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== Women in Red December 2024 == |
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<div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> {{Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2024-11-18}} </div><!--Volume 20, Issue 16--> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * '''[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost|Read this Signpost in full]]''' * [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2024-11-18|Single-page]] * [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Subscribe|Unsubscribe]] * [[User:MediaWiki message delivery|MediaWiki message delivery]] ([[User talk:MediaWiki message delivery|talk]]) 23:43, 18 November 2024 (UTC) <!-- Sent via script ([[User:JPxG/SPS]]) --></div></div> |
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|style="padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | [[File:WiR Women who died in 2024.png|right|100px]]'''<big>[[:en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red|Women in Red]]</big>''' <big>|</big> <small>December 2024, Vol 10, Issue 12, Nos 293, 294, 324, 325 </small> |
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'''Online events:''' |
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== ArbCom 2024 Elections voter message == |
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* ''New'': [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/324|Women who died in 2024]] <big>|</big> [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/325|Religion]] |
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* ''Continuing'': [[:en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/293|#1day1woman]] <big>|</big> [[:en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/294|Education]] <small>(year-long initiative)</small> |
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* [[:en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Religion|Women in Religion]] have a monthly virtual edit-a-thon and the next session is<br> December 2nd 4:00 - 5:00 p.m. CST. For Zoom meeting details, contact [[User:Dzingle1|Dzingle1]] or<br> [[User:RosPost|RosPost]]. [[:en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red|Women in Red]] members are welcome to join the Zoom Meeting [https://tulane.zoom.us/j/95434400202?pwd=N0lEQzFFTHZNRXk0NE44M3RxUWtkUT09 here] |
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Hello! Voting in the '''[[WP:ACE2024|2024 Arbitration Committee elections]]''' is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on {{#time:l, j F Y|{{Arbitration Committee candidate/data|2024|end}}-1 day}}. All '''[[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2024#Election timeline|eligible users]]''' are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once. |
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'''Tip of the month:''' |
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The [[WP:ARBCOM|Arbitration Committee]] is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the [[Wikipedia:Arbitration|Wikipedia arbitration process]]. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose [[WP:BAN|site bans]], [[WP:TBAN|topic bans]], editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Policy|arbitration policy]] describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. |
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== Wikipedia:Administrator recall/Current re-RFAs == |
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{{Moved discussion to|Wikipedia talk:Administrator recall#Wikipedia:Administrator recall/Current re-RFAs|2=Moving discussion to the Page talk page to see input from other editors. [[User:Raladic|Raladic]] ([[User talk:Raladic#top|talk]]) 15:35, 19 November 2024 (UTC)}} |
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--[[User:Lajmmoore|Lajmmoore]] ([[User talk:Lajmmoore|talk]] 18:46, 29 November 2024 (UTC) via MassMessaging |
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Hi Raladic. You have created this page and transcluded it onto the recall page, but I have removed the transclusion. Namely, there's no need to advertise RRfA like this, because like all RfAs they are highly visible, and there's no need to mirror what was done for the petitions (transcluded list) which aren't advertised anywhere else; a list of RRfAs is already at [[Wikipedia:Administrator recall/Closed petitions]] -- updating manually at an additional place is unnecessary and duplicative. This makes the page orphaned, so I believe that it should be deleted. If you agree that it should, G7 should still work. —[[User talk:Alalch E.|Alalch E.]] 12:02, 19 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:RFAs are advertised, but since these are RFAs as a result of the recall, I do feel that having them listed at the [[WP:RECALL]] page is worthwhile for convenience. |
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:And another editor @[[User:Stephen|Stephen]] helped fix the sentence case, which I take as agreeing that this sentence s a useful addition to the page. |
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:Maybe revert your undo and take to the [[Wikipedia talk:Administrator recall]] page to see if other editors feel like it’s useful or not? [[User:Raladic|Raladic]] ([[User talk:Raladic#top|talk]]) 15:30, 19 November 2024 (UTC) |
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== Please raise for discussion. == |
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Regarding the protected [[Sarah McBride]] page—and you may feel free to post this in its entirety at that article's Talk page— |
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It is utterly unhelpful that protections against vandalism at that page extend to the Talk page. As such, unregistered editors are prevented from posting proposed changes to content. As such, the encyclopedia is hurt in its loss of a reasonable pathway by which its errors might be civilly and charitably brought to its attention. |
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A simple and relevant case, which we would have repaired (had the article not been protected), or posted to Talk (had it been appropriately semi-protected): |
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The section, "Early life and education" terminates with an end-of-paragraph inline citation that simply does not support the content appearing in that paragraph. In fact, that source is poor, both because it does not begin to cover the information appearing in the paragraph—place of birth, DOB, parents' names, father's and mother's occupations, i.e., '''''it supports none of the purported factual material in the paragraph'''''—and because, even were to support content, the source is ostensibly autobiographical, and so neither independent, nor third party, as called for by WP:VERIFY. (The source is a self-authored biography post at an employer-type webpage, whose content is either authored by, or is under the control of, the title subject.) |
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These contentions are supported as follows, but let the following also be said: Protecting Talk pages so that formal edit requests cannot be made there by non-logging editors is contrary to our founding principles, and is a practice that was essentially never seen prior to the last few years. While it may make sense to restrict the article space content to maintain the presentability of the article per se, there is no reasonable justification to stifle productive discourse. |
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The only argument in favor might be that most vandalism arises from non-logging accounts, but that has always been the case, and extending protection to Talk fully disenfrachises non-logging editors, '''''including those not guilty of any malfeasance'''''. For that reason it can be argued (alongside its never having been practiced early in our history) that such Talk restrictions are contrary to the founding intents, practices, and principles of the encyclopedia (and we are old enough to state this with confidence). |
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Finally, we are a editor with an account, but edit alongside many who haven't one, and so post this message to you, for application at the [[Sarah McBride]] Talk page, on their behalf. |
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With regard, an editor with many tens of thousands of unreverted and thus persistent, encyclopedia-supportive edits. [[Special:Contributions/73.211.140.61|73.211.140.61]] ([[User talk:73.211.140.61|talk]]) 21:34, 19 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:The content of the article paragraph referenced is this:<blockquote>Sarah McBride was born in Wilmington, Delaware, to David and Sally McBride on August 9, 1990. Her father was a lawyer for Young Conaway Stargatt & Taylor and her mother was a guidance counselor and a founder of the Cab Calloway School of the Arts.</blockquote> |
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:The citation content, in its entirety, with forward slashed indicating paragraph breaks, reads:<blockquote>Background / Cab Calloway School of Arts, 2009 / Bachelor's degree, Government, American University, 2013 / State Senator / Senator Sarah McBride represents the First State Senate District, which includes Claymont, Bellefonte, and parts of Edgemoor and Wilmington. / Raised in Wilmington in the First Senate District, she graduated from Cab Calloway School of the Arts and American University. / She has been involved in community advocacy for most of her life, including working for former Governor Jack Markell, the late Attorney General Beau Biden, and as a White House intern during the Obama Administration. Most recently, she served as a spokesperson for the Human Rights Campaign, the nation’s largest LGBTQ equal rights organization. / Prior to her service in the State Senate, McBride led the successful effort to pass a landmark non-discrimination law in Delaware, worked with state leaders to expand health care covered by Medicaid, and championed legislation protecting vulnerable youth from child abuse. / McBride has taught public policy at the University of Delaware and is the author of the 2018 memoir, “Tomorrow Will Be Different.” / For her work and advocacy, former Gov. Markell awarded McBride the Order of the First State, making her one of the youngest Delawareans granted the state’s highest civilian honor. When McBride was elected in November 2020, succeeding former state Senator Harris B. McDowell III, she became the first openly transgender state senator in American history. / As a state senator, McBride has passed legislation expanding access to health care, requiring mental health and media literacy education in public schools, promoting green technologies, and protecting workers and families. In just her first term, McBride passed the landmark Healthy Delaware Families Act, providing paid family and medical leave to workers throughout the First State and marking the largest expansion of Delaware's social safety net in decades. / She currently serves as chair of the Senate Health & Social Services Committee and is a member of the Senate Housing Committee, Senate Corrections & Public Safety Committee, Senate Judiciary Committee, Senate Veterans Affairs Committee, and the Joint Legislative Oversight and Sunset Committee. / Sarah married her late husband Andrew Cray in 2014 and is the proud aunt of Juliette, Theo, Bennett, Sydney, Ben and Addison.</blockquote> |
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:From the foregoing, it should be clear that the citation does not properly support the paragraph to which it affixed, and is otherwise a poor choice (as having been penned either by the title subject, of by staff reporting to her, such that its content is under her control). |
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:Per WP:VERIFY, please facilitate hiding or removing the source, and replacing it with a source that actually supports the content of each factual assertion of the section. [[Special:Contributions/73.211.140.61|73.211.140.61]] ([[User talk:73.211.140.61|talk]]) 21:35, 19 November 2024 (UTC) |
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::First of all, to address the reason for why this talk page is now semi-protected, it is because there was an outsizedly large amount of BLP violations happening on the talk page, that required Revision Deletion as you can see from the [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Sarah_McBride&action=history Talk page history] - this is a big problem and because of it, the talk page had to be protected, as the BLP in question has recently gotten increased attention following their election to Congress. We of course appreciate editing from both registered and IP editors, but Wikipedia is large, so if you feel you'd like to provide continued improvements to this article, then there's the simple path to [[WP:REGISTER]] an account to contribute to the talk page. |
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::Now with regards to the content you say has problems, note that [[WP:ABOUTSELF]] of the [[WP:V]] policy does allow some limited self-published ressources, the paragraph in question is about her backstory and does not contain unduly self-serving or exceptional claims, so it is fine to use as a source. In any case, I added two more sources now to support the parents. Next time if you'd like an edit, please help with bringing the sources for it. [[User:Raladic|Raladic]] ([[User talk:Raladic#top|talk]]) 01:24, 20 November 2024 (UTC) |
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== Concerns regarding a comment on [[Talk:Trans]] == |
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As I was closing the RM for [[Trans]] as "not moved", I noticed this comment that you made in replying to an opponent of the move: |
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{{quote|Not that I was surprised to encounter [opposition], which is why I was well equipped with the evidence that would easily pass for any other topic based on the evidence, but sadly, improving LGBTQ coverage on Wikipedia to address the [[WP:Systemic Bias]] against [[LGBTQ_and_Wikipedia#LGBTQ_coverage]] still faces outsized opposition for no reason.}} |
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I came here not to indict you, but simply to ask for clarification—is the purpose of this comment to [[WP:ASPERSIONS|allege]] that your opponent is personally opposed to LGBT rights, or merely an observation? If the latter, may I ask why this led you to assume people would oppose this move? [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[She (pronoun)|she]]/[[Singular they|they]]) 02:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC) |
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Women in Red December 2024
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--Lajmmoore (talk 18:46, 29 November 2024 (UTC) via MassMessaging