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== Gallons wrong under Combined Mass section ==
== Infobox? ==


It says 376 liters is 20 gallons, but it's 10 gallons. 3.785 L = 1 gallon. [[Special:Contributions/2603:6082:2800:61:B132:1DAE:4014:B855|2603:6082:2800:61:B132:1DAE:4014:B855]] ([[User talk:2603:6082:2800:61:B132:1DAE:4014:B855|talk]]) 13:55, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
Should this page get the "Infobox Aircraft" template? —[[User:Wōdenhelm|<b style="font-size:medium; color:#000000;">ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ</b>]] ([[User_talk:Wōdenhelm|<span style="color:#000000;">ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ</span>]]) ''''''Bold text''''''23:24, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

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== Incorrect assertion about why a balloon isn't sealed at the bottom ==
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The text reads "Unlike gas balloons, the envelope does not have to be sealed at the bottom, since the air near the bottom of the envelope is at the same pressure as the surrounding air."

This sentence is incorrect (or at least misleading) and should be removed. The pressure is not a relevant factor - the pressure of *all* air inside the balloon is at the same pressure as the surrounding air. The reason for the hole at the bottom is to allow more hot air to be added to the balloon during the flight, to compensate for the steady cooling of the existing air in the balloon. Gas balloons don't have the same requirement, so they can be closed all around. But in theory a gas balloon could have a hole at the bottom like a hot air balloon (although it would serve no purpose, and would likely lead to unnecessary loss of gas). <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:2401:fa00:9:210:ac03:62a3:d726:8fc3|2401:fa00:9:210:ac03:62a3:d726:8fc3]] ([[User talk:2401:fa00:9:210:ac03:62a3:d726:8fc3#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/2401:fa00:9:210:ac03:62a3:d726:8fc3|contribs]]) </small>
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:[[File:Yes check.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Done'''<!-- Template:ESp --> I've removed the sentence; my quick skim of the article, specifically the [[Hot air balloon#Generating lift|Generating lift section]], does not seem to substantiate the line. [[User:NiciVampireHeart|<b style="color:black">Nici</b>]][[User talk:NiciVampireHeart|<b style="color:purple">Vampire</b>]][[Special:Contributions/NiciVampireHeart|<b style="color:black">Heart</b>]] 13:48, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

::[[File:Stop_hand_nuvola.svg|20px]] '''Hold up a second.'''
:::*First, the details that "the envelope does not have to be sealed at the bottom" and "the air near the bottom of the envelope is at the same pressure as the surrounding air" are correct and should remain.
:::*Second, [[User:2401:fa00:9:210:ac03:62a3:d726:8fc3|2401:fa00:9:210:ac03:62a3:d726:8fc3]] already explains why gas balloons are closed
:::*Third, I am skeptical of the equally-unsourced assertion by [[User:2401:fa00:9:210:ac03:62a3:d726:8fc3|2401:fa00:9:210:ac03:62a3:d726:8fc3]] that "the pressure of *all* air inside the balloon is at the same pressure as the surrounding air." If the pressure inside the top of the envelope were the same as the pressure outside the top of the envelope, the top of the envelope would simply sink under its own weight. The difference in pressure may be small but not negligible.
::I've tried to edit the article to reflect these details. -[[User:AndrewDressel|AndrewDressel]] ([[User talk:AndrewDressel|talk]]) 14:45, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

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Modern hot-air balloons, with an onboard heat source, were developed by Ed Yost, beginning during the 1950s; his work resulted in his first successful flight on October 22, 1960.[18] The first modern hot-air balloon to be made in the United Kingdom (UK) was the Bristol Belle, built in 1967. Presently, hot-air balloons are used primarily for recreation.


CHANGE The purpose of ''Passarola'' was to serve as air vessel TO The purpose of ''Passarola'' was to serve as an air vessel
Change “developed by Ed Yost” to “developed by Ed Yost and Jim Winker, beginning during the 1950s; their work resulted in the first successful flight on October 22, 1960.”


CHANGE was performed at Casa da India in presence of John V, the queen Maria Anna of Austria TO was performed at the Casa da India in the presence of John V and the queen, Maria Anna of Austria,


CHANGE The notable balloonist Julian Nott, in the 1970s; hypothesized that two millennia ago, the Nazca TO The notable balloonist Julian Nott hypothesized in the 1970s that two millennia ago the Nazca
I would like to change this section to include Jim Winker along with Ed Yost, as he was a part of the creation of the modern hot air balloon. Ed Yost didn’t do it alone. Here is one article for more evidence.


CHANGE In 1975 to support this theory, he designed TO To support this theory, in 1975 he designed [[User:TreesAreTrees|TreesAreTrees]] ([[User talk:TreesAreTrees|talk]]) 10:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
If you need more I’m sure my family will find you plenty of proof. [[Special:Contributions/2601:446:8200:2B70:31F8:E077:BCE5:F356|2601:446:8200:2B70:31F8:E077:BCE5:F356]] ([[User talk:2601:446:8200:2B70:31F8:E077:BCE5:F356|talk]]) 19:17, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
:[[File:Red information icon with gradient background.svg|20px|link=|alt=]] '''Not done:''' please provide [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources|reliable sources]] that support the change you want to be made.<!-- Template:ESp --> What article did you intend to link here? [[User:Cannolis|Cannolis]] ([[User talk:Cannolis|talk]]) 19:30, 7 October 2021 (UTC)


:{{done}} Changes made with some additional copy editing. [[User:Tcr25|—Carter (Tcr25)]] ([[User talk:Tcr25|talk]]) 11:35, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
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== Misspelling of "Buoyant" ==
The result of the move request was: '''moved'''. <small>([[Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions#Closure by a page mover|closed by non-admin page mover]])</small> [[User:Extraordinary Writ|Extraordinary Writ]] ([[User talk:Extraordinary Writ|talk]]) 04:30, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
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There is a spelling error of the word "Buoyant" in the Thermal Airship section. [[User:Maverick.fap|Maverick.fap]] ([[User talk:Maverick.fap|talk]]) 21:48, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
:{{done}} [[User:Tcr25|—Carter (Tcr25)]] ([[User talk:Tcr25|talk]]) 23:47, 26 July 2024 (UTC)


== Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2024 ==
[[:Hot-air balloon]] → {{no redirect|Hot air balloon}} – Looking through the sources and external links here and Google, Google News, and [https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=hot-air+balloon Google Books] results, a significant majority spell this without the hyphen. This includes the [https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/handbooks_manuals/aviation/media/FAA-H-8083-11.pdf FAA], [https://apnews.com/article/nm-state-wire-new-mexico-7b14c680f47209bc6ebf84e81d190596 AP], [https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-murietta-hot-air-balloon-20190207-story.html LA Times], and others. I recognize that there are also sources that use the hyphen, but it seems without is the [[WP:COMMONNAME]]. The title of this page is inconsistent with pretty much all related pages, including [[Hot air ballooning]], [[List of hot air balloon festivals]], and [[2016 Lockhart hot air balloon crash]], etc., so if this isn't moved, they should be moved instead to match this article. [[User:Reywas92|Reywas92]]<sup>[[User talk:Reywas92|Talk]]</sup> 03:55, 30 December 2021 (UTC) [[User:Reywas92|Reywas92]]<sup>[[User talk:Reywas92|Talk]]</sup> 03:55, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' per [[MOS:HYPHEN]]. I would also note that [https://www.britannica.com/technology/hot-air-balloon Encyclopedia Britannica] uses the hyphenated form for their article title, as does [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hot-air%20balloon Webster's Dictionary] and [https://www.dictionary.com/browse/hot-air-balloon Dictionary.com]. Also, '''Move''' [[:Hot air ballooning]] → {{no redirect|Hot-air ballooning}} and [[:List of hot air balloon festivals]] → {{no redirect|List of hot-air balloon festivals}} and [[:2016 Lockhart hot air balloon crash]] → {{no redirect|2016 Lockhart hot-air balloon crash}}, as well as any others that are currently unhyphenated. [[User:Rreagan007|Rreagan007]] ([[User talk:Rreagan007|talk]]) 04:41, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
**{{re|Rreagan007}} could you elaborate on how you see [[MOS:HYPHEN]] as supporting the current name? [[User:Colin M|Colin M]] ([[User talk:Colin M|talk]]) 17:56, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
:::"To link related terms in compound modifiers". In this case, "hot-air" is a compound modifier. This article is not about an air balloon that has a high temperature. It's a balloon filled with hot air. [[User:Rreagan007|Rreagan007]] ([[User talk:Rreagan007|talk]]) 19:59, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per nom and the names of the other pages ('Hot air ballooning', 'List of hot air balloon festivals' and the entries on its chart, etc.) and many of their sources and External links. Looks like no-hyphen is the common name among the hobbyists themselves, but I may be full of hot air. [[User:Randy Kryn|Randy Kryn]] ([[User talk:Randy Kryn|talk]]) 13:06, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
*'''Support''' per nom. It appears the most frequent usage by a decent margin is to omit the hyphen. [[User:SnowFire|SnowFire]] ([[User talk:SnowFire|talk]]) 06:16, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
*Reluctant '''support''' per nom and subsequent comments. I do think {{u|Rreagan007}} is absolutely right, but there is a massive weight of usage against what appears to be the correct punctuation. Yes, you do see both, but the nonhyphenated one (or is it non-hyphenated?) seems to dominate. I looked at the CAA, the BBAC, and a load of UK commercial operators, including the company owned by my personal favourite pilot (yes, [[WP:OR|OR]], sue me) and I saw a lot of hot air, less hot-air, and that last visit clinched it. Even Cameron in Bristol, who are pretty diehard about the hot-air usage on their site, still manage some inconsistencies. Sorry, I would love it to be right, but I think we are really a bit stuffed on the usage. Finally, the joys of hypertext do mean it doesn't matter that much anyway, even if it is annoying to purists, and whatever the outcome I think the lead should contain both versions, bolded, so we acknowledge the alternative rather than claiming One True Way. Best to all [[User:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered|DBaK]] ([[User talk:DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered|talk]]) 19:58, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
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== Add "Brazilian-born" before "Portuguese priest" when referring to Gusmão ==
There are several erroneous references to Jean-Pierre Blanchard on this page.
Blanchard exclusively flew gas (hydrogen filled) balloons rather than hot air balloons.
References to Blanchard on this page should be deleted. [[User:Danielnachbar|Danielnachbar]] ([[User talk:Danielnachbar|talk]]) 10:40, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
:{{done}} [[User:Jeff in CA|Jeff in CA]] ([[User talk:Jeff in CA|talk]]) 20:51, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
:{{already done}}<!-- Template:ESp --> [[User:M.Bitton|M.Bitton]] ([[User talk:M.Bitton|talk]]) 13:55, 12 November 2024 (UTC)


== Julian Nott didn't hypothesise Nazca balloon, he was testing hypothesis of Jim Woodman ==
Bartolomeu de Gusmão is born in Brazil and did most of his baloon work in Brazil. He is known as a historic figure of Brazil, and it seems quite eurocentric (and even racist) to treat him as Portuguese without any mention to Brazil.


I was planning add it directly (because it is anyway the way his own Wikipedia article describes him), but the article is protected... so I am adding this here in the talk. [[Special:Contributions/2A02:8071:B82:6760:A5FB:F8E4:DD92:7D56|2A02:8071:B82:6760:A5FB:F8E4:DD92:7D56]] ([[User talk:2A02:8071:B82:6760:A5FB:F8E4:DD92:7D56|talk]]) 11:48, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
From Julian's website, he says he didn't see any evidence for a prehistoric balloon flight, but he was excited to discover that it was possible to fly in a balloon made with only the materials the Nazca had available at the time. [[Special:Contributions/2A0A:EF40:D0F:3A01:11D3:306E:37F5:F167|2A0A:EF40:D0F:3A01:11D3:306E:37F5:F167]] ([[User talk:2A0A:EF40:D0F:3A01:11D3:306E:37F5:F167|talk]]) 23:07, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 15:48, 8 December 2024

Former good articleHot air balloon was one of the Engineering and technology good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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Gallons wrong under Combined Mass section

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It says 376 liters is 20 gallons, but it's 10 gallons. 3.785 L = 1 gallon. 2603:6082:2800:61:B132:1DAE:4014:B855 (talk) 13:55, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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CHANGE The purpose of Passarola was to serve as air vessel TO The purpose of Passarola was to serve as an air vessel

CHANGE was performed at Casa da India in presence of John V, the queen Maria Anna of Austria TO was performed at the Casa da India in the presence of John V and the queen, Maria Anna of Austria,

CHANGE The notable balloonist Julian Nott, in the 1970s; hypothesized that two millennia ago, the Nazca TO The notable balloonist Julian Nott hypothesized in the 1970s that two millennia ago the Nazca

CHANGE In 1975 to support this theory, he designed TO To support this theory, in 1975 he designed TreesAreTrees (talk) 10:54, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Changes made with some additional copy editing. —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 11:35, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Misspelling of "Buoyant"

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There is a spelling error of the word "Buoyant" in the Thermal Airship section. Maverick.fap (talk) 21:48, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 23:47, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2024

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There are several erroneous references to Jean-Pierre Blanchard on this page. Blanchard exclusively flew gas (hydrogen filled) balloons rather than hot air balloons. References to Blanchard on this page should be deleted. Danielnachbar (talk) 10:40, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Jeff in CA (talk) 20:51, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Already done M.Bitton (talk) 13:55, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Julian Nott didn't hypothesise Nazca balloon, he was testing hypothesis of Jim Woodman

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From Julian's website, he says he didn't see any evidence for a prehistoric balloon flight, but he was excited to discover that it was possible to fly in a balloon made with only the materials the Nazca had available at the time. 2A0A:EF40:D0F:3A01:11D3:306E:37F5:F167 (talk) 23:07, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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