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== Requested move 16 November 2024 == |
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:''The following is a closed discussion of a [[Wikipedia:Requested moves|requested move]]. <span style="color: var(--color-error, red);">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a [[Wikipedia:move review|move review]] after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.'' |
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The result of the move request was: '''not moved.''' <small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Closure by a page mover|closed by non-admin page mover]])</small> [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[She (pronoun)|she]]/[[Singular they|they]]) 04:45, 23 November 2024 (UTC) |
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[[:Kentaro Ito (actor, born 1997)]] → {{no redirect|Kentaro Ito (actor)}} – This Article is for the television/film actor while the other is for the voice & stage actor, I'm fairly sure that whoever is searching them up won't confuse the two for each other. So I personally don't think there was a need for the hyper specific birth year disambiguator. Secondly, it already has a hatnote above directing to the voice actor [[Kentarō Itō]] and vice versa. Hence the title redirect, [[Kentaro Ito (actor, born 1997)]] should be removed and/or deleted. [[User:Turniner|Turniner]] ([[User talk:Turniner|talk]]) 03:33, 16 November 2024 (UTC) |
[[:Kentaro Ito (actor, born 1997)]] → {{no redirect|Kentaro Ito (actor)}} – This Article is for the television/film actor while the other is for the voice & stage actor, I'm fairly sure that whoever is searching them up won't confuse the two for each other. So I personally don't think there was a need for the hyper specific birth year disambiguator. Secondly, it already has a hatnote above directing to the voice actor [[Kentarō Itō]] and vice versa. Hence the title redirect, [[Kentaro Ito (actor, born 1997)]] should be removed and/or deleted. [[User:Turniner|Turniner]] ([[User talk:Turniner|talk]]) 03:33, 16 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:While the other article is at [[Kentarō Itō]], the macrons do not actually disambiguate (the names are homophonous and the macrons could be equally well applied to this person; the Japanese characters used for the names are identical). The move from [[Kentaro Ito (actor)]] to [[Kentaro Ito (actor, born 1997)]] could simply be reverted under [[WP:RMUM]], but on the merits I believe [[User:Necrothesp|Necrothesp]] is correct that partial disambiguation is inadequate here. For what it's worth, the Japanese-language articles disambiguate according to the type of acting and neither is at the base title there. [[User:Dekimasu|Dekimasu]]<small>[[User talk:Dekimasu|よ!]]</small> 04:46, 16 November 2024 (UTC) |
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::"Japanese-language articles disambiguate according to the type of acting.." I see your point, if that's the case then how about changing the title to Kentaro Ito (film actor) instead? The one @[[User:Necrothesp|Necrothesp]] renamed it with is sort of.. at least in my opinion, too long for just two individuals who so happens to have the same/identical name, maybe if it were 3-5 individuals then yeah sure. [[User:Turniner|Turniner]] ([[User talk:Turniner|talk]]) 08:52, 16 November 2024 (UTC) |
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* '''Oppose''' This isn't how disambiguation works. If both are actors, then neither can get the title (actor), barring exceptional circumstances. Also retarget [[Kenaro Ito (actor)]] to [[Kenaro Ito]]. (film actor) has the same problem - [[Kentarō Itō#Filmography]] says to me that both are film actors. [[User:Pppery|* Pppery *]] [[User talk:Pppery|<sub style="color:#800000">it has begun...</sub>]] 16:52, 16 November 2024 (UTC) |
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*'''Oppose''' per Pppery and per comment by Dekimasu. To take the nomination to its extreme, the streamlining can simply extend to eliminating any parenthetical qualifier and have [[Kentaro Ito]] and [[Kentarō Itō]], with the already existing hatnotes adjusted so that each points to the other. While on the subject, if an editor were to submit a nomination for [[Kentarō Itō]] → [[Kentaro Ito (actor, born 1974)]], paired with a [[Kentaro Ito]] disambiguation page listing both men, I would '''support''' such a proposal. As for the diacritics, [[Kentaro Ito (actor, born 1974)]] does not use them on his [https://www.facebook.com/itoken.kshow Facebook page] or on his [https://mausu.net/talent/ito-kentaro.html Mausu promotion profile.] —[[User:Roman Spinner|'''Roman Spinner''']] <small>[[User talk:Roman Spinner|(talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Roman Spinner|contribs)]]</small> 17:14, 16 November 2024 (UTC) |
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*'''Oppose'''. Both are clearly actors. I would also '''support''' [[Kentarō Itō]] → [[Kentaro Ito (actor, born 1974)]]. -- [[User:Necrothesp|Necrothesp]] ([[User talk:Necrothesp|talk]]) 08:46, 18 November 2024 (UTC) |
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*:*'''Support''' for both the Kentaro Ito's to have their birth years in the title. [[Kentarō Itō]]→[[Kentaro Ito (actor, born 1974)]]. |
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*:[[User:Turniner|Turniner]] ([[User talk:Turniner|talk]]) 02:52, 23 November 2024 (UTC) |
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*'''Comment'''. There is a move discussion at [[Talk:Kentarō Itō#Requested move 16 November 2024]]. [[User:Theparties|Theparties]] ([[User talk:Theparties|talk]]) 01:07, 22 November 2024 (UTC) |
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*:*'''Support''' |
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*:[[User:Turniner|Turniner]] ([[User talk:Turniner|talk]]) 02:53, 23 November 2024 (UTC) |
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 | On 16 November 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Kentaro Ito (actor). The result of the discussion was not moved. |
Requested move 16 November 2024
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) JJPMaster (she/they) 04:45, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
Kentaro Ito (actor, born 1997) → Kentaro Ito (actor) – This Article is for the television/film actor while the other is for the voice & stage actor, I'm fairly sure that whoever is searching them up won't confuse the two for each other. So I personally don't think there was a need for the hyper specific birth year disambiguator. Secondly, it already has a hatnote above directing to the voice actor Kentarō Itō and vice versa. Hence the title redirect, Kentaro Ito (actor, born 1997) should be removed and/or deleted. Turniner (talk) 03:33, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- While the other article is at Kentarō Itō, the macrons do not actually disambiguate (the names are homophonous and the macrons could be equally well applied to this person; the Japanese characters used for the names are identical). The move from Kentaro Ito (actor) to Kentaro Ito (actor, born 1997) could simply be reverted under WP:RMUM, but on the merits I believe Necrothesp is correct that partial disambiguation is inadequate here. For what it's worth, the Japanese-language articles disambiguate according to the type of acting and neither is at the base title there. Dekimasuよ! 04:46, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- "Japanese-language articles disambiguate according to the type of acting.." I see your point, if that's the case then how about changing the title to Kentaro Ito (film actor) instead? The one @Necrothesp renamed it with is sort of.. at least in my opinion, too long for just two individuals who so happens to have the same/identical name, maybe if it were 3-5 individuals then yeah sure. Turniner (talk) 08:52, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose This isn't how disambiguation works. If both are actors, then neither can get the title (actor), barring exceptional circumstances. Also retarget Kenaro Ito (actor) to Kenaro Ito. (film actor) has the same problem - Kentarō Itō#Filmography says to me that both are film actors. * Pppery * it has begun... 16:52, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose per Pppery and per comment by Dekimasu. To take the nomination to its extreme, the streamlining can simply extend to eliminating any parenthetical qualifier and have Kentaro Ito and Kentarō Itō, with the already existing hatnotes adjusted so that each points to the other. While on the subject, if an editor were to submit a nomination for Kentarō Itō → Kentaro Ito (actor, born 1974), paired with a Kentaro Ito disambiguation page listing both men, I would support such a proposal. As for the diacritics, Kentaro Ito (actor, born 1974) does not use them on his Facebook page or on his Mausu promotion profile. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 17:14, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. Both are clearly actors. I would also support Kentarō Itō → Kentaro Ito (actor, born 1974). -- Necrothesp (talk) 08:46, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support for both the Kentaro Ito's to have their birth years in the title. Kentarō Itō→Kentaro Ito (actor, born 1974).
- Turniner (talk) 02:52, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. There is a move discussion at Talk:Kentarō Itō#Requested move 16 November 2024. Theparties (talk) 01:07, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support
- Turniner (talk) 02:53, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.