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== Episode Posters == |
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Unfortunatly unlike every other season 5 episode, the posters for [[Namaste (Better Call Saul)|Namaste]] and [[Something Unforgivable]] wasn't uploaded to Instagram. If anyone else knows of another place to find them that would be great. [[User:FishandChipper|FishandChipper]] [[User_talk:FishandChipper|🐟]][[Special:Contributions/FishandChipper|🍟]] 15:50, 8 October 2022 (UTC) |
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== Rich or Rick == |
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:{{ping|FishandChipper}} Found them for you: |
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I get [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Smoke_%28Better_Call_Saul%29&type=revision&diff=1078890372&oldid=1078886936 reverted] by [[User:Some Dude From North Carolina]] for changing Rick Schweikart to Rich Schweikart, even though in most articles it's clearly Rich. So which one?? We need consistency here. [[User:Geanard|Geanard]] ([[User talk:Geanard|talk]]) 10:58, 26 March 2022 (UTC) |
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:Something Unforgivable: https://www.facebook.com/BetterCallSaulAMC/photos/pb.100044363232727.-2207520000/3014291121941167/ |
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: {{re|Geanard}} His name is Rich but he's credited as Rick in the closing credits. [[User:Some Dude From North Carolina|Some Dude From North Carolina]] ([[User talk:Some Dude From North Carolina|talk]]) 15:20, 26 March 2022 (UTC) |
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:Namaste (This may be tricky): https://twitter.com/bettercallsaul/status/1237151258718453762 [[User:Flowerkiller1692|Flowerkiller1692]] ([[User talk:Flowerkiller1692|talk]]) 09:14, 29 December 2023 (UTC) |
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::: {{re|Geanard}} [[MOS:TV]] says we should go by credits or common name. I think it would be better to have "Rick" in the infobox and "Richard" everywhere else. [[User:Some Dude From North Carolina|Some Dude From North Carolina]] ([[User talk:Some Dude From North Carolina|talk]]) 22:44, 26 March 2022 (UTC) |
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== Good Topic – 2022 == |
== Good Topic – 2022 == |
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Replacing this [[User:FishandChipper|FishandChipper]] [[User_talk:FishandChipper|🐟]][[Special:Contributions/FishandChipper|🍟]] 12:56, 15 October 2022 (UTC) |
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Feel free to update along the way. [[User:Some Dude From North Carolina|Some Dude From North Carolina]] ([[User talk:Some Dude From North Carolina|talk]]) 02:55, 18 April 2022 (UTC) |
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== This is conjecture == |
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No offence to the editor, but the sentence, '''''Kim's departure is too much for Jimmy to handle and he fully transforms into Saul Goodman'' '''is purely conjecture on behalf of the editor. We don't know her departure is what made him go ''full Saul Goodman''. He was already being Saul Goodman. What actually happened in the episode, after the breakup, the show fast-forwards to an unspecified time where Jimmy has fully embraced being Saul Goodman, with the mansion, his famous Cadillac DeVille, custom license plate, women, new Breaking Bad style office, etc. Yes, after the time jump he is the Saul Goodman of the Breaking Bad era. Can we really decide if it was the breakup that made him go that extreme? There is a lot of time missing between the breakup and the mansion owning Saul Goodman shown at the end. He had to get his hands on money. As far as we know, his portion of the Sandpiper settlement made him go greedy hog wild and he had no one, like Kim, to reign him in into stability. In closing, nothing in the episode confirms or even suggests it was the breakup that caused him to go full Saul. That is purely an opinion or conclusion formed on the basis of incomplete information. I'm not going to edit that phrase as I think we should discuss it. I think it should be changed to reflect what it showed at the end without conjecture. Any thoughts? That is my two cents. [[User:P37307|P37307]] ([[User talk:P37307|talk]]) 12:00, 25 July 2022 (UTC) |
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== timeline for the earlier Gene scenes == |
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Do we know for SURE that the Gene scenes prior to the last few episodes took place after the Breaking Bad finale? We know they take place after Granite State. But the finale was several months later and they never really let on when the Gene events were taking place. How long he had been in Omaha. Only the Gene events in the final season suggest it was after Walt's death. But we don't know about the earlier parts. [[Special:Contributions/69.112.239.6|69.112.239.6]] ([[User talk:69.112.239.6|talk]]) 10:21, 10 August 2022 (UTC) |
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== Should add Neo Noir to the genre. == |
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The show is neo noir similar to how Breaking Bad is neo western. Not only it has the characteristics and writing of the genre, but it also has the cinematography and direction. Not to mention a lot of episodes are literally in black and white. |
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Don’t know how to edit, so I’ll just suggest it here. [[Special:Contributions/188.236.163.28|188.236.163.28]] ([[User talk:188.236.163.28|talk]]) 12:03, 21 August 2022 (UTC) |
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:Got a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] for your suggestion? – [[User:Muboshgu|Muboshgu]] ([[User talk:Muboshgu#top|talk]]) 16:12, 21 August 2022 (UTC) |
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Episode Posters
[edit]Unfortunatly unlike every other season 5 episode, the posters for Namaste and Something Unforgivable wasn't uploaded to Instagram. If anyone else knows of another place to find them that would be great. FishandChipper 🐟🍟 15:50, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
- @FishandChipper: Found them for you:
- Something Unforgivable: https://www.facebook.com/BetterCallSaulAMC/photos/pb.100044363232727.-2207520000/3014291121941167/
- Namaste (This may be tricky): https://twitter.com/bettercallsaul/status/1237151258718453762 Flowerkiller1692 (talk) 09:14, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
Good Topic – 2022
[edit]Replacing this FishandChipper 🐟🍟 12:56, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
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