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== Question regarding title on the kings ==

I will write this guessing you can read Korean. 왕의 이름을 넣을 때 고려, 조선에서는 중국 왕조처럼 태조, 태종, 세종과 같이 묘효 (temple name) 을 일반적인 명칭으로 사용하나 고구려, 백제는 다른데, 이럴 경우 후대 (고려시절로 추정되는) 만들어진 명칭을 사용하는 것이 옳다고 봅니까? 아니면 최대한 당시 (고구려 시절) 사용된 명칭을 사용해야 한다고 봅니까? 묘효를 따를 경우 동명성왕이 맞고, 역사적 배경과 실재 고구려에 사용된 표기는 추모, 추모왕, 추모성왕인데, 어떤 쪽으로 하는 것이 맞다고 생각하시나요? 더불어 고구려는 중국이 자칭 문명의 중심 (중화) 라는 걸 인정하지도 않은 국가라서 중국 식으로 묘효를 따를 필요가 있는지도 의문이고요. What's the Wikipedia rule on naming the king? Do you know any? [[User:Kadrun|Kadrun]] ([[User talk:Kadrun|talk]]) 06:44, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

Here's evidence that the highest title Chumo had during the time of Goguryeo was the Holy.<ref>{{Cite web|title=모두루묘지(牟頭婁墓誌) - 한국민족문화대백과사전|url=http://encykorea.aks.ac.kr/Contents/Item/E0018463|access-date=2021-09-11|website=encykorea.aks.ac.kr}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|title=한국사데이터베이스|url=http://db.history.go.kr/item/level.do?setId=1&totalCount=1&itemId=gskh&synonym=off&chinessChar=on&page=1&pre_page=1&brokerPagingInfo=&position=0&levelId=gskh_001_0020_0050_0080&searchKeywordType=BI&searchKeywordMethod=EQ&searchKeyword=%EC%B6%94%EB%AA%A8%EC%84%B1%EC%99%95&searchKeywordConjunction=AND#gskh_001_0020_0050_0080_0007_|access-date=2021-09-11|website=db.history.go.kr}}</ref>

: Hi Kadrun. Please see [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (royalty and nobility)]]. I think the key point is "most common form of the name used in reliable sources in English". [[User:Bamnamu|Bamnamu]] ([[User talk:Bamnamu#top|talk]]) 21:24, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

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== Religion in korea ==

Why you change my revision? Actually No religion in Korean mean non formal religion. And other religion like Protestanism, Buddhism and Catholicsm is formal religion. I mean 56,1% Korean people is non formal religion and practical Korean belief like Korean Buddhism, Confucianism and Korean Shamanism. [[User:Cahyand|Cahyand]] ([[User talk:Cahyand|talk]]) 03:59, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

"No religion" in korean is not enough for describe mean Korean religion. [[User:Cahyand|Cahyand]] ([[User talk:Cahyand|talk]]) 04:01, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

: No, "no religion" means no religion.[https://kosis.kr/statHtml/statHtml.do?orgId=101&tblId=DT_1PM1502][https://translate.google.com/?sl=ko&tl=en&text=%EC%A2%85%EA%B5%90%EC%97%86%EC%9D%8C&op=translate] [[User:Bamnamu|Bamnamu]] ([[User talk:Bamnamu#top|talk]]) 04:43, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

They re still practical Korean religion culture even they re not formal organization. Then how you explain, Korean funeral for "no religion" ? Korean Buddhism, Confucianism, and Shamanism don't need formal istitution. That what i said Korean folk religion same as like in china and vietnam. [[User:Cahyand|Cahyand]] ([[User talk:Cahyand|talk]]) 06:08, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

: Please [[WP:PROVEIT|prove it]]. Thank you. [[User:Bamnamu|Bamnamu]] ([[User talk:Bamnamu#top|talk]]) 06:55, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_South_Korea please read more this article. Only 12% people in Korean that said they re atheist. Someone muat change and explain more detail about no religion in south Korea. [[User:Cahyand|Cahyand]] ([[User talk:Cahyand|talk]]) 07:55, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

: Please read [[WP:UGC]]. [[User:Bamnamu|Bamnamu]] ([[User talk:Bamnamu#top|talk]]) 08:00, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
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Why did you make this [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template%3AJoseon_caste_system&oldid=prev&diff=1189305733] revert? The bullet points on the last two seem out of place—[[user:blindlynx|blindlynx]] 01:27, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

:''Cheonmin'' encompassed ''nobi'' and ''baekjeong''. [[User:Bamnamu|Bamnamu]] ([[User talk:Bamnamu#top|talk]]) 04:01, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
::that is in no way made clear with the bullets. consier:

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I will write this guessing you can read Korean. 왕의 이름을 넣을 때 고려, 조선에서는 중국 왕조처럼 태조, 태종, 세종과 같이 묘효 (temple name) 을 일반적인 명칭으로 사용하나 고구려, 백제는 다른데, 이럴 경우 후대 (고려시절로 추정되는) 만들어진 명칭을 사용하는 것이 옳다고 봅니까? 아니면 최대한 당시 (고구려 시절) 사용된 명칭을 사용해야 한다고 봅니까? 묘효를 따를 경우 동명성왕이 맞고, 역사적 배경과 실재 고구려에 사용된 표기는 추모, 추모왕, 추모성왕인데, 어떤 쪽으로 하는 것이 맞다고 생각하시나요? 더불어 고구려는 중국이 자칭 문명의 중심 (중화) 라는 걸 인정하지도 않은 국가라서 중국 식으로 묘효를 따를 필요가 있는지도 의문이고요. What's the Wikipedia rule on naming the king? Do you know any? Kadrun (talk) 06:44, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Here's evidence that the highest title Chumo had during the time of Goguryeo was the Holy.[1][2]

Hi Kadrun. Please see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (royalty and nobility). I think the key point is "most common form of the name used in reliable sources in English". Bamnamu (talk) 21:24, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Why you change my revision? Actually No religion in Korean mean non formal religion. And other religion like Protestanism, Buddhism and Catholicsm is formal religion. I mean 56,1% Korean people is non formal religion and practical Korean belief like Korean Buddhism, Confucianism and Korean Shamanism. Cahyand (talk) 03:59, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"No religion" in korean is not enough for describe mean Korean religion. Cahyand (talk) 04:01, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, "no religion" means no religion.[1][2] Bamnamu (talk) 04:43, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

They re still practical Korean religion culture even they re not formal organization. Then how you explain, Korean funeral for "no religion" ? Korean Buddhism, Confucianism, and Shamanism don't need formal istitution. That what i said Korean folk religion same as like in china and vietnam. Cahyand (talk) 06:08, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please prove it. Thank you. Bamnamu (talk) 06:55, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irreligion_in_South_Korea please read more this article. Only 12% people in Korean that said they re atheist. Someone muat change and explain more detail about no religion in south Korea. Cahyand (talk) 07:55, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:UGC. Bamnamu (talk) 08:00, 15 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Korean clan names of Japanese origin has been nominated for renaming

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Category:Korean clan names of Mongolian origin has been nominated for renaming

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Category:Korean clan names of Vietnamese origin has been nominated for renaming

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Go ahead. Bamnamu (talk) 09:00, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Joseon caste system

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Hey, Why did you make this [3] revert? The bullet points on the last two seem out of place—blindlynx 01:27, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Cheonmin encompassed nobi and baekjeong. Bamnamu (talk) 04:01, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
that is in no way made clear with the bullets. consier:
Joseon caste system
Class Hangul Hanja Meaning
Yangban 양반 兩班 two classes of rulers
Jungin 중인 中人 middle people
Sangmin 상민 常民 commoners
Cheonmin 천민 賤民 lowborn
Baekjeong 백정 白丁 untouchables
Nobi 노비 奴婢 slaves (or "serfs")

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