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Add the criticism Karine Jean-Pierre has faced over her comments comparing pro-Palestinian protests against the Israeli State to the "Unite the Right" neo-nazi march that took place in Charlottesville in 2017, in the section concerning criticisms of her.

"When recently asked about whether “anti-Israel protesters” were extremists, Jean-Pierre conflated protest against Israel with antisemitism and pivoted to talk about white supremacists who marched in Charlottesville, Virginia, saying the White House also condemned those neo-Nazis" Ref: https://theintercept.com/2023/11/02/karine-jean-pierre-israel-netanyahu-aipac/ 2A02:587:E905:8C00:CDD6:549B:BB32:B481 (talk) 21:13, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit semi-protected}} template. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:14, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is a double standard here

there is a continued / pesistent denial of edit requests here to include material similar to what is included in other BLP of like people. Read this one and then tell me I'm wrong...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Huckabee_Sanders

Inclusions in this BLP are consistently less relevant to the person and are weakly sourced. Helpingtoclarify (talk) 23:21, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This addition was weekly sourced; a single Axios source mentioned tension, and the rest of it was WP:SYNTH. To add an entire section on the "tension" you'd need better sourcing than that, per WP:WEIGHT. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 23:33, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On WP:SYNTH it was clear the Axios story talks about the tension, the transcript then has Kirby denying the issueboth source inline with these sentences. The Ron Klain sentence is from the Axios article but does not need to be re cited.

This should be included. Instead of denying relevant details, help to improve it. Isn't that what you are here to do? Helpingtoclarify (talk) 07:03, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is the talk page for discussing KJP's article, and no other article. I agree with Jamie's removal. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:44, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to included it someplace else in her Biden admin career. There are other sourcess (I already included two, here is a third - https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/29/karine-jean-pierre-debut-stumbles-00043328).

The reason I noted the other press secretary bio is to contrast the different application of sourcing and inclusion of minute details. This conflict with kirby is well worthy of inclusion if compared to this other bio. Helpingtoclarify (talk) 06:55, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What's in another article does not dictate what should be in this article. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 15:33, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You didn't respond to why we don’t add this elsewhere in her bio. It’s widely reported and weight is given to both sides. Please respond to that. Helpingtoclarify (talk) 00:02, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest you work in something resembling edit requests, being sure to provide BLP-quality references to support the requests. --Hipal (talk) 00:08, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Whos daughter is the kid?

This artile lefts it unclear who of the partners is the mother. The daughter looks black-like so, can we say it is Karine who is the mother? Is there information about biological father? Reciprocist (talk) 20:31, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Per the cited source, the child was adopted. I believe the current level of information in the article is appropriate, but perhaps others disagree with me. Happy Friday. Dumuzid (talk) 22:05, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Typo correction needed

Middle paragraph of the section on Biden Administration: Jean-Pierre said that she had BEEN told the phrasing was acceptable 2601:282:8980:E1B0:1CEF:DFEE:7B2:46EE (talk) 19:57, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Good catch. Thanks. A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 20:43, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong Andrew Bates

The Andrew Bates link in her infobox refers to a deceased businessman, not the current White House Deputy Press Secretary. 2600:4041:335:CE00:7556:1D7:478E:D4B7 (talk) 16:42, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You are correct and I removed the wikilink. Thanks for noticing and mentioning it. Cullen328 (talk) 16:47, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No mention of dual nationality?

Should there be a clarification as to whether in addition to American citizenship, she also holds Haitian (Jus Sanguinis) due to parentage, and/or French citizenship (Jus Soli) due to birth in Martinique, France? 203.46.132.214 (talk) 03:18, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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-== Updating Partner Name ==
-Ms. Jean-Pierre has asked that Suzanne Malveaux's be removed as her partner on the page, as this is no longer the case. I work as her webmaster, and she has asked me personally to have it removed. Please feel free to reach out for further verification. [[User:Mspikes82|Mspikes82]] ([[User talk:Mspikes82|talk]]) 18:26, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
-:{{yo|Mspikes82}} have any reliable sources covered the split? [[User:Firefangledfeathers|Firefangledfeathers]] ([[User talk:Firefangledfeathers|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/Firefangledfeathers|contribs]]) 14:33, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
-== "LGBT person" is very confusing ==
-"LGBT person" is very confusing. Does it mean she (or he?) is a lesbian? A straight transsexual? Or a lesbian transsexual? Something else? As far as I understand it, being "LGBT person" is not a thing but rather a collection of things, where not all of them necessarily apply at the same time. Hopefully someone can clarify this. [[User:Robert1dB|Robert1dB]] ([[User talk:Robert1dB|talk]]) 20:51, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
-:A LGBT person is very much a thing. I could consider myself falling in all four categories, really. But it likely means she is the first person under the LGBTQ+ umbrella as a whole to have that job. '''''[[User:LilianaUwU|<span style="font-family:default;color:#246BCE;">Liliana</span><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;color:#FF1493;">UwU</span>]]''''' <sup>([[User talk:LilianaUwU|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/LilianaUwU|contributions]])</sup> 20:56, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
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 ::::You didn't respond to why we don’t add this elsewhere in her bio. It’s widely reported and weight is given to both sides. Please respond to that. [[User:Helpingtoclarify|Helpingtoclarify]] ([[User talk:Helpingtoclarify|talk]]) 00:02, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
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+== Whos daughter is the kid? ==
+This artile lefts it unclear who of the partners is the mother. The daughter looks black-like so, can we say it is Karine who is the mother? Is there information about biological father? [[User:Reciprocist|Reciprocist]] ([[User talk:Reciprocist|talk]]) 20:31, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
+:Per the cited source, the child was adopted.  I believe the current level of information in the article is appropriate, but perhaps others disagree with me.  Happy Friday. [[User:Dumuzid|Dumuzid]] ([[User talk:Dumuzid|talk]]) 22:05, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
+== Typo correction needed ==
+Middle paragraph of the section on Biden Administration:
+Jean-Pierre said that she had BEEN told the phrasing was acceptable [[Special:Contributions/2601:282:8980:E1B0:1CEF:DFEE:7B2:46EE|2601:282:8980:E1B0:1CEF:DFEE:7B2:46EE]] ([[User talk:2601:282:8980:E1B0:1CEF:DFEE:7B2:46EE|talk]]) 19:57, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
+: Fixed. Good catch. Thanks. [[User:A. Randomdude0000|A. Randomdude0000]] ([[User talk:A. Randomdude0000|talk]]) 20:43, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
+== Wrong Andrew Bates ==
+The Andrew Bates link in her infobox refers to a deceased businessman, not the current White House Deputy Press Secretary. [[Special:Contributions/2600:4041:335:CE00:7556:1D7:478E:D4B7|2600:4041:335:CE00:7556:1D7:478E:D4B7]] ([[User talk:2600:4041:335:CE00:7556:1D7:478E:D4B7|talk]]) 16:42, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
+:You are correct and I removed the wikilink. Thanks for noticing and mentioning it. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 16:47, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
+== No mention of dual nationality? ==
+Should there be a clarification as to whether in addition to American citizenship, she also holds Haitian (Jus Sanguinis) due to parentage, and/or French citizenship (Jus Soli) due to birth in Martinique, France? [[Special:Contributions/203.46.132.214|203.46.132.214]] ([[User talk:203.46.132.214|talk]]) 03:18, 8 November 2024 (UTC)