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== "Seven minutes of terror" redirect == |
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== [[:File:Martian-Sunset-O-de-Goursac-Curiosity-2013.jpg]] image removed from article? == |
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@[[User:Nikthestunned|Nikthestunned]] - seems you may have recently [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Mars_Science_Laboratory&diff=563539534&oldid=563514337 removed] the [[:File:Martian-Sunset-O-de-Goursac-Curiosity-2013.jpg]] image from the [[Mars Science Laboratory]] article as "against image policy" - if possible, what is the *specific* image policy at issue? - Thanks in advance for your reply - and - Enjoy! :) [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan|talk]]) 17:01, 9 July 2013 (UTC) |
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:I've gone ahead and restored the image, after removing the credit line. The title in the image should not be removed, as it is a part of the image itself. <span style="white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:gray 5px 3px 1px;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 02:55, 10 July 2013 (UTC) |
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::@[[User:Huntster|Huntster]] - Thank you *very much* for your help with the image - it's *greatly* appreciated - Enjoy! :) [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan|talk]]) 03:03, 10 July 2013 (UTC) |
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:::I removed it due to the aptly named [[WP:WATERMARK]], which states "Free images should not be watermarked, distorted, have any credits in the image itself or anything else that would hamper their free use" - the current version, with just the title, is OK. I would say, however, that I don't recall seeing any other photographic image with an in-built title... Not to say it's against any policy (that I can find), but does look wrong to me {{=)|8}}. '''[[User:Nikthestunned|<font color="MidnightBlue">Nik</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Nikthestunned|<font color="CornflowerBlue">''the''</font>]][[User talk:Nikthestunned|<font color="ForestGreen">stunned</font>]]''' 08:51, 10 July 2013 (UTC) |
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:I'm sorry, Nik, but ''how'' does it look wrong? I take your word for it, of course, but I genuinely don't understand. <span style="white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:gray 5px 3px 1px;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 09:33, 10 July 2013 (UTC) |
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::This is an encyclopaedic article about an in-depth scientific topic, and right at the end we appear to have the work of an unconnected artist who has modified the images released by NASA - where is the value in including it? |
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::It "looks" wrong as I've never seen this elsewhere - at least not in a well developed article. The picture itself is 100% fine - why have the title and border? What encyclopaedic value do these add? There is no reason, other than that the artist who made it wanted them there - they add no value, only confusion to some (like me). ''(Incidentally, if I took one of my images and added a 500px border & title for no reason, I guarantee it would be reverted!)'' '''[[User:Nikthestunned|<font color="MidnightBlue">Nik</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Nikthestunned|<font color="CornflowerBlue">''the''</font>]][[User talk:Nikthestunned|<font color="ForestGreen">stunned</font>]]''' 11:40, 10 July 2013 (UTC) |
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:::Thanks for the comments - for my part (fwiw & atm) I'm flexible with this - removing the title/border (or not) is *entirely* ok with me - in any case - thanks again for the comments - and - Enjoy! :) [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan|talk]]) 12:17, 10 July 2013 (UTC) |
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:::Thanks Nik, I appreciate the reply. I understand the sentiment, and frankly don't care all that much about the issue. I would like to see some additional opinions before removing it, though. <span style="white-space:nowrap; text-shadow:gray 5px 3px 1px;">— [[User:Huntster|Huntster]] <small>([[User talk:Huntster|t]] [[Special:Emailuser/Huntster|@]] [[Special:Contributions/Huntster|c]])</small></span> 00:00, 11 July 2013 (UTC) |
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== Requirement to avoid icy areas? == |
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[http://www.space.com/13783-nasa-msl-curiosity-mars-rover-planetary-protection.html This article] refers to a requirement that the rover avoid any landing site with ice near the surface. The story makes it sound like this is a contamination issue: we're scared to to touch the ice for fear of embedding Earth microbes into it. OK, maybe so. But if there's a ban on studying the ice, that seems important. I can't find anything else that specifically addresses this. Is there another reason (political, engineering) we avoided areas with ice? I've never heard anything about it. Can anyone find sources that detail why this decision was made? Are the coming rovers allowed to study Martian ice? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/192.104.231.225|192.104.231.225]] ([[User talk:192.104.231.225|talk]]) 03:22, 24 October 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== A couple of errors? == |
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First, article says the parachute descent starts at 578 m/s, but its own reference [136] gives this figure as 470 m/s. Is it an error? |
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Second, article says parachute is 16 m in diameter, but the paper my NASA's team says it's 21.5 m. The paper says it was scaled up from the 16 m Viking parachute, so maybe someone misread. http://trs-new.jpl.nasa.gov/dspace/bitstream/2014/41708/1/08-0255.pdf |
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I'm no expert so I wouldn't want to make these changes myself, but I'm sure someone else can clarify. |
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[[User:RobertCWebb|RobertCWebb]] ([[User talk:RobertCWebb|talk]]) 11:15, 6 November 2014 (UTC) |
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:Sure, if sourced. Read the entire text to avoid inconsistencies. Best regards.[[User:PauloMSimoes|PauloMSimoes]] ([[User talk:PauloMSimoes|talk]]) 11:50, 6 November 2014 (UTC) |
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== [http://www.ustream.tv/nasajpl NASA-TV/ustream] (12/8/2014@12noon/et/usa) - [[Curiosity (rover)|Curiosity Rover]] - Observations. == |
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[http://www.ustream.tv/nasajpl NASA-TV/ustream] (Monday, December 8, 2014@12noon/et/usa) - Panel of experts to discuss the latest observations of the [[Curiosity (rover)|Curiosity Rover]]<ref name="NASA-20140909">{{cite web |last=Webster |first=Guy |last2=Brown |first2=Dwayne |title=NASA to Hold Dec. 8 Media Teleconference on Mars Rover Curiosity Observations |url=http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2014-415 |date=December 3, 2014 |work=[[NASA]] |accessdate=December 3, 2014 }}</ref> - Enjoy! :) [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan|talk]]) 00:59, 4 December 2014 (UTC) |
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:FOLLOWUP - Space Experts Discuss the [[Curiosity (rover)|Curiosity Rover]] and Latest Observations (a/o December 8, 2014)<ref name="NASA-20141208">{{cite web |last=Brown |first=Dwayne |last2=Webster |first2=Guy |title=Release 14-326 - NASA’s Curiosity Rover Finds Clues to How Water Helped Shape Martian Landscape |url=http://www.nasa.gov/press/2014/december/nasa-s-curiosity-rover-finds-clues-to-how-water-helped-shape-martian-landscape/ |date=December 8, 2014 |work=[[NASA]] |accessdate=December 8, 2014 }}</ref><ref name="NYT-20141208">{{cite news |last=Kaufmann |first=Marc |title=(Stronger) Signs of Life on Mars |url=http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/09/science/-stronger-signs-of-life-on-mars.html |date=December 8, 2014 |work=[[New York Times]] |accessdate=December 8, 2014 }}</ref> - Archived Discussion => [http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/56255521 Audio (62:03)] and [http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/msl/telecon/index.html#.VIX6fNLF8rV Visuals] - Enjoy! :) [[User:Drbogdan|Drbogdan]] ([[User talk:Drbogdan|talk]]) 19:40, 8 December 2014 (UTC) |
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"{{-r|Seven minutes of terror}}" currently redirects to a section of this article. However, it is now ambiguous, since the term has been used again for the [[InSight]] mission. It should probably be a disambiguation page or perhaps [[WP:RFD|not exist at all]]. Suggestions? --[[User:SoledadKabocha|SoledadKabocha]] ([[User talk:SoledadKabocha|talk]]) 06:06, 28 November 2018 (UTC) |
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:I notice that the ''InSight'' article doesn't yet mention the term; we shouldn't take any action until it does. --[[User:SoledadKabocha|SoledadKabocha]] ([[User talk:SoledadKabocha|talk]]) 02:17, 18 December 2018 (UTC) |
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::Nor do the [[Mars atmospheric entry]] or [[Mars landing]] articles specifically mention justification for a seven-minute interval. |
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::I was not seriously recommending either a disambiguation or an RFD. A hatnote would be more appropriate, ''after'' relevant content is added to one of said other articles. --[[User:SoledadKabocha|SoledadKabocha]] ([[User talk:SoledadKabocha|talk]]) 02:42, 20 August 2019 (UTC) |
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== AutoNav not mentioned == |
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Neither the Computer section or the Mobility systems section mention the AutoNav software on-board Curiosity. Sadly it has been less used since the wheel damage required avoidance of sharp rocks.[https://www.marsdaily.com/reports/Perseverance_Mars_rover_to_use_AutoNav_in_new_self_driving_mode_999.html ] Mars 2020/Perseverance has upgraded AutoNav software. - [[User:Rod57|Rod57]] ([[User talk:Rod57|talk]]) 12:23, 3 July 2021 (UTC) |
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"Seven minutes of terror" redirect
[edit]"Seven minutes of terror" currently redirects to a section of this article. However, it is now ambiguous, since the term has been used again for the InSight mission. It should probably be a disambiguation page or perhaps not exist at all. Suggestions? --SoledadKabocha (talk) 06:06, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
- I notice that the InSight article doesn't yet mention the term; we shouldn't take any action until it does. --SoledadKabocha (talk) 02:17, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Nor do the Mars atmospheric entry or Mars landing articles specifically mention justification for a seven-minute interval.
- I was not seriously recommending either a disambiguation or an RFD. A hatnote would be more appropriate, after relevant content is added to one of said other articles. --SoledadKabocha (talk) 02:42, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
AutoNav not mentioned
[edit]Neither the Computer section or the Mobility systems section mention the AutoNav software on-board Curiosity. Sadly it has been less used since the wheel damage required avoidance of sharp rocks.[1] Mars 2020/Perseverance has upgraded AutoNav software. - Rod57 (talk) 12:23, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
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