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== Top Ten Most watched programmes ==

Under viewership I have added the top ten most watched programmes on BBC3 from the figures available from the BARB (back to 2005) in order to match up with similar tables in the ITV2 and E4 articles.--[[User:Hammard|Hammard]] ([[User talk:Hammard|talk]]) 21:33, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

I dunno if this helps but I read on a poster there that some program for BBC Three is being made at [[MetroCentre (shopping centre)]]. Can someone clarify the name? I was more focused on getting to <s>HMV and getting a free Large Popcorn (O2 Priority moments offer)</s> stores than memorizing the name of a series being made there. [[User:Matticusmadness|MIVP]] - [[User talk:Matticusmadness|(Can I Help? ◕‿◕) <small>(Maybe a bit of tea for thought?)</small>]] 22:16, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

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== Logo dispute ==

From what I can tell, the logo was unveiled before the channel moved online ([http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3384365/BBC-spends-hundreds-thousands-new-logo-just-weeks-BBC3-taken-TV.html]). [[User:EvergreenFir|'''<span style="color:#8b00ff;">Eve</span><span style="color:#6528c2;">rgr</span><span style="color:#3f5184;">een</span><span style="color:#197947;">Fir</span>''']] [[User talk:EvergreenFir|(talk)]] <small>Please &#123;&#123;[[Template:re|re]]&#125;&#125;</small> 20:11, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
:I don't mind what logo goes here, but I like the idea of this article having the 2008-2016 logo, since it was the channel's longest serving logo for around 8 years. --&nbsp;'''[[User:AxG|<span style="font-family:Georgia;color:#000;">AxG</span>]]<span style="color:#4169E1;">&nbsp;/'''&nbsp;</span>[[User talk:AxG|<span style="color:#000;">✉</span>]]<span style="color:#4169E1;">&nbsp;'''/&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family:Georgia;color:#000;">10 years of editing</span>''' 23:44, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

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This is not a formal proposal just yet. I'm gathering opinions and ideas so that we can get the BBC Three articles in a position that keeps the historic and future incarnations of it in a coherent order.


Seeing as this article covers a period that ends in 2016 and that the streaming article covers the 2016 - 2022 period and also that the 2022 version of BBC Three looks like a given. I think renaming this article and the streaming article would bring a lot of clarity to things. I'm thinking along the following lines:
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* Rename BBC Three (this article) to BBC Three (2003 - 2016)
Hello fellow Wikipedians,
* Rename [[BBC Three (streaming service)]] to BBC Three (2016 - 2022)
* Make a new BBC Three to either cover the 2022 incarnation or as a disambiguation page.


All of the above is to bring clarity to the individual and distinct phases of the channel.
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Any opinions or alternative ideas? - [[User:X201|X201]] ([[User talk:X201|talk]]) 10:59, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
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*'''Leaning agree''' Because i found that despite defunct channel, many users adding the new 2021 logo that actually used in streaming service and future channel, assuming that the channel will return in 2022. [[Special:Contributions/36.77.95.70|36.77.95.70]] ([[User talk:36.77.95.70|talk]]) 21:48, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
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There's no point creating a new article for BBC Three and naming it BBC Three (2022) TV Channel, it would not make sense whatsoever as all the other BBC Channels have only one page. [[Special:Contributions/82.19.92.117|82.19.92.117]] ([[User talk:82.19.92.117|talk]]) 20:43, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
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:I'm going to agree with {{ping|82.19.92.117}} and say that there should ''not'' be a new article for the upcoming BBC Three channel. I agree that it makes no sense when the other channels have one page, but I also want to add that I don't see any issue about an article that represents a channel that closed down and was "relaunched". When it comes to consistency: we in fact already have an example of such a case, [[Great! TV]] was formerly called Sony Channel which closed down in 2018 before it was relaunched in 2019. And in cases such as [[Sky Living]] and a plethora of other examples, we don't have separate articles for rebrands that are called "relaunches", so the case for having a separate article for a channel that gets relaunched with the ''same'' name and identity i.e. BBC Three is even weaker. --[[User:Jf81|Jf81]] ([[User talk:Jf81|talk]]) 21:41, 9 January 2022 (UTC)


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== Merge? ==
== BBC Three logo colour ==
Following the test broadcasts and the preview loop on Freeview, it is apparent that the colour of BBC Three is now going to be green, as opposed to the pink logo shown as the upcoming logo for BBC Three. I believe the logo should be changed to reflect the new logo colours. [[User:ProGamerSrijan|ProGamerSrijan]] ([[User talk:ProGamerSrijan|talk]]) 10:04, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
{{Discussion top|result=No consensus to merge + point of confusion (the "online" disambiguation) clarified and renamed [[User:X201|X201]] ([[User talk:X201|talk]]) 07:19, 29 October 2021 (UTC)}}
: Should the background not be made black? It would make the contrast much clearer - lime green on white (or off-white) is very hard on the eyes. – [[User:Dyolf87|Dyolf87]] ([[User talk:Dyolf87|talk]]) 21:03, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
I see no need for [[BBC Three (online)]] to be separate from BBC Three, especially with the upcoming linear re-launch of the channel. BBC Three (online) looks like a dreadful and unneccessary article - more than half the content is about the BBC proposal, the linear closure/online launch and the statistics of viewers since the linear closure, rather than actually ''about'' the BBC Three online channel and its content. Not to mention it is severely outdated. Probably one of the worst pages on wiki I've come across. No need for it to exist, it should merge to [[BBC Three]]. --[[User:Jf81|Jf81]] ([[User talk:Jf81|talk]]) 15:25, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''': Fundamentally different service that shares the same name. It has a different history, and if you have any suggestions on how it can be improved, why not focus on actually making those improvements rather than effectively calling for deletion? <span style="border:1px solid #445A38;padding:1px;">[[User:ViperSnake151|<span style="color:#8f5902">ViperSnake151</span>]] [[User_talk:ViperSnake151|<span style="color:#fff;background:#88A976;">&nbsp;Talk&nbsp;</span>]] </span> 16:22, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
**{{ping|ViperSnake151}} I have taken a look and there isn't anything to improve, it's a dead end, and any "improvements" would basically be stripping down the article. --[[User:Jf81|Jf81]] ([[User talk:Jf81|talk]]) 12:58, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
*'''Merge''': BBC Three is one service, regardless of which platforms it's on. Same as any other channel that is broadcast and on-demand. What other channels have separate articles for their online output vs their broadcast output? [[User:Walt111|Walt111]] ([[User talk:Walt111|talk]]) 16:34, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''': As [[User:ViperSnake151]] says, it is a fundamentally different service, broadcast exclusively online, and therefore has a different history with different output. As ViperSnake says, to merge the two would effectively end up with one of them being deleted. [[User:Rillington|Rillington]] ([[User talk:Rillington|talk]]) 14:20, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''': These are distinct, different phases in the history of different services that are called BBC3. The name may be the same, but the legal entity behind them is different. One is a broadcast TV channel that ran until 2016, the other is an on-demand service that ran from 2016. Perhaps the "online" disambiguation may be confusing people? but these articles cover different entities and need to be separate. - [[User:X201|X201]] ([[User talk:X201|talk]]) 14:59, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
**{{ping|X201}} Yes the ambiguous "online" is what caused confusion, which is now renamed. --[[User:Jf81|Jf81]] ([[User talk:Jf81|talk]]) 12:58, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''': I agree with ViperSnake. If you’re going to complain so much about the poor quality of an article, than actually improve it. End of story [[User:Dannycreatire|Dannycreatire]] ([[User talk:Dannycreatire|talk]]) 17:29, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
**{{ping|Dannycreatire}} I would never jump to this stage without looking to improve first. I have taken a look and there isn't anything to improve, it's a dead end, and any "improvements" would basically be stripping down the article. --[[User:Jf81|Jf81]] ([[User talk:Jf81|talk]]) 12:58, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
*'''Merge''': :but BBC Three is not really a separate 'British over-the-top Internet television service' operated like a 'teen UKTV Play' by the BBC, its more of an area/section on the iPlayer, so if there is a separate article called ''BBC Three (streaming service)'', maybe articles called ''[[BBC One (streaming service)]]'', ''[[BBC Two (streaming service)]]'', ''[[BBC Four (streaming service)]]'' etc. need to be created as well?... (I suppose there could also be an argument for the ''[[BBC Three (streaming service)]]'' article to be merged with that of the BBC iPlayer rather than this one).<!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:‎ 81.152.236.198|‎ 81.152.236.198]] ([[User talk:‎ 81.152.236.198#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/‎ 81.152.236.198|contribs]]) 17:27, 18 September 2021 (UTC)</span>
::BBC Three '''was''' a separate service. The point of the separate articles is that BBC Three has had three different phases to it's life that do not easily mesh together in the same article. - [[User:X201|X201]] ([[User talk:X201|talk]]) 15:05, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
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== Question about the logo ==
== Merge proposal ==
I propose merging [[BBC Three (streaming service)]] into [[BBC Three]]. Despite previous opposition at [[Talk:BBC Three/Archive 1#Merge?]], I think this should be revisited. Asserting BBC Three as a separate streaming service between 2016 and 2022 is highly problematic, primarily that its existence within BBC iPlayer is apparent before and after these dates. The previous argument made that the streaming service article content does not fit easily into [[BBC Three]] appears false, as [[BBC Three#Replacement by Internet service]] is already a condensed version of its history section. [[BBC Three]] already prominently (and naturally) describes the streaming-only years as if the same channel as the broadcast iterations, and even contains information about the BBC One content block from 2019–2022 within its infobox. A separate article is confusing and misleading, and solves a problem that never existed. [[User:U-Mos|U-Mos]] ([[User talk:U-Mos|talk]]) 21:06, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
Someone replacing the BBC Three (former channel) logo with this:
[[File:BBC Three logo 2021.svg|thumb|250px]]


:*'''Oppose''': It'd be one thing if [[BBC Three (streaming service)]] was a stub (ie [[Cleo TV]], [[FM (TV channel)]]), or that the "condensed version of its history" on [[BBC Three]] wasn't '''three, massive paragraphs long'''.
instead this:
:Neither is the case, otherwise, a separate page wouldn't have existed in the first place.
[[File:BBC Three logo.svg|thumb|250px]]
:Speaking of that [[Talk:BBC Three/Archive 1#Merge?|previous discussion]], the reason this was shot down in the first place is because the streaming version of BBC3 '''was''' a separate entity from the television channel it initially replaced. Because its content was exclusive to [[BBC iPlayer]], BBC3 & its programs were given separate on-air branding from the BBC's regular output across its linear channels.
:'''"What other channels have separate articles for their online output vs their broadcast output?", asks Walt111 on 16:34, 2 August 2021 (UTC)'''
:The answer: [[Crave (TV network)]] & [[Crave (streaming service)]]; which merged in '''2018'''. They would have known this if they'd spent more time doing their research and " focus[ed] on making improvements" instead of "calling for deletion".
:It's been two years since BBC3 was relaunched. If the articles were meant to be merged, they would have already merged. [[User:Thecleanerand|Thecleanerand]] ([[User talk:Thecleanerand|talk]]) 19:00, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
::Since you quoted me, I'll respond. It's not clear from what I said, but I was thinking of specific UK channels. For instance BBC One is a broadcast TV channel, and can be streamed from within the BBC's streaming app called BBC iPlayer, and on-demand videos can also be streamed in the BBC One section of BBC iPlayer; but it has only one article, called BBC One, not separate articles referring to broadcast BBC One and a different article referring to streamed BBC One accessed via BBC iPlayer. The BBC One internet streams (linear and on-demand videos) was available when BBC iPlayer launched in 2007, like BBC Three (and BBC Two, BBC Four, CBBC etc). The same applies to ITV1 - it's a broadcast channel, and can be streamed within ITVX, but it has one article called ITV1. In contrast, Channel 4 is a broadcast channel and also the name of their umbrella streaming service (which includes several channels including linear Channel 4), so it has two articles called Channel 4 and Channel 4 (VoD service). At no point was BBC Three (or BBC One, BBC Two etc) ever a stand-alone VoD service separated from BBC iPlayer. Here's an internet archive link to BBC Three, in BBC iPlayer in Jan 2016: https://web.archive.org/web/20160119005413/https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree
::00:07, 26 November 2024 (UTC) [[User:Walt111|Walt111]] ([[User talk:Walt111|talk]]) 00:07, 26 November 2024 (UTC)
* '''Support''' The separation into two articles, with the benefit of hindsight and the increasing fluidity of television offerings, is arbitrary. The Crave case is not identical because, despite having taken the same name, they had independent histories that only later intersected. In this case, the streaming service only existed when the linear channel was shut down, and reuniting the articles neatly fills the gap. [[User:Sammi Brie|<span style="color:#ba4168">Sammi Brie</span>]] (she/her • [[User talk:Sammi Brie|t]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sammi Brie|c]]) 06:56, 10 August 2024 (UTC)
* '''Support''' I see no reason to separate these. They could easily be merged with no loss of understanding. [[User:TheDoctorWho|<span style="color:#0000ff;">'''The'''</span><span style="color:#0000ff">'''Doctor'''</span><span style="color:#0000ff;">'''Who'''</span>]] [[User talk:TheDoctorWho|(talk)]] 03:45, 27 August 2024 (UTC)


:*'''Comment''' I personally prefer '''Support'''. But if the merged artical become too long, then I prefer a independent "History" page, to include the whole history.
I know that due to corporate rebrand of the BBC, the new BBC Three logo was unveiled at BBC One block, where many assuming that the logo will be used once BBC Three returns to TV in 2022. Should English Wikipedia replacing that logo with the new ones? Because i found that in Wikipedia in other languages, despite it was a former channel, a new logo for BBC Three was attached instead of old and so indistinguishable than online service and maybe future channel. [[Special:Contributions/36.77.94.37|36.77.94.37]] ([[User talk:36.77.94.37|talk]]) 05:09, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
:[[User:Awdqmb|Awdqmb]] ([[User talk:Awdqmb|talk]]) 15:24, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
:We currently have two BBC Three articles covering distinct phases in the channel's history. Phase 1, (this article) as a broadcast channel from 2003 - 2016 and phase 2 as an online content brand (2016 - 2022). It would be wrong to add the new logo to this article, because it has historic content that ends in 2016 and has no connection to the new logo. The same goes for the period as a content brand article (2016 - 2022) That is not connected to the BBC Three that we'll see in 2022.
* '''Support''' Definitely merge, it shouldn't have been split in the first place. The 'streaming service' article begins ''BBC Three was a British over-the-top internet television service operated by the BBC. It was launched on 16 February 2016 as a replacement for the linear BBC Three television channel, which closed down the same day but was later relaunched on 1 February 2022.'' The whole premise of that article is wrong, since the channel has been in iPlayer continuously since iPlayer launched in 2007, with the bit between Feb 2016 - Feb 2022 explained by being the period when the linear channel temporarily stopped. There was never an OTT app called 'BBC Three' which the 'streaming service' article implies. [[User:Walt111|Walt111]] ([[User talk:Walt111|talk]]) 00:15, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
:We are talking about very distinct phases in the channel's history (three specific forks in Wiki terminology), there needs to be a BBC Three 2022 article, because shoehorning new BBC Three information into either of the others is the wrong course of action. - [[User:X201|X201]] ([[User talk:X201|talk]]) 07:53, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
*'''Support''' Articles not being stubs and being 2 different things do not excuse them not merging. They can be summarized in 1 single article. If not then go with [[User:Awdqmb|Awdqmb's]] suggestion.
[[User:Spongebob796|Spongebob796]] ([[User talk:Spongebob796|talk]]) 12:55, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

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Article Title?

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This is not a formal proposal just yet. I'm gathering opinions and ideas so that we can get the BBC Three articles in a position that keeps the historic and future incarnations of it in a coherent order.

Seeing as this article covers a period that ends in 2016 and that the streaming article covers the 2016 - 2022 period and also that the 2022 version of BBC Three looks like a given. I think renaming this article and the streaming article would bring a lot of clarity to things. I'm thinking along the following lines:

  • Rename BBC Three (this article) to BBC Three (2003 - 2016)
  • Rename BBC Three (streaming service) to BBC Three (2016 - 2022)
  • Make a new BBC Three to either cover the 2022 incarnation or as a disambiguation page.

All of the above is to bring clarity to the individual and distinct phases of the channel. Any opinions or alternative ideas? - X201 (talk) 10:59, 5 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Leaning agree Because i found that despite defunct channel, many users adding the new 2021 logo that actually used in streaming service and future channel, assuming that the channel will return in 2022. 36.77.95.70 (talk) 21:48, 7 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There's no point creating a new article for BBC Three and naming it BBC Three (2022) TV Channel, it would not make sense whatsoever as all the other BBC Channels have only one page. 82.19.92.117 (talk) 20:43, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to agree with @82.19.92.117: and say that there should not be a new article for the upcoming BBC Three channel. I agree that it makes no sense when the other channels have one page, but I also want to add that I don't see any issue about an article that represents a channel that closed down and was "relaunched". When it comes to consistency: we in fact already have an example of such a case, Great! TV was formerly called Sony Channel which closed down in 2018 before it was relaunched in 2019. And in cases such as Sky Living and a plethora of other examples, we don't have separate articles for rebrands that are called "relaunches", so the case for having a separate article for a channel that gets relaunched with the same name and identity i.e. BBC Three is even weaker. --Jf81 (talk) 21:41, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Youve missed Make My Body Younger, the reality show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joaquin89uy (talkcontribs) 19:38, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done. | ComplainingCamel (talk) 16:50, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

BBC Three logo colour

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Following the test broadcasts and the preview loop on Freeview, it is apparent that the colour of BBC Three is now going to be green, as opposed to the pink logo shown as the upcoming logo for BBC Three. I believe the logo should be changed to reflect the new logo colours. ProGamerSrijan (talk) 10:04, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Should the background not be made black? It would make the contrast much clearer - lime green on white (or off-white) is very hard on the eyes. – Dyolf87 (talk) 21:03, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal

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I propose merging BBC Three (streaming service) into BBC Three. Despite previous opposition at Talk:BBC Three/Archive 1#Merge?, I think this should be revisited. Asserting BBC Three as a separate streaming service between 2016 and 2022 is highly problematic, primarily that its existence within BBC iPlayer is apparent before and after these dates. The previous argument made that the streaming service article content does not fit easily into BBC Three appears false, as BBC Three#Replacement by Internet service is already a condensed version of its history section. BBC Three already prominently (and naturally) describes the streaming-only years as if the same channel as the broadcast iterations, and even contains information about the BBC One content block from 2019–2022 within its infobox. A separate article is confusing and misleading, and solves a problem that never existed. U-Mos (talk) 21:06, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Neither is the case, otherwise, a separate page wouldn't have existed in the first place.
Speaking of that previous discussion, the reason this was shot down in the first place is because the streaming version of BBC3 was a separate entity from the television channel it initially replaced. Because its content was exclusive to BBC iPlayer, BBC3 & its programs were given separate on-air branding from the BBC's regular output across its linear channels.
"What other channels have separate articles for their online output vs their broadcast output?", asks Walt111 on 16:34, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
The answer: Crave (TV network) & Crave (streaming service); which merged in 2018. They would have known this if they'd spent more time doing their research and " focus[ed] on making improvements" instead of "calling for deletion".
It's been two years since BBC3 was relaunched. If the articles were meant to be merged, they would have already merged. Thecleanerand (talk) 19:00, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Since you quoted me, I'll respond. It's not clear from what I said, but I was thinking of specific UK channels. For instance BBC One is a broadcast TV channel, and can be streamed from within the BBC's streaming app called BBC iPlayer, and on-demand videos can also be streamed in the BBC One section of BBC iPlayer; but it has only one article, called BBC One, not separate articles referring to broadcast BBC One and a different article referring to streamed BBC One accessed via BBC iPlayer. The BBC One internet streams (linear and on-demand videos) was available when BBC iPlayer launched in 2007, like BBC Three (and BBC Two, BBC Four, CBBC etc). The same applies to ITV1 - it's a broadcast channel, and can be streamed within ITVX, but it has one article called ITV1. In contrast, Channel 4 is a broadcast channel and also the name of their umbrella streaming service (which includes several channels including linear Channel 4), so it has two articles called Channel 4 and Channel 4 (VoD service). At no point was BBC Three (or BBC One, BBC Two etc) ever a stand-alone VoD service separated from BBC iPlayer. Here's an internet archive link to BBC Three, in BBC iPlayer in Jan 2016: https://web.archive.org/web/20160119005413/https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree
00:07, 26 November 2024 (UTC) Walt111 (talk) 00:07, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The separation into two articles, with the benefit of hindsight and the increasing fluidity of television offerings, is arbitrary. The Crave case is not identical because, despite having taken the same name, they had independent histories that only later intersected. In this case, the streaming service only existed when the linear channel was shut down, and reuniting the articles neatly fills the gap. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 06:56, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I see no reason to separate these. They could easily be merged with no loss of understanding. TheDoctorWho (talk) 03:45, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I personally prefer Support. But if the merged artical become too long, then I prefer a independent "History" page, to include the whole history.
Awdqmb (talk) 15:24, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Definitely merge, it shouldn't have been split in the first place. The 'streaming service' article begins BBC Three was a British over-the-top internet television service operated by the BBC. It was launched on 16 February 2016 as a replacement for the linear BBC Three television channel, which closed down the same day but was later relaunched on 1 February 2022. The whole premise of that article is wrong, since the channel has been in iPlayer continuously since iPlayer launched in 2007, with the bit between Feb 2016 - Feb 2022 explained by being the period when the linear channel temporarily stopped. There was never an OTT app called 'BBC Three' which the 'streaming service' article implies. Walt111 (talk) 00:15, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Articles not being stubs and being 2 different things do not excuse them not merging. They can be summarized in 1 single article. If not then go with Awdqmb's suggestion.

Spongebob796 (talk) 12:55, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]