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==British== |
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The British are not an ethnic group in their own right. --[[User:MacRusgail|MacRusgail]] ([[User talk:MacRusgail|talk]]) 15:47, 8 January 2009 (UTC) |
The British are not an ethnic group in their own right. --[[User:MacRusgail|MacRusgail]] ([[User talk:MacRusgail|talk]]) 15:47, 8 January 2009 (UTC) |
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==Asians== |
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I noticed the erased/deleted entries of the Afghan Chilean, Indian Chilean and Pakistani Chilean articles from the category template. Asian Chileans aren't mentioned at all, despite the presence of east Asians in the country (i.e. there was recent Chinese, Taiwanese, Japanese, Korean and Vietnamese immigration). Has the articles failed to meet Wikipedia policy? They were indeed short in the length of paragraphs, but offered some informative resources to back them. + [[Special:Contributions/71.102.2.206|71.102.2.206]] ([[User talk:71.102.2.206|talk]]) 16:39, 9 April 2009 (UTC) |
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:All three of those [[WP:NEO|neologistically-titled]] articles were deleted because they failed to meet [[WP:N|Wikipedia's notability policy]]. See [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Indian Chilean]] for one discussion. Please do not re-insert redlinks to the template. [[User:CaliforniaAliBaba|cab]] ([[User talk:CaliforniaAliBaba|talk]]) 07:45, 11 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:: Article: [[Indians in Chile]] does exist, with the proper criteria and sources provided to be kept as is. [[Special:Contributions/71.102.30.215|71.102.30.215]] ([[User talk:71.102.30.215|talk]]) 01:54, 4 April 2011 (UTC) |
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::: It has one proper source, one news report about the earthquake, and one link to a self-published piece hosted on a dead server, which I have removed as failing [[WP:RS]]. In any case please stop filling it with unsourced statements and neologisms like "Indian Chilean" or "Pakistani Chilean". [[User:CaliforniaAliBaba|cab]] ([[User talk:CaliforniaAliBaba|call]]) 03:39, 4 April 2011 (UTC) |
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==Arab Chilean and Palestinian Chilean== |
==Arab Chilean and Palestinian Chilean== |
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The Palestinian Chileans are so many that when spaeking about Arab-Chileans 90% of them must be Palestinians, and therefore should Palestinian-Chilean have their own article. when enought information is gathered about Syrian Chileans and other Arab-Chilean groups they should get their own article. To identify people as Arab-Chilean and British-Chilean seems to be a wikipedia invention. [[User:Dentren|<span style="color:green">'''Dentren'''</span>]] | [[User_talk:Dentren|<sup> |
The Palestinian Chileans are so many that when spaeking about Arab-Chileans 90% of them must be Palestinians, and therefore should Palestinian-Chilean have their own article. when enought information is gathered about Syrian Chileans and other Arab-Chilean groups they should get their own article. To identify people as Arab-Chilean and British-Chilean seems to be a wikipedia invention. [[User:Dentren|<span style="color:green">'''Dentren'''</span>]] | [[User_talk:Dentren|<sup>'''<span style="color:grey;">Ta</span><span style="color:green;">lk</span>'''</sup>]] 11:27, 29 July 2009 (UTC) |
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:Ok, I finally figured out what happened ... there was once a [[Palestinian Chilean]] article. Someone redirected it to [[Arab Chilean]] because it was completely unsourced, and they also removed all mention of Palestinians whatsoever from [[Immigration to Chile]]. Since I've found some sources on the topic, I'll start up (unredirect) the separate Palestinian article once again. But I don't think that "Palestinian Chilean" is a good title --- there's no one using this title besides Wikipedia. "Palestinians in Chile" might be more appropriate. [[User:CaliforniaAliBaba|cab]] ([[User talk:CaliforniaAliBaba|talk]]) 14:40, 29 July 2009 (UTC) |
:Ok, I finally figured out what happened ... there was once a [[Palestinian Chilean]] article. Someone redirected it to [[Arab Chilean]] because it was completely unsourced, and they also removed all mention of Palestinians whatsoever from [[Immigration to Chile]]. Since I've found some sources on the topic, I'll start up (unredirect) the separate Palestinian article once again. But I don't think that "Palestinian Chilean" is a good title --- there's no one using this title besides Wikipedia. "Palestinians in Chile" might be more appropriate. [[User:CaliforniaAliBaba|cab]] ([[User talk:CaliforniaAliBaba|talk]]) 14:40, 29 July 2009 (UTC) |
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Is there much of a Lebanese population? I know there is in Argentina and Brazil, but not sure about Chile.--[[User:MacRusgail|MacRusgail]] ([[User talk:MacRusgail|talk]]) 16:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC) |
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::I dont have sources yet, but I would guess that libanese are the 2 or 3 largest Arab community in Chile after the Palestinians and perhaps also Syrians. Yet, Brazil and Argentina have much larger libanese and syrian communities but Chile have more Palestinians.[[User:Dentren|<span style="color:green">'''Dentren'''</span>]] | [[User_talk:Dentren|<sup>'''<span style="color:grey;">Ta</span><span style="color:green;">lk</span>'''</sup>]] 17:05, 29 July 2009 (UTC) |
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== Template edition == |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Chile#Polish_immigration [[Polish-Chilean|Poles]] |
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The Polish community is thriving in Chile, including recent arrived trade workers in the then booming construction and service industries in the 1990's and early 2000's. The total number of Polish-Chileans may exceed 20,000 now, but it's not found on official demographic surveys in the Chilean Census 2010, unless many are returning to [[Poland]] by the recession and recent earthquakes (March 2010). Not only anti-Communism motivates Polish inspirations but the Chilean political structure appeals to ethnic Poles, so has the return of democracy in Chile at the same year (1989). |
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Also worth mentioning the [[Maltese people]] live in Chile by the thousands, are descendants of maritime workers in the coastal communities since the late 19th century. Maltese immigration at the time before [[Malta]]'s independence in 1962 had [[Italy|Italian]], [[Spain|Spanish]] and [[UK|British]] passports. The population of Maltese in Chile is indeed small but the Maltese contributed to the economy by establishment of a few small shops wherever they settled. The recent uprisings in the Arab world led to [[Libya]]n refugees seek Malta, but Chile assisted to resettle them. |
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And final note: Turks in Chile (the article was deleted) but the description of ethnic [[Turks]] are found in the [[Islam in Chile]] article. About 2,000 ethnic Turks or Turkish-Chileans by nationality of [[Turkey]] live in Chile. Not to be confused with the prejorative ''[[Turco]]'' in Latin America for [[Christian Arab]] nationalities from the post-WWI [[Ottoman Empire]], Turkish people are the actual Turks with similar socioeconomic establishment alike their [[Palestinian Chilean]], [[Lebanese]] or [[Syrian]] Arab counterparts. In fact, the University of Chile (Universidad de Chile) campus in Santiago has a statue of Turkey's founder [[Mustafa Kemal Ataturk]] (president 1923-38) erected in the 1930's dedicates the positive diplomatic relationship of the two countries. [[Special:Contributions/71.102.30.215|71.102.30.215]] ([[User talk:71.102.30.215|talk]]) 02:06, 4 April 2011 (UTC) |
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British
[edit]The British are not an ethnic group in their own right. --MacRusgail (talk) 15:47, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Asians
[edit]I noticed the erased/deleted entries of the Afghan Chilean, Indian Chilean and Pakistani Chilean articles from the category template. Asian Chileans aren't mentioned at all, despite the presence of east Asians in the country (i.e. there was recent Chinese, Taiwanese, Japanese, Korean and Vietnamese immigration). Has the articles failed to meet Wikipedia policy? They were indeed short in the length of paragraphs, but offered some informative resources to back them. + 71.102.2.206 (talk) 16:39, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
- All three of those neologistically-titled articles were deleted because they failed to meet Wikipedia's notability policy. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Indian Chilean for one discussion. Please do not re-insert redlinks to the template. cab (talk) 07:45, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
- Article: Indians in Chile does exist, with the proper criteria and sources provided to be kept as is. 71.102.30.215 (talk) 01:54, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
- It has one proper source, one news report about the earthquake, and one link to a self-published piece hosted on a dead server, which I have removed as failing WP:RS. In any case please stop filling it with unsourced statements and neologisms like "Indian Chilean" or "Pakistani Chilean". cab (call) 03:39, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Arab Chilean and Palestinian Chilean
[edit]The Palestinian Chileans are so many that when spaeking about Arab-Chileans 90% of them must be Palestinians, and therefore should Palestinian-Chilean have their own article. when enought information is gathered about Syrian Chileans and other Arab-Chilean groups they should get their own article. To identify people as Arab-Chilean and British-Chilean seems to be a wikipedia invention. Dentren | Talk 11:27, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, I finally figured out what happened ... there was once a Palestinian Chilean article. Someone redirected it to Arab Chilean because it was completely unsourced, and they also removed all mention of Palestinians whatsoever from Immigration to Chile. Since I've found some sources on the topic, I'll start up (unredirect) the separate Palestinian article once again. But I don't think that "Palestinian Chilean" is a good title --- there's no one using this title besides Wikipedia. "Palestinians in Chile" might be more appropriate. cab (talk) 14:40, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Is there much of a Lebanese population? I know there is in Argentina and Brazil, but not sure about Chile.--MacRusgail (talk) 16:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
- I dont have sources yet, but I would guess that libanese are the 2 or 3 largest Arab community in Chile after the Palestinians and perhaps also Syrians. Yet, Brazil and Argentina have much larger libanese and syrian communities but Chile have more Palestinians.Dentren | Talk 17:05, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
Template edition
[edit]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Chile#Polish_immigration Poles The Polish community is thriving in Chile, including recent arrived trade workers in the then booming construction and service industries in the 1990's and early 2000's. The total number of Polish-Chileans may exceed 20,000 now, but it's not found on official demographic surveys in the Chilean Census 2010, unless many are returning to Poland by the recession and recent earthquakes (March 2010). Not only anti-Communism motivates Polish inspirations but the Chilean political structure appeals to ethnic Poles, so has the return of democracy in Chile at the same year (1989).
Also worth mentioning the Maltese people live in Chile by the thousands, are descendants of maritime workers in the coastal communities since the late 19th century. Maltese immigration at the time before Malta's independence in 1962 had Italian, Spanish and British passports. The population of Maltese in Chile is indeed small but the Maltese contributed to the economy by establishment of a few small shops wherever they settled. The recent uprisings in the Arab world led to Libyan refugees seek Malta, but Chile assisted to resettle them.
And final note: Turks in Chile (the article was deleted) but the description of ethnic Turks are found in the Islam in Chile article. About 2,000 ethnic Turks or Turkish-Chileans by nationality of Turkey live in Chile. Not to be confused with the prejorative Turco in Latin America for Christian Arab nationalities from the post-WWI Ottoman Empire, Turkish people are the actual Turks with similar socioeconomic establishment alike their Palestinian Chilean, Lebanese or Syrian Arab counterparts. In fact, the University of Chile (Universidad de Chile) campus in Santiago has a statue of Turkey's founder Mustafa Kemal Ataturk (president 1923-38) erected in the 1930's dedicates the positive diplomatic relationship of the two countries. 71.102.30.215 (talk) 02:06, 4 April 2011 (UTC)