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| ⚫ | I went to the [[joint]] article to find information about the individual parts of a joint, but there isn't any on the page itself. Considering that I am there exactly to find the missing information, I feel unqualified to be the one adding that. If anyone is to add a short summary of the roles of different parts of a joint, I would be very grateful.—[[User:Mint Keyphase|Mint Keyphase]] ([[User talk:Mint Keyphase|Did I mess up?]] ''' ''' [[Special:Contributions/Mint Keyphase|What have I done?]]) 03:37, 16 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:The individual parts of a joint depend on its type, which is why information on their structural makeup is found on their individual pages. You might be looking for the [[Synovial joint]] – the most common type of joint and what many people probably think of when they hear the word joint. Perhaps this should be mentioned somewhere on the joint broad-concept article. Hope this helps! [[User:YuniToumei|<span style="color:teal"><b>YuniToumei</b></span>]] ([[User talk:YuniToumei|talk]]) 16:25, 15 November 2024 (UTC) |
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I and @[[User:Claes Lindhardt|Claes Lindhardt]] have been working on the [[List of skeletal muscles of the human body]] and it has become clear that several of the muscles have "reused" images or are just scans of Gray's Anatomy 20th edition that do not really explain what the muscle is. For example, just for the head muscles: |
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* [[Orbicularis oculi muscle]] - does not show parts |
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* [[Depressor supercilii muscle]] - just reuses obicularis oculi image |
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* [[Temporoparietalis muscle]] - image but muscle is not even labeled |
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* [[Levator labii superioris alaeque nasi muscle]] - labelled under a different name and the arrow is not even pointing at the right muscle |
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* [[Transverse muscle of the chin]] - identical pictures to [[Depressor anguli oris muscle]] |
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* [[Thyroarytenoid muscle]] - doesn't label parts |
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I'm not really an illustrator, so what is the best way to go about fixing these? [[User:Mathnerd314159|Mathnerd314159]] ([[User talk:Mathnerd314159|talk]]) 15:44, 28 July 2023 (UTC) |
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| ⚫ | Would someone mind taking a look at [[:Base of skull]]? It's not supported by citations and for the most part seems to be just links to other associated articles. There also seems to be an excessive number of images being used. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 19:27, 16 August 2024 (UTC) |
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:* [[Articularis genus muscle]] - ist a picture of a bone with the muscle attachment rather then the muscle itself |
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:[[User:Claes Lindhardt|Claes Lindhardt]] ([[User talk:Claes Lindhardt|talk]]) 21:54, 29 July 2023 (UTC) |
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::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalene_muscles - have all the scalenus muscles except the minimus [[User:Claes Lindhardt|Claes Lindhardt]] ([[User talk:Claes Lindhardt|talk]]) 19:07, 30 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interspinales_muscles have no picture yet [[User:Claes Lindhardt|Claes Lindhardt]] ([[User talk:Claes Lindhardt|talk]]) 21:03, 31 July 2023 (UTC) |
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::::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subcostalis_muscle also do not have a picture yet [[User:Claes Lindhardt|Claes Lindhardt]] ([[User talk:Claes Lindhardt|talk]]) 21:29, 31 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coccygeus_muscle , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levator_ani also seems to be using the same primary pictures. There is a lot of articles using the same picture where both muscles are likely visable but not marked. This might not be a major issue, but it would be very neat to also have resolved. [[User:Claes Lindhardt|Claes Lindhardt]] ([[User talk:Claes Lindhardt|talk]]) 21:55, 31 July 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::puboperinealis, pterygoideus proprius, Muscle of terminal notch, ceratocricoideus and puboprostaticus (males) / pubovaginalis (females) are also still missing pictures [[User:Claes Lindhardt|Claes Lindhardt]] ([[User talk:Claes Lindhardt|talk]]) 22:05, 31 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::Same goes for https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triceps and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Articularis_cubiti_muscle [[User:Claes Lindhardt|Claes Lindhardt]] ([[User talk:Claes Lindhardt|talk]]) 12:02, 1 August 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::Thanks {{u| Mathnerd314159}} and {{u|Claes Lindhardt}}, images are super important to understanding anatomy so your work is appreciated :). When looking for images I generally start by hunting around in Wikicommons, because we can easily include those images (link here: [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page]). Sometimes for less well known structures, they're not placed in the correct category on Wikicommons, so I have to be sneaky and look at anatomical images of things that area close by or of the area in general, with a hope that the structure will be labelled there. Hope that helps, [[User:Tom (LT)|Tom (LT)]] ([[User talk:Tom (LT)|talk]]) 23:48, 2 September 2023 (UTC) |
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===General problem with anatomy pictures=== |
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Wikipedia has a widespread general problem with many of its images showing aspects of gross anatomy, images which are featured on article pages on such topics: All too often, those pictures, even if they show some view that includes the structure that is the topic of the article, do not label the structure in question, or label it using a different name. |
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== Buccal organ == |
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The problem is, if you do not already know the topic of the article, then you can't necessarily identify the structure in question in the picture even if it's technically (also) depicted in there. Of course, if you already know all about the structure, then you have no problem seeing it in the picture; it's right there. Alas, if you don't already know, then you can't! Ironically, readers who already know all about the structure don't really need to consult Wikipedia articles on it, so they're not even the primary audience. |
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[[File:Symbol watching blue lashes high contrast.svg|25px|link=|alt=]] You are invited to join the discussion at [[:Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 10#Buccal organ|Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 10 § Buccal organ]], which is within the scope of this WikiProject.  [[Buccal organ]] currently redirects to [[Sucker (zoology)]]. The discussion regarding whether it should continue to do so, be retargetted or be deleted needs input from those with knowledge of anatomical terminology. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] ([[User talk:Thryduulf|talk]]) 00:04, 11 September 2024 (UTC)<!-- Template:WikiProject please see --> |
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This is an all-too-common human problem, where bad teachers with poor self-awareness or perhaps a poorly developed [[theory of mind]] do not seem to realise that what ''they'' know is not what everybody else knows. More empathy is required here – as are better labels. Put yourself in the reader's shoes: What do they know? Can they tell what they're looking at? Making up for such deficiencies in the image caption is better than nothing but also relatively insufficient. Just as an example of this problem (that's not fixed as of this writing): The [[Gerdy's tubercle]] article features an image, and while you could technically argue that what's shown in the picture includes Gerdy's tubercle, really your best bet of seeing a picture that actually shows you Gerdy's tubercle and points it out to you is to just search Google Images instead. That's not to knock Gray's Anatomy woodcuts or other old images, but really, if you want to use such a picture to point out a structure, then you need to edit the picture and upload a copy in which what you're actually trying to show is clearly labelled.<br />—[[User:ReadOnlyAccount|ReadOnlyAccount]] ([[User talk:ReadOnlyAccount|talk]]) 11:54, 19 November 2023 (UTC) |
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| ⚫ | [[Brain]] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the [[Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Brain/1|reassessment page]]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. [[User:Z1720|Z1720]] ([[User talk:Z1720|talk]]) 19:21, 5 October 2024 (UTC) |
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== "Explaining the Human Body" videos == |
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| ⚫ | [[File:Information.svg|30px|left]] There is a requested move discussion at [[Talk:Vagina#Requested move 14 November 2024]] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. [[User:JJPMaster|JJP]]<sub>[[User talk:JJPMaster|Mas]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/JJPMaster|ter]]</sub></sub> ([[She (pronoun)|she]]/[[Singular they|they]]) 01:14, 15 November 2024 (UTC) |
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The dorsal column medial luminous pathway is an Afferent pathway of the Peripheral General Sensory Nervous System that sends signals from the body the body. There is also Special Sensory, this functions directly within the brain regarding eyes, ears, nose and mouth . Efferent is Central Motor System that sends signals from Brain [[Special:Contributions/77.103.227.240|77.103.227.240]] ([[User talk:77.103.227.240|talk]]) 15:58, 30 November 2024 (UTC) |
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[[File:Deutsche Welle - Explaining The Human Body (English) - The Thyroid Ruler of the Organs.webm|thumb|upright|explainer video about the thyroid]] Hello! A public broadcaster from Germany, [[Deutsche Welle]], just donated thirteen short English-language explainer videos about general physiology to Commons. You can find them at [[:commons:Category:Creative Commons videos by Deutsche Welle]]. Do you think any of them could be used in an article? Thank you, --[[User:Gnom|Gnom]] ([[User talk:Gnom|talk]]) 11:51, 12 December 2023 (UTC) |
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| ⚫ | [[File:Information.svg|30px|left]] There is a requested move discussion at [[Talk: |
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| ⚫ | I went to the [[joint]] article to find information about the individual parts of a joint, but there isn't any on the page itself. Considering that I am there exactly to find the missing information, I feel unqualified to be the one adding that. If anyone is to add a short summary of the roles of different parts of a joint, I would be very grateful.—[[User:Mint Keyphase|Mint Keyphase]] ([[User talk:Mint Keyphase|Did I mess up?]] ''' ''' [[Special:Contributions/Mint Keyphase|What have I done?]]) 03:37, 16 July 2024 (UTC) |
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| ⚫ | Would someone mind taking a look at [[:Base of skull]]? It's not supported by citations and for the most part seems to be just links to other associated articles. There also seems to be an excessive number of images being used. -- [[User:Marchjuly|Marchjuly]] ([[User talk:Marchjuly|talk]]) 19:27, 16 August 2024 (UTC) |
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I went to the joint article to find information about the individual parts of a joint, but there isn't any on the page itself. Considering that I am there exactly to find the missing information, I feel unqualified to be the one adding that. If anyone is to add a short summary of the roles of different parts of a joint, I would be very grateful.—Mint Keyphase (Did I mess up? What have I done?) 03:37, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
- The individual parts of a joint depend on its type, which is why information on their structural makeup is found on their individual pages. You might be looking for the Synovial joint – the most common type of joint and what many people probably think of when they hear the word joint. Perhaps this should be mentioned somewhere on the joint broad-concept article. Hope this helps! YuniToumei (talk) 16:25, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
Base of skull
[edit]Would someone mind taking a look at Base of skull? It's not supported by citations and for the most part seems to be just links to other associated articles. There also seems to be an excessive number of images being used. -- Marchjuly (talk) 19:27, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
Buccal organ
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You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 10 § Buccal organ, which is within the scope of this WikiProject. Buccal organ currently redirects to Sucker (zoology). The discussion regarding whether it should continue to do so, be retargetted or be deleted needs input from those with knowledge of anatomical terminology. Thryduulf (talk) 00:04, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Brain has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 19:21, 5 October 2024 (UTC)
Requested move at Talk:Vagina#Requested move 14 November 2024
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There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Vagina#Requested move 14 November 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. JJPMaster (she/they) 01:14, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
The dorsal column medial luminous pathway is an Afferent pathway of the Peripheral General Sensory Nervous System that sends signals from the body the body. There is also Special Sensory, this functions directly within the brain regarding eyes, ears, nose and mouth . Efferent is Central Motor System that sends signals from Brain 77.103.227.240 (talk) 15:58, 30 November 2024 (UTC)