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Lethargy, it would be much more helpful were you to mark the segments that you think specifically need sourcing...I much doubt, for example that the fact "Midway is a city in Wasatch County, Utah, United States" needs sourcing, so a more detailed rundown would help greatly. [[User:BoLingua|Bo-Lingua]] 00:20, 13 September 2006 (UTC) |
Lethargy, it would be much more helpful were you to mark the segments that you think specifically need sourcing...I much doubt, for example that the fact "Midway is a city in Wasatch County, Utah, United States" needs sourcing, so a more detailed rundown would help greatly. [[User:BoLingua|Bo-Lingua]] 00:20, 13 September 2006 (UTC) |
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:So, is anyone going to mark specifically what they feel needs sourcing? If not, I'm removing the tag. [[User:BoLingua|Bo-Lingua]] 17:17, 15 March 2007 (UTC) |
:So, is anyone going to mark specifically what they feel needs sourcing? If not, I'm removing the tag. [[User:BoLingua|Bo-Lingua]] 17:17, 15 March 2007 (UTC) |
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I deleted the part about how a certain number of buildings in Midway are required to resemble a "swiss style." |
I deleted the part about how a certain number of buildings in Midway are required to resemble a "swiss style." I did this because I actually live in Midway and while many of the buildings do portray a Swiss style, there is not an actual building "code" set in stone requiring it. |
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::I was under the impression there was at some point in time a zoning ordinance along that line. It may have been repealed since, but if I'm not mistaken sometime between 1992 and 1996 there was an ordinance along that line. (I grew up in Heber and my grandmother lives in Midway.) [[User:BoLingua|Bo-Lingua]] 00:10, 16 September 2007 (UTC) |
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There was a petition before Midway City Council to add an ordinance that all commercial buildings were to have a "Swiss" look, but it was rejected. Midway City didn't want to become the next Park City in their building code restrictions.[[User:Jazernorth|Jazernorth]] ([[User talk:Jazernorth|talk]]) 12:29, 3 July 2008 (UTC) |
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The History paragraph mentions the establishment of two settlements, Mound City and ?; the name of the second settlement appears to be missing.[[User:Cortina2|Cortina2]] ([[User talk:Cortina2|talk]]) 00:28, 9 January 2010 (UTC) |
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== High school that Midway residents attend == |
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What high school do Midway residents attend? Thanks in advance.[[Special:Contributions/86.153.141.170|86.153.141.170]] ([[User talk:86.153.141.170|talk]]) 17:02, 20 January 2010 (UTC) |
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::Midway is in the Wasatch County School District, and students attend Wasatch High School in Heber City, which is also where the district offices are located. You're welcome. [[User:Cortina2|Cortina2]] ([[User talk:Cortina2|talk]]) 18:36, 20 January 2010 (UTC) |
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== 2015 substantial cuts to page == |
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Hello, I was going through the history of revisions and noticed this edit in 2015, which cut a substantial amount of unsourced information. https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Midway,_Utah&oldid=686437860 This irks me, because as a resident particularly enthused by local history and a tour guide on the railroad, I know that a lot of the previous history was true, it just wasn't cited. I have attempted to add back the information I can find citations for and am going to continue to look for citations for the rest. This article has contained a lot of useful information over the years which just got indiscriminately deleted instead of researching the sources of the information! I wanted to preface it so that it was clear that (1) my edits are based on previous edits, just now with sources, and (2) the page used to be bigger, and I can't see an aesthetic preference for a dud page over one that is more detailed. If sources are available and citable, I can't see any reason not to add more history and more details about Midway. Anyway, that's my plan. Let me know if this has any problems to it. [[User:Ethscott|Ethscott]] ([[User talk:Ethscott|talk]]) 22:34, 2 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:[[User:Ethscott]] I look forward to your forthcoming improvements. Please see [[WP:USCITIES]], which my assist you. [[User:Magnolia677|Magnolia677]] ([[User talk:Magnolia677|talk]]) 23:37, 2 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:The history has a couple of errors, currently, but I think it's fine to keep until cited sources can be cross-checked. Primary sources are key here, as many tourist or town websites promote versions of the history that are hearsay, and this leads to a "telephone" effect, where the history told on websites may not have accurate dates or events. Good to be careful. |
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:Errors I notice: |
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:-I don't think the loggers in Big Cottonwood spread the news about Heber Valley, which they called "paradise land", until 1857. This was already '''after''' other sources spread news of the valley, including an early group of mormon settlers who went up as early as 1852 (1853?). In fact, the company building the road from provo to heber was organized in 1855, so beginning this paragraph by saying the loggers began the impetus to settle heber valley is a tad misleading. |
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:-the road was finished 1858, and the first permanent settlements were in the summer/fall of 1858, accordingly. The "early attempts" noted may be the same as the aforementioned 1852 expedition up the canyon, or they may be other events. I am not sure. These should be checked closely. |
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:-I am sure that somewhere there is information about the Timpanogos Utes' whereabouts at the time, but I know that in the first few years of Midway and Heber's existence, there were significant tensions between the utes (who were there at the same time!) and the history doesn't mention their presence aside from the brief reference to the Black Hawk war. |
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:-It is also notable that the federal government forcably removed the utes from Midway and the surrounding area in 1858 (1859?) as an act of congress and moved them to their current reservation, the Uintah and Ouray reservation. |
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:-I think the upper settlement and lower settlement sections are correct. Sometimes the lower settlement is called "smith's grove", but I think this is an anachronistic re-branding by Midway residents, as I can't find any legitimate sources for it. |
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:-the black hawk war only officially began in 1865, but the tensions leading to the black hawk war could have easily caused the building of fort midway, making the "fort midway" story plausible. I think there is further information in the BYU thesis cited for this section. [[Special:Contributions/128.12.122.52|128.12.122.52]] ([[User talk:128.12.122.52|talk]]) 18:33, 5 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== Arts and Culture section == |
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I am not sure how to go about adding to the arts and culture section; however, I do think that it is currently labeled in a few misleading ways. Swiss Days is a major piece of town identity, therefore I think it's worth expanding a few sentences into its history, and noting that "swiss days" was not founded in the 40s, but rather "harvest days", which was later retconned into Swiss days. |
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Another issue I have is balancing the need for discussion of arts organizations with avoiding commercial writing. However, the two organizations noted, Art Around the Square and MAC, are both organizations (and in the case of MAC, a building that's being built), not events. [[Special:Contributions/128.12.122.52|128.12.122.52]] ([[User talk:128.12.122.52|talk]]) 18:22, 5 December 2024 (UTC) |
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[edit]Lethargy, it would be much more helpful were you to mark the segments that you think specifically need sourcing...I much doubt, for example that the fact "Midway is a city in Wasatch County, Utah, United States" needs sourcing, so a more detailed rundown would help greatly. Bo-Lingua 00:20, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
- So, is anyone going to mark specifically what they feel needs sourcing? If not, I'm removing the tag. Bo-Lingua 17:17, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
I deleted the part about how a certain number of buildings in Midway are required to resemble a "swiss style." I did this because I actually live in Midway and while many of the buildings do portray a Swiss style, there is not an actual building "code" set in stone requiring it.
- I was under the impression there was at some point in time a zoning ordinance along that line. It may have been repealed since, but if I'm not mistaken sometime between 1992 and 1996 there was an ordinance along that line. (I grew up in Heber and my grandmother lives in Midway.) Bo-Lingua 00:10, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
There was a petition before Midway City Council to add an ordinance that all commercial buildings were to have a "Swiss" look, but it was rejected. Midway City didn't want to become the next Park City in their building code restrictions.Jazernorth (talk) 12:29, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
The History paragraph mentions the establishment of two settlements, Mound City and ?; the name of the second settlement appears to be missing.Cortina2 (talk) 00:28, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
High school that Midway residents attend
[edit]What high school do Midway residents attend? Thanks in advance.86.153.141.170 (talk) 17:02, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
- Midway is in the Wasatch County School District, and students attend Wasatch High School in Heber City, which is also where the district offices are located. You're welcome. Cortina2 (talk) 18:36, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
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2015 substantial cuts to page
[edit]Hello, I was going through the history of revisions and noticed this edit in 2015, which cut a substantial amount of unsourced information. https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Midway,_Utah&oldid=686437860 This irks me, because as a resident particularly enthused by local history and a tour guide on the railroad, I know that a lot of the previous history was true, it just wasn't cited. I have attempted to add back the information I can find citations for and am going to continue to look for citations for the rest. This article has contained a lot of useful information over the years which just got indiscriminately deleted instead of researching the sources of the information! I wanted to preface it so that it was clear that (1) my edits are based on previous edits, just now with sources, and (2) the page used to be bigger, and I can't see an aesthetic preference for a dud page over one that is more detailed. If sources are available and citable, I can't see any reason not to add more history and more details about Midway. Anyway, that's my plan. Let me know if this has any problems to it. Ethscott (talk) 22:34, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- User:Ethscott I look forward to your forthcoming improvements. Please see WP:USCITIES, which my assist you. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:37, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- The history has a couple of errors, currently, but I think it's fine to keep until cited sources can be cross-checked. Primary sources are key here, as many tourist or town websites promote versions of the history that are hearsay, and this leads to a "telephone" effect, where the history told on websites may not have accurate dates or events. Good to be careful.
- Errors I notice:
- -I don't think the loggers in Big Cottonwood spread the news about Heber Valley, which they called "paradise land", until 1857. This was already after other sources spread news of the valley, including an early group of mormon settlers who went up as early as 1852 (1853?). In fact, the company building the road from provo to heber was organized in 1855, so beginning this paragraph by saying the loggers began the impetus to settle heber valley is a tad misleading.
- -the road was finished 1858, and the first permanent settlements were in the summer/fall of 1858, accordingly. The "early attempts" noted may be the same as the aforementioned 1852 expedition up the canyon, or they may be other events. I am not sure. These should be checked closely.
- -I am sure that somewhere there is information about the Timpanogos Utes' whereabouts at the time, but I know that in the first few years of Midway and Heber's existence, there were significant tensions between the utes (who were there at the same time!) and the history doesn't mention their presence aside from the brief reference to the Black Hawk war.
- -It is also notable that the federal government forcably removed the utes from Midway and the surrounding area in 1858 (1859?) as an act of congress and moved them to their current reservation, the Uintah and Ouray reservation.
- -I think the upper settlement and lower settlement sections are correct. Sometimes the lower settlement is called "smith's grove", but I think this is an anachronistic re-branding by Midway residents, as I can't find any legitimate sources for it.
- -the black hawk war only officially began in 1865, but the tensions leading to the black hawk war could have easily caused the building of fort midway, making the "fort midway" story plausible. I think there is further information in the BYU thesis cited for this section. 128.12.122.52 (talk) 18:33, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
Arts and Culture section
[edit]I am not sure how to go about adding to the arts and culture section; however, I do think that it is currently labeled in a few misleading ways. Swiss Days is a major piece of town identity, therefore I think it's worth expanding a few sentences into its history, and noting that "swiss days" was not founded in the 40s, but rather "harvest days", which was later retconned into Swiss days.
Another issue I have is balancing the need for discussion of arts organizations with avoiding commercial writing. However, the two organizations noted, Art Around the Square and MAC, are both organizations (and in the case of MAC, a building that's being built), not events. 128.12.122.52 (talk) 18:22, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
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