first and then we can see. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:24, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
This could be a good idea eventually. If so you could use a template like this:
- 19 years, 11 months and 11 days
But you will need sourcing. WakandaQT (talk) 15:43, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, it's pretty obvious that Malia at the very least has her own notable coverage (it's a very low bar, only two articles that are significant coverage of her individually). I'm not in the habit of making new articles though but yes, she would qualify. Macktheknifeau (talk) 03:54, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
- Considering that sunny and Bo have their own articles , Malia and Sasha should as well. Cakepops4everr (talk) 00:35, 2 June 2022 (UTC)
Hussein Onyango torture claims
[edit]Claims that Hussein Onyango was tortured in 1949 have been disputed by some, including by David Maraniss in Barack Obama: The Story. The article should probably make mention of this. --Eldomtom2 (talk) 22:50, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
Passive voice
[edit]The article should be titled 'Barack Obama's Family'. If I knew how to propose renaming I would do so. That is all.Robbmonster (talk) 02:52, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
- Well every other First family of the United States is titled "Family of" so unless you propose changing them all it should remain the same Mighty Midas (talk) 16:49, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
Punch vs. Dunham
[edit]Brief comment - there is an inherent contradiction between citing John Punch as an ancestor of Obama, and writing that Dunham was his "first ancestor in north america". Dunham was born in 1640, according to the article - the same year Punch, who had already been in America, was sentenced to slavery after an attempted escape from indenture; he had already been an indenture for a few years prior to his failed escape, so he was therefore in the United States prior to Dunham. HiddenHistoryPedia (talk) 17:35, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
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