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== ambiguous "Fractional derivative of a basic power function" section hiding the most important formula ==
==Untitled==
This is a large and multi-faceted topic.
This will be the mother-page for a large section.
Here's a rough outline:

#Introduction
#History
#Semiotic base
##Differintegrals
###Riemann-Liouville
###Grunwald-Lietnikov
###Weyl
###Interpretation
##Relation to Standard Transformations
###Laplace transform
###Fourier transform
##Properties and Techniques
###General Properties
###Differintegration of some special functions
#Geometric structure of
##Relation to Diffusion
###anomalous(non-fickian) diffusion
###fractional brownian motion
##Relation to Fractals & Chaos Theory
#Advanced topics
##Multiple-order differintegration
###extraordinary differential equations
###partial fractional derivatives
##Special Forms of Fractional Calculus
###Initialized fractional calculus
###Local fractional derivative(LFD)
##Morphological(Synthesis of Structure and Change) aspects
###fractional reaction-diffusion equations
###fractional calculus in continuum mechanics
###fractal operators
#Applications of Fractional Calculus
##Mathematics
##Physics
##Engineering
#Contemporary Trends in Fractional Calculus

And, ofcourse, I am open to suggestions. I will, however, be stubborn on there being a 'geometric structure of' section, in whatever form. I hope this helps get this moving.

-[[User:Kevin_baas]] 2003.05.06

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I think some of that may be hard to swallow for an undergraduate math student. (Minor note: fractional calculus deals with complex numbered orders of differintegration as well.) Charles, thank you very much for your contributions to this page! I've been waiting for someone besides me to work in this area. :) [[User:Kevin baas|Kevin Baas]] 19:33, 16 April 2004 (UTC)

OK - let me explain that I was working today on the basis of the half-page article in the big Soviet mathematical encyclopedia. So it's not going to look like a tutorial, at this point.

[[User:Charles Matthews|Charles Matthews]] 19:42, 16 April 2004 (UTC)

== Alternative version ==
This page used to be quite different. The current and the older version both have their advantages. I invite contributors to look at the older version [[/alternative|here]], and combine the best of both worlds, while making the article more in line with the protocols agreed to on the WikiProject Mathematics pages. [[User:Kevin baas|Kevin Baas]] | [[User_talk:Kevin_baas|talk]] 19:56, 24 September 2004 (UTC)

I think it would also be helpful to point out that we now have pages on [[functional calculus]] and [[pseudo-differential operator]], that contribute significantly to the context; and, less obviously, there is material on the [[Sobolev space]] page that also uses fractional differentiation, defined via [[Fourier transform]].

[[User:Charles Matthews|Charles Matthews]] 20:56, 24 September 2004 (UTC)


AFAIK (and understand from the text), the last part of this section starting with "For a general function f(x)" is really about any kind of f() and not only for f() being a basic power function, as expected by the section title.
:Kevin, are you done with the page or is this work in progress? [[User:Gadykozma|Gadykozma]] 23:25, 24 September 2004 (UTC)


Also, this general formula is probably the most important part of this page since it explain how to practically compute it (when you don't want to do it in Fourier or Laplace space ).
::This page, or the alternative? Every page is a work in progress. The version here is primarily Charles Matthews', the alternative version is primarily mine, before charles radically altered the page. Why do you ask? [[User:Kevin baas|Kevin Baas]] | [[User_talk:Kevin_baas|talk]] 02:19, 25 September 2004 (UTC)


So I guess it should deserve its own paragraph. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Fabrice.Neyret|Fabrice.Neyret]] ([[User talk:Fabrice.Neyret#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Fabrice.Neyret|contribs]]) 17:40, 9 May 2022 (UTC)</span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I'm afraid I cannot add much mathematical intuition beyond what I anyway wrote under [[Sobolev space]]. Editorially, I only think that it's better to start with modest goals (i.e. the current article) and expand the article step by step. Here it is also important to keep in sync with [[Differintegral]] so that there won't be any unnecessary duplication of material. [[User:Gadykozma|Gadykozma]] 02:49, 25 September 2004 (UTC)


:I take issue with this section, but not for the same reasons you do. This wording implies that this is ''the'' way of computing the fractional derivative of a power function, which it is not. There are many different fractional derivatives as detailed in the later in the page under "Fractional integrals" and "Fractional derivative" and they do not follow this form. As well as saying that was ''the'' general formula for fractional derivatives is also misleading if not false. The formula in this section is pretty much the same as the Riemann-Liouville fractional integral.
==complicated?==
:I do however think that it would make more sense if it were tweaked and moved as a "Special case of basic power functions" section in the [[Riemann%E2%80%93Liouville_integral]] article.
"Unfortunately the comparable process for the derivative operator ''D'' is significantly more complex..." really? The one in [http://mathworld.wolfram.com/FractionalDerivative.html Mathworld] isn't especially complicated in concept; integrate up the fraction (integration being so tidy) then differentiate down:
:Same with the Laplace transform section. I think it can be moved the Riemann-Liouvile integral article as motivation for it's definition alongside the Cauchy repeated integral rule. [[User:Coffeevector|Coffeevector]] ([[User talk:Coffeevector|talk]]) 06:52, 2 September 2022 (UTC)
:<math>D^\mu=D^mI^{m-\mu}</math> with integer <math>m\ge\mu>0</math>
Y'don't even have to use the least ''m''. [[User:Kwantus|Kwantus]] 01:18, 2 July 2005 (UTC)


== Which character does the article use for the index of differentiation? ==
With ''m'' restricted to the least value, [http://www.nd.edu/~msen/Teaching/UnderRes/FracCalc.pdf Loverro] p11 calls that the Lefthand form and the reverse <math>D^\mu=I^{m-\mu}D^m</math> the Righthand or Caputo form. The latter is apparently more practical, producing 0 for constant functions and working better in DEs. [[User:Kwantus|Kwantus]] 18:17, 2 July 2005 (UTC)


The nice illustration with caption "The animation shows the derivative operator oscillating ..."
== External links modified ==
appears to use a Greek lowercase alpha for the index, whereas the article appears to use a Roman lowercase A. (Unless my eyes are deceiving me.)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,


It's probably best if they both use the same character, especially because the caption does not define the meaning of that character but assumes it is understood. [[Special:Contributions/2601:200:C000:1A0:9D6A:3426:156B:13FB|2601:200:C000:1A0:9D6A:3426:156B:13FB]] ([[User talk:2601:200:C000:1A0:9D6A:3426:156B:13FB|talk]]) 23:36, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
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== Two equivalent definitions of Caputo fractional derivative ==
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There seem to be two equivalent definitions given of the Caputo fractional derivative, one using {{math|α}} and one using {{math|ν}}, which is confusing. One of them should be removed. Since {{math|α}} seems to be used consistently throughout the article, I would suggest removing the definition that uses {{math|ν}}. Some editing of the surrounding text will also be required. [[User:Benjamin Rich|Benjamin Rich]] ([[User talk:Benjamin Rich|talk]]) 15:10, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
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== Proposal for the Addition of Information on Fractional Operators ==
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'''Considering the following references:'''
== Machado derivative ==
I don't understand why we mention the Machado derivative and then assert, "(This derivative does not exist anywhere in the literature)." If the derivative doesn't exist, why is it in the article? And is it true that it doesn't exist? Machado is indeed an author of papers on fractional calculus. [[User:Centibyte|<span style="font-family: 'Lucida Console', Monaco, monospace">Centibyte</span>]][[User talk:Centibyte|<sup><span style="color: dimgray; font-family: 'Courier New', Courier, monospace">(talk)</span></sup>]] 17:04, 3 October 2018 (UTC)


Acceleration of the order of convergence of a family of fractional fixed-point methods and its implementation in the solution of a nonlinear algebraic system related to hybrid solar receivers <ref>{{Cite journal|url=https://doi.org/10.1016/j.amc.2022.127231|title=Acceleration of the order of convergence of a family of fractional fixed-point methods and its implementation in the solution of a nonlinear algebraic system related to hybrid solar receivers|first1=A.|last1=Torres-Hernandez|first2=F.|last2=Brambila-Paz|first3=R.|last3=Montufar-Chaveznava|date=September 29, 2022|journal=Applied Mathematics and Computation|volume=429|pages=127231|doi=10.1016/j.amc.2022.127231|arxiv=2109.03152 }}</ref>
== Reference to paper of Caputo-Fabrizio ==


Sets of Fractional Operators and Numerical Estimation of the Order of Convergence of a Family of Fractional Fixed-Point Methods <ref>{{Cite journal|title=Sets of Fractional Operators and Numerical Estimation of the Order of Convergence of a Family of Fractional Fixed-Point Methods|first1=A.|last1=Torres-Hernandez|first2=F.|last2=Brambila-Paz|date=December 29, 2021|journal=Fractal and Fractional|volume=5|issue=4|pages=240|doi=10.3390/fractalfract5040240|doi-access=free }}</ref>
In the section ''Caputo-Fabrizio fractional derivative'' there is no reference to the mentioned paper.
I report here all details I know, but I don't know how to add them to the page, please someone can do it? Thank you.


The details of the paper are the following:
'''Would it be possible to add the following information on fractional operators?'''


{{reflist-talk}}
* Title: A new Definition of Fractional Derivative without Singular Kernel
* Authors: Michele Caputo and Mauro Fabrizio
* Journal: Progress in Fractional Differentiation and Applications
* Journal abbreviation: Progr. Fract. Differ. Appl.
* DOI: 10.12785/pfda/010201 (WARNING: DOI is wrong)
* Volume: 1
* Issue: 2
* Pages: 73-85
* Year: 2015


== Set <math>O_{x,\alpha}^n(h)</math> of Fractional Operators ==
References for these information can be found on the journal website<br/>
http://www.naturalspublishing.com/ContIss.asp?IssID=255


Fractional calculus, a branch of mathematics dealing with derivatives of non-integer order, emerged nearly simultaneously with traditional calculus. This emergence was partly due to Leibniz's notation for derivatives of integer order: <math>\frac{d^n}{dx^n}</math>. Thanks to this notation, L'Hopital was able to inquire in a letter to Leibniz about the interpretation of taking <math>n = \frac{1}{2}</math> in a derivative. At that moment, Leibniz couldn't provide a physical or geometric interpretation for this question, so he simply replied to L'Hopital in a letter that "... is an apparent paradox from which, one day, useful consequences will be drawn". The name "fractional calculus" originates from a historical question, as this branch of mathematical analysis studies derivatives and integrals of a certain order <math>\alpha \in \mathbb{R}</math>. Currently, fractional calculus lacks a unified definition of what constitutes a fractional derivative. Consequently, when the explicit form of a fractional derivative is unnecessary, it is typically denoted as follows: {{center|1=<math>\frac{d^\alpha}{dx^\alpha}. </math>}} Fractional operators have various representations, but one of their fundamental properties is that they recover the results of traditional calculus as <math>\alpha \to n</math>. Considering a scalar function <math>h: \mathbb{R}^m \to \mathbb{R}</math> and the canonical basis of <math>\mathbb{R}^m</math> denoted by <math>\{\hat{e}_k\}_{k \geq 1}</math>, the following fractional operator of order <math>\alpha</math> is defined using [[Einstein notation]] <ref>[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0898122102002109 Einstein summation for multidimensional arrays]</ref>: {{center|1=<math> o_x^\alpha h(x) := \hat{e}_k o_k^\alpha h(x). </math>}} Denoting <math>\partial_k^n</math> as the partial derivative of order <math>n</math> with respect to the <math>k</math>-th component of the vector <math>x</math>, the following set of fractional operators is defined: <div style="text-align: center;"> <math> O_{x,\alpha}^n(h) := \left\{ o_x^\alpha : \exists o_k^\alpha h(x) \text{ and } \lim_{\alpha \to n} o_k^\alpha h(x) = \partial_k^n h(x) \ \forall k \geq 1 \right\}, </math> </div> with its complement: <div style="text-align: center;"> <math> O_{x,\alpha}^{n,c}(h) := \left\{ o_x^\alpha : \exists o_k^\alpha h(x) \ \forall k \geq 1 \text{ and } \lim_{\alpha \to n} o_k^\alpha h(x) \neq \partial_k^n h(x) \text{ for at least one } k \geq 1 \right\}. </math> </div> Consequently, the following set is defined: {{center|1=<math> O_{x,\alpha}^{n,u}(h) := O_{x,\alpha}^{n}(h) \cup O_{x,\alpha}^{n,c}(h). </math>}}
This is the full text of the paper<br/>
http://www.naturalspublishing.com/files/published/0gb83k287mo759.pdf


=== Extension to Vectorial Functions ===
The paper is indexed in Scopus:<br/>
https://www.scopus.com/record/display.uri?eid=2-s2.0-85051078999&origin=resultslist


For a function <math>h: \Omega \subset \mathbb{R}^m \to \mathbb{R}^m</math>, the set is defined as: {{center|1=<math> {}_mO_{x,\alpha}^{n,u}(h) := \left\{ o_x^\alpha : o_x^\alpha \in O_{x,\alpha}^{n,u}([h]_k) \ \forall k \leq m \right\}, </math>}} where <math>[h]_k: \Omega \subset \mathbb{R}^m \to \mathbb{R}</math> denotes the <math>k</math>-th component of the function <math>h</math>. [[User:Calfracsets|Calfracsets]] ([[User talk:Calfracsets|talk]]) 06:27, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
This is a PDF print of the Scopus page, for whose that don't have access to Scopus<br/>
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1eadN5q_kcuRDl_cMnlU9idnQIKt_a1d2/view?usp=sharing

Latest revision as of 14:20, 23 November 2024

ambiguous "Fractional derivative of a basic power function" section hiding the most important formula

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AFAIK (and understand from the text), the last part of this section starting with "For a general function f(x)" is really about any kind of f() and not only for f() being a basic power function, as expected by the section title.

Also, this general formula is probably the most important part of this page since it explain how to practically compute it (when you don't want to do it in Fourier or Laplace space ).

So I guess it should deserve its own paragraph. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fabrice.Neyret (talkcontribs) 17:40, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I take issue with this section, but not for the same reasons you do. This wording implies that this is the way of computing the fractional derivative of a power function, which it is not. There are many different fractional derivatives as detailed in the later in the page under "Fractional integrals" and "Fractional derivative" and they do not follow this form. As well as saying that was the general formula for fractional derivatives is also misleading if not false. The formula in this section is pretty much the same as the Riemann-Liouville fractional integral.
I do however think that it would make more sense if it were tweaked and moved as a "Special case of basic power functions" section in the Riemann–Liouville_integral article.
Same with the Laplace transform section. I think it can be moved the Riemann-Liouvile integral article as motivation for it's definition alongside the Cauchy repeated integral rule. Coffeevector (talk) 06:52, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Which character does the article use for the index of differentiation?

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The nice illustration with caption "The animation shows the derivative operator oscillating ..." appears to use a Greek lowercase alpha for the index, whereas the article appears to use a Roman lowercase A. (Unless my eyes are deceiving me.)

It's probably best if they both use the same character, especially because the caption does not define the meaning of that character but assumes it is understood. 2601:200:C000:1A0:9D6A:3426:156B:13FB (talk) 23:36, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Two equivalent definitions of Caputo fractional derivative

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There seem to be two equivalent definitions given of the Caputo fractional derivative, one using α and one using ν, which is confusing. One of them should be removed. Since α seems to be used consistently throughout the article, I would suggest removing the definition that uses ν. Some editing of the surrounding text will also be required. Benjamin Rich (talk) 15:10, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal for the Addition of Information on Fractional Operators

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Considering the following references:

Acceleration of the order of convergence of a family of fractional fixed-point methods and its implementation in the solution of a nonlinear algebraic system related to hybrid solar receivers [1]

Sets of Fractional Operators and Numerical Estimation of the Order of Convergence of a Family of Fractional Fixed-Point Methods [2]

Would it be possible to add the following information on fractional operators?

References

  1. ^ Torres-Hernandez, A.; Brambila-Paz, F.; Montufar-Chaveznava, R. (September 29, 2022). "Acceleration of the order of convergence of a family of fractional fixed-point methods and its implementation in the solution of a nonlinear algebraic system related to hybrid solar receivers". Applied Mathematics and Computation. 429: 127231. arXiv:2109.03152. doi:10.1016/j.amc.2022.127231.
  2. ^ Torres-Hernandez, A.; Brambila-Paz, F. (December 29, 2021). "Sets of Fractional Operators and Numerical Estimation of the Order of Convergence of a Family of Fractional Fixed-Point Methods". Fractal and Fractional. 5 (4): 240. doi:10.3390/fractalfract5040240.

Set of Fractional Operators

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Fractional calculus, a branch of mathematics dealing with derivatives of non-integer order, emerged nearly simultaneously with traditional calculus. This emergence was partly due to Leibniz's notation for derivatives of integer order: . Thanks to this notation, L'Hopital was able to inquire in a letter to Leibniz about the interpretation of taking in a derivative. At that moment, Leibniz couldn't provide a physical or geometric interpretation for this question, so he simply replied to L'Hopital in a letter that "... is an apparent paradox from which, one day, useful consequences will be drawn". The name "fractional calculus" originates from a historical question, as this branch of mathematical analysis studies derivatives and integrals of a certain order . Currently, fractional calculus lacks a unified definition of what constitutes a fractional derivative. Consequently, when the explicit form of a fractional derivative is unnecessary, it is typically denoted as follows:

Fractional operators have various representations, but one of their fundamental properties is that they recover the results of traditional calculus as . Considering a scalar function and the canonical basis of denoted by , the following fractional operator of order is defined using Einstein notation [1]:

Denoting as the partial derivative of order with respect to the -th component of the vector , the following set of fractional operators is defined:

with its complement:

Consequently, the following set is defined:

Extension to Vectorial Functions

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For a function , the set is defined as:

where denotes the -th component of the function . Calfracsets (talk) 06:27, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]