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== Wiknic picnic ==
== Wiknic picnic ==


Hi, thanks for signing up at [[Wikipedia:Meetup/Seattle/Wiknic/2015]]. The picnic is a potluck, so on the signup page please say what food or drink you are planning to bring. Thanks! --<font style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#008C3A 0.1em 0.1em 1.5em,#01796F -0.1em -0.1em 1.5em;color:#000000">[[User:Pine|<font color="#01796F"><b>Pine</b></font>]][[User talk:Pine|<font color="#01796F"><sup>✉</sup></font>]]</font> 04:07, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for signing up at [[Wikipedia:Meetup/Seattle/Wiknic/2015]]. The picnic is a potluck, so on the signup page please say what food or drink you are planning to bring. Thanks! --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#008C3A 0.1em 0.1em 1.5em,#01796F -0.1em -0.1em 1.5em;">[[User:Pine|<b style="color:#01796F;">Pine</b>]][[User talk:Pine|<sup style="color:#01796F;">✉</sup>]]</span> 04:07, 1 July 2015 (UTC)


== Weather update for Wiknic ==
== Weather update for Wiknic ==


Hi, weather update for Wiknic: the forecast is now for 91 degrees and a high UV index. Peaceray is bringing icewater, but everyone do please take appropriate precautions for the weather, such as sunscreen, hats, sunglasses, and staying hydrated. There will be some shade in the trees. It's ok for those of us who are more temperature and/or sunlight sensitive to come but leave early, or skip the event if you think that you should; people who are very young, elderly, or have other health issues are more vulnerable to heat stroke. Health and safety first. Cheers, --<font style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#008C3A 0.1em 0.1em 1.5em,#01796F -0.1em -0.1em 1.5em;color:#000000">[[User:Pine|<font color="#01796F"><b>Pine</b></font>]][[User talk:Pine|<font color="#01796F"><sup>✉</sup></font>]]</font> 15:05, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
Hi, weather update for Wiknic: the forecast is now for 91 degrees and a high UV index. Peaceray is bringing icewater, but everyone do please take appropriate precautions for the weather, such as sunscreen, hats, sunglasses, and staying hydrated. There will be some shade in the trees. It's ok for those of us who are more temperature and/or sunlight sensitive to come but leave early, or skip the event if you think that you should; people who are very young, elderly, or have other health issues are more vulnerable to heat stroke. Health and safety first. Cheers, --<span style="white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:#008C3A 0.1em 0.1em 1.5em,#01796F -0.1em -0.1em 1.5em;">[[User:Pine|<b style="color:#01796F;">Pine</b>]][[User talk:Pine|<sup style="color:#01796F;">✉</sup>]]</span> 15:05, 2 July 2015 (UTC)


== Help:Template ==
== Help:Template ==
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Please stop changing [[Help:Template]]. It is very difficult to make much sense of what you have been writing. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 20:00, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Please stop changing [[Help:Template]]. It is very difficult to make much sense of what you have been writing. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 20:00, 24 July 2015 (UTC)


:Dear Redrose, I'm sorry. Maybe it should have been a proposal on the talk page. I am already in the process of rewriting it based on your earlier feedback in the edit summary. Thank you for all your patience. &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<font color="#00C000">Cp</font><font color="#80C000">i</font><font color="#C08000">r</font><font color="#C00000">al</font>]][[User talk:Cpiral|<font color="#2820F0">Cpiral</font>]] 22:10, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
:Dear Redrose, I'm sorry. Maybe it should have been a proposal on the talk page. I am already in the process of rewriting it based on your earlier feedback in the edit summary. Thank you for all your patience. &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<span style="color:#00C000;">Cp</span><span style="color:#80C000;">i</span><span style="color:#C08000;">r</span><span style="color:#C00000;">al</span>]][[User talk:Cpiral|<span style="color:#2820F0;">Cpiral</span>]] 22:10, 24 July 2015 (UTC)


== Deprecated double image ==
== Deprecated double image ==
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I note the change to using a multiple image versus the "deprecated" double image at [[Jefferson Davis]]. Is there a technical reason why the double image is deprecated? If so, I'll stop using it. Thanks. [[User:TheVirginiaHistorian|TheVirginiaHistorian]] ([[User talk:TheVirginiaHistorian|talk]]) 08:03, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
I note the change to using a multiple image versus the "deprecated" double image at [[Jefferson Davis]]. Is there a technical reason why the double image is deprecated? If so, I'll stop using it. Thanks. [[User:TheVirginiaHistorian|TheVirginiaHistorian]] ([[User talk:TheVirginiaHistorian|talk]]) 08:03, 1 September 2015 (UTC)


:No. You can keep using it. Here's the deal. {{edit|Template:double image|Double image just calls multiple image}}. Double image has been deleted a while back, and all that's left in its place is its emulator: {{tl|multiple image}}. Take a look at {{tl|multiple image}} documentation and decide for yourself how you proceed. Don't resort to using [[WP:HTML5|other obsolete workarounds]] because of the old double image, but otherwise it should be technically fine to keep using. I changed one use of Double image out because it was using the obsolete {{tag|center}} tags, probably because it had to when it was written. &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<font color="#00C000">Cp</font><font color="#80C000">i</font><font color="#C08000">r</font><font color="#C00000">al</font>]][[User talk:Cpiral|<font color="#2820F0">Cpiral</font>]] 08:44, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
:No. You can keep using it. Here's the deal. {{edit|Template:double image|Double image just calls multiple image}}. Double image has been deleted a while back, and all that's left in its place is its emulator: {{tl|multiple image}}. Take a look at {{tl|multiple image}} documentation and decide for yourself how you proceed. Don't resort to using [[WP:HTML5|other obsolete workarounds]] because of the old double image, but otherwise it should be technically fine to keep using. I changed one use of Double image out because it was using the obsolete {{tag|center}} tags, probably because it had to when it was written. &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<span style="color:#00C000;">Cp</span><span style="color:#80C000;">i</span><span style="color:#C08000;">r</span><span style="color:#C00000;">al</span>]][[User talk:Cpiral|<span style="color:#2820F0;">Cpiral</span>]] 08:44, 1 September 2015 (UTC)


::I very much enjoy finding double images, rarely triple images, to convey nuance in historical articles and article sections. I have had some success among articles of interest, although they are cut to one image on some pages on the grounds they slow article loading. This has been my experience at United States, History of the United States, United States Constitution, History of the United States Constitution. The multiple image seems to be a more consistent answer for most uses...I always prefer centering the descriptions. [[User:TheVirginiaHistorian|TheVirginiaHistorian]] ([[User talk:TheVirginiaHistorian|talk]]) 12:35, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
::I very much enjoy finding double images, rarely triple images, to convey nuance in historical articles and article sections. I have had some success among articles of interest, although they are cut to one image on some pages on the grounds they slow article loading. This has been my experience at United States, History of the United States, United States Constitution, History of the United States Constitution. The multiple image seems to be a more consistent answer for most uses...I always prefer centering the descriptions. [[User:TheVirginiaHistorian|TheVirginiaHistorian]] ([[User talk:TheVirginiaHistorian|talk]]) 12:35, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
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:::Supposedly centering is the default.
:::Supposedly centering is the default.


:::Intentional but subtle nuance is an author's just desert, so [[WP:Performance|don't worry about performance]]. Besides, Lua modules like MI, unlike some older templates like DI, have no significant impact on performance. On the talk page you can mention the CPU time (below the edit box, expand the little triangle). E.g. U.S. will take 4.7 s every time. U.S. Constitution 2.3 s.&mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<font color="#00C000">Cp</font><font color="#80C000">i</font><font color="#C08000">r</font><font color="#C00000">al</font>]][[User talk:Cpiral|<font color="#2820F0">Cpiral</font>]] 17:15, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
:::Intentional but subtle nuance is an author's just desert, so [[WP:Performance|don't worry about performance]]. Besides, Lua modules like MI, unlike some older templates like DI, have no significant impact on performance. On the talk page you can mention the CPU time (below the edit box, expand the little triangle). E.g. U.S. will take 4.7 s every time. U.S. Constitution 2.3 s.&mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<span style="color:#00C000;">Cp</span><span style="color:#80C000;">i</span><span style="color:#C08000;">r</span><span style="color:#C00000;">al</span>]][[User talk:Cpiral|<span style="color:#2820F0;">Cpiral</span>]] 17:15, 1 September 2015 (UTC)


== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2015/50|Tech News: 2015-50]] ==
== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2015/50|Tech News: 2015-50]] ==
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Are we allowed to make subpages on Wikipedia? <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Farnell45|Farnell45]] ([[User talk:Farnell45|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Farnell45|contribs]]) 16:45, 20 January 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Are we allowed to make subpages on Wikipedia? <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Farnell45|Farnell45]] ([[User talk:Farnell45|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Farnell45|contribs]]) 16:45, 20 January 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:You can, but unlike making an edit, the creation cannot easily be undone. Once you create the pages named "User:Farnell45" "User:Farnell45'''/sandbox'''" and then "User:Farnell45/sandbox'''/A'''", you'd have to ask an administrator to remove "/A" if you wanted to clean it out.
:You can, but unlike making an edit, the creation cannot easily be undone. Once you create the pages named "User:Farnell45" "User:Farnell45'''/sandbox'''" and then "User:Farnell45/sandbox'''/A'''", you'd have to ask an administrator to remove "/A" if you wanted to clean it out.
: Be bold. Go ahead, click on [[User:Farnell45]], put the wikitext <kbd>{{tl|welcome}}[<nowiki />[/sandbox]]</kbd> there, and save the page. You will have transcluded the page named "Template:Welcome"; more to the point, you will have almost created a subpage on your user page. &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<font color="#00C000">Cp</font><font color="#80C000">i</font><font color="#C08000">r</font><font color="#C00000">al</font>]][[User talk:Cpiral|<font color="#2820F0">Cpiral</font>]] 20:19, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
: Be bold. Go ahead, click on [[User:Farnell45]], put the wikitext <kbd>{{tl|welcome}}[<nowiki />[/sandbox]]</kbd> there, and save the page. You will have transcluded the page named "Template:Welcome"; more to the point, you will have almost created a subpage on your user page. &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<span style="color:#00C000;">Cp</span><span style="color:#80C000;">i</span><span style="color:#C08000;">r</span><span style="color:#C00000;">al</span>]][[User talk:Cpiral|<span style="color:#2820F0;">Cpiral</span>]] 20:19, 20 January 2016 (UTC)


Are we allowed to keep them or will they be deleted?
Are we allowed to keep them or will they be deleted?
[[User:Farnell45|<font color="#00C000">Fa</font><font color="#80C000">r</font><font color="#C08000">r</font><font color="#C00000">nell45</font>]][[User talk:Farnell45|<font color="#2820F0">Farnell45</font>]] 20:24, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
[[User:Farnell45|<span style="color:#00C000;">Fa</span><span style="color:#80C000;">r</span><span style="color:#C08000;">r</span><span style="color:#C00000;">nell45</span>]][[User talk:Farnell45|<span style="color:#2820F0;">Farnell45</span>]] 20:24, 20 January 2016 (UTC)


:Widely tolerant, you can keep all you need for any fathomable excuse related to contributions. Occasionally user pages are patrolled. To delete your subpage, an administrator has to do it manually. They volunteer to do this, and they pass rigorous admissions. Put a delete because {{tl|db}} template on an unwanted subpage, and just wait. &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<font color="#00C000">Cp</font><font color="#80C000">i</font><font color="#C08000">r</font><font color="#C00000">al</font>]][[User talk:Cpiral|<font color="#2820F0">Cpiral</font>]] 21:39, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
:Widely tolerant, you can keep all you need for any fathomable excuse related to contributions. Occasionally user pages are patrolled. To delete your subpage, an administrator has to do it manually. They volunteer to do this, and they pass rigorous admissions. Put a delete because {{tl|db}} template on an unwanted subpage, and just wait. &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<span style="color:#00C000;">Cp</span><span style="color:#80C000;">i</span><span style="color:#C08000;">r</span><span style="color:#C00000;">al</span>]][[User talk:Cpiral|<span style="color:#2820F0;">Cpiral</span>]] 21:39, 20 January 2016 (UTC)




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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Farnell45
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Farnell45


:Yep. &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<font color="#00C000">Cp</font><font color="#80C000">i</font><font color="#C08000">r</font><font color="#C00000">al</font>]][[User talk:Cpiral|<font color="#2820F0">Cpiral</font>]] 00:02, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
:Yep. &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<span style="color:#00C000;">Cp</span><span style="color:#80C000;">i</span><span style="color:#C08000;">r</span><span style="color:#C00000;">al</span>]][[User talk:Cpiral|<span style="color:#2820F0;">Cpiral</span>]] 00:02, 10 February 2016 (UTC)




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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Farnell45 <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Farnell45|Farnell45]] ([[User talk:Farnell45|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Farnell45|contribs]]) 17:37, 16 February 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Farnell45 <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Farnell45|Farnell45]] ([[User talk:Farnell45|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Farnell45|contribs]]) 17:37, 16 February 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


:[[Wikipedia:NORULES|There are no rules]]. In practice, we each rule when we [[help:reverting|revert]] an edit. Or we call out on the talk page for reasoning about local content. Both are social skills. That being said, I will advise you on the content of your user page, but on [[user talk:farnell45|your talk page]]. &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<font color="#00C000">Cp</font><font color="#80C000">i</font><font color="#C08000">r</font><font color="#C00000">al</font>]][[User talk:Cpiral|<font color="#2820F0">Cpiral</font>]] 18:14, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
:[[Wikipedia:NORULES|There are no rules]]. In practice, we each rule when we [[help:reverting|revert]] an edit. Or we call out on the talk page for reasoning about local content. Both are social skills. That being said, I will advise you on the content of your user page, but on [[user talk:farnell45|your talk page]]. &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<span style="color:#00C000;">Cp</span><span style="color:#80C000;">i</span><span style="color:#C08000;">r</span><span style="color:#C00000;">al</span>]][[User talk:Cpiral|<span style="color:#2820F0;">Cpiral</span>]] 18:14, 16 February 2016 (UTC)


== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2016/04|Tech News: 2016-04]] ==
== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2016/04|Tech News: 2016-04]] ==
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:(It's the same concept as the working example/tutorial links at [[Help:Link#Subpage_links]], where that section links to subpage one/two/three/four.)
:(It's the same concept as the working example/tutorial links at [[Help:Link#Subpage_links]], where that section links to subpage one/two/three/four.)


:Thanks for inquiring. Soon, I'll check wp:wlh (and subpages, and talk pages) for further discussion. &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<font color="#00C000">Cp</font><font color="#80C000">i</font><font color="#C08000">r</font><font color="#C00000">al</font>]]&sect;[[User talk:Cpiral|<font color="#2820F0">Cpiral</font>]] 18:42, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
:Thanks for inquiring. Soon, I'll check wp:wlh (and subpages, and talk pages) for further discussion. &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<span style="color:#00C000;">Cp</span><span style="color:#80C000;">i</span><span style="color:#C08000;">r</span><span style="color:#C00000;">al</span>]]&sect;[[User talk:Cpiral|<span style="color:#2820F0;">Cpiral</span>]] 18:42, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
::As you wish, my preference would be to have as little double redirects as possible (preferably none) since it taxes on bot time. It is a very small tax (1-2 seconds per entry) but they pile up with added entries, particularly on multiple wikis. I run my bot to prevent double redirects to be an issue on practically every WMF wiki so double redirects should not be a realistic issue anywhere aside from cases bot cannot fix (circular redirects & page protections). --<small> [[User:とある白い猫/16|A Certain White Cat]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫/16|chi?]]</sup> 22:36, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
::As you wish, my preference would be to have as little double redirects as possible (preferably none) since it taxes on bot time. It is a very small tax (1-2 seconds per entry) but they pile up with added entries, particularly on multiple wikis. I run my bot to prevent double redirects to be an issue on practically every WMF wiki so double redirects should not be a realistic issue anywhere aside from cases bot cannot fix (circular redirects & page protections). --<small> [[User:とある白い猫/16|A Certain White Cat]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫/16|chi?]]</sup> 22:36, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
:::Hello, any progress on this? --<small> [[User:とある白い猫/16|A Certain White Cat]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫/16|chi?]]</sup> 16:29, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
:::Hello, any progress on this? --<small> [[User:とある白い猫/16|A Certain White Cat]]</small> <sup>[[User talk:とある白い猫/16|chi?]]</sup> 16:29, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
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:[[H:S]] talk page. That's where the action should be. Also [[mw:help talk:cirrussearch]].
:[[H:S]] talk page. That's where the action should be. Also [[mw:help talk:cirrussearch]].
: To answer your Q, the search term you need is a namespace. '''Category''' is a [[wp:namespace]]. You manually enter the namespace you want to search (must be the first term), and append a colon : character to it. OTOH, incategory is a category-namespace-only, category, whole-title, search, (unlike intitle, which is a word search that only looks at titles' words.) You can automate this by setting your default "search domain" (i.e. namespace or namespaces) to "category".
: To answer your Q, the search term you need is a namespace. '''Category''' is a [[wp:namespace]]. You manually enter the namespace you want to search (must be the first term), and append a colon : character to it. OTOH, incategory is a category-namespace-only, category, whole-title, search, (unlike intitle, which is a word search that only looks at titles' words.) You can automate this by setting your default "search domain" (i.e. namespace or namespaces) to "category".
: I'm glad you're interested. &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<font color="#00C000">Cp</font><font color="#80C000">i</font><font color="#C08000">r</font><font color="#C00000">al</font>]]&sect;[[User talk:Cpiral|<font color="#2820F0">Cpiral</font>]] 19:03, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
: I'm glad you're interested. &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<span style="color:#00C000;">Cp</span><span style="color:#80C000;">i</span><span style="color:#C08000;">r</span><span style="color:#C00000;">al</span>]]&sect;[[User talk:Cpiral|<span style="color:#2820F0;">Cpiral</span>]] 19:03, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
:: Thank you very much, Cpiral. I posted for further clarification in [[H:S]]. [[User:Hoverfish|Hoverfish]] <small>[[User talk:Hoverfish|Talk]]</small> 23:19, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
:: Thank you very much, Cpiral. I posted for further clarification in [[H:S]]. [[User:Hoverfish|Hoverfish]] <small>[[User talk:Hoverfish|Talk]]</small> 23:19, 18 July 2017 (UTC)


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Sounds like AWB can only perform ''its own'' searches from a required database dump. Is that right? If so can its search engine compete with the new CirrusSearch regular expressions of the wikitext?
Sounds like AWB can only perform ''its own'' searches from a required database dump. Is that right? If so can its search engine compete with the new CirrusSearch regular expressions of the wikitext?


Finally, does AWB have any in-class competitors (AWB script? WikEd?) that can do these robo-edits from a list like AWB can somehow do, but perhaps without the database dump or IE? I'm not complaining, really, keep up the fine work. Thanks. &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<font color="#00C000">Cp</font><font color="#80C000">i</font><font color="#C08000">r</font><font color="#C00000">al</font>]][[User talk:Cpiral|<font color="#2820F0">Cpiral</font>]] 06:34, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
Finally, does AWB have any in-class competitors (AWB script? WikEd?) that can do these robo-edits from a list like AWB can somehow do, but perhaps without the database dump or IE? I'm not complaining, really, keep up the fine work. Thanks. &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<span style="color:#00C000;">Cp</span><span style="color:#80C000;">i</span><span style="color:#C08000;">r</span><span style="color:#C00000;">al</span>]][[User talk:Cpiral|<span style="color:#2820F0;">Cpiral</span>]] 06:34, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
:You can copy and paste lists in to AWB's page list, you can also load a file the contains the list of articles. AWB can create a list from a database dump or by directly querying Wikipedia.- [[User:X201|X201]] ([[User talk:X201|talk]]) 07:57, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
:You can copy and paste lists in to AWB's page list, you can also load a file the contains the list of articles. AWB can create a list from a database dump or by directly querying Wikipedia.- [[User:X201|X201]] ([[User talk:X201|talk]]) 07:57, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
::Sounds hopeful. &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<font color="#00C000">Cp</font><font color="#80C000">i</font><font color="#C08000">r</font><font color="#C00000">al</font>]][[User talk:Cpiral|<font color="#2820F0">Cpiral</font>]] 18:15, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
::Sounds hopeful. &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<span style="color:#00C000;">Cp</span><span style="color:#80C000;">i</span><span style="color:#C08000;">r</span><span style="color:#C00000;">al</span>]][[User talk:Cpiral|<span style="color:#2820F0;">Cpiral</span>]] 18:15, 27 June 2015 (UTC)


:Are you actually searching for pages on the MediaWiki.org web site, or are you searching for pages on wikipedia.org? If you gave us the URL of a sample search, we could do a better job of helping you. [[User:Chris the speller|<font color="#C30">'''Chris'''</font>&nbsp;<font color="#060">'''the&nbsp;speller'''</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Chris the speller|<font color="#900"><sup>yack</sup></font>]] 02:26, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
:Are you actually searching for pages on the MediaWiki.org web site, or are you searching for pages on wikipedia.org? If you gave us the URL of a sample search, we could do a better job of helping you. [[User:Chris the speller|<span style="color:#C30;">'''Chris'''</span>&nbsp;<span style="color:#060;">'''the&nbsp;speller'''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Chris the speller|<span style="color:#900;"><sup>yack</sup></span>]] 02:26, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
::{{search link|insource:"ul a" prefix:user:c}} &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<font color="#00C000">Cp</font><font color="#80C000">i</font><font color="#C08000">r</font><font color="#C00000">al</font>]][[User talk:Cpiral|<font color="#2820F0">Cpiral</font>]] 18:15, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
::{{search link|insource:"ul a" prefix:user:c}} &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<span style="color:#00C000;">Cp</span><span style="color:#80C000;">i</span><span style="color:#C08000;">r</span><span style="color:#C00000;">al</span>]][[User talk:Cpiral|<span style="color:#2820F0;">Cpiral</span>]] 18:15, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Cpiral}} I give up. I tried using this in AWB as "Wikisearch (text)" after unchecking the menu item under "List" that says "Remove non-main space" and adjusting the article filter to allow "User:" namespace. No pages are found by AWB. I'm not totally surprised, as AWB's interface to CirrusSearch is a little weird. Have you tried using a forward slash (/) to surround the insource argument instead of double quotes? I didn't know that double quotes would work for that. Good luck! [[User:Chris the speller|<font color="#C30">'''Chris'''</font>&nbsp;<font color="#060">'''the&nbsp;speller'''</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Chris the speller|<font color="#900"><sup>yack</sup></font>]] 02:48, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
:::{{ping|Cpiral}} I give up. I tried using this in AWB as "Wikisearch (text)" after unchecking the menu item under "List" that says "Remove non-main space" and adjusting the article filter to allow "User:" namespace. No pages are found by AWB. I'm not totally surprised, as AWB's interface to CirrusSearch is a little weird. Have you tried using a forward slash (/) to surround the insource argument instead of double quotes? I didn't know that double quotes would work for that. Good luck! [[User:Chris the speller|<span style="color:#C30;">'''Chris'''</span>&nbsp;<span style="color:#060;">'''the&nbsp;speller'''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Chris the speller|<span style="color:#900;"><sup>yack</sup></span>]] 02:48, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
::::I'm up to speed on using [[mw:Help:CirrusSearch]], but I'm just starting to understand what AWB is. Like toolserver stuff, it shells the database directly? I don't know what internal APIs MediaWiki provides AWB or toolserver, if any, so I can't deYtermine AWB's abilities. It would seem that ''AWB javaScript'', would wrap the usual MediaWiki user interfaces passing edits to the edit box and searches to the search engine. &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<font color="#00C000">Cp</font><font color="#80C000">i</font><font color="#C08000">r</font><font color="#C00000">al</font>]][[User talk:Cpiral|<font color="#2820F0">Cpiral</font>]] 05:19, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
::::I'm up to speed on using [[mw:Help:CirrusSearch]], but I'm just starting to understand what AWB is. Like toolserver stuff, it shells the database directly? I don't know what internal APIs MediaWiki provides AWB or toolserver, if any, so I can't deYtermine AWB's abilities. It would seem that ''AWB javaScript'', would wrap the usual MediaWiki user interfaces passing edits to the edit box and searches to the search engine. &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<span style="color:#00C000;">Cp</span><span style="color:#80C000;">i</span><span style="color:#C08000;">r</span><span style="color:#C00000;">al</span>]][[User talk:Cpiral|<span style="color:#2820F0;">Cpiral</span>]] 05:19, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
:::::Yes, you're ahead of me on using CirrusSearch. I had forgotten that "insource" comes in two flavors. Good luck! [[User:Chris the speller|<font color="#C30">'''Chris'''</font>&nbsp;<font color="#060">'''the&nbsp;speller'''</font>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Chris the speller|<font color="#900"><sup>yack</sup></font>]] 13:24, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
:::::Yes, you're ahead of me on using CirrusSearch. I had forgotten that "insource" comes in two flavors. Good luck! [[User:Chris the speller|<span style="color:#C30;">'''Chris'''</span>&nbsp;<span style="color:#060;">'''the&nbsp;speller'''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Chris the speller|<span style="color:#900;"><sup>yack</sup></span>]] 13:24, 29 June 2015 (UTC)


:{{ping|Cpiral}} You may also want to look at [[WP:WPCleaner|WPCleaner]]. Happy editing! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 13:07, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
:{{ping|Cpiral}} You may also want to look at [[WP:WPCleaner|WPCleaner]]. Happy editing! [[User:GoingBatty|GoingBatty]] ([[User talk:GoingBatty|talk]]) 13:07, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
::Thank you. &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<font color="#00C000">Cp</font><font color="#80C000">i</font><font color="#C08000">r</font><font color="#C00000">al</font>]][[User talk:Cpiral|<font color="#2820F0">Cpiral</font>]] 18:15, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
::Thank you. &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<span style="color:#00C000;">Cp</span><span style="color:#80C000;">i</span><span style="color:#C08000;">r</span><span style="color:#C00000;">al</span>]][[User talk:Cpiral|<span style="color:#2820F0;">Cpiral</span>]] 18:15, 27 June 2015 (UTC)


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:to provide each search result with an edit link. &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<font color="#00C000">Cp</font><font color="#80C000">i</font><font color="#C08000">r</font><font color="#C00000">al</font>]]&sect;[[User talk:Cpiral|<font color="#2820F0">Cpiral</font>]] 00:03, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
:to provide each search result with an edit link. &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<span style="color:#00C000;">Cp</span><span style="color:#80C000;">i</span><span style="color:#C08000;">r</span><span style="color:#C00000;">al</span>]]&sect;[[User talk:Cpiral|<span style="color:#2820F0;">Cpiral</span>]] 00:03, 6 June 2018 (UTC)


== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2018/23|Tech News: 2018-23]] ==
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:Farnell, please try asking one of the two system administrators who have just recently posted on [[user talk:farnell45|your talk page]]. Review your ''entire'' talk page so you are prepared to answer specific questions with supportive answers. Learn how to use your [[help:talk|talk pages]] today, how to sign your communicating to create the all-important user and timestamp links that makes it all easier. Then address this sad issue with them.
:Farnell, please try asking one of the two system administrators who have just recently posted on [[user talk:farnell45|your talk page]]. Review your ''entire'' talk page so you are prepared to answer specific questions with supportive answers. Learn how to use your [[help:talk|talk pages]] today, how to sign your communicating to create the all-important user and timestamp links that makes it all easier. Then address this sad issue with them.
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:This is one of those opportunities to learn things about Wikipedia. If you love it, you will endure somehow. Don't feel bad. I've lost tons of stuff in one way or another. It goes with the territory. Happy editing! &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<font color="#00C000">Cp</font><font color="#80C000">i</font><font color="#C08000">r</font><font color="#C00000">al</font>]]&sect;[[User talk:Cpiral|<font color="#2820F0">Cpiral</font>]] 20:19, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
:This is one of those opportunities to learn things about Wikipedia. If you love it, you will endure somehow. Don't feel bad. I've lost tons of stuff in one way or another. It goes with the territory. Happy editing! &mdash; [[User:Cpiral|<span style="color:#00C000;">Cp</span><span style="color:#80C000;">i</span><span style="color:#C08000;">r</span><span style="color:#C00000;">al</span>]]&sect;[[User talk:Cpiral|<span style="color:#2820F0;">Cpiral</span>]] 20:19, 11 December 2018 (UTC)


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* Users who could cause more damage to the wikis if someone took over their account have to have more secure passwords. This includes administrators and other user groups. They can't use passwords that are in a list of common passwords. Accounts with common passwords are easy to take over. The list of common passwords was made longer a few weeks ago and has a different error message. Some user groups have been added to those who can't use common passwords. This is to protect all accounts with user rights that could cause damage. [https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/operations/mediawiki-config/+/481115/]
* Users who could cause more damage to the wikis if someone took over their account have to have more secure passwords. This includes administrators and other user groups. They can't use passwords that are in a list of common passwords. Accounts with common passwords are easy to take over. The list of common passwords was made longer a few weeks ago and has a different error message. Some user groups have been added to those who can't use common passwords. This is to protect all accounts with user rights that could cause damage. [https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/operations/mediawiki-config/+/481115/]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|Advanced item]] The [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:AbuseFilter|AbuseFilter]] variable <code>minor_edit</code> has been removed. It was deprecated in 2016. Now you can't use it. You can fix the filters using it. You can find them if you use the search bar on [[Special:AbuseFilter|Special:AbuseFilter]].
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|Advanced item]] The [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:AbuseFilter|AbuseFilter]] variable <code>minor_edit</code> has been removed. It was deprecated in 2016. Now you can't use it. You can fix the filters using it. You can find them if you use the search bar on [[Special:AbuseFilter|Special:AbuseFilter]].
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* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.33/wmf.13|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from January 15</div></div> <section end="technews-2019-W03"/> 17:54, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
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The Wikimedia Foundation is planning a [[mw:Talk pages consultation 2019|global consultation about communication]]. The goal is to bring Wikimedians and wiki-minded people together to improve tools for communication.
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'''Recent changes'''
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|Advanced item]] [[m:Toolforge|Toolforge]] hosts several tools created by the Wikimedia community like edit counters or enhanced editors. It is changing the domain from '''tools.wmflabs.org''' to '''toolforge.org'''. The routing scheme is moving from '''tools.wmflabs.org/toolname''' to '''toolname.toolforge.org'''. You can [[:wikitech:News/Toolforge.org|read the details]]. Tools that use OAuth will have to be updated to keep working. You can [[:wikitech:Help:Cloud_ Services Introduction|ask for help]].

'''Problems'''
* There is a Wikidata item link in the sidebar on many pages. This disappeared for a couple of days for users who have the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Skin:MonoBook|Monobook]] skin. This was because of a bug. It has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254485]
* Editing, logging in and logging out didn't work properly for a short period of time last week. It was soon fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255179]

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* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.35/wmf.37|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 June. It will be on all wikis from 18 June ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.35/Roadmap|calendar]]).

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* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|Advanced item]] [[:mw:Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Pywikibot|Pywikibot]] is a Python [[:w:en:Library (computing)|library]] to automate work on wikis. It will not support [[:w:en:Python (programming language)|Python 2]] after the new version in July. Support for Python 3.4 and MediaWiki below 1.19 will also be dropped. You should migrate to Python 3. You can [[:phab:T242120|ask for help]]. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/pywikibot-announce/2020-June/000015.html]
* The selectors <code>.menu</code> and <code>.vectorMenu</code> will no longer work in the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Skin:Vector|Vector]] skin. This can affect gadgets and user scripts. <code>.menu</code> should be replaced by <code>ul</code>. <code>.vectorMenu</code> should be replaced by <code>.vector-menu</code>. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254797]

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'''Problems'''
* There are some [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Growth|new tools]] to make it easier for newcomers to start editing. They are available on [https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=dblists/growthexperiments.dblist some wikis]. These wikis had a problem with the visual editor for a short period of time last week. This was because of a bug in the new tools. It was soon fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255607]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|Advanced item]] Some user scripts and gadgets stopped working because of a change to [[:w:en:CSS|CSS]] selectors. <code>.vectorTabs</code> should be replaced with <code>.vector-menu-tabs</code> to fix this. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255718]

'''Changes later this week'''
* The developers are working on a [[:m:WMDE Technical Wishes/Edit Conflicts#Edit conflicts on talk pages|new interface]] to solve edit conflicts on talk pages. This will be released on 24 June. You can [[mw:mw:Help talk:Paragraph-based Edit Conflict Interface|give feedback]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T230231]
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* A temporary fix helped wikis make their main pages more mobile friendly. This was in 2012. It has not been recommended since 2017. It will not work after 13 July. Wikis should use [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:TemplateStyles|TemplateStyles]] instead. 91 wikis still need to fix this. You can [[phab:T254287|read more and see if your wiki is affected]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254287]

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'''Problems'''
* Everyone was logged out. This was because a few users saw the wikis as if they were logged in to someone else's account. The problem should be fixed now. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2020-June/093543.html]
* Some readers didn't see new edits to pages. If the page had been recently changed they saw an older version of the page instead. This only affected readers who were logged out. It lasted for ten days. It has been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256444]

'''Changes later this week'''
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'''Problems'''
* The [[mw:Special:MyLanguageExtension:Score|Score]] extension has been disabled for now. This is because of a security issue. It will work again as soon as the security issue has been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257066]

'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.35/wmf.40|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 July. It will be on all wikis from 9 July ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.35/Roadmap|calendar]]).

'''Future changes'''
* Abstract Wikipedia is a new Wikimedia project. It will collect language-independent information that can be easily read in different languages. It builds on Wikidata. The name is preliminary. You can [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Abstract Wikipedia|read more]]. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2020-July/093571.html]
* The [[mw:Wikimedia Apps/Team/iOS|iOS Wikipedia app]] developers are thinking about new experimental tools. If you use an iPhone you can help them by [[mw:Wikimedia Apps/Team/iOS/2020 survey|answering the survey]].
* Some [[mw:New requirements for user signatures#Outcome|rules for user signatures]] will soon be enforced. [[Special:LintErrors|Lint errors]] and invalid HTML will no longer be allowed in user signatures. Nested substitution will not be allowed. A link to your user page, user talk page or user contributions will be required. You can [https://signatures.toolforge.org/check check if your signature works with the new rules]. This is because the signatures can cause problems for tools or other text on the page.

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'''Recent changes'''
* Users can [[mw:Extension:Thanks|thank]] others for their edits. [[mw:Extension:CheckUser|Checkusers]] can now see user data related to that action. This can help identify [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Sock puppetry|sock puppets]] who harass others using thanks. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252226]

'''Problems'''
* Everyone was logged out a couple of weeks ago to fix a security problem. The problem was not entirely fixed. Because of this everyone was logged out once again last week. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2020-June/093543.html][https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-ambassadors/2020-July/002327.html]

'''Changes later this week'''
* Wikis that are not for one specific language can [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Help:Extension:Translate|translate]] pages. Sometimes parts of translations are outdated or missing. Outdated translations are marked with a <span style="background-color:#fdd">pink background</span>. Missing translations will also be marked in the future. This markup can sometimes break things. It can soon be disabled by using <code><translate nowrap></translate></code> on the source page. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256625]
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.35/wmf.41|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 July. It will be on all wikis from 16 July ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.35/Roadmap|calendar]]).

'''Future changes'''
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|Advanced item]] Wikimedia code review plans to use [[:w:en:GitLab|GitLab]]. It would be hosted on Wikimedia servers. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2020-July/093577.html][https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Community_Newsletter/2020/July][https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Vpbt50rwxgb2r6qn][https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2020-July/093607.html]

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== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/30|Tech News: 2020-30]] ==

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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/30|Translations]] are available.

'''Recent changes'''
* A temporary fix helped wikis make their main pages more mobile friendly. This was in 2012. It has not been recommended since 2017. The mobile main page special casing stopped working 14 July. 60 wikis now have main pages that don't work well on mobile. You can see which ones, how to fix it and how to get help [[phab:T254287|in Phabricator]]. This is the same problem that was reported in Tech News [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/24|2020/24]] and [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/26|2020/26]].

'''Problems'''
* There is a problem with the interlanguage links. The interlanguage links are the links that help you find a specific page in a different language. The sorting is broken. The developers are working on a solution. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257625]
* Some users keep getting the notifications for the same event. Some of these are old events. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257714]
* Some users have trouble logging in. This is probably a [[:w:en:HTTP cookie|browser cookie]] problem. The developers are working on understanding the problem. If you have trouble logging in you can see the details [[phab:T258121|on Phabricator]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258121]

'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/wmf.1|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 July. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 July. It will be on all wikis from 23 July ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/Roadmap|calendar]]).

'''Future changes'''
* There is a <code>{{int:printableversion}}</code> link. This will disappear. That is because web browsers today can create a printable version or show how it will look in print anyway. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T167956]

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== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/31|Tech News: 2020-31]] ==

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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/31|Translations]] are available.

'''Recent changes'''
* The [[m:Small wiki toolkits/Starter kit|Starter kit]] is now available for wiki communities. This page lists technical resources, tools, and recommendations. These are essential to operate a wiki project. This is mostly useful for smaller wikis where the community has limited experience with this. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2020-July/093633.html]
* The first features of the [[mw:Reading/Web/Desktop Improvements|Desktop Improvements]] project are available for logged-in users on all wikis. In order to use them, uncheck ''{{int:prefs-vector-enable-vector-1-label}}'' in your [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering|local]] or [[Special:GlobalPreferences#mw-prefsection-rendering|global]] preferences in section ''{{int:prefs-skin-prefs}}''. More improvements are planned. [[mw:Talk:Reading/Web/Desktop Improvements|Feedback is welcome]].
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|Advanced item]] On multiple wikis, a UTCLiveClock gadget is available. For wikis that import the gadget [[:mw:MediaWiki:Gadget-UTCLiveClock.js|directly from mediawiki.org]], end users can now [[mw:MediaWiki_talk:Gadget-UTCLiveClock.js#Time_zones|choose a different timezone to show instead of UTC]].

'''Problems'''
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|Advanced item]] The deployment train for MediaWiki has been blocked this week. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2020-July/093640.html][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257969]
* Translation Notification Bot was sending the same message multiple times to every translator. This has been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144780]
* Some users were receiving the same notification multiple times. This has been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257766]

'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/wmf.2|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from July 28. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from July 29. It will be on all wikis from JUly 30 ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.35/Roadmap|calendar]]).

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== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/32|Tech News: 2020-32]] ==

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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/32|Translations]] are available.

'''Problems'''
* All queries to the [[mw:Wikidata Query Service|Wikidata Query Service]] failed between 17:50 and 17:59 UTC on Thursday 23 July. Some queries failed during a longer period. [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incident_documentation/20200723-wdqs-outage]
* Interlanguage links were ordered incorrectly for the past few weeks. This problem was also mentioned in [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/30|Tech News two weeks ago]]. The problem is now fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257625]
* There is a problem with the [[Special:GlobalPreferences#mw-prefsection-rendering|global preferences]] for the "{{int:prefs-vector-enable-vector-1-label}}" option. Developers are working on fixing it. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258493]
* A bug in the Wikibase extension had disabled the "move" and "create" types of protection in the main (Gallery) namespace on Wikimedia Commons. New protections could not be added, and existing protections were not enforced, allowing some page moves and page creations that should not have been possible. This has now been fixed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258323]

'''Changes later this week'''
* The [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Extension:TimedMediaHandler/VideoJS Player|video player]] will change to be simpler and more modern. This week, the current beta feature will become the video player for everyone on most non-Wikipedia wikis. The old player will be removed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T248418]
* Users' <code>global.js</code> and <code>global.css</code> pages will now also be loaded on the mobile site. You can read [[mw:Help:Extension:GlobalCssJs#Per-skin_customization|documentation]] for how to avoid applying styles to the mobile skin. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138727]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|Advanced item]] In the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Skin:MonoBook|MonoBook]] skin, the <code>searchGoButton</code> identifier is now <code>searchButton</code>. This may affect CSS and JS gadgets. Migration instructions can be found in [[phab:T255953|T255953]]. This was previously mentioned in [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/27|issue 27]].
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|Advanced item]] Bot operators can use Pywikibot to regularly archive discussions. The behavior when the bot uses <code>counter</code> to prevent large archives was changed. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T215247]
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/wmf.3|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from August 4. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from August 5. It will be on all wikis from August 6 ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/Roadmap|calendar]]).

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== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/33|Tech News: 2020-33]] ==

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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/33|Translations]] are available.

'''Recent changes'''
* [[m:WMDE_Technical_Wishes/Move_files_to_Commons|FileImporter and FileExporter]] became standard features on all Wikis during the first week of August. They help you transfer files from local wikis to Wikimedia Commons with the original file information and history intact. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140462]

'''Problems'''
* The mobile skin displays a message at the bottom of the page about who edited last. This message showed raw wikitext. This has now been fixed. Some messages in [[mw:Structured Discussions|Structured Discussions]] and [[mw:Content translation|content translation]] may still appear as raw wikitext. Developers are working on it. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T259565]

'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/wmf.4|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from August 11. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from August 12. It will be on all wikis from August 13 ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/Roadmap|calendar]]).

'''Future changes'''
* All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on September 1. This is planned between 13:30 and 15:30 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis in the coming weeks. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T243314][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244808]

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== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/34|Tech News: 2020-34]] ==

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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/34|Translations]] are available.

'''Recent changes'''
* If you revert an edit using the undo link your edit is marked with an <code>undo</code> tag. This will now only happen if you don't change anything in the edit window before publishing the undo. This is to keep users from marking edits as undos when they actually do something else. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T259014]
* The new [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/OOUI|OOUI version]] will not work with [[:w:en:Internet Explorer 8|Internet Explorer 8]]. This means the wikis will look strange and not work well in Internet Explorer 8. This was reported in [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/17|Tech/News/2020/17]]. This is because keeping the wikis working with very old browsers creates other problems. [https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2020-August/093718.html]

'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/wmf.5|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 August. It will be on all wikis from 20 August ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/Roadmap|calendar]]).

'''Future changes'''
* All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on September 1. This is planned between 13:30 and 15:30 UTC. More information will be published in Tech News and will also be posted on individual wikis next week. This is a reminder. You can help by [[m:Tech/Server switch 2020|translating the announcement message]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T243314][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244808]

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</div></div> <section end="technews-2020-W34"/> 20:41, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
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== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/35|Tech News: 2020-35]] ==

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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/35|Translations]] are available.

'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/wmf.6|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 August. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 August. It will be on all wikis from 27 August ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/Roadmap|calendar]]).

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== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/36|Tech News: 2020-36]] ==

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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/36|Translations]] are available.

'''Problems'''
* This is a reminder. All wikis will be read-only for a few minutes on September 1. This is planned between 14:00 and 15:00 UTC. Please check on the details on [[m:Tech/Server switch 2020|the announcement message]]. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T243314][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T244808]

'''Changes later this week'''
* There is no new MediaWiki version this week.

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== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/37|Tech News: 2020-37]] ==

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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/37|Translations]] are available.

'''Changes later this week'''
* Normally pages can be moved to a title that has no existing page yet or to a page that has only one revision, which is a redirect to the page to be moved. A new user right allows editors to move pages over one-revision pages that redirect to anywhere. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T239277]
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/wmf.8|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 8 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 9 September. It will be on all wikis from 10 September ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/Roadmap|calendar]]).
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|Advanced item]] All MediaWiki [[:w:en:API|API]] modules will now use <code>watchlist</code> instead of <code>watch</code>. This was inconsistent before. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T247915]

'''Future changes'''
* The [[mw:Wikimedia Apps/Team/Android|Wikipedia Android app]] team might work on patrolling tools in the future. You can let them know what tools would be useful for you or for less experienced patrollers. See the [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Wikimedia Apps/Team/Android/Patrolling conversation|page on mediawiki.org]].
* [[m:Special:MyLanguage/OTRS|OTRS]] will be updated to a new version. This will probably take around two days. OTRS agents will not have access to the system during these days. Emails that come in during the update will be delivered when the update is done. The plan is to start around 08:00 UTC on 14 September. This could change. [https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187984]
* The Wikipedia Android app will send [[:mw:Wikimedia Apps/Team/Android/AppEditorTasks#Push Notifications for editors|push notifications]] if users want them. This could help you see for example when someone wrote on your talk page or your edit was reverted. This will need [[:w:en:Google Play Services|Google Play Services]] to work. It will also be possible to get the app without Google Play Services but push notifications will not work. Google Play Services is also used to make the app work for [[:w:en:Android KitKat|Android 4.4]] users. [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Apps/Team/Android#Updates][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146032]
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|Advanced item]] Wikimedia code review could move to [[:w:en:GitLab|GitLab]]. It would be hosted on Wikimedia servers. You can take part in the [[mw:GitLab consultation|consultation]].
* [[File:Octicons-tools.svg|15px|link=|Advanced item]] Dropdown menus in [[mw:Special:MyLanguage/Skin:Vector|the Vector skin]] use a <code>.menu</code> class. This will not work in the future. Scripts can use <code>nav ul</code> instead. <code>.vectorTabs</code> and <code>.vectorMenu</code> will also not work. Some scripts need to be updated. You can [[phab:T262092|read more in Phabricator]].

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</div></div> <section end="technews-2020-W37"/> 15:59, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
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== [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/38|Tech News: 2020-38]] ==

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Latest '''[[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News|tech news]]''' from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. [[m:Special:MyLanguage/Tech/News/2020/38|Translations]] are available.

'''Problems'''
* The [[mw:Wikimedia Apps|Wikipedia apps]] briefly showed pages without [[w:en:CSS|CSS]] last week. This meant they looked wrong. It was quickly fixed but cached pages without CSS were shown for a few hours. [https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Incident_documentation/20200909-mobileapps_config_change][https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262437]

'''Changes later this week'''
* [[File:Octicons-sync.svg|12px|link=|Recurrent item]] The [[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/wmf.9|new version]] of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 15 September. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 16 September. It will be on all wikis from 17 September ([[mw:MediaWiki 1.36/Roadmap|calendar]]).

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Hi, thanks for signing up at Wikipedia:Meetup/Seattle/Wiknic/2015. The picnic is a potluck, so on the signup page please say what food or drink you are planning to bring. Thanks! --Pine 04:07, 1 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, weather update for Wiknic: the forecast is now for 91 degrees and a high UV index. Peaceray is bringing icewater, but everyone do please take appropriate precautions for the weather, such as sunscreen, hats, sunglasses, and staying hydrated. There will be some shade in the trees. It's ok for those of us who are more temperature and/or sunlight sensitive to come but leave early, or skip the event if you think that you should; people who are very young, elderly, or have other health issues are more vulnerable to heat stroke. Health and safety first. Cheers, --Pine 15:05, 2 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Help:Template

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Please stop changing Help:Template. It is very difficult to make much sense of what you have been writing. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:00, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Redrose, I'm sorry. Maybe it should have been a proposal on the talk page. I am already in the process of rewriting it based on your earlier feedback in the edit summary. Thank you for all your patience. — CpiralCpiral 22:10, 24 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Deprecated double image

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I note the change to using a multiple image versus the "deprecated" double image at Jefferson Davis. Is there a technical reason why the double image is deprecated? If so, I'll stop using it. Thanks. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 08:03, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No. You can keep using it. Here's the deal. Double image just calls multiple image. Double image has been deleted a while back, and all that's left in its place is its emulator: {{multiple image}}. Take a look at {{multiple image}} documentation and decide for yourself how you proceed. Don't resort to using other obsolete workarounds because of the old double image, but otherwise it should be technically fine to keep using. I changed one use of Double image out because it was using the obsolete <center>...</center> tags, probably because it had to when it was written. — CpiralCpiral 08:44, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I very much enjoy finding double images, rarely triple images, to convey nuance in historical articles and article sections. I have had some success among articles of interest, although they are cut to one image on some pages on the grounds they slow article loading. This has been my experience at United States, History of the United States, United States Constitution, History of the United States Constitution. The multiple image seems to be a more consistent answer for most uses...I always prefer centering the descriptions. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 12:35, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Supposedly centering is the default.
Intentional but subtle nuance is an author's just desert, so don't worry about performance. Besides, Lua modules like MI, unlike some older templates like DI, have no significant impact on performance. On the talk page you can mention the CPU time (below the edit box, expand the little triangle). E.g. U.S. will take 4.7 s every time. U.S. Constitution 2.3 s.— CpiralCpiral 17:15, 1 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Are we allowed to make subpages on Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Farnell45 (talkcontribs) 16:45, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You can, but unlike making an edit, the creation cannot easily be undone. Once you create the pages named "User:Farnell45" "User:Farnell45/sandbox" and then "User:Farnell45/sandbox/A", you'd have to ask an administrator to remove "/A" if you wanted to clean it out.
Be bold. Go ahead, click on User:Farnell45, put the wikitext {{welcome}}[[/sandbox]] there, and save the page. You will have transcluded the page named "Template:Welcome"; more to the point, you will have almost created a subpage on your user page. — CpiralCpiral 20:19, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Are we allowed to keep them or will they be deleted? Farrnell45Farnell45 20:24, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Widely tolerant, you can keep all you need for any fathomable excuse related to contributions. Occasionally user pages are patrolled. To delete your subpage, an administrator has to do it manually. They volunteer to do this, and they pass rigorous admissions. Put a delete because {{db}} template on an unwanted subpage, and just wait. — CpiralCpiral 21:39, 20 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Did I do this right?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Farnell45

Yep. — CpiralCpiral 00:02, 10 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Does any of this violate any of the rules here?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Farnell45 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Farnell45 (talkcontribs) 17:37, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

There are no rules. In practice, we each rule when we revert an edit. Or we call out on the talk page for reasoning about local content. Both are social skills. That being said, I will advise you on the content of your user page, but on your talk page. — CpiralCpiral 18:14, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, what is the purpose of this page that Wikipedia:Example of a double redirect fails to fulfill? -- A Certain White Cat chi? 19:37, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

About Help:What links here/double rdcheck and Help talk:What links here: these are meant to help teach, by working example/tutorial, What Links Here reports. It is incomplete because no exception was made for allowing a double redirect to even exist as an example/tutorial.
(It's the same concept as the working example/tutorial links at Help:Link#Subpage_links, where that section links to subpage one/two/three/four.)
Thanks for inquiring. Soon, I'll check wp:wlh (and subpages, and talk pages) for further discussion. — Cpiral§Cpiral 18:42, 19 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
As you wish, my preference would be to have as little double redirects as possible (preferably none) since it taxes on bot time. It is a very small tax (1-2 seconds per entry) but they pile up with added entries, particularly on multiple wikis. I run my bot to prevent double redirects to be an issue on practically every WMF wiki so double redirects should not be a realistic issue anywhere aside from cases bot cannot fix (circular redirects & page protections). -- A Certain White Cat chi? 22:36, 19 October 2016 (UTC)
Hello, any progress on this? -- A Certain White Cat chi? 16:29, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

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Hi Cpiral, I see you wrote the help pages on Searching/Features. I will ask here, but if this is not the right place, please let me know where to ask instead. Is there any syntax that can be used in connection with incategory:[name of category] search so that instead of the whole [name of category], ANY category that contains in its name TERM_A AND TERM_B AND TERM_C can be called? I am not good in terminology, and know only basic RegEx for text editing, so here is one example: suppose I want to find all comedies of director Scorsese. Now, there is a very clear category for all Scorsese films, BUT Category:Comedy films, or even Category:American comedy films, have been broken down to so many subcategories as to make any attempt of incategory search futile. However all the subcategories we need to search, do conatin the term "comedy", or to filter narrower, both "American" AND "comedy". It would be great if one could enter: incategor:Films directed by Scorsese with incategory: "American" AND "comedy" (or some regex syntax to this effect). It would save the day for many problems of categorization we face in WP Films (and not only) and maybe for the public too. Thank you for your attention. Hoverfish Talk 23:27, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

H:S talk page. That's where the action should be. Also mw:help talk:cirrussearch.
To answer your Q, the search term you need is a namespace. Category is a wp:namespace. You manually enter the namespace you want to search (must be the first term), and append a colon : character to it. OTOH, incategory is a category-namespace-only, category, whole-title, search, (unlike intitle, which is a word search that only looks at titles' words.) You can automate this by setting your default "search domain" (i.e. namespace or namespaces) to "category".
I'm glad you're interested. — Cpiral§Cpiral 19:03, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much, Cpiral. I posted for further clarification in H:S. Hoverfish Talk 23:19, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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I noticed an unanswered question of yours from way back...

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See below...

Can AWB edit the list of titles on a search results page?

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I hear hopeful things, but after looking through the manual, I don't see the functionality I'm looking for.

I want to edit every page on a MediaWiki search results page. Can AWB do that? If not, can it accept a list of titles I generate from such a search results page? And if so, will it auto-edit every page (after I press yes on a Show Changes screen)?

Sounds like AWB can only perform its own searches from a required database dump. Is that right? If so can its search engine compete with the new CirrusSearch regular expressions of the wikitext?

Finally, does AWB have any in-class competitors (AWB script? WikEd?) that can do these robo-edits from a list like AWB can somehow do, but perhaps without the database dump or IE? I'm not complaining, really, keep up the fine work. Thanks. — CpiralCpiral 06:34, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You can copy and paste lists in to AWB's page list, you can also load a file the contains the list of articles. AWB can create a list from a database dump or by directly querying Wikipedia.- X201 (talk) 07:57, 26 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds hopeful. — CpiralCpiral 18:15, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Are you actually searching for pages on the MediaWiki.org web site, or are you searching for pages on wikipedia.org? If you gave us the URL of a sample search, we could do a better job of helping you. Chris the speller yack 02:26, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
insource:"ul a" prefix:user:cCpiralCpiral 18:15, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Cpiral: I give up. I tried using this in AWB as "Wikisearch (text)" after unchecking the menu item under "List" that says "Remove non-main space" and adjusting the article filter to allow "User:" namespace. No pages are found by AWB. I'm not totally surprised, as AWB's interface to CirrusSearch is a little weird. Have you tried using a forward slash (/) to surround the insource argument instead of double quotes? I didn't know that double quotes would work for that. Good luck! Chris the speller yack 02:48, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I'm up to speed on using mw:Help:CirrusSearch, but I'm just starting to understand what AWB is. Like toolserver stuff, it shells the database directly? I don't know what internal APIs MediaWiki provides AWB or toolserver, if any, so I can't deYtermine AWB's abilities. It would seem that AWB javaScript, would wrap the usual MediaWiki user interfaces passing edits to the edit box and searches to the search engine. — CpiralCpiral 05:19, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you're ahead of me on using CirrusSearch. I had forgotten that "insource" comes in two flavors. Good luck! Chris the speller yack 13:24, 29 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Cpiral: You may also want to look at WPCleaner. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 13:07, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. — CpiralCpiral 18:15, 27 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

SearchSuite can help. It can show search results as page names only, one per line. It also can sort the result. And applicable to using AWB on the results, it can add wikiformatting for links, which makes the whole list ready to copy/paste into a wiki-editor.

So, to do what you wanted above, you'd install the SearchSuite script, do your search, click the menu items to the format desired, and copy/paste the results to a sandbox. Then use the "Links on page" feature of AWB's list maker to input the list from the sandbox into AWB.

I hope that helps.    — The Transhumanist   21:21, 3 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You are most helpful. I'm now using
$( function() {
	'use strict';
	if ( mw.config.get( 'wgCanonicalSpecialPageName' ) === 'Search' ) {
		$( '.mw-search-result-heading a' ).each( function() {
			$( this ).after( '<span class="searchedit"> [<a href="' + $( this ).attr( 'href' ) + '?action=edit">edit</a>]</span>' );
		} );
	}

} );
to provide each search result with an edit link. — Cpiral§Cpiral 00:03, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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My Sandbox

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Someone deleted my sandbox just as I was editing it. Can you please help me get this reversed?

Farnell, please try asking one of the two system administrators who have just recently posted on your talk page. Review your entire talk page so you are prepared to answer specific questions with supportive answers. Learn how to use your talk pages today, how to sign your communicating to create the all-important user and timestamp links that makes it all easier. Then address this sad issue with them.
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Much thanks for all the regex doc you contributed, mostly in 2015 I think, that I'm finding at places like Help:Searching/Regex, Template:Template usage/doc, and pretty much all over. This is *highly* appreciated. If you ever questioned whether it was worth all the effort and if anybody was benefiting from all that work you did, rest assured that the answer is a resounding *yes* to both. I consider myself an intermediate to advanced regex user outside of WP (familiar with stuff like negative lookahead, etc.) and that's a great foundation for using it here, but the picture at WP is sufficiently different that the doc is really required; and of course, the templates are a whole, 'nother layer on top of that. This is really very helpful (and I have a feeling I'm only discovering the tip of the iceberg), and even though it was a long time ago, it continues to be really useful (and I'm probably just the tip of the iceberg of users that it is benefiting). So, a big 'Thanks' for all your effort on regular expression documentation at Wikipedia! Mathglot (talk) 20:17, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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