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== WikiProject Mesoamerica == |
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Hi there CoyoteMan. Since you've evidently an interest in and aptitude for articles on Maya/Mesoamerican topics, I was wondering whether you'd be interested to participate in [[WP:MESO|WikiProject Mesoamerica]], intended to be a space for collaborating and discussing the coverage, content, development and organisation of articles related to Mesoamerican cultures- generally with a focus on the pre-Columbian, but not exclusively so. You'd be most welcome to look around the project pages and offer any comments or assistance you have time for. There's no 'minimum quota' for participation, it's rather a loosely structured organisation of some folks around here with a general interest and/or expertise in the area. All contribs and ideas are welcome, if you'd like to raise anything just note it on the [[WT:MESO|project discussion board]]. Anyways, keep up the fine work you've been doing on Chichen Itza & other related articles; cheers, --[[User:CJLL Wright|cjllw]]< |
Hi there CoyoteMan. Since you've evidently an interest in and aptitude for articles on Maya/Mesoamerican topics, I was wondering whether you'd be interested to participate in [[WP:MESO|WikiProject Mesoamerica]], intended to be a space for collaborating and discussing the coverage, content, development and organisation of articles related to Mesoamerican cultures- generally with a focus on the pre-Columbian, but not exclusively so. You'd be most welcome to look around the project pages and offer any comments or assistance you have time for. There's no 'minimum quota' for participation, it's rather a loosely structured organisation of some folks around here with a general interest and/or expertise in the area. All contribs and ideas are welcome, if you'd like to raise anything just note it on the [[WT:MESO|project discussion board]]. Anyways, keep up the fine work you've been doing on Chichen Itza & other related articles; cheers, --[[User:CJLL Wright|cjllw]]<span style="color:#DAA520;"> <span title="Pronunciation in IPA" class="IPA">ʘ</span> </span><small>''[[User talk:CJLL Wright|TALK]]''</small> 09:24, 23 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:Hola, CJLL Wright. My expertise is pretty much confined to Chichen Itza, and even then, to the post-Conquest era. Also, I am a writer, not an academic. That being said, if you think I can add value to your project, I will assist to the best of my limited abilities. Saludos! [[User:CoyoteMan31|CoyoteMan31]] 17:19, 25 July 2007 (UTC) |
:Hola, CJLL Wright. My expertise is pretty much confined to Chichen Itza, and even then, to the post-Conquest era. Also, I am a writer, not an academic. That being said, if you think I can add value to your project, I will assist to the best of my limited abilities. Saludos! [[User:CoyoteMan31|CoyoteMan31]] 17:19, 25 July 2007 (UTC) |
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No worries, CoyoteMan, no qualifications or specialisation required, just a willingness to help out, frequency doesn't matter either. Anything you can manage, really- we are actually pretty light on coverage of the post-conquest developments in Yucatan & Mesoamerica in general, so any additions in that direction would be excellent. There's a whole lot more that could and should be covered, and ample scope for improvement in both prose and content. Cheers, --[[User:CJLL Wright|cjllw]]< |
No worries, CoyoteMan, no qualifications or specialisation required, just a willingness to help out, frequency doesn't matter either. Anything you can manage, really- we are actually pretty light on coverage of the post-conquest developments in Yucatan & Mesoamerica in general, so any additions in that direction would be excellent. There's a whole lot more that could and should be covered, and ample scope for improvement in both prose and content. Cheers, --[[User:CJLL Wright|cjllw]]<span style="color:#DAA520;"> <span title="Pronunciation in IPA" class="IPA">ʘ</span> </span><small>''[[User talk:CJLL Wright|TALK]]''</small> 09:35, 26 July 2007 (UTC) |
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== [[William H. Lewis]] == |
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:Please keep me out of your squabbles with the 2012 Phenom editors. [[User:CoyoteMan31|CoyoteMan31]] ([[User talk:CoyoteMan31#top|talk]]) 19:34, 13 September 2011 (UTC) |
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== Comalcalco |
== Comalcalco Brick == |
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Since we're "strongly suggesting" and "respectfully suggesting" I strongly suggest that in the future if you want to talk to me, you post it to my talk page, not my user page. Also I respectfully suggest that you register as a Wikipedia editor. Point taken. Yes, I did get too angry and I did delete what I wrote and replaced it with more temperate rhetoric but I left the assertion that Eric Boot blew it. He mis-read the Haab' glyph. I took one look at the glyph and knew it wasn't K'ank'in. Then he concluded based on zero evidence that because it was the same Calendar Round as 13.0.0.0.0 that it was somehow related. I just couldn't believe that a supposed expert in this field would make such foolish mistakes. It's appalling how poorly most academics in this field understand the Maya calendar - and this includes some of the preeminent experts in the field like Lounsbury, Schele and Freidel. This includes the suposed experts at INAH who's article makes just about every mistake you can about the Long Count from saying that there's a 13 bak'tun long cycle to using the Thompson correlation to using the proleptic Gregorian calendar and sensationalizing the completion of the thirteenth bak'tun. I will try in the future to be more temperate but if my intemperate post succeeded in acting as a preemptive strike to prevent even more balderdash from becoming part of the urban legend about the 13th bak'tun, I'm glad. [[User:Senor Cuete|Senor Cuete]] ([[User talk:Senor Cuete|talk]]) 20:46, 1 December 2011 (UTC)Senor Cuete |
Since we're "strongly suggesting" and "respectfully suggesting" I strongly suggest that in the future if you want to talk to me, you post it to my talk page, not my user page. Also I respectfully suggest that you register as a Wikipedia editor. Point taken. Yes, I did get too angry and I did delete what I wrote and replaced it with more temperate rhetoric but I left the assertion that Eric Boot blew it. He mis-read the Haab' glyph. I took one look at the glyph and knew it wasn't K'ank'in. Then he concluded based on zero evidence that because it was the same Calendar Round as 13.0.0.0.0 that it was somehow related. I just couldn't believe that a supposed expert in this field would make such foolish mistakes. It's appalling how poorly most academics in this field understand the Maya calendar - and this includes some of the preeminent experts in the field like Lounsbury, Schele and Freidel. This includes the suposed experts at INAH who's article makes just about every mistake you can about the Long Count from saying that there's a 13 bak'tun long cycle to using the Thompson correlation to using the proleptic Gregorian calendar and sensationalizing the completion of the thirteenth bak'tun. I will try in the future to be more temperate but if my intemperate post succeeded in acting as a preemptive strike to prevent even more balderdash from becoming part of the urban legend about the 13th bak'tun, I'm glad. [[User:Senor Cuete|Senor Cuete]] ([[User talk:Senor Cuete|talk]]) 20:46, 1 December 2011 (UTC)Senor Cuete |
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== Marc Smulders == |
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Check the new thread on the talk page for the Long Count article |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mesoamerican_Long_Count_calendar |
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entitled "Fundamental principles are missing!" |
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[[User:Senor Cuete|Senor Cuete]] ([[User talk:Senor Cuete|talk]]) 21:30, 16 December 2011 (UTC)Senor Cuete |
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==2012== |
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The current wording of the paragraph makes no claim that the majority or even a substantial minority of Maya disblieve in b'ak'tun 13; it merely reports what those particular individuals are saying. I don't see why their opinions are invalid. <b>[[User:Serendipodous|<span style="color:#0000bb;">Serendi</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Serendipodous|<sup style="color:#bb0000;">pod</sup>]][[User talk: Serendipodous|<span style="color:#0000bb;">ous</span>]]</b> 23:14, 1 January 2012 (UTC) |
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: Well, I'd like to think we only had one actual disagreement, and it's been resolved. :-) <b>[[User:Serendipodous|<span style="color:#0000bb;">Serendi</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Serendipodous|<sup style="color:#bb0000;">pod</sup>]][[User talk: Serendipodous|<span style="color:#0000bb;">ous</span>]]</b> 12:24, 10 August 2012 (UTC) |
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Coyote, I don't understand your issue with the line about "simple astronomical observations". It's sourced and it's true, so what's the problem? <b>[[User:Serendipodous|<span style="color:#0000bb;">Serendi</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Serendipodous|<sup style="color:#bb0000;">pod</sup>]][[User talk: Serendipodous|<span style="color:#0000bb;">ous</span>]]</b> 21:17, 12 December 2012 (UTC) |
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::I've always disliked that line and felt it unnecessary, but I believe we've discussed it before. I must have missed the original source for that. When I edited it, the footnote was to the Morrison article. Is that where you took it from? [[User:CoyoteMan31|CoyoteMan31]] ([[User talk:CoyoteMan31#top|talk]]) 21:55, 12 December 2012 (UTC) |
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== Plongeon == |
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I came across the reference to Plongeon in a reprint of Elder Stevens (?-1847) book published by the Jaredite Publication Society. The editord of That book fail to cite the source which was = Sr. Augustus de Plongeon. ''What Alayon Taught: The Curious Tales of Mariano Chable'' [unpublish manuscript]. How many sources should I have cited. [[User:Prsaucer1958|Prsaucer1958]] ([[User talk:Prsaucer1958|talk]]) 00:02, 9 November 2013 (UTC) |
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::Hello! If Le Plongeon said it, then the source should be within Le Plongeon's writings, not someone who said he said it. There have been many people who have ascribed various theories to Le Plongeon. Le Plongeon in his writings, however, was pretty clear that he believed the Chaacmol to be of Prince Coh. The source you cited, alas, was not Elder Stevens, but someone who added a modern footnote to Stevens' Book of Jared. The footnote reads, "Augustus Le Plongeon believed that the Chac-Mools (Mayan statues) are artistic representation of Kakmula as he dictated the Book of Kakmula." The sentence is gibberish, and I suspect that a line or several words are missing. [[User:CoyoteMan31|CoyoteMan31]] ([[User talk:CoyoteMan31#top|talk]]) 00:37, 10 November 2013 (UTC) |
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"The assertion that Le Plongeon was an amateur is not supported by the article below, nor by biographer Desmond who is used in this article, nor by other Le Plongeon biographers such as Brunhouse, not even by the text of the article you cite, which notes Le Plongeon did the first "systematic excavation" of Chichen Itza." - that last bit if OR. I've posted several sources on the talk page now. [[User:Doug Weller|<span style="color:#070">Doug Weller</span>]] [[User talk:Doug Weller|talk]] 14:10, 21 June 2024 (UTC) |
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WikiProject Mesoamerica
[edit]Hi there CoyoteMan. Since you've evidently an interest in and aptitude for articles on Maya/Mesoamerican topics, I was wondering whether you'd be interested to participate in WikiProject Mesoamerica, intended to be a space for collaborating and discussing the coverage, content, development and organisation of articles related to Mesoamerican cultures- generally with a focus on the pre-Columbian, but not exclusively so. You'd be most welcome to look around the project pages and offer any comments or assistance you have time for. There's no 'minimum quota' for participation, it's rather a loosely structured organisation of some folks around here with a general interest and/or expertise in the area. All contribs and ideas are welcome, if you'd like to raise anything just note it on the project discussion board. Anyways, keep up the fine work you've been doing on Chichen Itza & other related articles; cheers, --cjllw ʘ TALK 09:24, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
- Hola, CJLL Wright. My expertise is pretty much confined to Chichen Itza, and even then, to the post-Conquest era. Also, I am a writer, not an academic. That being said, if you think I can add value to your project, I will assist to the best of my limited abilities. Saludos! CoyoteMan31 17:19, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
No worries, CoyoteMan, no qualifications or specialisation required, just a willingness to help out, frequency doesn't matter either. Anything you can manage, really- we are actually pretty light on coverage of the post-conquest developments in Yucatan & Mesoamerica in general, so any additions in that direction would be excellent. There's a whole lot more that could and should be covered, and ample scope for improvement in both prose and content. Cheers, --cjllw ʘ TALK 09:35, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the compliment about the Lewis article. I happened across him by chance in researching early college football All-Americans and was amazed that a man with such a fascinating life and career did not have a wikipedia article. Cbl62 (talk) 18:06, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
2012 page FYI
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Argüelles settled on the date of December 21 in his book The Mayan Factor: Path Beyond Technology,[42][43] in which he claimed on that date the Earth would pass through a great "beam" from the center of our galaxy, and that the Maya aligned their calendar in anticipation of that event.[44]
Jimini Cricket 18:54, 11 September 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.247.77.234 (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.247.77.234 (talk)
- Please keep me out of your squabbles with the 2012 Phenom editors. CoyoteMan31 (talk) 19:34, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
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[edit]Since we're "strongly suggesting" and "respectfully suggesting" I strongly suggest that in the future if you want to talk to me, you post it to my talk page, not my user page. Also I respectfully suggest that you register as a Wikipedia editor. Point taken. Yes, I did get too angry and I did delete what I wrote and replaced it with more temperate rhetoric but I left the assertion that Eric Boot blew it. He mis-read the Haab' glyph. I took one look at the glyph and knew it wasn't K'ank'in. Then he concluded based on zero evidence that because it was the same Calendar Round as 13.0.0.0.0 that it was somehow related. I just couldn't believe that a supposed expert in this field would make such foolish mistakes. It's appalling how poorly most academics in this field understand the Maya calendar - and this includes some of the preeminent experts in the field like Lounsbury, Schele and Freidel. This includes the suposed experts at INAH who's article makes just about every mistake you can about the Long Count from saying that there's a 13 bak'tun long cycle to using the Thompson correlation to using the proleptic Gregorian calendar and sensationalizing the completion of the thirteenth bak'tun. I will try in the future to be more temperate but if my intemperate post succeeded in acting as a preemptive strike to prevent even more balderdash from becoming part of the urban legend about the 13th bak'tun, I'm glad. Senor Cuete (talk) 20:46, 1 December 2011 (UTC)Senor Cuete
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[edit]Check the new thread on the talk page for the Long Count article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mesoamerican_Long_Count_calendar
entitled "Fundamental principles are missing!"
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[edit]The current wording of the paragraph makes no claim that the majority or even a substantial minority of Maya disblieve in b'ak'tun 13; it merely reports what those particular individuals are saying. I don't see why their opinions are invalid. Serendipodous 23:14, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- Well, I'd like to think we only had one actual disagreement, and it's been resolved. :-) Serendipodous 12:24, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
Coyote, I don't understand your issue with the line about "simple astronomical observations". It's sourced and it's true, so what's the problem? Serendipodous 21:17, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
- I've always disliked that line and felt it unnecessary, but I believe we've discussed it before. I must have missed the original source for that. When I edited it, the footnote was to the Morrison article. Is that where you took it from? CoyoteMan31 (talk) 21:55, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
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[edit]Hi
I came across the reference to Plongeon in a reprint of Elder Stevens (?-1847) book published by the Jaredite Publication Society. The editord of That book fail to cite the source which was = Sr. Augustus de Plongeon. What Alayon Taught: The Curious Tales of Mariano Chable [unpublish manuscript]. How many sources should I have cited. Prsaucer1958 (talk) 00:02, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
- Hello! If Le Plongeon said it, then the source should be within Le Plongeon's writings, not someone who said he said it. There have been many people who have ascribed various theories to Le Plongeon. Le Plongeon in his writings, however, was pretty clear that he believed the Chaacmol to be of Prince Coh. The source you cited, alas, was not Elder Stevens, but someone who added a modern footnote to Stevens' Book of Jared. The footnote reads, "Augustus Le Plongeon believed that the Chac-Mools (Mayan statues) are artistic representation of Kakmula as he dictated the Book of Kakmula." The sentence is gibberish, and I suspect that a line or several words are missing. CoyoteMan31 (talk) 00:37, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
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[edit]"The assertion that Le Plongeon was an amateur is not supported by the article below, nor by biographer Desmond who is used in this article, nor by other Le Plongeon biographers such as Brunhouse, not even by the text of the article you cite, which notes Le Plongeon did the first "systematic excavation" of Chichen Itza." - that last bit if OR. I've posted several sources on the talk page now. Doug Weller talk 14:10, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
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