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At what point do we

change "forthcoming" to "planned"? It's been forthcoming for 14 years now... SFandLogicReader (talk) 12:00, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No answer, so, Done!

86.31.178.164 (talk) 12:33, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discourse/Fan relationship

Potentially we could add a little tidbit about fans frustration and speculation about his hiatuses and release dates of winds of winter. Xoxo 49.224.201.10 (talk) 04:22, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah that sounds pretty smart 49.224.201.10 (talk) 04:22, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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+== At what point do we ==
-== The writing history is getting ridiculously long ==
-It’s several screens on my iPad. We’re not talking about the novel of the century here. [[Special:Contributions/82.36.70.45|82.36.70.45]] ([[User talk:82.36.70.45|talk]]) 19:34, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
+change "forthcoming" to "planned"? It's been forthcoming for 14 years now... [[User:SFandLogicReader|SFandLogicReader]] ([[User talk:SFandLogicReader|talk]]) 12:00, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
+::No answer, so, Done!
-:we might be...... [[Special:Contributions/80.189.136.3|80.189.136.3]] ([[User talk:80.189.136.3|talk]]) 17:57, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
-::Nah. [[Special:Contributions/86.31.178.164|86.31.178.164]] ([[User talk:86.31.178.164|talk]]) 13:11, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
+:[[Special:Contributions/86.31.178.164|86.31.178.164]] ([[User talk:86.31.178.164|talk]]) 12:33, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
-:::I think by "novel of the century" the commenter above you meant "a novel that takes a century to write"! I think they may be too optimistic, too! [[User:The andf|The andf]] ([[User talk:The andf|talk]]) 21:11, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
-::::Haha! [[User:SFandLogicReader|SFandLogicReader]] ([[User talk:SFandLogicReader|talk]]) 16:33, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
-::::Ha ha, nevertheless it’s good to know that Martin has the majority of it done with him last having 1100-1200 pages done (unless he revised/rewrote them) or 75%. While it would be sad, if Martin passed away you would still have a lot of Martin’s material to release in some form no doubt even if he doesn’t finish Winds. Dream, absolutely forget it. [[User:Mobfighter63|Mobfighter63]] ([[User talk:Mobfighter63|talk]]) 19:17, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
-:::::I have known authors publishing when they were 20 years older. Although they were thin. [[Special:Contributions/86.31.178.164|86.31.178.164]] ([[User talk:86.31.178.164|talk]]) 19:23, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
-:Perhaps not, but of the decade surely? [[User:Mobfighter63|Mobfighter63]] ([[User talk:Mobfighter63|talk]]) 21:03, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
-== He lied ==
+== Discourse/Fan relationship ==
-Are we allowed to state that "he lied about his progress" when that's demonstrably true? [[User:SlapperDapper|SlapperDapper]] ([[User talk:SlapperDapper|talk]]) 22:53, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
+Potentially we could add a little tidbit about fans frustration and speculation about his hiatuses and release dates of winds of winter. Xoxo [[Special:Contributions/49.224.201.10|49.224.201.10]] ([[User talk:49.224.201.10|talk]]) 04:22, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
-:How so? I've been saying for years that he's probably never going to finish it and that if he does it's not going to be the book of the century, but I don't know that he lied. And even if he did, in Wikipedia you need reliable sources saying so. Cheers. [[Special:Contributions/86.31.178.164|86.31.178.164]] ([[User talk:86.31.178.164|talk]]) 15:09, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
+:Yeah that sounds pretty smart [[Special:Contributions/49.224.201.10|49.224.201.10]] ([[User talk:49.224.201.10|talk]]) 04:22, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
-:In what way is it demonstrably true? — '''[[User:Czello|<i style="color:#8000FF">Czello</i>]]''' <sup>''([[User talk:Czello|<i style="color:#8000FF">music</i>]])''</sup> 15:17, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
-== No updates for 2024? ==
-We are already in mid-July and 2024 is the only year since 2010 for which there is no update in the article. Please add something. [[Special:Contributions/86.31.178.164|86.31.178.164]] ([[User talk:86.31.178.164|talk]]) 13:15, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
-:Looking at this more objectively, we can’t take these possible hints, clues, and replies and put them all in this wiki page. I doubt that readers are going to find Martin posting a rose on his blog, WoW, his comments about having the book out before people start buying a chocolate version of him to eat, him talking about dragons and their role in Winds, etc, credible and reliable enough for it to be significant to use here. I personally don’t mind the long pages of this book’s development but it’s long enough. It’s an important novel for millions of people, no doubt the shows have garnered more hype, but it’s not the Bible even still. [[User:Mobfighter63|Mobfighter63]] ([[User talk:Mobfighter63|talk]]) 19:02, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
-::Agreed. Plus I don’t think there’s any real news this year. [[Special:Contributions/86.31.178.164|86.31.178.164]] ([[User talk:86.31.178.164|talk]]) 19:56, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
-:Still probably more progress here this year than what was made on the book itself. [[Special:Contributions/2605:4A80:B401:AE41:FCD7:4AD9:DACB:7FB3|2605:4A80:B401:AE41:FCD7:4AD9:DACB:7FB3]] ([[User talk:2605:4A80:B401:AE41:FCD7:4AD9:DACB:7FB3|talk]]) 23:17, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
-:::Sad. --[[User:SFandLogicReader|SFandLogicReader]] ([[User talk:SFandLogicReader|talk]]) 14:49, 28 August 2024 (UTC)