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*Influences: Millay, especially in Oliver's early work; James Wright, her mentor at Ohio State; Whitman; British Romantics (Blake, Wordsworth, Keats); perhaps May Swenson? |
*Influences: Millay, especially in Oliver's early work; James Wright, her mentor at Ohio State; Whitman; British Romantics (Blake, Wordsworth, Keats); perhaps May Swenson? |
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*Her development over time. Moving way away from tightly-structured poems toward prose poems? |
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:Get cracking, this article is super bare bones for someone so well loved, and so someone so good. Careful with the "influences". That can get you into speculation, and is pretty irrelevant imho. Anyways - go for it! [[Special:Contributions/184.69.174.194|184.69.174.194]] ([[User talk:184.69.174.194|talk]]) 04:41, 19 January 2019 (UTC) |
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About this whole article is plagerised from |
About this whole article is plagerised from |
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[http://www.poets.org/poet.php/prmPID/265] |
[http://www.poets.org/poet.php/prmPID/265] |
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::I "plagiarize" my spelling of the word "plagiarize" from the dictionary. I congratulate you on being more original.[[Special:Contributions/2600:8804:8800:11F:3055:68CC:F682:269C|2600:8804:8800:11F:3055:68CC:F682:269C]] ([[User talk:2600:8804:8800:11F:3055:68CC:F682:269C|talk]]) 23:56, 22 January 2022 (UTC)Christopher Lawrence Simpson |
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::The plagiarism accusation doesn't seem to have been true on 13 June 2007, when the it was made, at least going from the 5th June version at [https://web.archive.org/web/20070605231001/http://www.poets.org/poet.php/prmPID/265]. [[User:Latrissium|Latrissium]] ([[User talk:Latrissium|talk]]) 09:18, 10 February 2022 (UTC) |
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Was this article written by Mary Oliver? There are many effusive praises of Mary Oliver, which do little to improve our understanding of her work, and not a single criticism. Something more balanced would be nice. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/216.221.67.157|216.221.67.157]] ([[User talk:216.221.67.157|talk]]) 00:22, 20 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
Was this article written by Mary Oliver? There are many effusive praises of Mary Oliver, which do little to improve our understanding of her work, and not a single criticism. Something more balanced would be nice. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/216.221.67.157|216.221.67.157]] ([[User talk:216.221.67.157|talk]]) 00:22, 20 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:God no, are you kidding? People just like her work. Please, don't belittle someone with speculation like that. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/184.69.174.194|184.69.174.194]] ([[User talk:184.69.174.194#top|talk]]) 04:43, 19 January 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Questionable sentence == |
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She had a what?? WP isn't supposed to be about rumours and euphemisms, people. Let's spell it out and give it a source. [[User:Flapdragon|Flapdragon]] ([[User talk:Flapdragon|talk]]) 08:26, 21 April 2009 (UTC) |
She had a what?? WP isn't supposed to be about rumours and euphemisms, people. Let's spell it out and give it a source. [[User:Flapdragon|Flapdragon]] ([[User talk:Flapdragon|talk]]) 08:26, 21 April 2009 (UTC) |
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== Repeated material == |
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This paragraph shows up twice. It should be removed from Early Live, I think: "Oliver and Cook, her partner of forty years and literary agent, made their home together, largely in Provincetown, Massachusetts, where they lived until Cook's death in 2005, and where Oliver still lives. [5]Greatly valuing her personal privacy, Oliver has given very few interviews, saying she prefers for her writing to speak for itself." |
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== Feminist? == |
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''Although she was criticized for writing poetry that assumes a dangerously close relationship between women and nature...'' |
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:That sounds like the view from the feminist lobby. But there is no mention of her claiming to be a feminist, only a lesbian. [[User:Valetude|Valetude]] ([[User talk:Valetude|talk]]) 22:53, 14 September 2020 (UTC) |
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Why does her name appear above the photo as "Mary Jane Oliver Rose"? The article doesn't contain an explanation for that. Is "Rose" the name of the shellfish she is holding?[[Special:Contributions/2600:8804:8800:11F:3055:68CC:F682:269C|2600:8804:8800:11F:3055:68CC:F682:269C]] ([[User talk:2600:8804:8800:11F:3055:68CC:F682:269C|talk]]) 23:56, 22 January 2022 (UTC)Christopher Lawrence Simpson |
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Things I'd like to add:
[edit]- Influences: Millay, especially in Oliver's early work; James Wright, her mentor at Ohio State; Whitman; British Romantics (Blake, Wordsworth, Keats); perhaps May Swenson?
- Her development over time. Moving way away from tightly-structured poems toward prose poems?
- Discussion of Oliver's popular appeal (rare for a "critically-acclaimed" poet). This would be a good place to address the common criticism that her language is simplistic and repetitive. Does she deliberately make her work accessible?
- How she approaches nature: joyful without being sentimental/naive
- "Non-nature" themes: eg, her father, Buddhism, the Holocaust
- Oliver's own scholarly interests
- Quotations, of course, in support of topics above
- A photograph of Oliver, and perhaps of the Provincetown wetlands
amysayrawr 16:36, May 4, 2005 (UTC)
- Get cracking, this article is super bare bones for someone so well loved, and so someone so good. Careful with the "influences". That can get you into speculation, and is pretty irrelevant imho. Anyways - go for it! 184.69.174.194 (talk) 04:41, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
Quote
[edit]Which book is it out of: "Is the soul solid, like iron? Or is it tender and breakable, like the wings of a moth or the beak of an owl?" (because I would like to place one or two quotes in the article). Thanks, Scriberius 06:21, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Plagerism
[edit]About this whole article is plagerised from [1]
- I "plagiarize" my spelling of the word "plagiarize" from the dictionary. I congratulate you on being more original.2600:8804:8800:11F:3055:68CC:F682:269C (talk) 23:56, 22 January 2022 (UTC)Christopher Lawrence Simpson
- The plagiarism accusation doesn't seem to have been true on 13 June 2007, when the it was made, at least going from the 5th June version at [2]. Latrissium (talk) 09:18, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
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Objectivity
[edit]Was this article written by Mary Oliver? There are many effusive praises of Mary Oliver, which do little to improve our understanding of her work, and not a single criticism. Something more balanced would be nice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.221.67.157 (talk) 00:22, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- God no, are you kidding? People just like her work. Please, don't belittle someone with speculation like that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.69.174.194 (talk) 04:43, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
Questionable sentence
[edit]"It is rumored that during this time she had a questionable relationship with Sarah Whittier."
She had a what?? WP isn't supposed to be about rumours and euphemisms, people. Let's spell it out and give it a source. Flapdragon (talk) 08:26, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Repeated material
[edit]This paragraph shows up twice. It should be removed from Early Live, I think: "Oliver and Cook, her partner of forty years and literary agent, made their home together, largely in Provincetown, Massachusetts, where they lived until Cook's death in 2005, and where Oliver still lives. [5]Greatly valuing her personal privacy, Oliver has given very few interviews, saying she prefers for her writing to speak for itself." Cgmusselman (talk) 16:53, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks Span (talk) 21:58, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
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Feminist?
[edit]Although she was criticized for writing poetry that assumes a dangerously close relationship between women and nature...
- That sounds like the view from the feminist lobby. But there is no mention of her claiming to be a feminist, only a lesbian. Valetude (talk) 22:53, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]Why does her name appear above the photo as "Mary Jane Oliver Rose"? The article doesn't contain an explanation for that. Is "Rose" the name of the shellfish she is holding?2600:8804:8800:11F:3055:68CC:F682:269C (talk) 23:56, 22 January 2022 (UTC)Christopher Lawrence Simpson
- It was vandalism, added February 2021, but only partially reverted. [3] Latrissium (talk) 09:36, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
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