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{{Infobox album |
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| name = Hot Dogma |
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{{Infobox album <!-- See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Albums --> |
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| type = [[Album]] |
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| artist = [[TISM]] |
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| cover = hotdogma.jpg |
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| alt = |
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| released = 1 October 1990 |
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| recorded = 1989, April–July 1990 |
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|Recorded = April–July 1990, Platinum Studios<br>"I'll 'Ave Ya" and "I Don't Want TISM" recorded at Sing Sing Studios, 1989 |
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| studio = Platinum Studios, Sing Sing Studios |
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|Length = 50:38<br>70:41 (CD/MC versions) |
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| genre = [[Alternative rock]] |
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| length = 50:38<br>70:41 (CD/MC versions) |
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|Producer = Peter Blyton and Laurence Maddy |
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| label = [[Phonogram Records|Phonogram]]/[[PolyGram]] |
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|Reviews = |
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| producer = Peter Blyton and Laurence Maddy |
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|Last album = ''[[Great Truckin' Songs of the Renaissance]]''<br />(1988) |
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| prev_title = [[Great Truckin' Songs of the Renaissance]] |
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|This album = '''''Hot Dogma''''' <br /> (1990) |
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| prev_year = 1988 |
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|Next album = ''[[Gentlemen, Start Your Egos]]''<br />(1991) |
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| next_title = [[Gentlemen, Start Your Egos]] |
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| next_year = 1991 |
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| misc = {{Singles |
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| name = Hot Dogma |
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| type = studio |
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| single1 = I Don't Want TISM, I Want a Girlfriend |
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| single1date = 11 December 1989 |
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| single2 = The History of Western Civilisation |
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| single2date = 17 September 1990 |
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| single3 = Let's Form a Company |
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| single3date = 25 February 1991 |
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'''''Hot Dogma''''' |
'''''Hot Dogma''''' is the second studio album by the Australian [[alternative rock]] band [[TISM]]. It was released on 1 October 1990 and peaked at number 86 on the [[ARIA Charts]]. The title comes from a joining of the two phrases [[hot dog]], a food, and [[dogma]], a specific religious belief.{{citation needed|date=June 2021}} An additional disc, '''''Hot Dogma - The Interview Disc''''' was added to initial sales copies and contains live responses by TISM to an unheard DJ’s questions. |
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On 18 November 2024, the album was reissued on CD and (for the first time) double LP, containing the full 24-song tracklist. |
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==Acceptance== |
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Due to its large amounts of tracks, recurring themes between tracks, and the culmination of TISM's rock period occurring on the album, it is said by some to be the best TISM album although many argue that their breakthrough 1995 release ''[[Machiavelli and the Four Seasons]]'' is their best. |
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==Reception== |
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Originally released on vinyl in 1990, the later released CD and cassette versions had more tracks than the original LP version. The version released in ''[[Collected Recordings 1986-1993]]'' (1995) had fewer tracks than any previous. |
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In a review of TISM’s sixth studio album ''[[The White Albun]]'', Anton S Trees of ''FasterLouder'' compared it to ''Hot Dogma'', where the latter is "filled with moments of introspection and reflection on the nature of self, existence and mortality – TISM examine the value of life. Most prominent amongst the examinations of mortality and the cyclical nature of existence is 'Life Kills'."<ref name="Trees">{{cite web | url = http://fasterlouder.junkee.com/tism-the-white-albun/771280 | archive-url = https://web.archive.org/web/20151019095334/http://fasterlouder.junkee.com/tism-the-white-albun/771280 | url-status = dead | archive-date = 19 October 2015 | title = TISM – ''The White Albun'' | last = Trees | first = Anton S | work = FasterLouder | date = 30 June 2004 | accessdate = 21 July 2016 }}</ref> |
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Steve Bell of ''theMusic.com.au'' website noticed it "quickly became a fan favourite but didn't set the world on fire commercially nor bother the charts, so TISM were soon unceremoniously dumped by Phonogram during 1991 and found themselves homeless."<ref name="Bell">{{cite web | url = http://themusic.com.au/opinion/music/2015/05/01/20-years-ago-tism-machiavelli-and-the-four-seasons-steve-bell/ | title = 20 Years Ago: How TISM's Third Album Helped Them Break Through, Despite Their Best Efforts | last = Bell | first = Steve | work = theMusic.com.au | date = 1 May 2015 | accessdate = 21 July 2016 }}</ref> |
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The varying track listings is due to TISM not liking the album. Humphrey B. Flaubert stated "No, no, I didn’t like Hot Dogma. I wince when I hear it", continuing that "it did have some good lyrics on it. I just hated the quintessentially 1980s music on it. I’ve always thought that TISM has always been unfashionably – to our own detriment at times – sort of not sounding like anyone else. And sometimes that sort of sheer dagginess... that album... because...." [http://www.fasterlouder.com.au/public/TISM_Full_Transcript.pdf] |
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Not finishing the thought, the conclusion was later drawn that guitarist at the time, Leek Van Vlalen, was to blame for the sound of the album as, according to Ron Hitler-Barassi, "he was making us look bad". |
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"ExistentialTISM" and "Get Thee in My Behind, Satan" were played live as early as 1988 - a live version of the former appears on the band's live VHS ''Shoddy and Poor'' the year earlier, while a version of the latter was released as an iTunes bonus track for the band's previous album, ''Great Truckin' Songs of the Renaissance'', in 2009. "The TISM Boat Hire Offer" was played live in Queensland in 1989 and appears on a bootleg of the performance. ''Pus of the Dead'' was first recorded in December 1982 for the band's unreleased tape ''Great Truckin' Songs of the Renaissance'', however a different version appears on the band's self-titled demo tape in 1985. "I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and Whittle Away My Furniture" was recorded in 1985 for the tape ''Muggy Climates in My Jockettes'' - that version appears on the bonus demo disc included with the group's greatest hits album ''Best Off'' in 2002. Most of the other songs appear on two tapes, ''Free Nelson Mandela - With Every Record'' and ''Three Blake and a Dollar's Worth of Chips - A Song of Innocence and Experience'', recorded throughout 1988. |
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The title of "It's Novel, It's Unique, It's Shithouse" had been used as a slogan by the band, first appearing as the name of an unreleased demo tape recorded in September 1983, followed by appearing in the runout groove of the group's debut album ''[[Form and Meaning Reach Ultimate Communion]]'' and (translated into French and Italian) the liner notes of ''[[Great Truckin' Songs of the Renaissance]]''. The song itself was written in 1988. |
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In a review of ''The White Album'', Anton S Trees of ''FasterLouder'' compared it to ''Hot Dogma'', where the latter is "filled with moments of introspection and reflection on the nature of self, existence and mortality – TISM examine the value of life. Most prominent amongst the examinations of mortality and the cyclical nature of existence is 'Life Kills'."<ref name="Trees">{{cite web | url = http://fasterlouder.junkee.com/tism-the-white-albun/771280 | title = TISM – ''The White Albun'' | last = Trees | first = Anton S | work = FasterLouder | publisher = [[Junkee Media]] | date = 30 June 2004 | accessdate = 21 July 2016 }}</ref> Steve Bell of ''theMusic.com.au'' website noticed it "quickly became a fan favourite but didn’t set the world on fire commercially nor bother the charts, so TISM were soon unceremoniously dumped by Phonogram during 1991 and found themselves homeless."<ref name="Bell">{{cite web | url = http://themusic.com.au/opinion/music/2015/05/01/20-years-ago-tism-machiavelli-and-the-four-seasons-steve-bell/ | title = 20 Years Ago: How TISM's Third Album Helped Them Break Through, Despite Their Best Efforts | last = Bell | first = Steve | work = theMusic.com.au | date = 1 May 2015 | accessdate = 21 July 2016 }}</ref> |
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==Cover and liner notes== |
==Cover and liner notes== |
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The cover of the album features what appear to be Chinese [[Red Guards (China)|Red Guards]] carrying a large banner with |
The cover of the album features what appear to be Chinese [[Red Guards (China)|Red Guards]] carrying a large banner with “TISM” written across it and carrying what, on first look, appears to be [[Mao Zedong]]'s ''[[Quotations From Chairman Mao Zedong|Little Red Book]]'', but is on closer inspection ''[[The TISM Guide To Little Aesthetics]]''. The artwork closely resembled posters of the time of Mao's reign.{{citation needed|date=June 2021}} |
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The Chinese on the cover translates into "The unification of the proletariat under the banner of TISM"<!-- original text: "United under the great red flag of" The text was translated by a Cantonese speaker to: "The unification of the proletariat under the banner of tee sum" - the last two characters made no sense but made the correct sound-->. |
The Chinese on the cover ({{lang-zh|s=无产阶级革命派在迪思想的伟大红旗下联合起来!}}) translates into "The unification of the proletariat under the banner of TISM"<!-- original text: "United under the great red flag of" The text was translated by a Cantonese speaker to: "The unification of the proletariat under the banner of tee sum" - the last two characters made no sense but made the correct sound-->.{{citation needed|date=June 2021}} |
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The back cover of the album has the track lists in Chinese, however the band have repeatedly claimed that the Asian division of Polygram released a version with the track titles in English.<ref name="AMO Hot">{{cite web | archiveurl = https://webarchive.nla.gov.au/awa/20051121130000/http://pandora.nla.gov.au/pan/44131/20051122-0000/www.amo.org.au/release7b57.html | url = http://www.amo.org.au/release7b57.html | title = Releases :: ''Hot Dogma'' | publisher = [[Australian Music Online]] | archivedate = 21 November 2005 | accessdate = 21 July 2016 }}{{cbignore|bot=medic}}</ref> The titles are listed in English in the liner notes. |
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An alternative cover was intended to be used when Phonogram re-released the album on 13 December 1993 however, the original cover was used and the alternate artwork was not used for another two years when the album would be re-released again in the ''[[Collected Recordings 1986-1993|Collected Recordings]]'' box set. |
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On the original 1990 CD release, the Chinese text wrapped around the cover art, as on the LP, but the 2024 reissue placed the entire text on the front of the digipak. The original LP release featured an inner sleeve with the liner notes, however this was changed to a gatefold sleeve on the reissue, with it instead containing inner sleeves with full lyrics to the album. |
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The back cover of the album has the track lists in Chinese, however TISM have repeatedly claimed that the Asian division of Polygram released a version with the track titles in English.<ref name="AMO Hot">{{cite web | archiveurl = http://pandora.nla.gov.au/pan/44131/20051122-0000/www.amo.org.au/release7b57.html | url = http://www.amo.org.au/release7b57.html | title = Releases :: ''Hot Dogma'' | last = | first = | work = | publisher = [[Australian Music Online]] | archivedate = 22 November 2005 | accessdate = 21 July 2016 }}</ref> The titles are listed in English in the booklet (CD)/inner bag (LP)/tape insert (MC), however. |
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==Track listings== |
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In one of TISM's many references to [[Australian Football League]] football, the liner notes, which chronicle the rise, fall and disbanding of TISM, and the band members individual exploits around the world, were credited to [[Ted Whitten|E.J. Whitten]], argued by some to be the greatest AFL player of all time; a picture of Whitten appeared on the cover of the EP ''[[Gentlemen, Start Your Egos]]'' (1991). |
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===Original LP version=== |
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{{track listing |
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==''Hot Dogma - The Interview Disc''== |
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| headline = Synopsis: Act One |
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{{Infobox album <!-- See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Albums --> |
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| Name = Hot Dogma - The Interview Disc |
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| Type = live |
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| Longtype = (interview) |
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| Artist = [[TISM]] |
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| Cover = |
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| Released = 1990 |
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| Genre = [[Spoken word]] |
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| Length = 2:22 |
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| Label = PolyGram |
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| Producer = TISM |
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| Reviews = |
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| Last album = ''[[Great Truckin' Songs of the Renaissance]]''<br>(1988) |
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| This album = '''''Hot Dogma'''''<br>(1990) (bonus disc) |
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| Next album = ''[[Machiavelli and the Four Seasons]]'' (1995) |
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}} |
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''Hot Dogma - The Interview Disc'' is a related 7" record by TISM, it was given away to customers who bought initial copies of ''Hot Dogma''. This record contains an interview with TISM and blank spaces for a DJ to insert the questions, only the answers to the questions are heard. Both sides contain the same interview. |
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=== Questions === |
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* Your new album is on PolyGram, will you change now that you're signed to a major label? |
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* How did you guys come to be in a band? |
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* Why don't you ever show your face? |
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* Your live shows have a reputation for being pretty wild affairs. Do you deliberately set out to work up your audience? |
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* What kind of people come to your shows? |
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* Your new album "Hot Dogma" is pretty amazing - over an hour of music, all kinds of different styles; what can you tell us about it? |
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* OK, so you obviously prefer not to give much away in interviews. Why is that? |
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* I am a self-respecting DJ... |
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* I do think I have a feel for what's going down... |
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* I do have a certain duty towards my audience... |
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* YES! |
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==After ''Hot Dogma''== |
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Six months later, due to TISM's extravagant nature for live show demands and other incidental requests, [[PolyGram]] fired TISM due to the band amounting thousands of dollars in debt. |
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TISM signed to [[Shock Records]] soon after, who bought and re-released TISM's back catalogue. ''Hot Dogma'' was not re-released, although it was re-released by Polygram in 1993. It was also left out of the re-release by [[Festival Mushroom Records]] in 2001. A cut-down 14 track version was released by Shock as part of the ''[[Collected Recordings 1986-1993]]'' box set, with 8 bonus tracks. |
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In 2012, Sydney band Vanguard Party covered "It's Novel! It's Unique! It's Shithouse!". |
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==Track listing== |
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===LP version=== |
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{{tracklist |
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|headline=Synopsis: Act One |
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| title1 = The TISM Boat Hire Offer |
| title1 = The TISM Boat Hire Offer |
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| length1 = 2:54 |
| length1 = 2:54 |
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| title2 |
| title2 = ExistentialTISM |
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| length2 = 3:31 |
| length2 = 3:31 |
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| title3 = While My Catarrh Gently Weeps |
| title3 = While My Catarrh Gently Weeps |
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| length3 = 5:18 |
| length3 = 5:18 |
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| title4 |
| title4 = They Shoot Heroin, Don't They? |
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| length4 = 2:49 |
| length4 = 2:49 |
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| title5 |
| title5 = Kevin Borich Expressionism Part 1 |
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| length5 = 0:23 |
| length5 = 0:23 |
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| title6 = Whinge Rock |
| title6 = Whinge Rock |
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| length6 = 2:34 |
| length6 = 2:34 |
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| title7 |
| title7 = (I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and) Whittle Away My Furniture |
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| length7 = 2:13 |
| length7 = 2:13 |
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| title8 = The TISM Finance Plan Offer |
| title8 = The TISM Finance Plan Offer |
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| length8 = 2:29 |
| length8 = 2:29 |
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| title9 |
| title9 = Leo's Toltoy |
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| length9 = 4:04 |
| length9 = 4:04 |
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{{track listing |
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{{tracklist |
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|headline=Synopsis: Act Two |
| headline = Synopsis: Act Two |
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| title10 |
| title10 = The History of Western Civilisation |
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| length10 = 3:00 |
| length10 = 3:00 |
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| title11 = Kevin Borich Expressionism Part 2 |
| title11 = Kevin Borich Expressionism Part 2 |
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| length11 = 0:22 |
| length11 = 0:22 |
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| title12 |
| title12 = My Generation |
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| length12 = 4:06 |
| length12 = 4:06 |
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| title13 = Kevin Borich Expressionism Part 4 |
| title13 = Kevin Borich Expressionism Part 4 |
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| length13 = 0:25 |
| length13 = 0:25 |
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| title14 |
| title14 = Let's Club It to Death |
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| length14 = 2:46 |
| length14 = 2:46 |
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| title15 |
| title15 = Let's Form a Company |
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| length15 = 4:07 |
| length15 = 4:07 |
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| title16 = Life Kills |
| title16 = Life Kills |
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| length16 = 5:53 |
| length16 = 5:53 |
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| title17 = Pus |
| title17 = Pus of the Dead |
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| length17 = 2:31 |
| length17 = 2:31 |
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| title18 = It's Novel! It's Unique!! It's Shithouse!!! |
| title18 = It's Novel! It's Unique!! It's Shithouse!!! |
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===CD and |
===CD, cassette and reissue LP versions=== |
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{{track listing |
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{{tracklist |
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|headline=Synopsis: Act One |
| headline = Synopsis: Act One |
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| title1 = The TISM Boat Hire Offer |
| title1 = The TISM Boat Hire Offer |
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| length1 = 2:54 |
| length1 = 2:54 |
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| title3 = While My Catarrh Gently Weeps |
| title3 = While My Catarrh Gently Weeps |
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| length3 = 5:18 |
| length3 = 5:18 |
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| title4 = They Shoot Heroin, |
| title4 = They Shoot Heroin, Don't They? |
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| length4 = 2:49 |
| length4 = 2:49 |
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| title5 = Dazed And Confucious |
| title5 = Dazed And Confucious |
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| title6 = Kevin Borich Expressionism Part 1 |
| title6 = Kevin Borich Expressionism Part 1 |
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| length6 = 0:23 |
| length6 = 0:23 |
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| title7 = |
| title7 = I'll 'Ave Ya |
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| length7 = 2:14 |
| length7 = 2:14 |
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| title8 = Whinge Rock |
| title8 = Whinge Rock |
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| title9 = The TISM Nightsoil Cart And Horse Blues |
| title9 = The TISM Nightsoil Cart And Horse Blues |
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| length9 = 2:53 |
| length9 = 2:53 |
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| title10 = |
| title10 = I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and Whittle Away My Furniture |
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| length10 = 2:13 |
| length10 = 2:13 |
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| title11 = The TISM Finance Plan Offer |
| title11 = The TISM Finance Plan Offer |
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| length11 = 2:29 |
| length11 = 2:29 |
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| title12 = |
| title12 = Leo's Toltoy |
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| length12 = 4:04 |
| length12 = 4:04 |
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{{track listing |
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{{tracklist |
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|headline=Synopsis: Act Two |
| headline = Synopsis: Act Two |
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| title13 = The History of Western Civilisation |
| title13 = The History of Western Civilisation |
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| length13 = 3:00 |
| length13 = 3:00 |
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| title15 = My Generation |
| title15 = My Generation |
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| length15 = 3:20 |
| length15 = 3:20 |
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| title16 = |
| title16 = I Don't Want TISM, I Want a Girlfriend |
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| length16 = 4:06 |
| length16 = 4:06 |
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| title17 = Kevin Borich Expressionism Part 4 |
| title17 = Kevin Borich Expressionism Part 4 |
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| title19 = We Are the Champignons |
| title19 = We Are the Champignons |
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| length19 = 2:13 |
| length19 = 2:13 |
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| title20 = |
| title20 = Let's Club It to Death |
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| length20 = 2:46 |
| length20 = 2:46 |
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| title21 = Let's Form a Company |
| title21 = Let's Form a Company |
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| title22 = Life Kills |
| title22 = Life Kills |
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| length22 = 3:35 |
| length22 = 3:35 |
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| note23 = unlisted Life Kills/Pus of the Dead segue |
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| length23 = 2:15 |
| length23 = 2:15 |
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| title24 = Pus of the Dead |
| title24 = Pus of the Dead |
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|headline=Digital bonus tracks (2009) |
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|title26=The Ball That Doesn't Turn, but Goes Straight on with the Arm |
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|headline=iTunes bonus tracks |
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|title26=The Ball that Doesn't Turn, but Goes Straight On with the Arm |
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|length26=1:44 |
|length26=1:44 |
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|title27=The TISM Finance Plan Offer |
|title27=The TISM Finance Plan Offer |
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|length27=2:46 |
|length27=2:46 |
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|note27= |
|note27=from the rehearsal tapes |
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|title28=Put Your Dog to Sleep |
|title28=Put Your Dog to Sleep |
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|note28= |
|note28=from the rehearsal tapes |
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|length28=3:16 |
|length28=3:16 |
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|title29=Naked Movie Star |
|title29=Naked Movie Star |
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|length29=2:36 |
|length29=2:36 |
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|title30=I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and Whittle Away My Furniture |
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|length30=2:10 |
|length30=2:10 |
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|note30= |
|note30=from the rehearsal tapes |
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The unlisted segue and "Life Kills" are indexed as one 5:52-long track on the iTunes and Spotify releases. |
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===''Hot Dogma – The Interview Disc''=== |
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== Demo tapes == |
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LP copies of ''Hot Dogma'' were bundled with a pack-in 7" single, containing a humorous open-ended interview with TISM and blank spaces for a DJ to insert the questions. Both sides contain the same interview. |
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{{Infobox album <!-- See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Albums --> |
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|Name = Free Nelson Mandela - With Every Record |
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==== Questions ==== |
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|Type = Demo |
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* "Your new album is on PolyGram, will you change now that you're signed to a major label?" |
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|Artist = [[TISM]] |
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* "How did you guys come to be in a band?" |
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|Cover = |
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* "Why don't you ever show your face?" |
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|Released = |
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* "Your live shows have a reputation for being pretty wild affairs. Do you deliberately set out to work up your audience?" |
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|Recorded = March–November 1988 |
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* "What kind of people come to your shows?" |
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|Genre = [[Alternative rock]] |
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* "Your new album ''Hot Dogma'' is pretty amazing - over an hour of music, all kinds of different styles; what can you tell us about it?" |
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|Length = |
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* "OK, so you obviously prefer not to give much away in interviews. Why is that?" |
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* "I am a self-respecting DJ..." |
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* "I do think I have a feel for what's going down..." |
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* "I do have a certain duty towards my audience..." |
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* "YES!" |
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The last four tracks on the disc are questions from TISM to the DJ. |
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== ''Hot Dogma (Sing Sing Sessions)'' == |
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{{Infobox album |
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| name = Hot Dogma (Sing Sing Sessions) |
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| type = Demo |
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| artist = [[TISM]] |
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| cover = |
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| alt = |
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| released = 18 August 2023 |
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| recorded = 17–18 March 1990 |
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| venue = |
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| studio = Sing Sing Studios |
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| genre = [[Alternative rock]] |
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| length = 76:27 |
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| label = [[genre b.goode]] |
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| producer = TISM |
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}} |
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On 17 and 18 March 1990, TISM recorded demos for what eventually became ''Hot Dogma'' at Sing Sing Studios. Six tracks from the session were released in 1995 on ''[[Collected Recordings 1986-1993]]'', while the whole set of demos was eventually released on 18 August 2023, as part of the ongoing reissue campaign of TISM's discography, and hit #14 on the ARIA Australian Artist charts.<ref>{{cite web | url=https://www.aria.com.au/charts/australian-artist-albums-chart/2023-08-28 | title=ARIA Top 20 Australian Albums Chart }}</ref> |
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{{Infobox album <!-- See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Albums --> |
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|Name = Three Blake and a Dollar's Worth of Chips - A Song of Innocence and Experience |
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|Type = Demo |
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|Artist = [[TISM]] |
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|Cover = |
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|Released = |
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|Recorded = December 1988 |
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|Genre = [[Alternative rock]] |
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|Length = |
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Between March and December 1988, TISM recorded two tapes from which the bulk of ''Hot Dogma'' would be drawn, '''''Free Nelson Mandela - With Every Record''''' and '''''Three Blake and a Dollar's Worth of Chips - A Song of Innocence and Experience'''''. |
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Notable inclusions are the first known studio recording of "Opium is the Religion of the Masses", a song previously only known from live recordings from the ''[[Great Truckin' Songs of the Renaissance]]'' era, and "Greece is Still Greece", which provided the backing music for the album version of "The TISM Finance Plan Offer", as well as "Too Cool for School, Too Stupid for Life", a song that had been performed several times by TISM in 1989 but never used on an album. |
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=== ''Free Nelson Mandela - With Every Record'' === |
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=== Tracklist === |
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# Life Kills |
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# Mark E. Smith at the Discothèque |
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# Wham Bam Thank You Imam* |
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# I'll 'Ave Ya |
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# ExistentialTISM |
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# I Don't Want TISM, I Want a Girlfriend |
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# Greece is Still Greece |
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# Koori Punks Fuck Off |
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# The TISM Finance Plan Offer* |
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# Throw Your Drugs Away And Find A Fiancé |
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# Let's Form a Company |
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# You Think I'm a Shining Wit, But Really I'm a Whining Shit* |
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# Opium is the Religion of the Masses |
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# Put Your Dog to Sleep* |
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# The Ball That Doesn't Turn, but Goes Straight On With the Arm |
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# (I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and) Whittle Away My Furniture |
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# My Generation |
# My Generation |
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# Dazed and Confucius |
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# Brian Wilson |
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# Naked Movie Star |
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# In Defence of Poetry* |
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# The TISM Nightsoil Cart and Horse Blues |
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# While My Catarrh Gently Weeps |
# While My Catarrh Gently Weeps |
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# Too Cool for School / All You Don't Know and All You Don't Need to Know |
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# Get Thee in My Behind, Satan |
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# The Law of Repulsion After Orgasm* |
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# They Shoot Heroin, Don't They? |
# They Shoot Heroin, Don't They? |
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# Let's Club It to Death |
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# The Law of Repulsion after Orgasm |
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# We Are the Champignons |
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# Robert Dipierdomenico Parts 1, 2 & 3 |
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# Kevin Borich Expressionism* |
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# It's Novel! It's Unique! It's Shithouse! |
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# The TISM Boat Hire Offer |
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# Nunga Rock |
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# It's Alright |
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# Dishonourable Discharge |
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# Whinge Rock |
# Whinge Rock |
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# Life Kills |
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# Stop the World, I Wanna Get On |
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# Minimalism 7 |
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# Minimalism 8 |
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* This song would later be retitled "Bishop = Handjob" and recorded for the band's LP ''The Beasts of Suburban'' in 1992. |
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* previously released |
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=== ''Three Blake and a Dollar's Worth of Chips - A Song of Innocence and Experience'' === |
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# Rabid |
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==Charts== |
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# The Law of Repulsion after Orgasm |
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# I Feel Guilty Because I'm Famous |
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# Supercalafragilisticexpihalitosis |
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! Chart (1990) |
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# Let's Form a Company |
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! Peak<br /> position |
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# Minimalism 9 |
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# I'd Trust the Boys from Harem Scarem |
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! scope="row"| Australian Albums ([[ARIA Charts|ARIA]])<ref>{{cite book|last=Ryan|first=Gavin|title=Australia's Music Charts 1988–2010|year=2011|publisher=Moonlight Publishing|location=Mt. Martha, VIC, Australia|page=282}}</ref> |
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# The TISM Nightsoil Cart and Horse Blues |
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| 86 |
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# Each Man Kills the Thing He Roots Via Rear Entry |
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# Rosebud (Or Some Other Enigmatic Shit) |
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# The TISM Boat Hire Offer |
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==Release history== |
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# The House of the Jiggling Bag |
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{| class="wikitable plainrowheaders" |
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# If They're Different, Punch* |
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|+Release history and formats for ''Hot Dogma'' |
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# I Hope I Get Old Before I Die |
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!scope="col"|Region |
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# Minimalism 10 |
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!scope="col"|Date |
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# Money Doesn't Matter |
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# Rehearsal/Neighbours |
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!scope="col"|Edition |
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# Let's Club It to Death |
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!scope="col"|Label |
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# That Was Is, This is Then |
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# Minimalism 10 Part 2 & 17 |
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# Stop the World, I Wanna Get On |
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# The TISM Finance Plan Offer |
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| October 1990 |
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* A variation of the phrase appears in the song "[[Yob (song)|Yob]]", from ''www.tism.wanker.com'' |
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*[[Compact disc|CD]] |
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*[[Compact Cassette|Cassette]] |
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| Standard |
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|rowspan="2"| [[Phonogram Records]] |
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| Catalogue| 846901-1/ 846901-2/ 846901-4 |
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| 1994 |
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| Catalogue| 846 901-2 |
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| October 2009 |
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| Label| Genre B.Goode |
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| Catalogue {{n/a}} |
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==References== |
==References== |
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==External links== |
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* [http://www.tism.com.au/lyrics/hotdogma.html TISM.com.au], Hot Dogma Lyrics |
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[[Category:1990 albums]] |
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Hot Dogma | ||||
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Studio album by | ||||
Released | 1 October 1990 | |||
Recorded | 1989, April–July 1990 | |||
Studio | Platinum Studios, Sing Sing Studios | |||
Genre | Alternative rock | |||
Length | 50:38 70:41 (CD/MC versions) | |||
Label | Phonogram/PolyGram | |||
Producer | Peter Blyton and Laurence Maddy | |||
TISM chronology | ||||
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Singles from Hot Dogma | ||||
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Hot Dogma is the second studio album by the Australian alternative rock band TISM. It was released on 1 October 1990 and peaked at number 86 on the ARIA Charts. The title comes from a joining of the two phrases hot dog, a food, and dogma, a specific religious belief.[citation needed] An additional disc, Hot Dogma - The Interview Disc was added to initial sales copies and contains live responses by TISM to an unheard DJ’s questions.
On 18 November 2024, the album was reissued on CD and (for the first time) double LP, containing the full 24-song tracklist.
Reception
[edit]In a review of TISM’s sixth studio album The White Albun, Anton S Trees of FasterLouder compared it to Hot Dogma, where the latter is "filled with moments of introspection and reflection on the nature of self, existence and mortality – TISM examine the value of life. Most prominent amongst the examinations of mortality and the cyclical nature of existence is 'Life Kills'."[1]
Steve Bell of theMusic.com.au website noticed it "quickly became a fan favourite but didn't set the world on fire commercially nor bother the charts, so TISM were soon unceremoniously dumped by Phonogram during 1991 and found themselves homeless."[2]
Cover and liner notes
[edit]The cover of the album features what appear to be Chinese Red Guards carrying a large banner with “TISM” written across it and carrying what, on first look, appears to be Mao Zedong's Little Red Book, but is on closer inspection The TISM Guide To Little Aesthetics. The artwork closely resembled posters of the time of Mao's reign.[citation needed]
The Chinese on the cover (Chinese: 无产阶级革命派在迪思想的伟大红旗下联合起来!) translates into "The unification of the proletariat under the banner of TISM".[citation needed]
The back cover of the album has the track lists in Chinese, however the band have repeatedly claimed that the Asian division of Polygram released a version with the track titles in English.[3] The titles are listed in English in the liner notes.
On the original 1990 CD release, the Chinese text wrapped around the cover art, as on the LP, but the 2024 reissue placed the entire text on the front of the digipak. The original LP release featured an inner sleeve with the liner notes, however this was changed to a gatefold sleeve on the reissue, with it instead containing inner sleeves with full lyrics to the album.
Track listings
[edit]Original LP version
[edit]No. | Title | Length |
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1. | "The TISM Boat Hire Offer" | 2:54 |
2. | "ExistentialTISM" | 3:31 |
3. | "While My Catarrh Gently Weeps" | 5:18 |
4. | "They Shoot Heroin, Don't They?" | 2:49 |
5. | "Kevin Borich Expressionism Part 1" | 0:23 |
6. | "Whinge Rock" | 2:34 |
7. | "(I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and) Whittle Away My Furniture" | 2:13 |
8. | "The TISM Finance Plan Offer" | 2:29 |
9. | "Leo's Toltoy" | 4:04 |
No. | Title | Length |
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10. | "The History of Western Civilisation" | 3:00 |
11. | "Kevin Borich Expressionism Part 2" | 0:22 |
12. | "My Generation" | 4:06 |
13. | "Kevin Borich Expressionism Part 4" | 0:25 |
14. | "Let's Club It to Death" | 2:46 |
15. | "Let's Form a Company" | 4:07 |
16. | "Life Kills" | 5:53 |
17. | "Pus of the Dead" | 2:31 |
18. | "It's Novel! It's Unique!! It's Shithouse!!!" | 1:46 |
CD, cassette and reissue LP versions
[edit]No. | Title | Length |
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1. | "The TISM Boat Hire Offer" | 2:54 |
2. | "ExistentialTISM" | 3:31 |
3. | "While My Catarrh Gently Weeps" | 5:18 |
4. | "They Shoot Heroin, Don't They?" | 2:49 |
5. | "Dazed And Confucious" | 5:33 |
6. | "Kevin Borich Expressionism Part 1" | 0:23 |
7. | "I'll 'Ave Ya" | 2:14 |
8. | "Whinge Rock" | 2:34 |
9. | "The TISM Nightsoil Cart And Horse Blues" | 2:53 |
10. | "I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and Whittle Away My Furniture" | 2:13 |
11. | "The TISM Finance Plan Offer" | 2:29 |
12. | "Leo's Toltoy" | 4:04 |
No. | Title | Length |
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13. | "The History of Western Civilisation" | 3:00 |
14. | "Kevin Borich Expressionism Part 2" | 0:22 |
15. | "My Generation" | 3:20 |
16. | "I Don't Want TISM, I Want a Girlfriend" | 4:06 |
17. | "Kevin Borich Expressionism Part 4" | 0:25 |
18. | "Get Thee in My Behind, Satan" | 3:02 |
19. | "We Are the Champignons" | 2:13 |
20. | "Let's Club It to Death" | 2:46 |
21. | "Let's Form a Company" | 4:07 |
22. | "Life Kills" | 3:35 |
23. | Untitled (unlisted Life Kills/Pus of the Dead segue) | 2:15 |
24. | "Pus of the Dead" | 2:34 |
25. | "It's Novel! It's Unique! It's Shithouse!" | 1:46 |
No. | Title | Length |
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26. | "The Ball That Doesn't Turn, but Goes Straight on with the Arm" | 1:44 |
27. | "The TISM Finance Plan Offer" (from the rehearsal tapes) | 2:46 |
28. | "Put Your Dog to Sleep" (from the rehearsal tapes) | 3:16 |
29. | "Naked Movie Star" | 2:36 |
30. | "I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and Whittle Away My Furniture" (from the rehearsal tapes) | 2:10 |
The unlisted segue and "Life Kills" are indexed as one 5:52-long track on the iTunes and Spotify releases.
Hot Dogma – The Interview Disc
[edit]LP copies of Hot Dogma were bundled with a pack-in 7" single, containing a humorous open-ended interview with TISM and blank spaces for a DJ to insert the questions. Both sides contain the same interview.
Questions
[edit]- "Your new album is on PolyGram, will you change now that you're signed to a major label?"
- "How did you guys come to be in a band?"
- "Why don't you ever show your face?"
- "Your live shows have a reputation for being pretty wild affairs. Do you deliberately set out to work up your audience?"
- "What kind of people come to your shows?"
- "Your new album Hot Dogma is pretty amazing - over an hour of music, all kinds of different styles; what can you tell us about it?"
- "OK, so you obviously prefer not to give much away in interviews. Why is that?"
- "I am a self-respecting DJ..."
- "I do think I have a feel for what's going down..."
- "I do have a certain duty towards my audience..."
- "YES!"
The last four tracks on the disc are questions from TISM to the DJ.
Hot Dogma (Sing Sing Sessions)
[edit]Hot Dogma (Sing Sing Sessions) | |
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Demo album by | |
Released | 18 August 2023 |
Recorded | 17–18 March 1990 |
Studio | Sing Sing Studios |
Genre | Alternative rock |
Length | 76:27 |
Label | genre b.goode |
Producer | TISM |
On 17 and 18 March 1990, TISM recorded demos for what eventually became Hot Dogma at Sing Sing Studios. Six tracks from the session were released in 1995 on Collected Recordings 1986-1993, while the whole set of demos was eventually released on 18 August 2023, as part of the ongoing reissue campaign of TISM's discography, and hit #14 on the ARIA Australian Artist charts.[4]
Notable inclusions are the first known studio recording of "Opium is the Religion of the Masses", a song previously only known from live recordings from the Great Truckin' Songs of the Renaissance era, and "Greece is Still Greece", which provided the backing music for the album version of "The TISM Finance Plan Offer", as well as "Too Cool for School, Too Stupid for Life", a song that had been performed several times by TISM in 1989 but never used on an album.
Tracklist
[edit]- Life Kills
- Wham Bam Thank You Imam*
- ExistentialTISM
- Greece is Still Greece
- The TISM Finance Plan Offer*
- Let's Form a Company
- Opium is the Religion of the Masses
- Put Your Dog to Sleep*
- The Ball That Doesn't Turn, but Goes Straight On With the Arm
- (I'm Gonna Sit Right Down and) Whittle Away My Furniture
- My Generation
- Dazed and Confucius
- Naked Movie Star
- In Defence of Poetry*
- The TISM Nightsoil Cart and Horse Blues
- While My Catarrh Gently Weeps
- Too Cool for School / All You Don't Know and All You Don't Need to Know
- Get Thee in My Behind, Satan
- The Law of Repulsion After Orgasm*
- They Shoot Heroin, Don't They?
- Let's Club It to Death
- We Are the Champignons
- Kevin Borich Expressionism*
- The TISM Boat Hire Offer
- Whinge Rock
- previously released
Charts
[edit]Chart (1990) | Peak position |
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Australian Albums (ARIA)[5] | 86 |
Release history
[edit]Region | Date | Format(s) | Edition | Label | Catalogue |
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Australia | October 1990 | Standard | Phonogram Records | 846901-1/ 846901-2/ 846901-4 | |
1994 | Re-issue | 846 901-2 | |||
October 2009 | Genre B.Goode | — |
References
[edit]- ^ Trees, Anton S (30 June 2004). "TISM – The White Albun". FasterLouder. Archived from the original on 19 October 2015. Retrieved 21 July 2016.
- ^ Bell, Steve (1 May 2015). "20 Years Ago: How TISM's Third Album Helped Them Break Through, Despite Their Best Efforts". theMusic.com.au. Retrieved 21 July 2016.
- ^ "Releases :: Hot Dogma". Australian Music Online. Archived from the original on 21 November 2005. Retrieved 21 July 2016.
- ^ "ARIA Top 20 Australian Albums Chart".
- ^ Ryan, Gavin (2011). Australia's Music Charts 1988–2010. Mt. Martha, VIC, Australia: Moonlight Publishing. p. 282.