Talk:Mohammad Omer Khalil

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Mohammad Omer Khalil/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: APK (talk · contribs) 04:41, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

I added some comments below. almost there FuzzyMagma (talk) 20:59, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: FuzzyMagma (talk · contribs) 09:50, 29 November 2024 (UTC)

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

1. Is it well written?

   A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

   B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:

2. Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?

   A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

   B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):

   C. It contains no original research:

   D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism: Comment: 27.5% similarity with this source but mainly for names

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

   B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):

4. Is it neutral?

   It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:

5. Is it stable?

   It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:

6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

Comments

Lead

• short description, better be "Sudanese visual artist (born 1936)"
• you can add his Arabic name "محمد عمر خليل", I linked the Arabic page now to this article at Wikidata. use the template Langx
• his date of birth can be expanded to the 8 January 1936 from this source
• consider adding an infobox and add Khalil website
• " ... a Sudanese-born artist", the link is to "Sundanese" (Indonesia) change it to "Sudanese".
• link "School of Fine and Applied Arts" to College of Fine and Applied Art (Khartoum), and the category Category:College of Fine and Applied Art (Khartoum) alumni.
• "He continued his studies in mosaics at the Academy of Fine Arts.", he attended two Academies of fine arts so better rephrase for clarity.
• " .. , especially in North American and Europe." change it to ", especially in North America"

 Done APK hi :-) (talk) 04:44, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Biography

• "in 1936 in the Burri Almahas neighborhood", remove the "the" before the name of the place. It is more like saying "the Manhattan"
• link Khartoum's School of Fine and Applied Arts to College of Fine and Applied Art (Khartoum)
• link "Sudanese Ministry of Education" to Ministry of Education (Sudan)
• Khartoum Technical Institute in Sudan is today known as the Sudan University of Science and Technology
• " .. his time spent in Italy and New York City has greatly influenced his works", change to "have greatly influenced"
• link "The New School", "Tacoma Art Museum"
• " .. School in 1981, New York City's Limited Art Editions in 1984" change to "in 1981, and New York City's"
• " .. Osaka, where he won bronze prize" change to "the or a bronze prize"
• you can add he also won the Nile Award for Arab Innovators in 2019, according to this source (in Arabic).

 Done APK hi :-) (talk) 04:44, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Selected works

• It would be better to put the art work at the 1960s to 1980s section to show an example of his work at that period.
• add the template "Authority control" at the end to retrieve information from Wikidata.

 Done APK hi :-) (talk) 04:44, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Verification and spot checks

• ref 1  verified
• ref 2  verified
• ref 3 looks like a self written CV (WP:PRIMARY verging on being WP:BLPSPS). In this instance it may be acceptable but can you tell me why you think it should be considered with emphasis on reliability? FuzzyMagma (talk) 21:00, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

I see your concern, but in this case, the source provides valuable info not found elsewhere and it's nothing that is controversial. APK hi :-) (talk) 04:44, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

• source 4 does not support this sentence “During the rest of the decade, Khalil's work was shown in Israel, Iraq, the United Kingdom, and Norway.”FuzzyMagma (talk) 07:52, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Fixed, not sure how I screwed that one up. APK hi :-) (talk) 08:04, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
• ref 9  verified
• ref 10  verified

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Congrats on this GA!

Hello APK and FuzzyMagma, your work on this GA is exceptional for any modern artist born in Sudan. I don't think we have similar ones with a GA status, and one other artist that would deserve this IMHO is Ibrahim El-Salahi. I have tried in the past to ce his bio, but am not satisfied so far. Somehow the several editors who have been working on it have created a text that is not nearly as coherent as this one on Mohammad Omer Khalil. So if you have time and interest in El-Salahi to improve it to GA status, that would be a big service to anyone interested in his work and modern art by Sudanese painters. Cheers, Munfarid1 (talk) 19:57, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Munfarid1, thank you for the kind words. I was introduced to Ibrahim El-Salahi at the same place where I first saw Khalil's work, at the African Modernism in America exhibition mentioned in this article. This is the one I saw. If I have time, I'll try to look over his article at some point. There are some additional names I mentioned here if you're familiar with their work and want to create an article. I started four. APK hi :-) (talk) 05:25, 8 December 2024 (UTC)