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How to sort out misinformation, untruths and propaganda in the article?

Could we please have a proper discussion on sorting out the misinformation, untruths and propaganda in the article? 2A00:23C4:95:EA01:6067:6E2B:11FD:E666 (talk) 22:50, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Well, this is Wikipedia, so you may either:

Read the site's policies on reliable sources and neutral-point of view, since that is probably where your grievances are, and make a policy-based argument with references to specific content in the article you are challenging. Or,
Take your vague gestures at "misinformation, untruths and propaganda" elsewhere, such as an online forum, which Wikipedia is not.

Yue🌙 23:20, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Add the fact that they have nothing to do with acient uyghurs

Add that 2603:8001:8446:6EBB:72A:8D7E:94A5:D773 (talk) 15:44, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's not true. Beshogur (talk) 15:57, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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+== How to sort out misinformation, untruths and propaganda in the article? ==
-== historically buddhism  ==
-{{hat|reason=[[WP:NOTFORUM|Talk pages are not forums]]. This discussion has been closed; do not modify it.}}
-there is no uyghurs following buddhism today whats the point in that seriously??? [[Special:Contributions/2A02:C7C:507D:0:A130:A279:F018:5FB4|2A02:C7C:507D:0:A130:A279:F018:5FB4]] ([[User talk:2A02:C7C:507D:0:A130:A279:F018:5FB4|talk]]) 15:50, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
-: Because it's an incredibly important part of their culture, and absolutely essential to their historic identity. It's also one of the primary shared links to the groups that formed the ethnogenesis of the historical Uyghur people, and remained central to Uyghur identity throughout most of their history. [[User:Symmachus Auxiliarus|Symmachus Auxiliarus]] ([[User talk:Symmachus Auxiliarus|talk]]) 02:41, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
-::Is it now? The article literally says they destroyed Buddhist monuments because they believed they were built by Dzungers. So much for central part of their culture lmfao [[Special:Contributions/2A02:C7C:507D:0:745F:9390:1452:BFDB|2A02:C7C:507D:0:745F:9390:1452:BFDB]] ([[User talk:2A02:C7C:507D:0:745F:9390:1452:BFDB|talk]]) 14:52, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
-:::Closing discussion per [[WP:NOTFORUM]]. Your off-handed tone, and the fact that you are responding on different IPs, indicates to me that you are just here to provoke others and start trouble. <big>[[User:Yue|<span style="color:#757575; font-family:Consolas, monospace">''Yue''</span>]][[User talk:Yue|🌙]]</big> 21:34, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
-{{hidden archive bottom}}
-== Sources needed ==
-The last paragraph of the main section states "Various scholars, human rights organizations and governments consider abuses perpetrated against the Uyghurs". I feel sources are needed here, not only to add to its reliability but also to prompt further reading. [[Special:Contributions/87.95.5.71|87.95.5.71]] ([[User talk:87.95.5.71|talk]]) 11:20, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
-:See [[Uyghur Genocide]]. [[User:Beshogur|Beshogur]] ([[User talk:Beshogur|talk]]) 14:57, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
-== Semi-protected edit request on 21 June 2023 ==
-{{Edit semi-protected|Uyghurs|ans=yes}}
-I'd like to replace the picture of the Uyghur man with a sheepskin hat with the following picture. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Muqam.jpg
-The reason the photo needs to be replaced is it misleads anyone who wants to know about Uyghurs. Uyghurs are diverse people and members of today's modern society. They cannot not be represented by an outdated photo of a man with a dusty sheepskin hat. [[User:YulghunA|YulghunA]] ([[User talk:YulghunA|talk]]) 10:00, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
-:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done for now:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> The current image has been in this article for far too long, so consensus is required to replace it. Also, the target media file does not have sufficient information on its copyright status. [[User:DreamRimmer|<b><span style="color: #22C6CB;">𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚊𝚖𝚁𝚒𝚖𝚖𝚎𝚛</span></b>]] <sup> [[user talk: DreamRimmer| <b><span style="color: orange;">𝚍𝚒𝚜𝚌𝚞𝚜𝚜</span></b>]]</sup> 13:11, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
-::The point is not the painting or the image of the painting. The point is the current photo on the Uyghur page doesn’t reflect Uyghur people as a whole. The current one being there for far too long doesn’t mean it’s the appropriate one. Women having no voting rights for centuries doesn’t mean it was a right thing. [[Special:Contributions/167.98.170.146|167.98.170.146]] ([[User talk:167.98.170.146|talk]]) 14:36, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
-:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done for now:''' please establish a [[Wikipedia:Consensus|consensus]] for this alteration '''[[Wikipedia:Edit requests|before]]''' using the {{Tlx|Edit semi-protected}} template.<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:Actualcpscm|Actualcpscm]] ([[User talk:Actualcpscm|talk]]) 16:30, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
-:Replacing a photo with a painting would be against [[MOS:IMAGEQUALITY]]. I feel like this shouldn't be said, but representing a ''real'' group of people with a ''painting'' is less, not more inappropriate. I also don't think you own the copyright to that painting as you claim, especially since you ripped it from a Medium blog and the painter, Ghazi Ehmet, is deceased. <big>[[User:Yue|<span style="color:#757575; font-family:Consolas, monospace">''Yue''</span>]][[User talk:Yue|🌙]]</big> 01:23, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
-::I did not claim the copyright to the paining. I merely uploaded the photo of the painting to Wikimedia which is widely available on the internet from a page where the photo had better resolution. The blogger doesn’t claim any right to the photo. I do know the painter is deceased. The point is not the image of the painting. The point is the current photo on the Uyghur page '''doesn’t reflect Uyghur people as a whole'''. The current one being there for far too long doesn’t mean it’s the appropriate one. Women having no voting rights for centuries doesn’t mean it was a right thing. [[User:YulghunA|YulghunA]] ([[User talk:YulghunA|talk]]) 22:36, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
-:::Copyright is paramount for us here. [[User:Horse Eye&#39;s Back|Horse Eye&#39;s Back]] ([[User talk:Horse Eye&#39;s Back|talk]]) 14:58, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
-::::Sure, but my point is for yhe picture to be either removed or changed to something else that’s more appropriate. [[User:YulghunA|YulghunA]] ([[User talk:YulghunA|talk]]) 08:20, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
-:[[File:Pictogram voting comment.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Note:'''<!-- Template:ESp --> Marked the edit request as answered, as it's being dealt with. [[User:NotAGenious|NotAGenious]] ([[User talk:NotAGenious|talk]]) 08:42, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
-::How long does it take to change or remove a photo? Status of this matter has been set as 'being dealt with' for almost 2 months. [[User:YulghunA|YulghunA]] ([[User talk:YulghunA|talk]]) 11:04, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
-:::The photo you added without having permission to use the image was removed from commons a while ago. Looks like its been dealt with. [[User:Horse Eye&#39;s Back|Horse Eye&#39;s Back]] ([[User talk:Horse Eye&#39;s Back|talk]]) 15:54, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
-::::Thanks for your comment @[[User:Horse Eye's Back|Horse Eye's Back]]. If you read this thread, it’ll be apparent to you that my aim is removal or replacement of the photo of a shepherd with dusty sheep skin hat that’s currently being displayed on the page. [[User:YulghunA|YulghunA]] ([[User talk:YulghunA|talk]]) 16:56, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
-:::::Given that the image you uploaded is no longer an option is there one of the pictures currently used on the page which you think would work better? I would also look at the archives, I believe that there's been some discussion about this at before. [[User:Horse Eye&#39;s Back|Horse Eye&#39;s Back]] ([[User talk:Horse Eye&#39;s Back|talk]]) 17:23, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
+Could we please have a proper discussion on sorting out the misinformation, untruths and propaganda in the article? [[Special:Contributions/2A00:23C4:95:EA01:6067:6E2B:11FD:E666|2A00:23C4:95:EA01:6067:6E2B:11FD:E666]] ([[User talk:2A00:23C4:95:EA01:6067:6E2B:11FD:E666|talk]]) 22:50, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
-== Tajiks-closest nation to Uyghurs ==
+:Well, this is Wikipedia, so you may either:
-https://dzen.ru/a/ZKOC-y7rPiFy_aiT
+:# Read the site's policies on [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] and [[WP:POV|neutral-point of view]], since that is probably where your grievances are, and make a policy-based argument with references to specific content in the article you are challenging. Or,
-Add it too, please! [[User:Al-Khujandi|Al-Khujandi]] ([[User talk:Al-Khujandi|talk]]) 16:35, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
+:# Take your vague gestures at "misinformation, untruths and propaganda" elsewhere, such as an online forum, [[WP:NOTFORUM|which Wikipedia is not]].
+:<big>[[User:Yue|<span style="color:#757575; font-family:Consolas, monospace">''Yue''</span>]][[User talk:Yue|🌙]]</big> 23:20, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
+== Add the fact that they have nothing to do with acient uyghurs ==
-== Semi-protected edit request on 29 October 2023 ==
-{{edit semi-protected|Uyghurs|answered=yes}}
+Add that [[Special:Contributions/2603:8001:8446:6EBB:72A:8D7E:94A5:D773|2603:8001:8446:6EBB:72A:8D7E:94A5:D773]] ([[User talk:2603:8001:8446:6EBB:72A:8D7E:94A5:D773|talk]]) 15:44, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
-So,tajiks are closest nation to uyghurs.
-Link https://dzen.ru/a/ZKOC-y7rPiFy_aiT
-[[User:Al-Khujandi|Al-Khujandi]] ([[User talk:Al-Khujandi|talk]]) 17:07, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
+:That's not true. [[User:Beshogur|Beshogur]] ([[User talk:Beshogur|talk]]) 15:57, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
-:{{Not done}}: The [[WP:Sourcing|source]] you provided is [[WP:RS|not reliable]]. <big>[[User:Yue|<span style="color:#757575; font-family:Consolas, monospace">''Yue''</span>]][[User talk:Yue|🌙]]</big> 17:25, 29 October 2023 (UTC)