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First concert

Tickets for their November 27 and 28 concert sold in twenty minutes. The JAD article calls this their first concert, which would be in contradiction to the Wik text.^[1]

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^ Kim, Hannah. 2020. "Talk of the Town," JongAng Daily, October 21; p. 11.

Spelling of Jejung's name

This may have to go on the "Hero" page, but since there were edits recently about the member names... On Japanese albums, Jaejoong's spelled as Jejung (as seen on "The..."). This is the spelling used on the JYJ page. However, his name is spelled "Jaejung" on the group's international album (here). Should it be changed to that, since it's the spelling used in an English-language release? Should we pick a name be used for all articles related to Jaejoong? (For the purpose of consistency, I'd like to leave his name "Jejung" on articles related to music and note the different spellings on his own page. The problem is that each of the pages seems to use a different spelling.) Thoughts? - elycione ^{(talk|contribs)} 14:36, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Would this potential change apply to all members who have more than one "official" spelling? Why would you use the name "Jejung" on "articles related to music"? Seems like most articles that mention him would be related to music. As I currently understand it, the spelling Jejung is used on the JYJ page, the name Hero used on the TVXQ page and on his article, the different spellings are already clearly noted: Kim Jaejoong (born January 26, 1986), better known by his stage names, Hero, Youngwoong Jaejoong (in South Korea) and Jejung (ジェジュン, Jejun?) (in Japan). It would be more confusing to enforce a Japanese or Korean romanization throughout; it might seem as an attempt at creating a non-neutral point of view. on camera^(t) 02:19, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I feel that the members' original Korean romanized names should be used. It's already been duly noted that JYJ are known as Jejung/Yuchun/Junsu in Japan. But in the end, the members are all Korean, and in "Their Rooms" Jaejoong's name obviously isn't spelled as Jejung. Consistency should be maintained, and I vote for his name being spelled Jaejoong. Xaari (talk) 01:13, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The proper thing to do would probably be to go by whatever name each member's Wikipedia page lies at, and if those names happen to change in time, then references to them in that way should change. Well, except for the "Junsu/Jejung/Yuchun" moniker, which has an official spelling. --Prosperosity (talk) 05:10, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I wasn't very clear in the initial statement. The issue I'm trying to point out right now is that there are at least four ways in which Jaejoong is known - Hero, Jejung, Jaejung, and Jaejoong - and it's a little messy figuring out which name is to be used where (i.e. Hero internationally, Jejung in Japan, Jaejung in Korea, Jaejoong in America...). As for choosing "Jejung" over the rest, it was a biased suggestion that I'd like to retract; I'm most used to seeing that name since I own mainly the group's Japanese releases, but as oncamera pointed out, it would probably be seen as non-NPOV. - elycione ^{(talk|contribs)} 03:25, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Name of the group

I agree with Prosperosity: In Korea the name is just the three letters. See the Wik Korean page or , e.g., Naver: http://music.naver.com/artist/home.nhn?artistId=143596. Kdammers (talk) 10:57, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding suggestion to merge List of songs recorded by JYJ into JYJ

In my opinion, the article for songs recorded by JYJ isn't really necessary at all, because

(1) JYJ have only released two albums and two EPs (the songs of one of the two EPs are even included on the albums as well), so there's a relatively small number of songs

(2) all the songs are included and easy to find in the article JYJ discography

maybe merging List of songs recorded by JYJ into JYJ discography might be an option to consider
I wouldn't mind, however, if the List of songs recorded by JYJ was kept, I simply don't think it's necessary, because it doesn't include any information that doesn't already exist in another article, where it is easy to find

Pancakey-sshi 02:58, 4 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of some awards

I removed the non-notable fan-made awards. It hurt, too, because I love me some JYJ. Shinyang-i (talk) 04:13, 19 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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JYJ disbanded?

Recently the last 2 members of JYJ, Junsu and Jaejoong, released a song for a drama soundtrack. but it was named as a collaboration and not a JYJ song. On top of that JYJ's artist profile is no longer on C-JeS's website. Combined with the fact that their socials have remained inactive for years now, and only one member is left under C-JeS right now. would you consider JYJ disbanded at this point? - K-popguardian (talk) 21:26, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There would have to be an official statement as such, otherwise it's original research. Unless there's an article or source that goes over their inactivity as a group, we can't really be the ones to write the news here per WP:SYNTH. oncamera _{(talk page)} 22:07, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia has done this with other groups in the past though such as Speed, TheSeeya, MOBB, Jinusean, TRAX, and 1TYM. None of these groups had official disbanding statements but their labels have removed their pages and everything that shows they manage the artist. If CJ isn't showing JYJ on their website anywhere it means the artist is no longer under their label, and they're probably not making any statements about that either if they haven't already. - K-popguardian (talk) 01:12, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That's original research and shouldn't be happening on Wikipedia. oncamera _{(talk page)} 02:06, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Oncamera: So weather update: Junsu and Jaejoong are now promoting concerts under the name JX (source: https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20240906050559), performing their own solo songs as well as TVXQ songs, but only 1-2 JYJ songs on each setlist. These are the only two members left of the group but they're not promoting as JYJ or promoting much of JYJ's discography. Would we consider the group disbanded or change the page name to JX?

Also pinging people involved in past disbandment v hiatus discussions to contribute their opinions. @Paper9oll:, @Evaders99:, @Snowflake91:, @Alexanderlee: - K-popguardian (talk) 22:24, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Too soon to move this page to a new name. And it might not even be considered JYJ. JX should likely be its own article if they do activities (like release an album) outside of just concerts to celebrate their many years in the industry. oncamera _{(talk page)} 07:20, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It appears there's already been a JX page created prior to this discussion, so I marked this page as disbanded since again, Junsu and Jaejoong are the only remaining members but aren't promoting as JYJ anymore. - K-popguardian (talk) 07:41, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Kim, Hannah. 2020. "Talk of the Town," JongAng Daily, October 21; p. 11.

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 (For the purpose of consistency, I'd like to leave his name "Jejung" on articles related to music and note the different spellings on [[Hero (singer)|his own page]]. The problem is that each of the pages seems to use a different spelling.)
 Thoughts?
-<font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Mitsuki152| - elycione]]</font> <sup><span style="font-size:10px">([[User_talk:Mitsuki152|''talk'']]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/Mitsuki152|''contribs'']])</span></sup> 14:36, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
+<span style="font-family:Century Gothic;">[[User:Mitsuki152| - elycione]]</span> <sup><span style="font-size:10px">([[User_talk:Mitsuki152|''talk'']]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/Mitsuki152|''contribs'']])</span></sup> 14:36, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
 :Would this potential change apply to all members who have more than one "official" spelling?  Why would you use the name "Jejung" on "articles related to music"?  Seems like most articles that mention him would be related to music.  As I currently understand it, the spelling Jejung is used on the JYJ page, the name Hero used on the TVXQ page and on his article, the different spellings are already clearly noted: ''Kim Jaejoong (born January 26, 1986), better known by his stage names, Hero, Youngwoong Jaejoong (in South Korea) and Jejung (ジェジュン, Jejun?) (in Japan)''.  It would be more confusing to enforce a Japanese or Korean romanization throughout; it might seem as an attempt at creating a non-neutral point of view.  '''[[Special:Contributions/Oncamera|<span style="color:#B9B9B9; font-family:times;">on</span>]][[User:Oncamera|<span style="color:#DA8FC0; font-family:times;">camera</span>]]'''[[User talk:Oncamera|<sup style="color:#B9B9B9;">(t)</sup>]] 02:19, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
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 :The proper thing to do would probably be to go by whatever name each member's Wikipedia page lies at, and if those names happen to change in time, then references to them in that way should change. Well, except for the "Junsu/Jejung/Yuchun" moniker, which has an official spelling. --[[User:Prosperosity|Prosperosity]] ([[User talk:Prosperosity|talk]]) 05:10, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
-:::Sorry, I wasn't very clear in the initial statement. The issue I'm trying to point out right now is that there are at least four ways in which Jaejoong is known - Hero, Jejung, Jaejung, and Jaejoong - and it's a little messy figuring out which name is to be used where (i.e. Hero internationally, Jejung in Japan, Jaejung in Korea, Jaejoong in America...). As for choosing "Jejung" over the rest, it was a biased suggestion that I'd like to retract; I'm most used to seeing that name since I own mainly the group's Japanese releases, but as oncamera pointed out, it would probably be seen as non-NPOV. <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Mitsuki152| - elycione]]</font> <sup><span style="font-size:10px">([[User_talk:Mitsuki152|''talk'']]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/Mitsuki152|''contribs'']])</span></sup> 03:25, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
+:::Sorry, I wasn't very clear in the initial statement. The issue I'm trying to point out right now is that there are at least four ways in which Jaejoong is known - Hero, Jejung, Jaejung, and Jaejoong - and it's a little messy figuring out which name is to be used where (i.e. Hero internationally, Jejung in Japan, Jaejung in Korea, Jaejoong in America...). As for choosing "Jejung" over the rest, it was a biased suggestion that I'd like to retract; I'm most used to seeing that name since I own mainly the group's Japanese releases, but as oncamera pointed out, it would probably be seen as non-NPOV. <span style="font-family:Century Gothic;">[[User:Mitsuki152| - elycione]]</span> <sup><span style="font-size:10px">([[User_talk:Mitsuki152|''talk'']]&#124;[[Special:Contributions/Mitsuki152|''contribs'']])</span></sup> 03:25, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
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 ==JYJ disbanded?==
 Recently the last 2 members of JYJ, Junsu and Jaejoong, released a song for a drama soundtrack. but it was named as a collaboration and not a JYJ song. On top of that JYJ's artist profile is no longer on C-JeS's website. Combined with the fact that their socials have remained inactive for years now, and only one member is left under C-JeS right now. would you consider JYJ disbanded at this point? - [[User:K-popguardian|K-popguardian]] ([[User talk:K-popguardian|talk]]) 21:26, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
+:There would have to be an official statement as such, otherwise it's original research. Unless there's an article or source that goes over their inactivity as a group, we can't really be the ones to write the news here per [[WP:SYNTH]]. [[User:Oncamera|<span style="color:#e0e0e0; font-family:georgia; background:#785673; letter-spacing: 1px;">&nbsp;oncamera&nbsp;</span>]] <sub>[[User_Talk:Oncamera|<i style="color:#ad0076; font-family:georgia">(talk page)</i>]]</sub> 22:07, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
+Wikipedia has done this with other groups in the past though such as Speed, TheSeeya, MOBB, Jinusean, TRAX, and 1TYM. None of these groups had official disbanding statements but their labels have removed their pages and everything that shows they manage the artist. If CJ isn't showing JYJ on their website anywhere it means the artist is no longer under their label, and they're probably not making any statements about that either if they haven't already. - [[User:K-popguardian|K-popguardian]] ([[User talk:K-popguardian|talk]]) 01:12, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
+That's original research and shouldn't be happening on Wikipedia. [[User:Oncamera|<span style="color:#e0e0e0; font-family:georgia; background:#785673; letter-spacing: 1px;">&nbsp;oncamera&nbsp;</span>]] <sub>[[User_Talk:Oncamera|<i style="color:#ad0076; font-family:georgia">(talk page)</i>]]</sub> 02:06, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
+{{ping|Oncamera}} So weather update: Junsu and Jaejoong are now promoting concerts under the name JX (source: https://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20240906050559), performing their own solo songs as well as TVXQ songs, but only 1-2 JYJ songs on each setlist. These are the only two members left of the group but they're not promoting as JYJ or promoting much of JYJ's discography. Would we consider the group disbanded or change the page name to JX?
+Also pinging people involved in past disbandment v hiatus discussions to contribute their opinions. {{ping|Paper9oll}}, {{ping|Evaders99}}, {{ping|Snowflake91}}, {{ping|Alexanderlee}} - [[User:K-popguardian|K-popguardian]] ([[User talk:K-popguardian|talk]]) 22:24, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
+:Too soon to move this page to a new name. And it might not even be considered JYJ. JX should likely be its own article if they do activities (like release an album) outside of just concerts to celebrate their many years in the industry. [[User:Oncamera|<span style="color:#e0e0e0; font-family:georgia; background:#785673; letter-spacing: 1px;">&nbsp;oncamera&nbsp;</span>]] <sub>[[User_Talk:Oncamera|<i style="color:#ad0076; font-family:georgia">(talk page)</i>]]</sub> 07:20, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
+It appears there's already been a JX page created prior to this discussion, so I marked this page as disbanded since again, Junsu and Jaejoong are the only remaining members but aren't promoting as JYJ anymore. - [[User:K-popguardian|K-popguardian]] ([[User talk:K-popguardian|talk]]) 07:41, 17 November 2024 (UTC)