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I wonder why Irma Grese was such horrible person. Is it true that she was a victim of the war. I am not a symperthizer of Nazis. But I fell really sorry for this young lady and even more sorry for the all the jews killed in the war. If she had been born in a peace time she not only would had lived a normal life by becoming a lover, wife and a mother but also would shown great courage and bravery in her work. It is indeed sad she treated jewish prisoners with animilistic treatment. It is very sad that she choses children to be gassed. But my view is that she should have been spared from hanging as she was a minor and a teenager at the time of the crime occured. (Irshad Cassim - Sri Lanka)
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It seems perfectly obvious that she was a depraved psychopath. Obviously, in peace time her behaviour would soon have landed her in jail and on the block. - Norvo, 00:08 UTC, 18 June 2006
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It's probably true that Irma Grese would have led a normal life if not for the war. But It's difficult to have sympathy for someone so cruel, especially considering her alleged collection of lampshades. It has been suggested that she was a nymphonanic, but according to the morality of the time, this may merely have meant she had a high sex drive. If she was mentally ill, she should have been spared. I have also read that her story inspired the Moors murderer Myra Hindley. Does anyone know if there's any truth in this?


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Irma Grese was a simple farm girl who became a postal clerk at Belsen. Does anyone believe a girl this beautiful would bed with some lice ridden camp criminals? [http://www.cwporter.com/heroic.htm Short biography]
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Portions of this article appear to be copied verbatim from [http://judicial-inc.biz/Irma_Grese_by_redirect.htm]. Also, the web page from which the text is taken appears very sympathetic to her and the Nazis in general. [[User:66.30.14.1|66.30.14.1]] 09:14, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
:This is indeed something to consider. That website seems to be either pro-Nazi, holocaust-denying, or both. [[User:JHMM13|JHMM13]] ([[User talk:JHMM13|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/JHMM13|C]]) [[Image:Flag of the United States.svg|25px|<nowiki></nowiki>]] [[Image:Flag of Germany.svg|25px|<nowiki></nowiki>]] 00:14, 16 April 2006 (UTC)


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== Post-liberation Interview ==
I read this article for research a few months ago and whilst the early parts appear the same, most of the latter half appears to have been substantially re-edited in her favour, as well as certain other statements (eg. the executioner's suicide) which didn't appear in the earlier article at all. It is also interesting that none of this supposedly verifiable information is referenced in any way.
Both Grese and [[Josef Kramer|Kramer]] were interrogated shortly after the camp's liberation by [[Eric Brown (pilot)|Eric Brown]], who spoke fluent German, and who had been asked to do so by [[Hugh Llewellyn Glyn Hughes|Glyn Hughes]]. His opinion of them is on his linked article page.<!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/95.149.53.190|95.149.53.190]] ([[User talk:95.149.53.190#top|talk]]) 17:35, 15 March 2018</small>


[[Eric Brown (pilot)|Eric Brown]] did not go into much detail on Grese and [[Josef Kramer|Kramer]] in his book ''Wings on My Sleeve'', other than describing Grese as "the worst human being I have ever met." As of 2024-11-20, YouTube has a documentary on Brown. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32_BliefkGw Soviet Aircraft of WW2 | Legendary Test Pilot Eric Winkle Brown Talks About Soviet Planes] discusses Soviet aircraft that he flew, followed by his full career, and quite a lot of interviews. About 48 minutes in, he discusses the Belsen concentration camp in some detail, followed by a fairly detailed interview of Irma Grese. Is this usable as a source? [[User:JHowardGibson|JHowardGibson]] ([[User talk:JHowardGibson|talk]]) 19:24, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
DG, Leeds, UK
===War Crimes?===
Framed by "...hysterical Jewesses that wanted blood" ? The whole section is neo-Nazi claptrap.

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Even without knowing the true facts, anyone can see that the last paragraph on the subject of Irma Grese is Nazi Propaganda. Get rid of it!


Edited as of 10/8/06 into more or less the same state it was in previously - which, oddly, did include the bit about the ghost.

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===Ghost Story===
I don't know where the ghost story regarding Krema 3 came from with the night watchman in 1948 - all the gas chambers and crematoria were destroyed by the guards (other than one blown up by prisoners) in 1945

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Both Grese and Kramer were interrogated shortly after the camp's liberation by Eric Brown, who spoke fluent German, and who had been asked to do so by Glyn Hughes. His opinion of them is on his linked article page.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.149.53.190 (talk) 17:35, 15 March 2018

Eric Brown did not go into much detail on Grese and Kramer in his book Wings on My Sleeve, other than describing Grese as "the worst human being I have ever met." As of 2024-11-20, YouTube has a documentary on Brown. Soviet Aircraft of WW2 | Legendary Test Pilot Eric Winkle Brown Talks About Soviet Planes discusses Soviet aircraft that he flew, followed by his full career, and quite a lot of interviews. About 48 minutes in, he discusses the Belsen concentration camp in some detail, followed by a fairly detailed interview of Irma Grese. Is this usable as a source? JHowardGibson (talk) 19:24, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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