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<small>(Archived conflicts at: [[Wikipedia:Conflicts_between_users/archive1]])</small>

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== List of conflicts ==

===66.47.62.78 (Szopen)===
The user with obsession: she removes all "Polish" adjectives and turn them into "Polanen". She insert HRE, emperor anywhere she could. I am not sure, but I think this is user which was earlier widely known as H.J. - with whom I already discussed most of her changes THREE years ago. She ignores arguments and mostly continues on changing the pages in her won personal crusade.

It's sad that people like MichealTInkler and many others have left wikipedia whil she is still here...

At least she ceased to create numerous stub-articles from Prussian genealogy and fake artciles about Prussian origins and how Poles were badly treating god-like Prussians... (this comment written by [[User:Szopen|Szopen]])

:[[User:66.47.62.78]] is almost certainly [[User:H.J.]], so 66.47.62.78 is not allowed to contribute to Wikipedia (as Jimbo Wales repeated only recently, can't remember where). [[User:Kosebamse|Kosebamse]] 10:32, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)

:Links, please. Without links an entry in Conflicts between users is nothing. Also, if she is a hardbanned user, her IP address should also be banned. [[User:Optim|O]][[Vegetarian|p]][[Harvey Spencer Lewis|t]][[Ralph Maxwell Lewis|i]][[Vegan|m]]<sup><small>[[Western mystery tradition|·]][[AMORC|.]][[User_talk:Optim|·</small></sup>]] 05:34, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)

E.g here, 28 february:
[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/wiki.phtml?title=Boleslaus_I_of_Poland&diff=2566054&oldid=2564697 here]. Note that changes were to add false information "for few months"

or [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/wiki.phtml?title=Mieszko_I_of_Poland&diff=2542304&oldid=2513756 here]. Inserting "imperial" in random places.

[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/wiki.phtml?title=Stephen_B%E1thory&diff=2597776&oldid=2527822 here] false information than Maximilian did not accept to became king of Poland - while he in fact was defeated in three battles and captured...

===12.144.5.2 (ZackDude)===
First of all I have nothing personal against 12.144.5.2 but he's been very uncooperative with writing articles with Wikipedia Users like me. I have tried to contact him numerous times however it's incredibly hard since he does not have a username or is even signed up with Wikipedia. Also, One of his habits is he never leaves spaces after punctuation and forcing people to clean up after himself. For instance look at the [[Freedom Tower]], one of the articles I have contributed the most including drawing custom specification image designs for. Without a conversation on the article he edits the article for no reason and changes things around and puts a biased point of view on the article that the Freedom Tower will not be the tallest building in the world although according to various proof it will be according to regulations etc. He likes things his way without consideration of other users or compromises and puts in things totally unrelated to the main article. For instance see [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/wiki.phtml?title=Freedom_Tower&dummy=1&diff=2593774&oldid=2593756 this] and look at the changes he made. I am basically getting in a put this and change this battle with him and I would ask that an administrator/sysop looks at the work he has done and tells him to please sign up with Wikipedia as username, double check his work including punctuation, and talk with the Wikipedia users such as me before he puts any controversial facts or ideas that is not backed with anything.

Thank you
-[[User:ZackDude|ZackDude]] 06:03, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)
<p>ZackDude...you "tried to contact me numerous times"?...you haven't answered my posting on your talk page there,and the posting on my talk page was for whatever reason not flagged for me as "new messages",which I am used to.Note that I post my name and email rather often,and you could have gotten hold of me that way.--12.144.5.2/Louis Epstein/le@put.com (using [[Lynx (browser)]])<p>

:The solution for [[Freedom Tower]] is very easy: Refer to the sources. Don't say "it will be the tallest" but "according to that newspaper it will be the tallest". It's not hard to communicate with him since he publishes his email address. My experience with him over [[List of dignitaries of mystical organisations]] some time ago was very positive and cooperative. The punctuation issue can be fixed easily, something that I am eager to do whenever I have the time. Please note, however, that we cannot force unpaid volunteers to change their spelling. [[User:Optim|O]][[Vegetarian|p]][[Harvey Spencer Lewis|t]][[Ralph Maxwell Lewis|i]][[Vegan|m]]<sup><small>[[Western mystery tradition|·]][[AMORC|.]][[User_talk:Optim|·</small></sup>]] 05:30, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)

:This user has been discussed before, see [[Wikipedia:Conflicts_between_users/archive1#12.144.5.2]] for an earlier discussion. [[User:Maximus Rex|Maximus Rex]] 06:10, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)

===[[User:RickK]] (Zestauferov & Mestwin)===

[[User:RickK]] is he a Nazi or not?? [[User:RickK]] claims that half of Poland belongs to Germany, and German names should be used for Polish cities in English Wikipedia. This is precisely a Nazi behaviour. User RickK threatens other users that he will block them just for calling Nazi behaviour a Nazi behaviour. This is precisely a Nazi behaviour. We have to do something or [[Neo-nazi]]s like Rick will kill our memory about victims of the the Nazis. [[User:Gdansk|Mestwin]] 05:31, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Rick: you can threaten me or kill me, but others wiil come and call you the proper name you deserve.

I don't think I need to comment on this. [[User:RickK|RickK]] 05:35, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)

RickK is not neutral in these conflicts, and I suggest he is excluded from dealing with Nazi articles. I especially demand that RickK stops reverting and blocking people just because he dosn't like them or their views. If Rick thinks somebody should be blocked - Let him allow other privileged users decide for him. [[User:Gdansk|Mestwin]] 06:34, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)

RickK actually claims to be Jewish as far as I remember but his knowledge of things pertaining to the Jewish people is appaulingly inaccurate. The main problem is apparently that he is a vey sloppy reader even apparently confusing me with [[User:Levzur]]. It does not help that since he has become an administrator he deems himself beyond criticism and would rather mirror an accisation than deal with it. I am combining your complaint against him with mine from below. [[User:Zestauferov|Zestauferov]] 04:28, 28 Feb 2004 (UTC)

He is a deletionist prejudiced against me trying to censor my posts at Hittite because of influence from Ben (at first nick-naming me Ibero-Hurrian man and refering to myposts as nonsense, but who has since in some way appoloigized for misjudging me) Wetman & Llywrch. I try Wiki policy and Wikiquette but he totally ignores all my requests for discussion of differences. I have drunk so much tea I think I may be an addict now. [[User:Zestauferov|Zestauferov]] 10:02, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Seems like everybody who crosses you is a problem user. Oh, well. Your edit history speaks for itself. You're a Georgian nationalist trying to rewrite the history of Europe in order to make it seem like Georgians have always been in their land, despite the history that the rest of the world seems to know. I am not prejudiced against you, I don't even know you. I just don't like the idea of seeding Wikipedia with false data. [[User:RickK|RickK]] 02:09, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)

:I am not Georgian, I am British, and of Prussian-Jewish extraction and I live in Seoul, Korea. Where do you get these ideas from? Someone is feeding you lies. [[User:Zestauferov|Zestauferov]] 01:10, 21 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Maybe a confusion with [[user:Lezvur]]. [[User:Secretlondon|Secretlondon]] 20:00, Feb 27, 2004 (UTC)

I've never claimed to be Jewish. I am not Jewish. I gew up in a fundamentalist Protestant family, but I prefer to consider myself agnostic leaning towareds pagan. [[User:RickK|RickK]] 07:28, 28 Feb 2004 (UTC)

My appologies, I must have confused your religion with someone else's. That at least clears up a lot of confusion I had about your apparent opposition to themes pertaining to Jewish traditon. [[User:Zestauferov|Zestauferov]] 07:46, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)

:You were thinking of [[user:RK]] in all likelyhood. I just figured out the difference last night. [[User:Sam Spade|Sam Spade]] 08:32, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)

RickK is an admin who abuses his privileges. Apparently others think so as well. He is on my list, although he is not #1 since he is not a total idealogue on some sort of jihad like Ed Poor. [[User:Richardchilton|Richardchilton]] 09:50, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)

So far as I know, I have never had a single dealing with Richardchilton, which should show that he is, indeed, someone else with a new name. [[User:RickK|RickK]] 02:55, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC)

===Sam Spade (RickK)===
Is changing other people's comments on Talk pages. [[User:RickK|RickK]] 03:20, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)

:Links, please. Without links an entry in Conflicts between users is nothing. [[User:Optim|O]][[Vegetarian|p]][[Harvey Spencer Lewis|t]][[Ralph Maxwell Lewis|i]][[Vegan|m]]<sup><small>[[Western mystery tradition|·]][[AMORC|.]][[User_talk:Optim|·</small></sup>]] 05:32, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)

::[http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&oldid=2610755#Personal_endangerment]This link pretty well explains it. I might have over-reacted, but it's pretty clear that RickK and Bcorr were trying to get a rise out of me. [[User:Sam Spade|Sam Spade]] 23:03, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)

=== Paul Vogel/65.125.10.66/24.45.99.191/216.99.245.171/216.99.245.184/66.2.156.38 ===

Moved to [[/Paul Vogel]]

===[[User:Llywrch]] (Zestauferov)===

Moved to [[/Llywrch]]

===[[User:Wetman]] (Zestauferov)===
First invited to "weigh-in" against me by Llywrch in November 2003 he immediately belittled my good-faith editing offering advice on how to distract my little brain http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Wetman#Concerning_Tiresome_Behavior now posts warning messages against almost anything I contribute to. I try Wiki policy and Wikiquette but he promotes me as a "troll" to other users. The bones of contention seem to be in any article i write but specifically based upon disagreement with the existence of any evidence that may support the legitimate Jewish tradition that so-called "Shemites" were originally an eastern people of whom some settled amidst speakers of what are now called Afro-Asiatic languages. It seems the respect for religious (perhaps not just Jewish) traditions is annoying for him particularly if in conflict with the fact that certain Protestant views which have been found to be without any scientific basis. Is is so unbelieveable that nations might preserve 'certain' traditions which may become backed up as having some historical accuracy as science progresses? The accusation is that I try to synthesize biblical traditions with historical evidence any time I try to clarify historical data and add sections or links about Biblical perspectives which happen not to be in contrast to the historical data. The fact that I have also clarified pages erroneously linking to biblical figures is overlooked. Following in the line of earlier prejudices against [[User:Yeti]] and [[User:Levzur]] (which instead of attempting to understand their cultural positions and bring them round gently, soon rubbed the latter the wrong way leading into conflict with [[User:RickK]]) he has now accused me of being involved in some kind of nationalist Urrecht movement (I cannot imagine what the details of this might be).[[User:Zestauferov|Zestauferov]] 10:02, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)

:An excruciatingly careful rewrite of [[Habiru]] is now being assembled by [[User:Benwbrum/Hapiru]]. My [[User:Wetman|record]] speaks for itself; so does [[User:Zestauferov]]'s. A troll is a person whose ''primary'' interest is in creating dissention and attracting attention. A ''clever'' troll adds just enough content not to be banned. I will not encourage neurotic needs for aggrievement further. [[User:Wetman|Wetman]] 00:45, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)

::Is calling me neurotic in line with Wikiquette? Well I would like to invite people to offer me constructive feed-back on my entries to see if I can do something to deflect this accusation. I thought a Troll is a monster that sits under a bridge and does not allow anyone to cross. Rather like someone who reverts any edits made to a page which they have written.[[User:Zestauferov|Zestauferov]] 14:52, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)

===[[User:OneVoice]] vs [[User:Viajero]] and [[User:BL]]===

[[User:Viajero]] and [[User:BL]] have without discussion or consensus changed this page and its talk page to be redirects to [[Violence in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict 2004]]. The pages are significantly different. The first lists only terrorist attacks and the number killed therein. The second provides a single list that includes terrorist attacks and Arabs killed in attacking Israeli troops, and/or attempting to infiltrate into Israel. In other words, it lists without distinction murders and combat killings.

The vandalism extends to all the related pages:
* [[Terrorism against Israel in 2000]]
* [[Terrorism against Israel in 2001]]
* [[Terrorism against Israel in 2002]]
* [[Terrorism against Israel in 2003]]
* [[Terrorism against Israel in 2004]]
and their talk pages.

I appears based upon the edit logs that [[User:Viajero]] and [[User:BL]] may be the same person. [[User:OneVoice|OneVoice]] 20:13, 3 Feb 2004 (UTC)

:In my opinion, there is absolutely no chance Viajero and BL are the same person. If this is a dispute over an article, it should be at [[Wikipedia:Current disputes over articles]], not here. [[User:Angela|Angela]][[user talk:Angela|.]] 21:32, Feb 3, 2004 (UTC)

==Earlier conflicts==

[[User:Reddi|JDR]] ([[User:Lord Kenneth|Lord Kenneth]] and (Exploding Boy)): Moved to [[/JDR]]

[[User:DJ Clayworth]] and [[User:Davidcannon]] ([[User:24.236.198.191]]): Moved to [[/DJ Clayworth-Davidcannon]]

[[User:172]] (Many users): Moved to[[/172]]

[[User:SimMoonXP]] ([[User:RickK]] and [[User:Moncrief]]): Moved to [[/SimMoonXP]]

[[User:Lord Kenneth]] ([[User:JackLynch]]): See [[Wikipedia:Conflicts between users/Lord Kenneth (JackLynch)]] for issues which Jack still feels are current relating to [[User:Lord Kenneth|Lord Kenneth]].

[[User:Levzur|Levzur]] (RickK); Moved to [[/Levzur]]

[[User:JackLynch|JackLynch]] (Tannin and others): Moved to [[/JackLynch]]

[[User:Lizard King]] ([[User:UtherSRG]]): Moved to [[/Lizard King (UtherSRG)]]:

[[User:Mr-Natural-Health]] (Theresa Knott and many others): Moved to [[/Mr-Natural-Health]]

[[User:Yeti]] ([[User:Wetman]]): Moved to [[/Yeti]]

[[User:Wik]] (Many users): Moved to [[/Wik]]

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