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Tone of article

This article reads like an advertisement. Leaving grammatical considerations aside, it is surely not acceptable to use such lines as "His interpretations and technique have become a point of reference to millions of music audiences around the world." This sort of unsubstatiated claim is outlandish in an encyclopaedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.228.224.50 (talk) 07:43, 10 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Fraud

He was charged -- was he convincted? It seems unfair to mention the fraud charges without saying if he was cleared of them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.221.57.236 (talk) 15:27, 18 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

An eight year jail sentence would suggest so.^[1] Jim1138 talk 01:07, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This article is in direct conflict to facts on the ground, as Erez is active in recordings, releasing new music, and posting new videos on social media, as early as November, 2018. This does not jive with an "8 year jail sentence" of 2017. ^[2]

Are you suggesting he wasn't convicted and sentenced to eight years? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8084:2162:7680:D5C3:81D5:5B1B:3357 (talk) 13:20, 25 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am suggesting that the reference to Sam Pazzano's article is of low grade, as it may be in error, given the activities of the artist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:84E0:1E6:8DC0:6BD7:1024:BD4A (talk) 16:15, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Sam Pazzano (8 August 2017). "Fraudster Tzvi Erez hit with 8-year jail term for Ponzi scheme". Toronto Sun. Retrieved 12 November 2018.
^ https://itunes.apple.com/ca/album/schumann-piano-concerto-in-a-minor-op-54-kinderszenen-op-15/1454577005. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

But this is a better reference: https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onca/doc/2019/2019onca204/2019onca204.html?autocompleteStr=2019%20onca%20204&autocompletePos=1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C6:B210:9601:19A5:E5FA:6728:FD74 (talk) 12:15, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The canlii.orgreference is to a judgment by the Supreme Court of Canada in 2019 rejecting the appeal by Tzvi Erez. It states that "In 2014, the applicant Mr. Erez pleaded guilty to 12 counts of fraud involving 12 complainants. Subsequently, Mr. Erez brought an application to strike the guilty pleas. That application was dismissed." The amounts of the frauds were in excess of $6 million and Erez was sentenced to served 8 years in a Federal penitentiary, though it's unclear whether he was incarcerated eventually. As a sourced statement of fact, I see no reason why this should not appear in the Erez biography. If the matter is somehow "unresolved" because of subsequent appeals, editors may wish to source that claim in addition to his conviction. The criminal activity of a biographical subjects is an essential part of their biography, and other biographies of artists on Wikipedia include reference to crimes, misdeeds and controversies (e.g., Caravaggio, Benvenuto Cellini, William Burroughs,and L.-F. Celine). Mardookian (talk) 20:51, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Sam Pazzano (8 August 2017). "Fraudster Tzvi Erez hit with 8-year jail term for Ponzi scheme". Toronto Sun. Retrieved 12 November 2018.

[2] ttps://itunes.apple.com/ca/album/schumann-piano-concerto-in-a-minor-op-54-kinderszenen-op-15/1454577005. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)

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 :Are you suggesting he wasn't convicted and sentenced to eight years?   <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2A02:8084:2162:7680:D5C3:81D5:5B1B:3357|2A02:8084:2162:7680:D5C3:81D5:5B1B:3357]] ([[User talk:2A02:8084:2162:7680:D5C3:81D5:5B1B:3357#top|talk]]) 13:20, 25 June 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-I am suggesting that the reference to Sam Pazzano's article is of low grade, as it may be in error, given the activities of the artist.
+I am suggesting that the reference to Sam Pazzano's article is of low grade, as it may be in error, given the activities of the artist.  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2607:FEA8:84E0:1E6:8DC0:6BD7:1024:BD4A|2607:FEA8:84E0:1E6:8DC0:6BD7:1024:BD4A]] ([[User talk:2607:FEA8:84E0:1E6:8DC0:6BD7:1024:BD4A#top|talk]]) 16:15, 17 September 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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+But this is a better reference: https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onca/doc/2019/2019onca204/2019onca204.html?autocompleteStr=2019%20onca%20204&autocompletePos=1  <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2A00:23C6:B210:9601:19A5:E5FA:6728:FD74|2A00:23C6:B210:9601:19A5:E5FA:6728:FD74]] ([[User talk:2A00:23C6:B210:9601:19A5:E5FA:6728:FD74#top|talk]]) 12:15, 28 March 2023 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+:The canlii.orgreference is to a judgment by the Supreme Court of Canada in 2019 rejecting the appeal by Tzvi Erez. It states that "In 2014, the applicant Mr. Erez pleaded guilty to 12 counts of fraud involving 12 complainants. Subsequently, Mr. Erez brought an application to strike the guilty pleas. That application was dismissed." The amounts of the frauds were in excess of $6 million and Erez was sentenced to served 8 years in a Federal penitentiary, though it's unclear whether he was incarcerated eventually. As a sourced statement of fact, I see no reason why this should not appear in the Erez biography. If the matter is somehow "unresolved" because of subsequent appeals, editors may wish to source that claim in addition to his conviction. The criminal activity of a biographical subjects is an essential part of their biography, and other biographies of artists on Wikipedia include reference to crimes, misdeeds and controversies (e.g., Caravaggio, Benvenuto Cellini, William Burroughs,and L.-F. Celine). [[User:Mardookian|Mardookian]] ([[User talk:Mardookian|talk]]) 20:51, 25 November 2024 (UTC)