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== Do not merge == |
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I vote no merge with Autism - DSM isn't law, some doctors use the term [[User:Temerarius|Temerarius]] ([[User talk:Temerarius|talk]]) 17:24, 15 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:I don't see that a merge is being discussed? [[User:Doniago|DonIago]] ([[User talk:Doniago|talk]]) 17:57, 15 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:Please take this to the discussion on [[Autism spectrum]], the talk page there is where the merge is being considered. [[User:Cassie Schebel|With Love from Cassie Schebel]] ([[User talk:Cassie Schebel|talk]]) 22:27, 15 May 2024 (UTC) |
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:I believe that the article needs to be cleaned of outdated sources and written based on sources that consider Asperger syndrome as a historical concept. There is no need to merge - the article Autism should not be oversized. [[User:Reprarina|Reprarina]] ([[User talk:Reprarina|talk]]) 21:32, 8 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::Please see the comment above yours; this isn't where the discussion is occurring. [[User:Doniago|DonIago]] ([[User talk:Doniago|talk]]) 00:49, 9 June 2024 (UTC) |
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== Better discussion why it is contradicting that asperger do not have normal level of empathy == |
== Better discussion why it is contradicting that asperger do not have normal level of empathy == |
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[[Special:Contributions/2001:2020:31D:BB94:50A6:F6AE:3ACF:8F4B|2001:2020:31D:BB94:50A6:F6AE:3ACF:8F4B]] ([[User talk:2001:2020:31D:BB94:50A6:F6AE:3ACF:8F4B|talk]]) 05:26, 28 June 2024 (UTC) |
[[Special:Contributions/2001:2020:31D:BB94:50A6:F6AE:3ACF:8F4B|2001:2020:31D:BB94:50A6:F6AE:3ACF:8F4B]] ([[User talk:2001:2020:31D:BB94:50A6:F6AE:3ACF:8F4B|talk]]) 05:26, 28 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:This is contradicted by evidence for what is often known as the [[double empathy problem]]. Theorisation of that concept and evidence for it have both cast into doubt past evidence of autistic people being low in empathy, by pointing out that what was actually found was autistic people struggling to empathise with allistic (non-autistic) people. There is also evidence that allistic people struggle to empathise with autistic people, but that autistic people empathise well with other autistic people and allistic people empathise well with other allistic people. [[User:Elcalebo|Elcalebo]] ([[User talk:Elcalebo|talk]]) 17:22, 22 November 2024 (UTC) |
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== short description == |
== short description == |
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—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 14:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC) |
—[[User:Trappist the monk|Trappist the monk]] ([[User talk:Trappist the monk|talk]]) 14:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC) |
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== Semi-protected edit request: Sukhareva's Syndrome == |
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{{Edit semi-protected|answered=yes}} |
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The statement (under History) "leading some of those diagnosed with Asperger syndrome to instead refer to their condition as 'Sukhareva's Syndrome', in opposition to Hans Asperger's association with Nazism" is unsupported by the reference given, whether with regards to Asperger's alleged association with Nazism, the proposal to use a different name, or the reasons for the proposal. I suggest the entire statement be removed. The preceding statement about Sukhareva is supported by the reference. [[Special:Contributions/216.106.104.39|216.106.104.39]] ([[User talk:216.106.104.39|talk]]) 21:45, 19 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{Done}} I verified the request and removed the statement.--[[User:TempusTacet|TempusTacet]] ([[User talk:TempusTacet|talk]]) 13:09, 20 November 2024 (UTC) |
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== Uta is NOT "he" but "she" == |
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Can someone please correct this typo? Thanks! [[Special:Contributions/50.4.132.185|50.4.132.185]] ([[User talk:50.4.132.185|talk]]) 03:08, 30 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{Done}}. Thanks for spotting the error. [[User:A. Randomdude0000|A. Randomdude0000]] ([[User talk:A. Randomdude0000|talk]]) 04:06, 30 November 2024 (UTC) |
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::While it's correct that Uta Frith is a woman, she translated Asperger's paper to English, not her own or Wing's papers. The source given is a digital version of this translation.--[[User:TempusTacet|TempusTacet]] ([[User talk:TempusTacet|talk]]) 15:54, 30 November 2024 (UTC) |
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Better discussion why it is contradicting that asperger do not have normal level of empathy
[edit]Aspergers may get lack of empathy, due to conflicts or traume; this is what Hans Asperger and other resarcher observed. People with bad general cognitive development or bad emotional development through childhood, may have problem processing emotions and thoughts in a proper way; aspergers that do not have emphatic skill, may have been wrongly diagnosed - due to lack of proper general cognitive development. If one look at csikszentmihalyi's flow model, apathy arises when skill level is low; and slides over to anxiety (social anxiety), when challenge becomes bigger. Such anxiety, that is evident through lack of empathy, is a pinpointer to problems related to general cognitive development.
2001:2020:31D:BB94:50A6:F6AE:3ACF:8F4B (talk) 05:26, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
- This is contradicted by evidence for what is often known as the double empathy problem. Theorisation of that concept and evidence for it have both cast into doubt past evidence of autistic people being low in empathy, by pointing out that what was actually found was autistic people struggling to empathise with allistic (non-autistic) people. There is also evidence that allistic people struggle to empathise with autistic people, but that autistic people empathise well with other autistic people and allistic people empathise well with other allistic people. Elcalebo (talk) 17:22, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
short description
[edit]I don't have a dog in this race. The two most recent short descriptions for this article are:
- Formerly recognized neurodevelopmental condition
- Formerly recognized subtype of autism; considered milder due to intact intelligence and language
Shouldn't the short description say what Asperger syndrome is rather than say what it is not?
—Trappist the monk (talk) 14:29, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request: Sukhareva's Syndrome
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The statement (under History) "leading some of those diagnosed with Asperger syndrome to instead refer to their condition as 'Sukhareva's Syndrome', in opposition to Hans Asperger's association with Nazism" is unsupported by the reference given, whether with regards to Asperger's alleged association with Nazism, the proposal to use a different name, or the reasons for the proposal. I suggest the entire statement be removed. The preceding statement about Sukhareva is supported by the reference. 216.106.104.39 (talk) 21:45, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- Done I verified the request and removed the statement.--TempusTacet (talk) 13:09, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Uta is NOT "he" but "she"
[edit]Can someone please correct this typo? Thanks! 50.4.132.185 (talk) 03:08, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- Done. Thanks for spotting the error. A. Randomdude0000 (talk) 04:06, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- While it's correct that Uta Frith is a woman, she translated Asperger's paper to English, not her own or Wing's papers. The source given is a digital version of this translation.--TempusTacet (talk) 15:54, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
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