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My understanding is that HMS Drake (HMS Vivid before 1932) is specifically the RN Barracks at Keyham, adjascent to the dockyard site[http://www.exeterflotilla.org/history_misc/drake/dr_home.html]. Should this be made clear in the article? [[User:Alansplodge|Alansplodge]] ([[User talk:Alansplodge|talk]]) 16:03, 23 February 2010 (UTC) |
My understanding is that HMS Drake (HMS Vivid before 1932) is specifically the RN Barracks at Keyham, adjascent to the dockyard site[http://www.exeterflotilla.org/history_misc/drake/dr_home.html]. Should this be made clear in the article? [[User:Alansplodge|Alansplodge]] ([[User talk:Alansplodge|talk]]) 16:03, 23 February 2010 (UTC) |
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== Guz - nickname for HMNB Devonport == |
== Guz - nickname for HMNB Devonport == |
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Paragraph 2 of this article states that Guz, the nickname for Devonport, comes from "...an obsolete unit of length used in parts of Asia...." which in part seems to have been lifted directly from the Wiki article [[Guz]] and, indeed, links to it. However, the citation for the paragraph merely states that Guz is the nickname and offers no explanation as to its origin <ref>http://www.naval-history.net/WW2MemoirAndSo02.htm A Guz Stoker</ref>.<br> |
Paragraph 2 of this article states that Guz, the nickname for Devonport, comes from "...an obsolete unit of length used in parts of Asia...." which in part seems to have been lifted directly from the Wiki article [[Guz]] and, indeed, links to it. However, the citation for the paragraph merely states that Guz is the nickname and offers no explanation as to its origin <ref>http://www.naval-history.net/WW2MemoirAndSo02.htm A Guz Stoker</ref>.<br/> |
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I wasn't very happy with that because it was entirely not my understanding of the origin of the nickname. There is a reliable source - a Royal Naval Museum web page <ref>http://www.royalnavalmuseum.org/info_sheets_nicknames.htm </ref> - which both supports my belief that the origin is the less exotic "Guzzle", and confirms that it is a nickname for the place, so I've made that change, removed the link to the [Guz] measurement and cited the RN museum as the source.[[User:JH49S|JH49S]] ([[User talk:JH49S|talk]]) 11:49, 7 March 2010 (UTC) |
I wasn't very happy with that because it was entirely not my understanding of the origin of the nickname. There is a reliable source - a Royal Naval Museum web page <ref>http://www.royalnavalmuseum.org/info_sheets_nicknames.htm </ref> - which both supports my belief that the origin is the less exotic "Guzzle", and confirms that it is a nickname for the place, so I've made that change, removed the link to the [Guz] measurement and cited the RN museum as the source.[[User:JH49S|JH49S]] ([[User talk:JH49S|talk]]) 11:49, 7 March 2010 (UTC) |
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== Picture "Dry Docks in Use" is of Portsmouth, not Devonport == |
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The picture Dry Docks in Use, under the section "Today" in fact depicts dry dock facilities in Portsmouth rather than Devonport. |
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This can be seen on Google Maps by searching for Fountain Road, Portsmouth which forms the northern limit of the dockyard there. This is the road in the upper left portion of the picture. |
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The picture has been taken facing East looking into the main part of the basin at Portsmouth. |
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[[Special:Contributions/81.156.208.31|81.156.208.31]] ([[User talk:81.156.208.31|talk]]) 21:51, 22 May 2016 (UTC) |
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:Well spotted! I didn't check Google Maps, but you're obviously correct based on the other photos in the series (e.g. [[:File:UK Defence Imagery Naval Bases image 05.jpg]] shows the same scene from another angle, and it's visible on the left of [[:File:Aerial photograph of Portsmouth Dockyard taken during a Photex, taken from 2,000 feet. MOD 45144952.jpg|this wider scene]], which is definitely not Devonport). I've removed it from the article and will correct the file description. —[[User:Smalljim|S<small>MALL</small>]][[User talk:Smalljim#top|<small>JIM</small>]] 22:38, 22 May 2016 (UTC) |
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== largest naval base? == |
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the article mentions that hmnb Devonport is the largest naval base in Europe. |
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but even [[HMNB Clyde]] is larger. |
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([[Faslane naval base]] 87 ha and [[RNAD Coulport]] 648 ha ) together 771 ha about 2.5 times the size of Devonport [[Special:Contributions/213.205.241.16|213.205.241.16]] ([[User talk:213.205.241.16|talk]]) 12:00, 12 February 2022 (UTC) |
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== Image of South Yard == |
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: Which picture are you referring to? The caption below the image in the infobox says "Aerial view of HMNB Devonport: the South Yard (in the foreground) dates from 1692, since when the dockyard has expanded northwards (towards the top of the picture)." [[User:Gavbadger|Gavbadger]] ([[User talk:Gavbadger|talk]]) 17:50, 18 November 2024 (UTC) |
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My understanding is that HMS Drake (HMS Vivid before 1932) is specifically the RN Barracks at Keyham, adjascent to the dockyard site[1]. Should this be made clear in the article? Alansplodge (talk) 16:03, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
Guz - nickname for HMNB Devonport
[edit]Paragraph 2 of this article states that Guz, the nickname for Devonport, comes from "...an obsolete unit of length used in parts of Asia...." which in part seems to have been lifted directly from the Wiki article Guz and, indeed, links to it. However, the citation for the paragraph merely states that Guz is the nickname and offers no explanation as to its origin [1].
I wasn't very happy with that because it was entirely not my understanding of the origin of the nickname. There is a reliable source - a Royal Naval Museum web page [2] - which both supports my belief that the origin is the less exotic "Guzzle", and confirms that it is a nickname for the place, so I've made that change, removed the link to the [Guz] measurement and cited the RN museum as the source.JH49S (talk) 11:49, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
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Picture "Dry Docks in Use" is of Portsmouth, not Devonport
[edit]The picture Dry Docks in Use, under the section "Today" in fact depicts dry dock facilities in Portsmouth rather than Devonport. This can be seen on Google Maps by searching for Fountain Road, Portsmouth which forms the northern limit of the dockyard there. This is the road in the upper left portion of the picture.
The picture has been taken facing East looking into the main part of the basin at Portsmouth. 81.156.208.31 (talk) 21:51, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
- Well spotted! I didn't check Google Maps, but you're obviously correct based on the other photos in the series (e.g. File:UK Defence Imagery Naval Bases image 05.jpg shows the same scene from another angle, and it's visible on the left of this wider scene, which is definitely not Devonport). I've removed it from the article and will correct the file description. —SMALLJIM 22:38, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
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largest naval base?
[edit]the article mentions that hmnb Devonport is the largest naval base in Europe. but even HMNB Clyde is larger. (Faslane naval base 87 ha and RNAD Coulport 648 ha ) together 771 ha about 2.5 times the size of Devonport 213.205.241.16 (talk) 12:00, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
Image of South Yard
[edit]The image of South Yard on the homepage references being of 1962. Incorrect as the Frigate Complex is present and shows the logo of DML on its roof. 77.103.121.211 (talk) 17:37, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Which picture are you referring to? The caption below the image in the infobox says "Aerial view of HMNB Devonport: the South Yard (in the foreground) dates from 1692, since when the dockyard has expanded northwards (towards the top of the picture)." Gavbadger (talk) 17:50, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
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