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Unblock/rename

Hi Jpgordon. I'm not an admin and admittedly I don't know much about responding to unblock requests, but I believe this unblock you declined wiped out the user's proposed new name. Just wondering if that was what you intended... I've seen other declined unblocks that preserved the user's new requested name. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 17:05, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that's a bug to report in unblock reviewed, now under redevelopment. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇} 20:46, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Max45789

Hi, I have a question about sockpuppet templates. You unblocked Max45789 last December (User_talk:Max45789#Blocked_as_a_sockpuppet). What's the policy regarding the sockpuppet template on the user page User:Max45789 for cases like this? Should it stay or should it go? I noticed the user while trying to do some sock counting. I was looking at accounts that have been assigned to a sockmaster category but have no log entry and are not currently blocked (although they might be globally locked). Sean.hoyland (talk) 13:57, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The user can remove it any time they want. Or you can; they might consider it a favor. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇} 15:36, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Sean.hoyland (talk) 15:56, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your edit

This was brilliant. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:14, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello! Hope you're well. Thank you for confirming that we have indeed been dealing with extremely persistent vandalism and sockpuppetry on the Russians at War Wikipedia page. I have filed an Edit Request and another editor has placed a notice on the administrator's noticeboard, but as it stands, one of the bad versions of the page written by one of the socks is still published.

In light of that information could you please aid us in reverting the page to the previous, balanced version instead of the current version that is essentially a poorly-sourced and whitewashed piece of PR propaganda for the film, written by the now-banned socks.

This is the version we need that the socks have been trying to erase (I personally still think it sounds too promotional but at this point I'll take what I can get):

https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Russians_at_War&oldid=1247878515 Stoptheprop (talk) 10:57, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, I have no idea what the correct version is. What is your relationship to User:0lida0, who is also active at that article's talk page? --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇} 15:07, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is my backup for that account for dealing with suspected Russian trolls as I don't want to be harassed by them on my main account. As you can see, they're quite persistent and I often don't have the energy to deal with them. Stoptheprop (talk) 19:11, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Further context:

Talk:Russians at War#Propose previous version of page be restored Stoptheprop (talk) 19:24, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So, basically, you've been socking to avoid scrutiny. I'm blocking both accounts. --jpgordon^{𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇} 20:51, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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-== Kuči tribe ==
+== Unblock/rename ==
+Hi Jpgordon. I'm not an admin and admittedly I don't know much about responding to unblock requests, but I believe {{diff2|1255986663|this unblock}} you declined wiped out the user's proposed new name. Just wondering if that was what you intended... I've seen other declined unblocks that preserved the user's new requested name. --[[User:Drm310|Drm310]] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> ([[User talk:Drm310|talk]]) 17:05, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
-Hello, i am asking for advice.
+:Thanks, that's a bug to report in unblock reviewed, now under redevelopment. [[User:Jpgordon|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|&#x1d122;&#x1d106;&#x1D110;&#x1d107;]]</small></sup> 20:46, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
-In [[Kuči]] article there is a dispute about origin. While i think that direct, modern and academic source that directly addresses the claim of the origin and calls tribe "mixed in origin", which is based on the Ottoman census data from the creation time of the tribe (end of 15th century), some other editors are disagreeing and base their opinion on sources that comment on a 17th century language report by some catholic priest. While i have no problem with that report, as i've stated in the talk page, i don't think that something that happened 2 centuries later and only has 1 report, can be used to form an opinion that the tribe was Albanian in origin. I am saying opinion, because no source states directly that the tribe is Albanian in origin, and while they found sources that will group up this tribe with Albanian ones, those books don't talk about source, mostly about rules and traditions which are basically the same for all the tribes in North Albania, Montenegro and Herzegovina.
+==Max45789==
-Talk page discussions go nowhere, as they don't want to agree to anything, and i am the only one that has to talk there. As you can see, few of them that are in my opinion holding the article as a hostage, make changes without any communication between themselves, in a short span of time.
+Hi, I have a question about sockpuppet templates. You unblocked Max45789 last December ([[User_talk:Max45789#Blocked_as_a_sockpuppet]]). What's the policy regarding the sockpuppet template on the user page [[User:Max45789]] for cases like this? Should it stay or should it go? I noticed the user while trying to do some sock counting. I was looking at accounts that have been assigned to a sockmaster category but have no log entry and are not currently blocked (although they might be globally locked). [[User:Sean.hoyland|Sean.hoyland]] ([[User talk:Sean.hoyland|talk]]) 13:57, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
+:The user can remove it any time they want. Or you can; they might consider it a favor. [[User:Jpgordon|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|&#x1d122;&#x1d106;&#x1D110;&#x1d107;]]</small></sup> 15:36, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
-I tried opening dispute resolution, but i doubt they will answer at all, as they didn't in the last 24 hours (keep in mind, if i make an edit now on any of the articles they control, i am reverted in about 5 minutes).
+::Thanks [[User:Sean.hoyland|Sean.hoyland]] ([[User talk:Sean.hoyland|talk]]) 15:56, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
+== Your edit ==
-There's no reasoning with them, they claim that the question of origin doesn't need to be answered as it's [[WP:BLUESKY]], which clearly it's not.
+[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Clioos&diff=prev&oldid=1256831992 This] was brilliant.  Cheers. [[User:Magnolia677|Magnolia677]] ([[User talk:Magnolia677|talk]]) 21:14, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
-I always assume good faith, but based on their behaviour on other articles as well, i am starting to doubt that.
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-For example, they created page for [[Drekalovići]], which is a brotherhood in Kuči (and was covered by that article), but they claim it's a tribe (they use sources that claim nothing like that, and won't change that or delete the page) just so they could stack [[Albanian tribes]] sidebar, which they push into articles.
+Hello,
-They also constantly push for the Albanian variation of the name Kuči, instead of using English one. Both in the article, as well as in the talk page. They are slowly changing article until only the Albanian name is left, and that again makes me think that they have nationalistic POV which hurts the discussion. I asked them to at least not use that in talk page, but they declined.
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-What can be done? Sorry for the long post. [[User:Setxkbmap|Setxkbmap]] ([[User talk:Setxkbmap|talk]]) 21:20, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
+Kind Regards,
-:Really, what you need is more eyes on the discussion. An [[WP:RFC|RFC]] would be appropriate. This is a pretty complex issue regarding questions of sourcing and synthesis. I have no idea who in this dispute is correct. [[User:Jpgordon|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|&#x1d122;&#x1d106;&#x1D110;&#x1d107;]]</small></sup> 22:23, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
-::I never expected you to get into the sources, i just think that their way of working is wrong.
-::I will try RfC once dispute resolution is closed, which i assume will happen soon as they will never respons.
-::Thank you! [[User:Setxkbmap|Setxkbmap]] ([[User talk:Setxkbmap|talk]]) 22:25, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
-:::The synthesis part will be key. I look at {{tq|Albanian in origin}} and immediately think hell yeah {{cn}}. [[User:Jpgordon|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|&#x1d122;&#x1d106;&#x1D110;&#x1d107;]]</small></sup> 22:36, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
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+Hello! Hope you're well. Thank you for confirming that we have indeed been dealing with extremely persistent vandalism and sockpuppetry on the [[Russians at War]] Wikipedia page. I have filed an Edit Request and another editor has placed a notice on the administrator's noticeboard, but as it stands, one of the bad versions of the page written by one of the socks is still published.
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+In light of that information could you please aid us in reverting the page to the previous, balanced version instead of the current version that is essentially a poorly-sourced and whitewashed piece of PR propaganda for the film, written by the now-banned socks.
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+This is the version we need that the socks have been trying to erase (I personally still think it sounds too promotional but at this point I'll take what I can get):
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+https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Russians_at_War&oldid=1247878515 [[User:Stoptheprop|Stoptheprop]] ([[User talk:Stoptheprop|talk]]) 10:57, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
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+:No, I have no idea what the correct version is. What is your relationship to [[User:0lida0]], who is also active at that article's talk page? [[User:Jpgordon|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|&#x1d122;&#x1d106;&#x1D110;&#x1d107;]]</small></sup> 15:07, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
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+::This is my backup for that account for dealing with suspected Russian trolls as I don't want to be harassed by them on my main account. As you can see, they're quite persistent and I often don't have the energy to deal with them.  [[User:Stoptheprop|Stoptheprop]] ([[User talk:Stoptheprop|talk]]) 19:11, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
-:[[File:Gnome-colors-list-remove.svg|20px|alt=removed|Removed]] [[Special:Permalink/1242104108#Desysop request (Pppery)|Pppery]]
+:::Further context:
+:::[[Talk:Russians at War#Propose previous version of page be restored]] [[User:Stoptheprop|Stoptheprop]] ([[User talk:Stoptheprop|talk]]) 19:24, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
+:::So, basically, you've been socking to avoid scrutiny. I'm blocking both accounts. [[User:Jpgordon|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|&#x1d122;&#x1d106;&#x1D110;&#x1d107;]]</small></sup> 20:51, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
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-* The 161... address is indeed a blocked proxy. Your 192. address is local just to your device or local router. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 20:43, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
-Thanks, but this response does not actually state a reason for the decline. This is a home internet router. And I haven't edited anything on Widipedia in a very long time. Indeed our fiber hookup was just installed this last week so that IP address should be brand new anyway.
--- [[User:Mcorazao|Mcorazao]] ([[User talk:Mcorazao|talk]]) 21:14, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
-:The reason for the decline is that the 161... address is indeed a blocked proxy; it's McAfee's anonymization network, which we don't allow under [[WP:PROXY]]. [[User:Jpgordon|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|&#x1d122;&#x1d106;&#x1D110;&#x1d107;]]</small></sup> 22:17, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
-::Hmmm, dumb question, but is there an easy way to get off that proxy? I use my work computer (from home) a lot and this is the way it is configured. (Not a big deal since I don't plan to get heavily involved with WP again, but still.) -- [[User:Mcorazao|Mcorazao]] ([[User talk:Mcorazao|talk]]) 02:48, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
-:::Hm, I don't know offhand; I've not used anything McAfee in a long time. [[User:Jpgordon|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|&#x1d122;&#x1d106;&#x1D110;&#x1d107;]]</small></sup> 02:54, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
-== Related to Notwally ==
-Hey JP, I noticed your procedural decline at {{noping|Notwally}}'s Talk page and it dovetailed nicely into this "investigation" I'm doing of a new user named {{noping|Starinthemirror}}. I believe they are likely {{noping|Knowitall369}}, the user with whom Notwally was edit-warring. Knowitall hasn't edited since I blocked them for 48h on September 11. However, Star has been harassing Notwally on their Talk page and filed a report at ANI (which I removed twice). In addition, Star is saying essentially that Notwally is reverting at various articles without explanation or discussion on the Talk page (the former isn't accurate), which is precisely what Knowitall has complained about. Could you please compare the two?--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 16:57, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
-:Lol, please @[[User:Jpgordon|Jpgordon]], give @[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] a hand with investigating this. Honestly, I’d be honored if you thought I joined WP 14-years ago, so no shame there! Go ahead and look into everything thoroughly—compare whatever you need, and investigate this with your full focus. Time waste - @[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]]you dont own WP. We are all the same and @[[User:Notwally|Notwally]] Is deleting since 7 week content without any explanaions or discussions in Talk pages. Dont know whats so hard to understand here. [[User:Starinthemirror|Starinthemirror]] ([[User talk:Starinthemirror|talk]]) 17:05, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
-:This one needs to go to a full SPI. My own quick look shows intersections between this new account and a couple of others, with possible connections to [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kcosip/Archive]], but I don't have time today to do a proper analysis. [[User:Jpgordon|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|&#x1d122;&#x1d106;&#x1D110;&#x1d107;]]</small></sup> 17:24, 17 September 2024 (UTC)