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The navigational template on this page (and other grade pages) originally indicated that it was specifically tracking the progression of the U.S. educational system. [[User:Silsor]]'s misdirected Ameriphobia caused him to remove that indication, so now the template suggests that it is now tracking the progression of all worldwide educational systems, which of course it is not. He has not been able/willing to discuss it reasonably with me, and I'm not interested in a fight over it. I personally would think that the best solution to a nation-centrism problem is to ''add'' information, not remove information. - [[User:KeithTyler|KeithTyler]] |
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== Merge them all == |
== Merge them all == |
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Having a separate article for each grade doesn't really make a lot of sense, and a single article would do much better justice to them all. Some advantages of merging: |
Having a separate article for each grade doesn't really make a lot of sense, and a single article would do much better justice to them all. Some advantages of merging: |
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I'm reviving this -- it's still an issue, 15 years on. It's fascinating as a fossil from the early years, when Wikipedia was still figuring how to wiki. If it was awkward back then, time has only made it more so. [[User:Miyo0i|Miyo0i]] ([[User talk:Miyo0i|talk]]) 05:52, 28 April 2022 (UTC) |
I'm reviving this -- it's still an issue, 15 years on. It's fascinating as a fossil from the early years, when Wikipedia was still figuring how to wiki. If it was awkward back then, time has only made it more so. [[User:Miyo0i|Miyo0i]] ([[User talk:Miyo0i|talk]]) 05:52, 28 April 2022 (UTC) |
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:And guys why are there two sections about the United States? [[Special:Contributions/2400:AC40:627:D75:C086:2E11:4AC6:AB45|2400:AC40:627:D75:C086:2E11:4AC6:AB45]] ([[User talk:2400:AC40:627:D75:C086:2E11:4AC6:AB45|talk]]) 05:21, 2 November 2024 (UTC) |
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== removing POV tag with no active discussion per [[Template:POV]] == |
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I've removed an old neutrality tag from this page that appears to have no active discussion per the instructions at [[Template:POV]]: |
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::This template is not meant to be a permanent resident on any article. Remove this template whenever: |
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::#There is consensus on the talkpage or the NPOV Noticeboard that the issue has been resolved |
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::#It is not clear what the neutrality issue is, and no satisfactory explanation has been given |
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Since there's no evidence of ongoing discussion, I'm removing the tag for now. If discussion is continuing and I've failed to see it, however, please feel free to restore the template and continue to address the issues. Thanks to everybody working on this one! -- [[User:Khazar2|Khazar2]] ([[User talk:Khazar2|talk]]) 01:41, 22 June 2013 (UTC) |
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== I once knew somebody who stayed back in fifth grade for 7 years == |
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== Proposed merge with [[Year Five]] == |
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Much of the content about the specific countries is already covered in the fifth grade article. There is no reason why they should be separate, even if they have a separate name. "Year 5" is mentioned in the fifth grade article and that is a more complete article. For not all the countries in the [[fifth grade]] article are called "fifth grade" either. - '''[[User:Champion|<big>C</big><small>HAMPION</small>]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Champion|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Champion|contributions]]) ([[Special:Logs/Champion|logs]]) </sup> 04:41, 21 October 2016 (UTC) |
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True story. I was in fifth grade in 1999 and some guy born in like 1983 was in my fifth grade class. The teacher begged him to copy another student's quiz so he could pass him but he said he didn't want to cheat. I kept joking he was in 5th grade since 1979. [[User:Whig4life|Whig4life]] ([[User talk:Whig4life|talk]]) 18:47, 22 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:No, this article is just a stub, but it would be inappropriate to merge this stub with Year Five because the numbers do not correspond in the main usages. Would it not be better to redirect to general articles about educational grades and years where a less confusing comparison can be made? [[User:Dbfirs|''<span style="font-family:verdana;"><span style="color:blue;">D</span><span style="color:#00ccff;">b</span><span style="color:#44ffcc;">f</span><span style="color:#66ff66;">i</span><span style="color:#44ee44;">r</span><span style="color:#44aa44;">s</span></span>'']] 07:47, 21 October 2016 (UTC) |
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Merge them all
[edit]Having a separate article for each grade doesn't really make a lot of sense, and a single article would do much better justice to them all. Some advantages of merging:
- We could have one article for the US system, one for UK system etc, rather than each article attempting to cover generalities across very different systems.
- The repetetive "students in this grade tend to be aged X" could be avoided.
- A standard format for information could be easily managed.
- Some actual references might be found and used ;)
- "Grade 5" could become a list of pointers to all the differetn grade 5s that exist, like grade 5 in rock climbing, in music, in different years etc.
In short, "fifth grade" would make a great section in an article about the US elementary school system (pretty much what the article is currently about), but it makes a very poor article by itself. Stevage 06:05, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
- This seems like a sensible proposal to me. The current system is not helpful for understanding anything but the US system. Much better to have a structured article for each nation covering their respective grade/year systems. Tafkam 16:01, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm reviving this -- it's still an issue, 15 years on. It's fascinating as a fossil from the early years, when Wikipedia was still figuring how to wiki. If it was awkward back then, time has only made it more so. Miyo0i (talk) 05:52, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
- And guys why are there two sections about the United States? 2400:AC40:627:D75:C086:2E11:4AC6:AB45 (talk) 05:21, 2 November 2024 (UTC)
I once knew somebody who stayed back in fifth grade for 7 years
[edit]True story. I was in fifth grade in 1999 and some guy born in like 1983 was in my fifth grade class. The teacher begged him to copy another student's quiz so he could pass him but he said he didn't want to cheat. I kept joking he was in 5th grade since 1979. Whig4life (talk) 18:47, 22 November 2024 (UTC)