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= September 29 =
= December 9 =


== Comment from {{u|Shayvidas}} ==
== I need to remove my ip address ==
Hi,


I recently created a draft titled "Draft:Shay Albert Vidas," but it was deleted under G11 for being promotional. I understand the concerns and would like to request that the draft be restored to my user page so I can revise it further.
I didnt realize that my ip address would be published when I edited an article. I am a new user. [[User:Marvmish|Marvmish]] ([[User talk:Marvmish|talk]]) 01:58, 29 September 2024 (UTC)


I plan to rewrite the content to meet Wikipedia’s neutrality and notability standards. Unfortunately, I cannot contact the deleting administrator, Bbb23, directly as their talk page is restricted, and I’m unable to post in the Administrators’ Noticeboard because it is semi-protected.
:{{ping|Marvmish}} see [[Wikipedia:Oversight/FAQ#How to request suppression]] for how to request that. [[User:TSventon|TSventon]] ([[User talk:TSventon|talk]]) 02:12, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks! [[User:Marvmish|Marvmish]] ([[User talk:Marvmish|talk]]) 02:40, 29 September 2024 (UTC)


I would greatly appreciate it if someone could assist me in restoring the draft to my user page or guide me on how to proceed.
== Proper capitalization for title of reference with capitalized by H1 tag. ==


Thank you for your time and help!
I'm working on [[DECA (organization)]] and have been trying to track down when the Collegiate Division of DECA stopped being referred to as Delta Epsilon Chi. I walked my way through archive.org until I found https://web.archive.org/web/20100708034614/http://deca.org/news/14/ . Clearly a press release, I thought the title of the reference should be the header of the Press Release, shown on the page as DECA ANNOUNCES EXPANDED FOCUS AND PROGRAMS; NEW MISSION. However, when I did a copy/paste, it pasted as DECA announces expanded focus and programs; new mission . When I went to the source of the web page, it appears to be in all capital letters because it is in an <nowiki><h1></h1></nowiki> pairing. So should the title for the reference be in ALL CAPS or not? (And I'm coming to the help desk because I have *no* idea where else makes sense to ask?)[[User:Naraht|Naraht]] ([[User talk:Naraht|talk]]) 02:30, 29 September 2024 (UTC)


Best regards,
:[[User:Naraht|Naraht]] there's normally no reason to look at the HTML of a web page that's a putative source for an article. Whatever the means by which the browser shows (shouts) "DECA ANNOUNCES EXPANDED FOCUS AND PROGRAMS; NEW MISSION", please ignore the shouty caps --just as you'd ignore the color if this weren't black, the typeface, centring, etc. Render it as either "DECA Announces Expanded Focus and Programs; New Mission" or (my preference by far) "DECA announces expanded focus and programs; new mission". Incidentally, the H1 tag does not capitalize in any browser I've encountered, though CSS may cause it to do so. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 07:03, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
Shayvidas [[User:Shayvidas|Shayvidas]] ([[User talk:Shayvidas|talk]]) 00:02, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
:Moved comment from talk page here. [[User:Myrealnamm|<span style="color:#0085BD">My</span><span style="color:#ED7700">real</span><span style="color:#2A7E19">namm</span>]] <big>([[User talk:Myrealnamm|💬Let's talk]]</big> · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Myrealnamm|📜My work]])</small> 00:50, 9 December 2024 (UTC)


:In your second and so far final edit to this, [[User:Shayvidas|Shayvidas]], an edit you described as "less promotional", you ''added'':
== DAB link in infobox ==
::Shay also manages a Facebook group with over 15,000 members, which has become a vibrant community for watch enthusiasts. Members actively discuss their shared passion for horology, share updates about the brand, and connect with others who appreciate handmade, unique designs. This platform has been instrumental in growing the VIDAS brand and fostering strong connections with collectors worldwide.
:And there still were no references. So I have no reason to think that the draft, were it resuscitated, would lead to an article. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 03:04, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Shayvidas|Shayvidas]]: I should also add that [[Wikipedia:Autobiography|writing about yourself]], if you are indeed the subject, is strongly discouraged as it is virtually impossible to write neutrally about oneself. —[[User:Tenryuu|<span style="color:#556B2F">Tenryuu&nbsp;🐲</span>]]&nbsp;(&nbsp;[[User talk:Tenryuu|💬]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[Special:Contributions/Tenryuu|📝]]&nbsp;) 03:29, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
:I would also suggest you take a moment to read the essay [[WP:PROUD]], as you might not really want an article about yourself, as much as it might sound like a good idea right now. [[User:Tiggerjay|<span style='color:DarkOrange'>'''Tigger'''</span>'''Jay''']]&thinsp;[[User talk:Tiggerjay|<span style="font-size:85%;color:Purple">(talk)</span>]] 05:02, 9 December 2024 (UTC)


== How to post on an article's Talk page that you have COI ==
I was attempting to disambiguate links to [[Flag of Amazonas]], but in the two pages that have the DAB links, I cannot work out how the link is made. The pages are: [[Amazonas Province (Brazil)]] and [[Amazonas (Venezuelan state)]]. In both cases, the link is in the caption ("Flag") for the flag image in the infobox. Is the link coming from metadata in the flag images used somehow? Or in the infobox template? Or something completely different? Any advice appreciated. [[User:AukusRuckus|AukusRuckus]] ([[User talk:AukusRuckus|talk]]) 03:25, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
:{{Re|AukusRuckus}} The link is made by {{tl|Infobox settlement}}. You can override the target for the link by setting the <code>flag_link</code> parameter. -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 08:28, 29 September 2024 (UTC)


I need to post on an article's Talk page that I have COI with the subject. Could you give me an idea of what to write, maybe a sort of template to use, as I've never done this before. [[User:Augnablik|Augnablik]] ([[User talk:Augnablik|talk]]) 03:55, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
== Duplicate arguments in template calls ==
:Perhaps {{Blue|<nowiki>== Conflict of interest ==</nowiki>}} [''line break''] {{Blue|I have a conflict of interest with}} [''what it is that you have a COI with'']{{Blue|. <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>}} -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 05:23, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
::We don’t need to explain what the COI is, or anything further? Somehow I was thinking that would be important, not just a brief admission of COI. [[User:Augnablik|Augnablik]] ([[User talk:Augnablik|talk]]) 06:02, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Please see [[Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest#How_to_disclose_a_COI|WP:COI]]. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 06:38, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Mmm, yes ... thank you, @[[User:Hoary|Hoary]], I'd read the COI information some time ago but forgotten there was something about how we could declare it with a particular article. I'm thinking carefully which of the three options I'd like to use when I start in on that article.
::::It seems to me that the option letting me put a COI userbox about this article on my User page sort of hides my COI from view, and wouldn't be as transparent as the other two options. I'm sort of surprised we can do this, as also that we apparently needn't elaborate on the connection we have with the subject of the article. [[User:Augnablik|Augnablik]] ([[User talk:Augnablik|talk]]) 09:12, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
:::@[[User:Augnablik|Augnablik]] You could use the template at [[Talk:Elayne Harrington]], [[Template:Connected contributor]]. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 07:45, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Which is one of the three options mentioned at the COI guidance page. You certainly found an interesting example, that folk singer herself being a Wiki editor! [[User:Augnablik|Augnablik]] ([[User talk:Augnablik|talk]]) 09:14, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::Well, per definition, to "template" someone like this, they kinda ''have to'' be a WP-editor. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 09:17, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
::::::But not necessarily a celebrity who’s the subject of a Wiki article. 🙂 [[User:Augnablik|Augnablik]] ([[User talk:Augnablik|talk]]) 10:30, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
:As far as I'm concerned as the OP (proudly trying out a new acronym I've just learned) of this topic and thread, I think we can let it go on to the archives. First, though, I wanted to share which way I've chosen from the trayful of options all of you offered toward my decision-making. I was just uncomfortable with the idea of slapping one of those impersonal COI templates onto the article's Talk page without at least a little explanation of why I have COI. Yet picking up on Hoary's suggestion of adding a section to the Talk page that merely declared I had COI, not adding any explanation of why, didn't feel quite like "me" either.
:When I discussed this further with my mentor, he opened the door to my solution: that I could indeed give an explanation of my COI if I wanted to add it to a section at the article's Talk page. He just voiced caution to follow the [[K.I.S.S.]] principle.
:Now I feel ready to take on COI-dom as it comes. 🍧 Thank you, contributors to this thread and my decision. [[User:Augnablik|Augnablik]] ([[User talk:Augnablik|talk]]) 07:11, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
:[[User:Augnablik|Augnablik]], I believe that [[Template:Connected contributor]], mentioned above, is the best method. I always thought it was poorly named, and thus very hard to find. If you can tell me some of the searches you performed, maybe we can add some redirects to get people to the right place faster. [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 02:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]], honestly I doubt that you'd find anything of much value in hearing about my searching to find out about COI. The only thing perhaps a little unusual about my interest in COI would be that in addition to reading the COI policy, which I hadn't read for awhile when I asked the question that started this discussion, I've also been followig a large amount of discussions in the Teahouse and at the Help Desk and Village Pump about this topic, because the topic has been one of great interest and concern to me. And I did ask my mentor a few things about the topic as well. But I must say, there seems to be quite a bit of conflicting advice about whether or not editors should be editing articles if they have COI — even in the COI policy itself. Topic for another discussion, probably... Are you by any chance on a Wiki project to help improve user learning materials? [[User:Augnablik|Augnablik]] ([[User talk:Augnablik|talk]]) 06:55, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
::: {{u|Augnablik}}, not formally, but I do work a fair bit in that area as the occasion arises. You might be interested to hear about the Wikipedia Education program; they act as a liaison between Wikipedia and formal classes in U.S. & Canadian universities whose students edit Wikipedia as part of their coursework. Wiki Ed has developed student training materials for students in these classes, administrates the program, and deals with student questions. If you want to find out more about their training materials, a good place to start would be at the [[Wikipedia:Education noticeboard]]. [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 08:43, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Yes, I heard of that. And as an instructional designer, trainer, and teacher I’ve been thinking about following up on it … after dealing with my COI issues and related editing. [[User:Augnablik|Augnablik]] ([[User talk:Augnablik|talk]]) 08:56, 11 December 2024 (UTC)


== [[Statue of Nathan Hale (Chicago)]] ==
I added two categories within a userbox regarding two web browsers [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template:User_Firefox_and_Waterfox&diff=prev&oldid=1248403337 in this edit here]. That resulted in [[:Category:Wikipedians who use Waterfox]] being placed in [[:Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls]]. But the other category added in the userbox [[:Category:Wikipedians who use Mozilla Firefox]] does not end up in the duplicate argument category. I can't figure it out. What did I do wrong? Why are not both affected? Or is there anything wrong really? --[[User:Mungo fraans ïttrë rumden|Mungo fraans ïttrë rumden]] ([[User talk:Mungo fraans ïttrë rumden|talk]]) 13:16, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
:{{Re|Mungo fraans ïttrë rumden}} I seem to have fixed it with [[Special:Diff/1248471344|this edit]] to [[Template:User Waterfox]], another of the templates displayed on the category page. -- [[User:John of Reading|John of Reading]] ([[User talk:John of Reading|talk]]) 18:13, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
::{{re|John of Reading}} I just spotted it incognito and wrote a draft that it had been fixed, then your reply popped up here in my logged in window after I clicked edit source ;) The issue didn't come from the userbox I thought it was, but one I edited a couple of hours earlier. But I didn't see that hidden category about duplicate arguments until after my edit on [[Template:User Firefox and Waterfox]], so I thought the issue came from my latest edit. Perhaps it took some hours before it was registered and showed up. Or I just didn't notice. I saw the duplicate arguments just now, and it all makes perfect sense. Also cool to learn that it is possible to wikilink to a diff. Thank you. --[[User:Mungo fraans ïttrë rumden|Mungo fraans ïttrë rumden]] ([[User talk:Mungo fraans ïttrë rumden|talk]]) 18:59, 29 September 2024 (UTC)


I'm sure there's an easy remedy, but I'm lost at the moment. The dimension in the infobox are wrong. The statue is 6-feet (1.8 m) tall and 2.5-feet (0.8 m) wide. The infobox says 6 cm × 2.5 cm (1.8 in × 0.8 in). I tried switching the parameters from [[:Template:Infobox artwork]] but it's still showing up in cm. [[User:APK|APK<span style="display:inline-block;transform:rotate(30deg)"> <span style="color: #000080;">'''hi :-)'''</span></span>]] ([[User talk:APK|<span style="color:#1a1a1a">talk</span>]]) 04:47, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
== [[WP:EARWIG]] ==


:Fixed... What you were missing was metric_unit and imperial_unit, by default it uses cm and inches respectively. Simply setting those to meters and feet resolved the problem. [[User:Tiggerjay|<span style='color:DarkOrange'>'''Tigger'''</span>'''Jay''']]&thinsp;[[User talk:Tiggerjay|<span style="font-size:85%;color:Purple">(talk)</span>]] 04:59, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
Seems to be having problems that perhaps will last awhile. Does anyone have a decent substitute to recommend? [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 14:38, 29 September 2024 (UTC)


::Awesome, thank you. [[User:APK|APK<span style="display:inline-block;transform:rotate(30deg)"> <span style="color: #000080;">'''hi :-)'''</span></span>]] ([[User talk:APK|<span style="color:#1a1a1a">talk</span>]]) 05:05, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
:Don't we have TurnItIn credits? I think that's the next best option, but no idea how to use it. I think there was a discussion a few months back about how AI requests are using up all of Earwig's API calls by the middle of the month, but I don't remember where, or if any action resulted. [[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]] ([[User talk:Folly Mox|talk]]) 17:42, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
::I think Turnitin is what animates [https://copypatrol.wmcloud.org/en Copypatrol]. I don't know that we can use it for anything else. @[[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]], if you uncheck "use search engine", earwig will still work pretty well (most people plagiarize pretty obviously, from the sources they place as references). -- [[User:Asilvering|asilvering]] ([[User talk:Asilvering|talk]]) 00:56, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Thanks! [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 05:39, 30 September 2024 (UTC)


== Finding the correct tag ==
== How to make this link? ==


On this page [[Norway women's national handball team]] in the info box on the right side, under Results, then under World Championship in the Appearances section it says '22 (First in 1971)'. Once you click on 1971, the link correctly takes you to the Women's World Cup that year.
What's the tag({{}}) i need to enter if an article contain direct word to word copy-paste content from another article outside wiki? [[User:VihirLak007|VihirLak007]] ([[User talk:VihirLak007|talk]]) 15:07, 29 September 2024 (UTC)


However, on this page [[Slovenia women's national handball team]] in the same section where it says '8 (First in 1997)' if you click on 1997, the link incorrectly takes you to the Men's World Cup that year.
:Hi! Assuming the content comes from a website that is not Wikipedia, you can use {{tl|cc-notice}} on the references section: <code><nowiki>{{Cc-notice|cc=[insert license here (0/by4/bysa4/...)]|url=[insert URL here]}}</nowiki></code> Try making sure the URL is a [[mw:permanentlink|permanent link]] to a version of the page if it is part of an editable [[wiki]]. [[User:ObserveOwl|ObserveOwl]] ([[User talk:ObserveOwl#top|talk]]) 15:31, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
:(Pinging [[User:VihirLak007|VihirLak007]].) [[User:ObserveOwl|ObserveOwl]] ([[User talk:ObserveOwl#top|talk]]) 16:01, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
::{{ping|VihirLak007|ObserveOwl}} if content is copy-pasted from another website, then generally that will be a copyright violation and the process at [[Wikipedia:Copyright violations]] should be followed. {{tl|cc-notice}} should be used for material that has been copied into Wikipedia</mark> as permitted under a [[WP:COMPLIC|compatible]] Creative Commons license. [[User:TSventon|TSventon]] ([[User talk:TSventon|talk]]) 19:19, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
:::That's correct, thanks. I assumed they were talking about copying from other wikis. [[User:ObserveOwl|ObserveOwl]] ([[User talk:ObserveOwl#top|talk]]) 19:30, 29 September 2024 (UTC)


If you go to 'edit source', you will see that details are not provided there, it just says 1971 in the first instance and 1997 in the second, without any links. How can the problem on the second page be solved, so that the link is for the Women's World Cup in 1997?
== Unable to Use Translation Tool on English Wikipedia ==


Thanks. [[User:NoWikiNoLife|NoWikiNoLife]] ([[User talk:NoWikiNoLife|talk]]) 12:58, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
I'm trying to translate an article about the company where I work from the Spanish Wikipedia to the English Wikipedia. However, I receive the following message: "On the English Wikipedia this tool is limited to extended confirmed editors, and the machine translation component is disabled for all users." I have a registered account that is over 4 days old and has more than 10 edits, but I'm still unable to use the translation tool. Could someone please assist me in understanding how to gain the necessary permissions or suggest alternative methods for translating and creating the article? Thanks you. [[User:Sabilla27|Sabilla27]] ([[User talk:Sabilla27|talk]]) 15:41, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
:Hi [[User:Sabilla27|Sabilla27]] as explained at [[WP:EXTENDED]] "A registered editor becomes extendedconfirmed automatically on edit after the account has existed for at least 30 days and has made at least 500 edits" although your account was created over 10 years ago, you only have 42 edits, far short of the 500 required.<br>As for alternate methods, firstly, I suggest you check your company meets the English Wikipedia requirements for companies, at [[WP:NCORP]] as these are more onerous than those on most other language Wikipedias. If you think your employer meets these then you need to make a [[Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure]] as you were advised in 2021.<br>I dislike most "auto-translate" methods, but you could copypaste into Word + translate that, correcting all the templates and references, and crediting the source as Spanish WP. - [[User:Arjayay|Arjayay]] ([[User talk:Arjayay|talk]]) 16:09, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
:Hello, Sabilla27. One of the reasons that the translation tool is often not useful for English Wikipedia, is that (as Arjayay said), English Wikipedia often has stricter requirements about notability and sourcing than other language versions. While I haven't looked at them closely (and my Spanish is limited), in my opinion the sources in [[:es:Metricool]] are nowhere near adequate for an article in English Wikipedia - and if the sources are inadequate, any article will be inadequate, and therefore any translation of the Spanish article in its present form will be unacceptable.
:Most of the sources (and all the sources that are to be used to establish that the subject meets Wikipedia's criteria on [[WP:NCORP|notability]]) must meet all three of the conditions of being reliable, independent, and having significant coverage of the subject (see [[WP:42]] for more detail). Only two of the references there (nos. 2 and 7) even ''might'' be acceptable - the rest are either not independent of Metricool, or are blogs.
:Note that {{HD/WINI}}
:Also, the article has [[WP:external links|external links]], which are hardly ever allowed inside the text in English Wikipedia, except in citations.
:I recommend you treat this as creating a new article - which is difficult for an inexperienced user, and much more difficult for a user with a [[WP:conflict of interest|conflict of interest]] such as yourself.
:In summary:
:*'''first of all''' , please read about [[WP:paid editing|paid editing]], and make the '''mandatory''' formal declaration of your status as a paid editor.
:* Then please read [[WP:translation|translation]] and [[WP:your first article|your first article]], and start a completely new draft by finding the sources you need. (They don't have to be in English, or online, but they have to be reliable, totally independent of Metricool, and having significant coverage of the company).
:[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:04, 29 September 2024 (UTC)


:Hello, @[[User:NoWikiNoLife|NoWikiNoLife]]. The difference is that in the Slovenia article the parameter is <code>Type</code> with a capital T, while in the Norway case it is <code>type</code> with a small one.
==Iamge and caption not working in infobox==
:If you look at [[Template:Infobox national netball team]], most of the parameters start with a capital letter, except <code>name</code>, <code>type</code>, <code>update</code>, and the parameters relating to kit. Also, this is wrong in the "Usage" section of the template doc.
:I've corrected this in the article, but the template documentation needs correcting. I suggest posting on the Template talk page. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 13:55, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
::Awesome work and a very quick response. Much appreciated! [[User:NoWikiNoLife|NoWikiNoLife]] ([[User talk:NoWikiNoLife|talk]]) 14:50, 9 December 2024 (UTC)


== Hi - we used to have a hyperlink to NJ music venues holding 1000 patrons or over on the "Music of New Jersey" page. But now the list has been reformatted ==


this link:
I need help. I uploaded an image for the [[Dexter (TV Series)|Dexter]] episode [[Love American Style]] and the caption and image section just isn't working and I've tried so many different things but neither is showing and it is making me very irritated. Could you please tell me what is wrong or correct the situation? Thanks. [[User:1zdoqnrh5|1zdoqnrh5]] ([[User talk:1zdoqnrh5|talk]]) 16:50, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
:Hi [[User:1zdoqnrh5|1zdoqnrh5]] - as it clearly states when you preview your edit (you do preview your edits, don't you?) "Warning: Love American Style (Dexter) (edit) is calling Template:Infobox television episode with more than one value for the "image" parameter. Only the last value provided will be used. (Help)" - so as it explained you needed to delete the second "image" parameter - which I have done, so it works. - [[User:Arjayay|Arjayay]] ([[User talk:Arjayay|talk]]) 15:58, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
::I'm still kind of new to this editing thing so admittedly I do not preview edits. But thank you for your help. [[User:1zdoqnrh5|1zdoqnrh5]] ([[User talk:1zdoqnrh5|talk]]) 16:16, 29 September 2024 (UTC)


[[List of music venues#New Jersey|List of New Jersey music venues by capacity (1,000 attendees or greater)]]
== Spider in my room (Canada) ==


There’s this yellow and brown spider I took a picture of it and it told me too look up American grass spider but it came up in the search a a rabid spider 🕷️ @[[User:Aerol Leason|Aerol Leason]] I just don’t know how too add the picture please and sorry and please and thank you [[User:Diamonds 0666|Diamonds 0666]] ([[User talk:Diamonds 0666|talk]]) 16:22, 29 September 2024 (UTC)


:Not in the Help Desk's pervue - try asking at the [[WP:Reference Desk]]. [[User:GeorgeMemulous|GeorgeMemulous]] ([[User talk:GeorgeMemulous|talk]]) 16:32, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
: {{Ping|Diamonds 0666}} Try uploading it to [[INaturalist]]. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 20:36, 29 September 2024 (UTC)


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== We need an update on wikipedia pages about areas in Bedfordshire ==


is there a way to make it point directly to nj? [[User:Bhdshoes2|Bhdshoes2]] ([[User talk:Bhdshoes2|talk]]) 15:22, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
I've recently been looking at Wikipedia pages about areas in the electoral ward of [[Eastcotts]] and I am disappointed about the pages of [[Cardington, Bedfordshire|Cardington]] and the second paragraph of [[Harrowden, Bedfordshire|Harrowden]] and more. These pages need to be updated. They still say that they are in the civil parish of eastcotts, which is not true because the parish abolishment of eastcotts was in 2019. I am struggling to find sources to tell the truth about them. We need to join together to stop this. [[Special:Contributions/94.194.31.200|94.194.31.200]] ([[User talk:94.194.31.200|talk]]) 16:43, 29 September 2024 (UTC)


:@[[User:Bhdshoes2|Bhdshoes2]] It looks as though the target page will need an [[WP:ANCHOR|anchor]], which it may once have had that was deleted. That list is so long and complicated with all its tables, I'm not going to try to fix it but you might like to try! [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 15:33, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
:Hello, IP user. It's great that you want to make sure Wikipedia is up to date, but no, it is not a major emergency, and we do not need to "join together and stop this". Also, much as we would sometimes like it to be about truth, Wikipedia is about [[WP:TRUTH|verifiability, not truth]].
:Not currently with how the page is currently formatted, there was a proposal a few years ago to split out the United States venues into their own page - see {{section link|Talk:List_of_music_venues|United_States}} -- if that was accomplished (which is probably a good idea) it would be trivial to make that link work. [[User:Tiggerjay|<span style='color:DarkOrange'>'''Tigger'''</span>'''Jay''']]&thinsp;[[User talk:Tiggerjay|<span style="font-size:85%;color:Purple">(talk)</span>]] 15:36, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
:We are all volunteers, and work on what we want to work on. Wikipedia is riddled with out-of-date information and outright mistakes, and many of us will correct them when we come across them. But, as you've found, doing so often involves searching for sources, which can be difficult and time consuming.
::(ec) An anchor should fix this... but it also looks like Mike is working on this for you. Although I would still think it might not be a bad idea to break out the US venues into their own list. [[User:Tiggerjay|<span style='color:DarkOrange'>'''Tigger'''</span>'''Jay''']]&thinsp;[[User talk:Tiggerjay|<span style="font-size:85%;color:Purple">(talk)</span>]] 15:41, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
:I would have thought that a civil parish being abolished would have been reported in local papers, no? [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:15, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
::yea i get you colin. I couldn't find sources anywhere [[Special:Contributions/94.194.31.200|94.194.31.200]] ([[User talk:94.194.31.200|talk]]) 17:46, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Not me but maybe someone else is looking at it. [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 16:07, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Ah, misread your comment. I'll try to fix it. [[User:Tiggerjay|<span style='color:DarkOrange'>'''Tigger'''</span>'''Jay''']]&thinsp;[[User talk:Tiggerjay|<span style="font-size:85%;color:Purple">(talk)</span>]] 16:46, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
:::If it was papers i would have to send in a screenshot as a citation mate 😂 [[Special:Contributions/94.194.31.200|94.194.31.200]] ([[User talk:94.194.31.200|talk]]) 17:47, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Bhdshoes2|Bhdshoes2]] --- fixed, give it a try. [[User:Tiggerjay|<span style='color:DarkOrange'>'''Tigger'''</span>'''Jay''']]&thinsp;[[User talk:Tiggerjay|<span style="font-size:85%;color:Purple">(talk)</span>]] 16:57, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
::::Well no, see [[WP:OFFLINE]]. Also, a lot of old newspapers are in internet archives these days, often [[WP:PAYWALLED]] like [[British Newspaper Archive]] but still. Things like google drive can be useful in sharing sources. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 18:58, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
:::I see that citation 2 in [[Eastcotts]] says unequivocally that "The parish of Eastcotts shall be abolished". So what is it that you are missing? [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 19:29, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
::::Its other pages in the ward of eastcotts that im talking about, for example [[Cardington, Bedfordshire|cardington]] [[Special:Contributions/2A02:C7C:6D8A:6A00:C7B:E721:B0BE:2C6|2A02:C7C:6D8A:6A00:C7B:E721:B0BE:2C6]] ([[User talk:2A02:C7C:6D8A:6A00:C7B:E721:B0BE:2C6|talk]]) 19:45, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::That article says otherwise [[Special:Contributions/2A02:C7C:6D8A:6A00:C7B:E721:B0BE:2C6|2A02:C7C:6D8A:6A00:C7B:E721:B0BE:2C6]] ([[User talk:2A02:C7C:6D8A:6A00:C7B:E721:B0BE:2C6|talk]]) 19:46, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
::::::"Most of the RAF training station is in the parish of Eastcotts, as is the settlement of Shortstown," [[Special:Contributions/2A02:C7C:6D8A:6A00:C7B:E721:B0BE:2C6|2A02:C7C:6D8A:6A00:C7B:E721:B0BE:2C6]] ([[User talk:2A02:C7C:6D8A:6A00:C7B:E721:B0BE:2C6|talk]]) 19:47, 29 September 2024 (UTC)


== Paragraph break problem at [[Gabe Newell]] ==
== Frances Kesselbein's page ==


I'm trying to add a paragraph break after the following sentece: {{tq|Newell opted to found Valve instead of retiring as he felt working with "other really smart, motivated, socially-orientated people to create product that would affect millions of other people" was "the most fun I could have".}} For some reason, it won't appear. What am I doing wrong? [[User:Popcornfud|Popcornfud]] ([[User talk:Popcornfud|talk]]) 15:32, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
The link at the bottom of the page which should be Frances Kesselbein's Leadership Forum seems to link to something else entirely. I'm not sure who can/should check or fix that. Thanks [[Special:Contributions/96.255.127.16|96.255.127.16]] ([[User talk:96.255.127.16|talk]]) 20:44, 29 September 2024 (UTC)


:@[[User:Popcornfud|Popcornfud]] [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Gabe_Newell&diff=1262092505&oldid=1262091706 I fixed it] by placing a linebreak after the "Main" template. Don't ask me why that works! [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 15:38, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
:IP editor, thank you, it seems the website moved to a new .pitt.edu website and the old site has been used for advertising, so I have updated the link. [[User:TSventon|TSventon]] ([[User talk:TSventon|talk]]) 20:53, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks! It looks like having the Main template as part of the paragraph was causing the problem, for whatever reason. [[User:Popcornfud|Popcornfud]] ([[User talk:Popcornfud|talk]]) 16:13, 9 December 2024 (UTC)


== Draft Declined ==
== Request that the article on the Pawn programming language be reconsidered ==


Please help me! My draft which i prepared about a famous social media influencer has been declined by wikipedia for submission.i have correctly cited and did not do any copy paste. Please do the needful.
Dear Wikipedia administrators,

I am writing to request that the article on the [[Pawn (programming language)]], i was made a draft [[User:Putu Suhartawan/sandbox/Pawn (programming language)|in my sanbox]] be reconsidered move soon for a featured article nomination. I believe that this topic is worthy of a more in-depth exploration, particularly given its significant role in game development for embedded systems. The history of Pawn and the reasons behind its popularity among developers would make for a fascinating and informative read.


Thank you for your time and consideration. [[User:Putu Suhartawan|Putu Suhartawan]] ([[User talk:Putu Suhartawan|talk]]) 21:52, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

:Please help @[[User:Midori No Sora|Midori No Sora]] [[User:Putu Suhartawan|Putu Suhartawan]] ([[User talk:Putu Suhartawan|talk]]) 21:54, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
::Per [[User:Cremastra|Cremastra]], I don't quite get what you are trying to explain here [[User:Putu Suhartawan|Putu Suhartawan]]. I also don't understand why you specifically pinged me for this, as I am not an admin.
::Just because this topic is widely used for game developments ''doesn't mean'' it should immediately be a [[WP:FA|featured article]]. Featured article are considered to be some of the best articles on the Wiki and the nomination process is ''very tough'' as there are [[WP:FA?|many criteria to follow]].
::I'm sorry, but your draft clearly doesn't meet FA standards at the moment. Nor is it ready for the main page yet. 🛧[[User:Midori No Sora|<span style="color:#32CCB9;text-shadow:0.2em 0.2em 0.2em #69CC77;">'''Midori No Sora♪'''</span>]]🛪 (<small>[[User talk:Midori No Sora|<span style="color:#0066cc;text-shadow:0.2em 0.1em 0.2em #ffcc00;"> '''☁=☁=✈'''</span>]]</small>) 23:46, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
:Administrators have no more power over featured article nominations than any other editor.
:It is unclear what you are trying to do here, because there are many things that are confusing or wrong about your comment
:# [[Pawn (programming language)]] does not exist (and [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pawn (scripting language)|was deleted]]); you linked to a draft in your userspace.
:# [[WP:FA|Featured articles]] are the ''very best'' of Wikipedia articles and they pass through rigorous review processes. Your userspace draft would not be considered because it is a draft. You would have to move it to mainspace, but frankly it is definitely not featured article quality.
:# You say you want the draft to be "reconsidered" which implies you nominated it for featured article status in the past and it failed. This, as far as I can tell, is not the case.
:So, @[[User:Putu Suhartawan|Putu Suhartawan]] can you explain what you want to happen here? [[User:Cremastra|Cremastra]] ([[User talk:Cremastra|talk]]) 23:14, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you for your response, Mr. @[[User:Cremastra|Cremastra]]. I understand that the current article does not meet featured article standards. However, I plan to improve and expand the article to meet the required criteria.
::I intend to move the Pawn (programming language) draft to the mainspace and will strive to improve its quality. I would also like to highlight that on the page [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pawn (scripting language)|Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pawn (scripting language]]), there was a fairly supportive discussion about the topic's eligibility for a main article.
::I hope to gain support from the Wikipedia community to develop this article into a comprehensive source of information on the Pawn programming language.
::Reasons to Maintain the Pawn Programming Language Article on Wikipedia
::1. Historical Significance and Community:
::Origin and Development: Pawn has a notable history, having been developed by ITB CompuPhase and gaining popularity among game developers. Its open-source nature has fostered a dedicated community.
::Legacy and Impact: Pawn has been used in various game development projects, particularly for embedded systems. Its influence and contributions to the programming landscape make it worthy of documentation.
::2. Educational Value and Learning Resource:
::Beginner-Friendly: Pawn's syntax and structure are relatively straightforward, making it suitable for those learning programming. Its availability as a free and open-source language provides a valuable learning resource.
::Game Development Applications: Pawn's use in game development offers a practical context for learning programming concepts and applying them to real-world projects.
::3. Technical Relevance and Current Use:
::Active Development: While Pawn may not be as widely used as some modern languages, it continues to be developed and maintained.
::Embedded Systems: Its relevance in embedded systems programming ensures its continued use in specific domains.
::Community and Projects: The existence of an active community and ongoing projects demonstrate its ongoing relevance.
::4. Comparison and Context:
::Relationship to Other Languages: Comparing Pawn to other languages, especially [[C++|C]], can provide valuable insights into its unique features and benefits.
::Historical Context: Understanding Pawn's place in the evolution of programming languages can offer a broader perspective on its significance.
::5. Potential for Future Development:
::New Applications: Pawn might find new applications or be adapted for emerging technologies.
::Community-Driven Evolution: Its open-source nature allows for community-driven improvements and innovations.
::In conclusion, while Pawn may not be a mainstream language today, its historical significance, educational value, technical relevance, and potential for future development justify its inclusion on Wikipedia. The article can serve as a valuable resource for those interested in learning about programming languages, game development, or the history of technology. [[User:Putu Suhartawan|Putu Suhartawan]] ([[User talk:Putu Suhartawan|talk]]) 01:12, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:::I encourage you to improve the article and work towards [[WP:FA]] status. A good short-term goal would be, once the article has been moved to mainspace and you are sure it is notable, try nominating it for [[WP:DYK]].
:::A side note: generally, don't assume anyone here is "Mr." or "Ms." unless they state their gender explicitly. Often, people don't. You can just call me "Cremastra". [[User:Cremastra|Cremastra]] ([[User talk:Cremastra|talk]]) 01:15, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
::::As it stands the draft is not even ready for article space, let alone for featured article status. For starters there is only one ref (it's used twice but they are both the same ref), a simple description of the language from the developer. There is nothing independent to show the notability of the language. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters|talk]]) 01:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::Dear Wikipedia administrators,
:::::Thank you for your valuable feedback and encouragement. I understand that the current draft of the Pawn (programming language) article does not yet meet the standards for a featured article. I am committed to improving the article and working towards achieving WP:FA status.
:::::As a short-term goal, once the article has been moved to mainspace and I am confident in its notability, I will nominate it for WP:DYK.
:::::I would like to clarify that I will avoid assuming anyone's gender unless it is explicitly stated. I will address individuals by their preferred pronouns or by their username.
:::::Regarding the article's content, I acknowledge that there is currently only one reference and it needs to be expanded. I will strive to include more independent sources to demonstrate the language's notability.
:::::I appreciate your guidance and support. I am dedicated to improving the quality of the Pawn (programming language) article and ensuring it meets Wikipedia's high standards.
:::::Thank you, [[User:Putu Suhartawan|Putu Suhartawan]] ([[User talk:Putu Suhartawan|talk]]) 03:00, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
{{od}}{{u|Putu Suhartawan}}, if you are using ChatGPT or any form of AI or LLM to formulate your replies, then please stop immediately. We only want to hear from genuine human beings in their own words here. Imagine that you took your small child to a local kindergarten and they told you that the child was not ready for kindergarten and to wait a while for the child to develop. Imagine that you then responded, "Forget about kindergarten. Give my child a PhD degree." Do you think that anybody at that school would take you seriously? [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 06:54, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

{{od}}{{u|Cullen328}},
:: Dear Wikipedia administrators,
:: Thank you for your valuable feedback and encouragement.But actualy i think the [[Pawn (programming language)]] article, need to be accepted like another wiki in another languange. In [[wikidata:Special:EntityPage/Q1929075#sitelinks-wikipedia|the wiki data about this topic]] was explain how it can be right?
:: Thank you,
:[[User:Putu Suhartawan|Putu Suhartawan]] ([[User talk:Putu Suhartawan|talk]]) 12:35, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Putu Suhartawan|Putu Suhartawan]] That wasn't encouragement, it was a request not to use LLM when replying here. A [[Pawn (chess)|pawn]] in the context of that Wikidata link is a chess piece and has little or nothing to do with your proposed article about a programming language. [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 14:34, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
::Not be [[Pawn (chess)|a chess]] article, but please think only and just only the [[Pawn (programming language)]] article. [[User:Putu Suhartawan|Putu Suhartawan]] ([[User talk:Putu Suhartawan|talk]]) 14:54, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:Putu Suhartawan, please understand that the list of qualities you give above, apparently as a justification for arguing that Wikipedia should have an article on Pawn, is completely irrelevant to that question. English Wikipedia accepts articles only if they meet its criteria for [[WP:notability|notability]], and in most cases, that means that there has been enough [[WP:42|indepedent, reliable material published ''about'' the subject]] to base an article on. The qualities you list may make it likely that somebody independent has written about it, but you need to cite those actual publications; and then you need to base the article nearly 100% on what those sources say, not what you know or want to say. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 15:01, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
{{od}}
Is greath idea. Thank you, But i need help. About, how the not English Wikipedia accepts articles all about the [[Pawn (programming language)]] article. When we know just English Wikipedia accepts articles only if they meet its criteria for [[Wikipedia:Notability|notability]]. And please can you tell about how another version of wikipedia just have with same name is wikipedia, but they actually have different rules about everythink? like, another user just was try to make [[Special:WhatLinksHere/Pawn (programming language)|this article at another time]]. but is so sad, now that article just not exist. [[User:Putu Suhartawan|Putu Suhartawan]] ([[User talk:Putu Suhartawan|talk]]) 15:15, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Putu Suhartawan|Putu Suhartawan]], each Wikipedia has its own rules and policies. There is one Wikipedia for each language (or at least lots of different Wikipedias for different languages), and English Wikipedia is generally considered to be the strictest in regards to sourcing and content. Often, an article that has been directly translated from another Wikipedia will not be accepted here without some extra work. If you speak another language more fluently than English, you could try to write an article for them instead - that might also be good practice for writing here if you wish to work on the English Wikipedia too! [[User:StartGrammarTime|StartGrammarTime]] ([[User talk:StartGrammarTime|talk]]) 00:13, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

== Clarifcation on Options to hide an image ==

Can any of you guys clarify on what the following means?

===Disable images in search widget for certain skins===
Search result images can be turned off by altering the respective common.css for the skin being used and adding a rule to not display background images for spans of the class <code>.wvui-typeahead-suggestion__thumbnail</code>. For example:
<syntaxhighlight lang="css">span.wvui-typeahead-suggestion__thumbnail {
background-image:none !important;
}</syntaxhighlight> [[Special:Contributions/2601:8C:401:6020:FC17:186C:4AF4:5263|2601:8C:401:6020:FC17:186C:4AF4:5263]] ([[User talk:2601:8C:401:6020:FC17:186C:4AF4:5263|talk]]) 22:14, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
:It only applies to logged in users who can save the code at [[Special:MyPage/common.css]], but I don't know whether there are currently circumstances where it works. This works for me in the default desktop skin Vector 2022:
<syntaxhighlight lang="css">.cdx-typeahead-search__menu .cdx-thumbnail__image {
display:none !important;
}
</syntaxhighlight>
:[[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 12:33, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
::If I wanted to add one or more images, how do I do that? [[Special:Contributions/204.10.61.206|204.10.61.206]] ([[User talk:204.10.61.206|talk]]) 12:45, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:::204.10.... Is [[Help:Pictures]] what you need? [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 14:26, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
::::No, I mean how do I block images using this code? [[User:Kidgeorge|Kidgeorge]] ([[User talk:Kidgeorge|talk]]) 17:48, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

= September 30 =

== Unlinking pages to wrong person ==

Hello,

I created a page for Seattle city council member [[Tom Weeks]] but a red link for an Olympic sailor was connected to it. I'm still relatively new at Wiki, and I would like to learn how to solve this problem and avoid this in the future.

Thanks, [[User:Bpuddin|Bpuddin]] ([[User talk:Bpuddin|talk]]) 00:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

:This will happen sometimes. All you have to do is go and remove the incorrect wikilinks. -- [[User:Asilvering|asilvering]] ([[User talk:Asilvering|talk]]) 00:30, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks! What is the code that I use to make the links red again? [[User:Bpuddin|Bpuddin]] ([[User talk:Bpuddin|talk]]) 00:47, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:::You don't need to use any code - just remove the incorrect wikilink (take off the [[ ]] on either side of Tom Weeks), or disambiguate it ([https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=29er_World_Championship&diff=1248526579&oldid=1239486730 example]). If someone only just added the wikilink, I'd simply revert their edit. If the link predates the creation of your article, you might want to disambiguate it instead, so that it will still show as a red link. -- [[User:Asilvering|asilvering]] ([[User talk:Asilvering|talk]]) 00:54, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

== Blocked ==

I am blocked for no reason. How can I create articles or how can i pass the text to others to create the articles? [[User:Timothymrandell|Timothymrandell]] ([[User talk:Timothymrandell|talk]]) 02:03, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Timothymrandell|Timothymrandell]], you are not blocked. Did you used to have another account? -- [[User:Asilvering|asilvering]] ([[User talk:Asilvering|talk]]) 02:08, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Timothymrandell|Timothymrandell]]: Using an alternative account in violation of a block is a violation of [[WP:BADSOCK]] and I strongly suggest you stop using this account immediately. Log on to the blocked account and find the instructions for requesting an unblock / block appeal on your talk page; alternatively, see [[Wikipedia:Appealing a block]] (on your blocked account). [[User:GeorgeMemulous|GeorgeMemulous]] ([[User talk:GeorgeMemulous|talk]]) 02:13, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:If you are blocked from editing, creating articles is the last thing you want to consider for now. [[User:Tutwakhamoe|Tutwakhamoe]] ([[User talk:Tutwakhamoe|talk]]) 02:26, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
: [[User:Cullen328]] has blocked the OP, claiming the above is an admission of sockpuppetry. But it could also be an IP or VPN issue; and the block should be undone, absent any other such evidence. (I do note that [[User:Fredric Jameson]], who is ''not'' blocked, has edited on the same topic, Marie-Térèse Baird, which may or may not be a coincidence).) <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 09:55, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
::This matter is being discussed at [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/User:Fredric Jameson]]. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 17:05, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Oh uh. Well, [[Fredric Jameson]] is quite dead these days, so that's another problem. -- [[User:Asilvering|asilvering]] ([[User talk:Asilvering|talk]]) 18:13, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
::::Well, {{u|Asilvering}}, that is an unexpected curve ball. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 18:20, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

== Sizemark ==

I am an English speaker, and Wikipedia articles appear in English, but everything else on the page is in German. This started a year or two ago. Can you tell me how to make it all English again? [[User:Sizemark|Sizemark]] ([[User talk:Sizemark|talk]]) 05:54, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

:[[User:Sizemark|Sizemark]] you have probably somehow set your preferences to German. To return to English go to Einstellungen (preferences) and then Spracheinstellungen (language preferences), select en - English and click Einstellungen speichern (save preferences). [[User:TSventon|TSventon]] ([[User talk:TSventon|talk]]) 06:04, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
::{{ping|Sizemark}} You can see your preferences in English at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences?uselang=en and change to "en - English" under "Internationalisation". [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 12:09, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

== What's the best citation? ==

Hi, what's the best way to cite [https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/radionational-breakfast/sydney-and-brisbane-in-unlikely-afl-grand-final-match-up/104403466 this page] in the [[2024 AFL Grand Final]] article? For one thing, it uses {{tl|cite web}} templates, which I've basically never used; I never use these templates. For another, it's a webpage with a transcript of a radio broadcast, and I don't quite know how I'd cite that even without worrying about the template; I pretty much always write from physical sources. I've added content to the article using this source, but [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?diff=1248570478 I hid it all] pending assistance with the citation; if you could both create a good citation and un-hide the new content, I'd appreciate it. [[User:Nyttend|Nyttend]] ([[User talk:Nyttend|talk]]) 07:45, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:Maybe have a look at [[:Template:Cite AV media]]. Something like this, maybe? {{cite AV media|title=Sydney and Brisbane in unlikely AFL grand final match-up |publisher=ABC |work=RN Breakfast |date=27 September 2024 |url=https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/radionational-breakfast/sydney-and-brisbane-in-unlikely-afl-grand-final-match-up/104403466}} <b style="font-family:Monospace">-- [[User:Maddy from Celeste|Maddy from Celeste]] ([[User talk:Maddy from Celeste|WAVEDASH]])</b> 07:58, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

== Request for user name change ==

I would like to request you to change user from this Makers Muse to Makers' Muse [[User:Makersmuse|Makersmuse]] ([[User talk:Makersmuse|talk]]) 08:13, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Makersmuse|Makersmuse]] Please follow the instructions at [[Wikipedia:Changing username]]. [[User:Shantavira|Shantavira]]|[[User talk:Shantavira|<sup>feed me</sup>]] 08:39, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
: Your current user name is [[User:Makersmuse|Makersmuse]], not "Makers Muse". <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 09:52, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
: [[User:Makersmuse|Makersmuse]], please don't apply to have your username changed. After all, such applications take other people's time, and "Makersmuse" has so far made a total of one edit. Simply stop using "Makersmuse" and create and use "Makers' Muse" or whatever it is that you want. -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 11:47, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

== This account is attached to an email that no longer exists. What do I do? ==

This account was created quite a long while ago under a different username until it was renamed, but I now realized after all this time that it was linked to an ancient email of mine that no longer exists. How can I change it if the confirmation email can never, ever be accessed? [[User:Preinstallable|Preinstallable]] ([[User talk:Preinstallable|talk]]) 11:40, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Preinstallable}} An email address is optional and it appears you never set one but you do it or change it at [[Special:Preferences]]. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 12:02, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
::Yes, since there isn't an "Email this user" option showing at [[User:Preinstallable|Preinstallable]], there may not be a registered email address for this account.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 12:10, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Figured it out: the confirmation email was sent to my new email, not the old one. Feel free to trout.
:::{{User:Preinstallable/thanks}} [[User:Preinstallable|Preinstallable]] ([[User talk:Preinstallable|talk]]) 02:22, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

== wikipedia page out of date ==

Hello. My wikipedia page is out of date and needs updating. Is there a way to request such updates? The wiki site does not reference my new books and other activities.
Here is the wikipedia page: [[Jamie Metzl]]

Here is my personal website with more updated information: https://jamiemetzl.com/
Thank you!
Jamie Metzl [[Special:Contributions/2603:7000:2240:32:814E:C06E:1A82:A578|2603:7000:2240:32:814E:C06E:1A82:A578]] ([[User talk:2603:7000:2240:32:814E:C06E:1A82:A578|talk]]) 13:38, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

:Thank you for disclosing your [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]] instead of directly editing the page. You'd be better off directing this to [[Talk:Jamie Metzl]]. Any claims you make and updates about yourself should be attributed to third-party sources, and the primary source you linked should only be used for '''non-controversial self descriptions'''. As well, your article has a tag stating that you may not be notable enough for a Wikipedia article, so finding sources might be difficult, but [[WP:VNT|Wikipedia is built off of information that can be verified, not information that is necessarily true]]. See also [[WP:BLPSELFPUB]] for more information about citing your own website. [[User:GeorgeMemulous|GeorgeMemulous]] ([[User talk:GeorgeMemulous|talk]]) 13:47, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
: Please also see [[WP:About you]] and our [[WP:FAQAS|FAQ for article subjects]]. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 13:18, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

== Confirmed user properties needed ==

Trying to update the [[Carrozzeria Touring Superleggera]] logo, as the one in the page is outdated, a [[User:Ybsone]] listed for deletion on Wikimedia Commons the image, mentioning a copyright problem, saying as it is the company logo, it can't be my own work, but actually, i do work for Touring Superleggera, and im in charge for updating this page and the logo.

The page notifying me what happened, says "You can read and participate in the [[commons:Project:Deletion_requests/File:LOGO_ts-PAYOFF_-_Bianco.jpg|'''deletion discussion''']] if you are interested or do not wish the file to be deleted. Thank y", but the deletion discussion says: "This page does not currently exist. You can [https://commons.wikimedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:Search/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:LOGO_ts-PAYOFF_-_Bianco.jpg&fulltext=Search search for this page title] in other pages or [https://commons.wikimedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Commons:Deletion_requests/File:LOGO_ts-PAYOFF_-_Bianco.jpg&action=edit create this page]."

How can i update the right logo? it seems to be banned [[User:M.Duffau|M.Duffau]] ([[User talk:M.Duffau|talk]]) 13:41, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

:Most logos on Wikipedia are uploaded directly to the site, instead of being on Commons. This is because Commons is for free-to-use work, and, unless your company is going to release their logo under a Creative Commons license for anyone to use, it doesn't belong on Commons. You can upload the file at [[Wikipedia:File upload wizard]], but must provide a fair use argument. Note that the image is likely to only be used on that page. You are an employee working under a conflict of interest, so I suggest you read the articles [[WP:COI]] and [[WP:PAID]] if you plan to edit beyond changing the logo to avoid potential issues that may arise when editing on behalf of your organization. [[User:GeorgeMemulous|GeorgeMemulous]] ([[User talk:GeorgeMemulous|talk]]) 13:52, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:GeorgeMemulous|GeorgeMemulous]] You may find the [[WP:NONFREE]] rationale that goes with the 2011 version of the logo at [[:File:Touring superleggera srl.jpg]] helpful when uploading the new version to the English Wikipedia. Once the new logo is used in the article, a bot will delete the old one as we don't keep non-free files that don't appear in articles. Go to [[WP:FUW|this page]] to upload your logo as non-free. [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 14:20, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:M.Duffau|M.Duffau]] New logo added to en-WP article. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 14:38, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

== too hard to edit, too messy ==

although I´ve spent a long time editing and translating, I do not understand the steps I have to follow in order to start editing.
Not even found "edit" on the page! Can you help me with easy steps...then editing or tanslating will be "my cup of tea"... [[User:Miss Dunia|Miss Dunia]] ([[User talk:Miss Dunia|talk]]) 14:54, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

:@[[User:Miss Dunia|Miss Dunia]] Well, you have now made two edits! On articles, there is a tab at the top of the page which takes you into the editor. [[Help:Introduction]] is a tutorial on how to edit using one of our two editing methods ("source" and "visual"). [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 15:09, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:Hello, Miss Dunia. You appear to have found the answer after posting here, since you edited [[Jay Schwartz]].
:Your edit there was reverted, but please don't be disheartened: this kind of back-and-forth is normal: see [[WP:BRD]].
:By the way, I would have reverted your edit too, as "from the city of" means more than just "in": it means that it was the city (as an institution) that gave the award. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 15:09, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:Certain articles and topic areas may be protected against unregistered and inexperienced editors; in these instances, options to edit the page will be replaced with options to view the source code. See [[Wikipedia:Page protection]] for more information. [[User:GeorgeMemulous|GeorgeMemulous]] ([[User talk:GeorgeMemulous|talk]]) 15:50, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

== Linking Languages ==

Hi,


DRAFT: Nischay Malhan. Ragards Surfmaster... [[User:Surfmaster23|Surfmaster23]] ([[User talk:Surfmaster23|talk]]) 17:23, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
I just finished writing an article on the German film director [[Lutz Büscher]]. I have tried to link it to [[:de:Lutz_Büscher|his German page]], but I have been unsuccessful. I can't do anything in the "Add Languages" section, and my online research has brought me nowhere. Please help me, and thank you in advance! [[User:PhoenixCaelestis|&#45;Erin (PhoenixCaelestis)]] ([[User talk:PhoenixCaelestis|talk]]) 15:17, 30 September 2024 (UTC)


:Please see the comment left on the draft [[Draft:Nischay Malhan]], which says that the cited sources do not contain [[WP:significant coverage|significant coverage]] of Malhan. Without several sources that meet ''all three'' of the criteria in [[WP:42]], you cannot establish that the subject meets Wikipedia's criteria for [[WP:notability|notability]]. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 17:48, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
:[[User:PhoenixCaelestis|PhoenixCaelestis]], I clicked on edit links, entered de and Lutz Büscher and that created a link via Wikidata. This is explained at [[Help:Interlanguage links#Adding a new link]]. [[User:TSventon|TSventon]] ([[User talk:TSventon|talk]]) 15:26, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you so much! [[User:PhoenixCaelestis|&#45;Erin (PhoenixCaelestis)]] ([[User talk:PhoenixCaelestis|talk]]) 15:30, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:::{{ping|PhoenixCaelestis}}, is that a partial translation of the German page? If so that should be mentioned in an edit summary, see [[Help:Translation#License requirements]]. [[User:TSventon|TSventon]] ([[User talk:TSventon|talk]]) 16:34, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
::::I made the article myself, but I did use the sources from the German page. I did not go in and translate the German article into English through Wikipedia, if that's what you mean. [[User:PhoenixCaelestis|&#45;Erin (PhoenixCaelestis)]] ([[User talk:PhoenixCaelestis|talk]]) 16:40, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:::::{{ping|PhoenixCaelestis}}, by translation I mean making a translation through your own knowledge of German or through automatic translation of any kind. I asked whether it was a translation because it can be a matter of judgement whether an article is a translation or a new article which mostly covers the same material.
:::::By the way, I have added some categories based on those in [[Michael Kehlmann]]. [[User:TSventon|TSventon]] ([[User talk:TSventon|talk]]) 17:05, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
::::::I did not really translate the article, I just used the German article and its sources as my jumping off point to write the English article. I have some (very) limited knowledge of German, and I used [https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/translator Collins Translator] to get a general idea of the subject. All the text, however, is my own writing. Also, thank you for adding the categories! [[User:PhoenixCaelestis|&#45;Erin (PhoenixCaelestis)]] ([[User talk:PhoenixCaelestis|talk]]) 17:23, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
::::::I hate to be a bother after our conversation finished, but I've translated [[:zh:大漢四川軍政府|this Wikipedia page]] on a country that previously did not have a page, and I need help figuring out how to link [[Great Han Sichuan Military Government|my article]] to it. Could you help by chance? Thank you! [[User:PhoenixCaelestis|&#45;Erin (PhoenixCaelestis)]] ([[User talk:PhoenixCaelestis|talk]]) 15:21, 2 October 2024 (UTC)


== Unsolved problem ==
= December 10 =


== Guidance on main article-"subarticle" relations ==
I have solve one unsolved problem where to submit it [[Special:Contributions/103.182.106.167|103.182.106.167]] ([[User talk:103.182.106.167|talk]]) 16:01, 30 September 2024 (UTC)


Hello,
:Try [https://arxiv.org arXiv.org.] [[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]] ([[User talk:Folly Mox|talk]]) 16:12, 30 September 2024 (UTC)


Can someone point me towards guidance on how best to summarize content on main pages that is expanded on in other pages, and how to link between the two, etc.? I checked through the guidelines navbox but nothing jumped out at me. For context, I am trying to coordinate [[Greater Richmond Region]] and its constituent localities, especially [[Richmond, Virginia]]. However, I don't want to put the information solely in the "correct location" at the expense of our readers.
== "Help+me" ==


[[User:JuxtaposedJacob|JuxtaposedJacob]] ([[User talk:JuxtaposedJacob|talk]]) &#124; :) &#124; he/him &#124; 02:01, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
Can you please help me to publish a page of real and valid content of an Research Academic as my sandbox has just been deleted and I am not sure what to do now ? [[User:Prof.JG.Cambridge|Prof.JG.Cambridge]] ([[User talk:Prof.JG.Cambridge|talk]]) 16:23, 30 September 2024 (UTC)


:Hello, @[[User:JuxtaposedJacob|JuxtaposedJacob]]. Does [[WP:SUMMARYHATNOTE]] answer your question? [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 11:07, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
:[[Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a manual, guidebook, textbook, or scientific journal|Wikipedia is not a manual, guidebook, textbook, or scientific journal]]. This type of material, while verifiable and accurate, isn't the content Wikipedia is for. [[User:GeorgeMemulous|GeorgeMemulous]] ([[User talk:GeorgeMemulous|talk]]) 16:27, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you, my beautiful friend; I am thankful for you.
::{{u|Prof.JG.Cambridge}}, as an administrator, I could view the deleted content. It was a self-promotional résumé, and self promotion is not permitted on Wikipedia. Please be aware that Wikipeduia is not a free web hosting service, and also that [[WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY |autobiographical writing]] is strongly discouraged. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 16:37, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
::Yes, that resource does help, along with the benefits provided by a short wikibreak.
:::Can you guide me on how best to get started and approach publishing some of the relevant articles and related patents that will be accepted..what is the best format for me to use and do I do this via Sandbox ? [[User:Prof.JG.Cambridge|Prof.JG.Cambridge]] ([[User talk:Prof.JG.Cambridge|talk]]) 16:39, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
::Good morning!
::::Articles published to mainspace are subject to scrutiny on their notability. Unless your topic has coverage from third-party sources, it doesn't belong in mainspace. Self-promotional material in the manner Cullen328 described has no place on Wikipedia. See [[WP:CRYSTALBALL]] (for your patents which are not as of yet accepted), [[WP:Notability]] (for any topic you choose to write about), and [[WP:COI]] (as you have a conflict of interest when writing about a topic you are involved with). [[User:GeorgeMemulous|GeorgeMemulous]] ([[User talk:GeorgeMemulous|talk]]) 16:44, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
::[[User:JuxtaposedJacob|JuxtaposedJacob]] ([[User talk:JuxtaposedJacob|talk]]) &#124; :) &#124; he/him &#124; 13:03, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Prof.JG.Cambridge|Prof.JG.Cambridge]] I see no relevant publications authored by you in Google Scholar, so it is very unlikely you could pass any of the notability requirements listed at [[WP:NACADEMIC]]. [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 17:17, 30 September 2024 (UTC)


== How do I fixed a usurped official website URL being picked up from Wikidata? ==
== Citing an FTP server ==


Gday fellow pedians!
I was on the article [[Radius of outermost closed isobar]] and I found that reference number 4 leads to an ftp:// address, which I believe is the address of an [[FTP server]]. I'm unable to view it in my browser, and I assume the server is down? I'm also almost certain it's a primary source so I may remove it later on if nobody else can verify it. Are citations to FTP servers allowed at all? [[User:GeorgeMemulous|GeorgeMemulous]] ([[User talk:GeorgeMemulous|talk]]) 17:39, 30 September 2024 (UTC)


I noticed the official website URL at the end of the article [[It (2017 film)]], listed in the external links with "official website" tagging, has been usurped by some commercial store. It's being picked up from wikidataitem [[:d:Q25136484]]. I've changed the official website status there to usurped and put an end date against the statement, also added an archive URL from Wayback. However, Wikipedia still picks up and shows the usurped URL from the official website statement. Is there a way to fix this? What am I doing wrong? Thank you! [[User:45154james|45154james]] ([[User talk:45154james|talk]]) 08:43, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
:You can view and download it [https://app.box.com/s/go17wcuwcf6sohwe25rz7499sjdiaqs7 here] on the web. I downloaded it with [[FileZilla]], which has much better FTP capabilities than a web browser.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 18:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
::As I suspected, it's the synthesis of a primary source in the article. I'm aware of FTP, I'm just more concerned as to whether or not FTP citations themselves are allowed, as this is the first one I've stumbled upon. [[User:GeorgeMemulous|GeorgeMemulous]] ([[User talk:GeorgeMemulous|talk]]) 19:07, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:::What protocol is used to retrieve a source has no impact on the source's reliability. In fact, sources [[WP:OFFLINE|do not have to be online at all]]. <b style="font-family:Monospace">-- [[User:Maddy from Celeste|Maddy from Celeste]] ([[User talk:Maddy from Celeste|WAVEDASH]])</b> 19:14, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
::::I understand the connection to offline sources. My main concern is that it was more difficult to get to than an HTTPS connection and only accessible with specific software, even if such software is free and relatively common. I've removed the claim from the article, as it was synthesized from the primary source (the database itself was linked as a source to back up its own existence). [[User:GeorgeMemulous|GeorgeMemulous]] ([[User talk:GeorgeMemulous|talk]]) 19:19, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:A few years ago any browser could render ftp:// url. That is deleted because ftp protocol transmit password in clear. Even when the password is normally no real password because no real login is done for anonymous access, it is tempting target for criminals. So ftp server learn https and browser forget about ftp. Maybe try checking if https protocol works instead? [[Special:Contributions/2A02:3032:308:A7D3:6020:6890:D467:113B|2A02:3032:308:A7D3:6020:6890:D467:113B]] ([[User talk:2A02:3032:308:A7D3:6020:6890:D467:113B|talk]]) 19:10, 2 October 2024 (UTC)


:Not sure how the Wikidata interaction works, but I've removed the link from the external link section. The documentation at [[Template:Official website]] states that a dead link has to be handled through [[Template:Webarchive]]. [[User:Chipmunkdavis|CMD]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 09:01, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
== Contents pop-up covers up text of Wikipedia article ==
::That's great thanks so much. I've now restored it with the [[Template:Webarchive]], which I didn't know about. [[User:45154james|45154james]] ([[User talk:45154james|talk]]) 09:27, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
: {{Ping|45154james}} On Wikidata, give the statement an end date (if known) and/ or mark it as deprecated, and give the reason for deprecation as "usurped" or "link rot". <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 15:42, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks very much @[[User:Pigsonthewing|Pigsonthewing]] - and for sorting out wikidata. Always good to learn something new! [[User:45154james|45154james]] ([[User talk:45154james|talk]]) 21:57, 10 December 2024 (UTC)


== Uploading picture ==
I'd be grateful if someone could tell me how to disable the little square "Contents" box that covers up the text in the upper left corner of Wikipedia page displays.


Hello,
It looks something like this:


I would like to ask a question about uploading a picture. Few days ago, one of my pictures I uploaded was deleted from Wikipedia. It was said, due to copyright issues. So I asked the original owner of the pictures, and he granted me permission to use it. How can I reupload a picture without they remove it again? [[User:Kgbalint|Kgbalint]] ([[User talk:Kgbalint|talk]]) 09:54, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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:{{re|Kgbalint}} You cannot upload it at all, unless the copyright owner licenses it under a [[CC-BY-SA]] license that allows anyone uses it for any purpose. The copyright owner is generally the original photographer. The simplest way to do that is for the owner to put that license on the picture on some web site under the owner's control. Another method is for the owner (not you) to upload the picture to Wikipedia Commons and license it there. -[[User:Arch dude|Arch dude]] ([[User talk:Arch dude|talk]]) 11:11, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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::Various other open licences are also acceptable; CC-BY-SA is acceptable but not required. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 15:38, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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:::''If'' this was about a logo for an article in mainspace, we could do non-free, but that doesn't seem to be the case atm. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 17:01, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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:Hello, @[[User:Kgbalint|Kgbalint]]. Wikipedia (and other Wikimedia sites, such as Commons) are much more careful about copyright than many sites on the internet. Also, part of the purpose of Wikipedia and other Wikimedia sites is to provide a stock of freely-reusable information.
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:This means that it is not enough for the copyright holder to "grant permission" for their pictures to be used in Wikipedia: the copyright owner must explicitly release the images in a way that anybody may reuse or alter them for any purpose. The usual way to do this is to release the images under a permissive licence such as [[WP:CC-BY-SA]]. Only the copyright owner has the legal power to do this - not the subject of the picture (unless they are also the copyright owner), nor anybody else. [[WP:donating copyright materials|donating copyright materials]] tells them what they need to do.
Will in Seattle
a.k.a. "Clueless" [[User:Clueless in Seattle|Clueless in Seattle]] ([[User talk:Clueless in Seattle|talk]]) 18:34, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:See [[WP:image use policy|image use policy]] for more information. [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 11:12, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Kgbalint|Kgbalint]] Is this about the logo for [[Draft:AEON GODS]] or something else? [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 12:18, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|Clueless in Seattle}} I assume you still want [[File:List-solid.svg|20px]] to the left of the page heading so it's possible to see the table of contents at the top of the page. You can save ("Publish page" button) this in {{yourcss}}:
:Also, for this [[:File:AEON-GODS-King-of-Gods-Cover.webp]] to remain on Commons, you should direct the copyright holder (I'm guessing the artist, but I don't know that) to [[:c:Commons:Volunteer Response Team#Declaration of consent for all enquiries|COM:VRT/CONSENT]]. You have marked it as "This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International license.", but there is no indication of that at the source-website. I'm actually doubtful the copyright holder would be ok with that, but it's possible. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 12:30, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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:@[[User:Kgbalint|Kgbalint]] you appear to have again uploaded an album cover which does not have an explicit PD or CC BY-SA 4.0 Licence. To be able to use the album cover at all, you will need Fair Use, see [[:File:Dark Side of the Moon.png]] [[User:Jimfbleak|<b style="font-family:Lucida;color:red">Jimfbleak</b>]] - [[User talk:Jimfbleak|<i style="font-family:arial;color:green">talk to me?</i>]] 13:15, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
.vector-page-titlebar-toc {position: static !important;}
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:It only has effect while you are logged in. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 20:33, 30 September 2024 (UTC)


== What to do about AI generated content? ==
== I want to delete a template ==


My template of [[Template:The Computer Barnstar]] is not needed. I want to delete it, but I'm not an admin. Is there anyone out there to help? {{p}} [[User:Gnu779|Gnu779]] ([[User talk:Gnu779|talk]]) 13:42, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
I believe this section was created using AI [[Dan_Taberski#Hysterical]] it's factually incorrect and none of the sources are real. The URL for the NYTs includes the year 2023, which means the source would've been published before the podcast was released in 2024. Not all of the information is completely wrong. Should I just correct the factual errors and move on? [[User:TipsyElephant|TipsyElephant]] ([[User talk:TipsyElephant|talk]]) 19:34, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:If it fails our reliability test, I would say remove the entire thing. AI content is generated by mechanisms which cannot distinguish truth from fact, and poison everything in which they are used. --[[User:Orangemike|<span style="color:#F80">Orange Mike</span>]] &#124; [[User talk:Orangemike|<span style="color:#FA0">Talk</span>]] 19:36, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:Almost certainly an LLM-generated section, given how it makes the same claim twice (what the topic is) in different words with perfect grammar. I also see the generic name [[John Smith]] in the NYT citation. [[User:GeorgeMemulous|GeorgeMemulous]] ([[User talk:GeorgeMemulous|talk]]) 19:41, 30 September 2024 (UTC)


:Nominate it for [[WP:TFD]]. As it's now in main space, the CSD categories for author deletion no longer apply. '''[[User:Lee Vilenski|<span style="color:green">Lee Vilenski</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Lee Vilenski|talk]] • [[Special:Contribs/Lee Vilenski|contribs]])</sup>''' 14:06, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
== Hover-and-preview-and-go-to ==


::[[User:Lee Vilenski|Lee Vilenski]] am I missing something, criterion [[WP:G7]] (author requests deletion) doesn't say that it excludes pages in main space. [[User:TSventon|TSventon]] ([[User talk:TSventon|talk]]) 14:17, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
Kudos for this fabulous new feature! ...except for one problem, and surely I'm not the only editor bothered by this: Previews appear far too quickly, almost instantly. Frankly the incessant little pop-ups can become a nuisance, especially when I'm hunting through edit histories; they block my view like a giant trailing mouse-pointer that I can't turn off. It would be very helpful for there to be a brief delay, maybe 2 seconds of mouse hover, before the preview feature is engaged. — [[User:HelpMyUnbelief|HelpMyUnbelief]] ([[User talk:HelpMyUnbelief|talk]]) 21:59, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Your right. I have no idea why I said that - clearly I wasn't thinking. G7 is indeed the way forward. '''[[User:Lee Vilenski|<span style="color:green">Lee Vilenski</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Lee Vilenski|talk]] • [[Special:Contribs/Lee Vilenski|contribs]])</sup>''' 18:04, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{ping|HelpMyUnbelief}} There are different preview features but if you see it in edit histories then I guess it's "Navigation popups" at [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets]]. You can save this in {{yourjs}} to get 2 seconds:
:<syntaxhighlight lang="javascript">
window.popupDelay = 2.0;
</syntaxhighlight>
:The default is 0.5. You can customize many other things at [[Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups#Options]]. [[User:PrimeHunter|PrimeHunter]] ([[User talk:PrimeHunter|talk]]) 22:13, 30 September 2024 (UTC)


== [[Wikipedia:Verifiability]] ==
== Good Source? ==


Hello, I read the article [[Yugoslav submarine Mališan]] and noticed reference #12 ''(Freivogel, Zvonimir (2021). Warships of the Yugoslav Navy: Yugoslav Warships and their Fates 1945–1991. Zagreb, Croatia: Despot Infinitus. ISBN 978-953-366-006-6)''. However, I am unsure how to access this book online to verify the information. I hope you can assist me. Thank you, and have a nice day! [[User:P. ĐĂNG|P. ĐĂNG]] ([[User talk:P. ĐĂNG|talk]]) 14:47, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
Is this a good source? --> https://orah.co/slavitza-jovan/ <-- [[User:3.14159265459AAAs|3.14]] ([[User talk:3.14159265459AAAs|talk]]) 23:16, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
:[[User:3.14159265459AAAs|π]], if you have to ask, then presumably it's not very obvious that it's either excellent or terrible. If indeed it seems to be somewhere ''between'' those poles rather than ''at'' either, then you should specify what you want to use it for. (For one thing, there's a major difference between (A) "her portrayal of Gozer the Gozerian is iconic" and (B) "her portrayal of Gozer the Gozerian has been called 'iconic{{'"}}.) And such questions are better asked at [[WP:RSN]] than here. (''My'' reaction? I lost interest as soon as I encountered the would-be flattering but vapid word "iconic".) -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 03:01, 1 October 2024 (UTC)


:I think you should direct this to the [[WP:RD/H|relevant reference desk]]. <span style="color:#7E790E;">2601AC47</span> ([[User talk:2601AC47|talk]]<big>·</big>[[Special:Contributions/2601AC47|contribs]]<big>·</big>[[Special:UserRights/2601AC47|my rights]]) <span style="font-size:80%">Isn't a IP anon</span> 15:07, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
= October 1 =
:[[WP:V]] does not require that the source be available on line. You could ask at [[WP:RD/H]] as suggested. [[User:TSventon|TSventon]] ([[User talk:TSventon|talk]]) 15:14, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
: {{Ping|P. ĐĂNG}} [[WP:RX]] would be a better venue than those suggested above; or you could try your local library. <span class="vcard"><span class="fn">[[User:Pigsonthewing|Andy Mabbett]]</span> (<span class="nickname">Pigsonthewing</span>); [[User talk:Pigsonthewing|Talk to Andy]]; [[Special:Contributions/Pigsonthewing|Andy's edits]]</span> 15:34, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
: [[User:P. ĐĂNG|P. ĐĂNG]], assuming that [https://search.worldcat.org/title/1346517803 this WorldCat link] is the book you are looking for, according to WorldCat, there is only one library in the world that has a copy of it: the British Library, St. Pancras, London. Their website is currently down or limited due to a cyberattack ([https://www.bl.uk/visit/ Contact page]), but you could try calling or emailing them at customer@bl.uk and if you are lucky, they will pull the book for you and look up the information and get back to you, if it is just a matter of verifying an assertion in the article. Alternatively, you could ask the editor who added the citation if they have a copy of it. As there are multiple citations to Freivogel in the article but no #12 that does, I can't determine which part of the article text you are referring to; however, one editor who cited the Freivogel article was {{u|Peacemaker67}} on October 2, 2023 ([[Special:Diff/1178213471|here]]); {{they|Peacemaker67}} also added the citation to the Bibliography a [[Special:Diff/1177755328|few days earlier]]. You could ask {{them|Peacemaker67}} if {{they have|Peacemaker67}} a copy of the book, or can get one.
: P.S. come to think of it, the cyberattack is probably limiting their library list function, so maybe lots of other libraries have it, too, and their website will show you the library closest to you that has it when the website is fully functional; maybe try again in a day or two. [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 00:22, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
::Yes, I have a copy of the book. Email me and I'll send you the relevant pages. Cheers, [[User:Peacemaker67|Peacemaker67]] ([[User_talk:Peacemaker67|click to talk to me]]) 00:24, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
:I have emailed Peacemaker67 to request access to a copy of the book as he suggested. Thank you all for your enthusiastic assistance. Wishing you and your family a wonderful day. [[User:P. ĐĂNG|P. ĐĂNG]] ([[User talk:P. ĐĂNG|talk]]) 04:22, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
::Done. Cheers, [[User:Peacemaker67|Peacemaker67]] ([[User_talk:Peacemaker67|click to talk to me]]) 06:44, 11 December 2024 (UTC)


== Some Wikipedia pages are not indexed by search engines ==
== Hindi ==


Hello!
Mujhe book chahiye [[Special:Contributions/2409:40E5:1C:2918:8000:0:0:0|2409:40E5:1C:2918:8000:0:0:0]] ([[User talk:2409:40E5:1C:2918:8000:0:0:0|talk]]) 12:18, 1 October 2024 (UTC)


I noticed that some Wikipedia pages are not indexed by search engines. For example [[Nova TV (Ireland)]] and [[List of NCAA Division I women's soccer season goals leaders]]
:This is a place for asking question about using Wikipedia, please make your point clear. [[User:Tutwakhamoe|Tutwakhamoe]] ([[User talk:Tutwakhamoe|talk]]) 12:35, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
:What book do you want, and why are you asking for it here? [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 13:55, 1 October 2024 (UTC)


How can this be fixed? [[User:Sanidelle|Sanidelle]] ([[User talk:Sanidelle|talk]]) 15:43, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
== Places of interest near me ==


Is there a section of Wikipedia that lists places of interest near me? [[Special:Contributions/47.225.248.202|47.225.248.202]] ([[User talk:47.225.248.202|talk]]) 14:29, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
:You don't need the whole url when linking. These articles may need to be reviewed by a [[WP:NPP|New Pages Patroller]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 15:47, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
: {{u|Sanidelle}} Nova TV has a meta "noindex,nofollow" instruction to search engines (Html line 29) because it hasn't been patrolled; the women's soccer article does not have this, and is already indexed and findable on Google search, as expected. [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 23:31, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
:There is nothing that needs to be ''fixed'' -- they first have to be patrolled and then indexed by Google, they both take time, but nothing overtly looks like it needs correcting. [[User:Tiggerjay|<span style='color:DarkOrange'>'''Tigger'''</span>'''Jay''']]&thinsp;[[User talk:Tiggerjay|<span style="font-size:85%;color:Purple">(talk)</span>]] 03:51, 12 December 2024 (UTC)


== Parliamentary Seat Distribution Chart ==
:[[Special:Nearby]]. [[User:GeorgeMemulous|GeorgeMemulous]] ([[User talk:GeorgeMemulous|talk]]) 14:35, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
:IP editor. Wikipedia has articles about places all over the globe. Judging by your IP address, you might want to start at [[Madison (town), Wisconsin|Madison]]. The encyclopaedia itself will not automatically base suggestions on where you are from: I had to look up your ISP. [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 14:36, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
::... unless you authorise location-based settings at [[Special:Nearby]], as just suggested. [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 14:38, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you, {{u|GeorgeMemulous}}, for giving that link. I'm impressed. I've found an article I didn't know existed, about a road ten minutes walk from here. [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 16:47, 1 October 2024 (UTC)


Good day,
== Ex abbot of wat sampran dragon temple was not a sexual abuser but victim of a criminal organization to destroy him ==


I am an editor, and would like to ask what application (website) most editors use to create the parliamentary seat charts on most articles? (Ref: [[List of members of the 6th National Assembly of Namibia]]).
i wish that the Wikipedia give opportunity for writing my testimony as a devoted of such a saint Chamlong Khonsue . I was mentioned before I met him by two prophetess in america that I was to meet the master of the father of my boys an ex monk from Thailand d dragon temple , disciple of dragon monk as we call luang pho Bhavana Buddho . He is a saint , enlighten that under the hands <redacted>. The saint did not accepted and request them all to allow him serve the prison , sacrifice himself as a bodhisattva into prison to help the inmates and officers to go to heaven . So , I was in the mission to bring this testimony to king of Thailand , to pm , all vip , to united nations and since always till today we are blocked , oppressed , persecuted by the criminal organization that block this dragon temple the source of economical and spiritual power for all the world . A monument for peace and salvation for the world from the Christ version chinese.


Regards [[User:GMilø19|GMilø19]] ([[User talk:GMilø19|talk]]) 17:45, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
Please clarify both version of Wikipedia ...
I took him out of prison by a royal pardon 5 December 2019 in the occasion of father's day the happy birthday of lord Rama 9 . Thanks [[Special:Contributions/2603:9001:68F0:86E0:241F:8D54:576C:58B|2603:9001:68F0:86E0:241F:8D54:576C:58B]] ([[User talk:2603:9001:68F0:86E0:241F:8D54:576C:58B|talk]]) 18:31, 1 October 2024 (UTC)


:The English-language Wikipedia has no article on Chamlong Khonsue. If it did, any article content would be based on published reliable sources, and not on the 'testimony' of a devotee. [[User:AndyTheGrump|AndyTheGrump]] ([[User talk:AndyTheGrump|talk]]) 18:37, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
:The upload comment for that image says "Direct upload from the ParliamentDiagram tool". As far as I can tell, that is at https://parliamentdiagram.toolforge.org/archinputform [[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 19:08, 10 December 2024 (UTC)


== What does the [[Wikipedia:Growth Team features/Mentor list|"Ask your mentor a question"]] button look like (in desktop vs mobile web vs app) ==
== Linking to articles ==


Multiple times, I've had mentees ask me duplicates of the same question, or their actual question followed by another "question" that is a comment they meant to append to the first one. I suspect the form they use to ask questions is misleading/does not properly inform them, leading to these mistakes. Anyone have a screenshot? [[User talk:Mach61|Mach61]] 18:08, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
I am unsure if the edits I have tried to make are against guidelines. I work for a non profit that promotes all things happening in Salt Lake County and I was linking to additional resources on Salt Lakes page. I understand edits need to be made in order to build out a page for the non profit, which would just focus on tourism in salt lake county. is this allowed? [[User:Visit Salt Lake|Visit Salt Lake]] ([[User talk:Visit Salt Lake|talk]]) 20:38, 1 October 2024 (UTC)


:@[[User:Mach61|Mach61]], I'm not good at screenshots. The button is on a user's "Homepage" tab in a box partway down on the right that introduced the mentor. It is a rectangle that says "Ask your mentor a question about editing". In the mobile view only part of the mentor section is available but there is a "?" on the mentor icon. Clicking that brings up the rectangle that serves as the button. You can enable your own newcomer Homepage and see what newcomers see by going to the very bottom of the "User Profile" tab in "Preferences". Hope this helps. [[User:StarryGrandma|StarryGrandma]] ([[User talk:StarryGrandma|talk]]) 19:05, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
:The safest thing to do is to propose changes at the article talk page as you clearly have a [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]] as you appear to represent an organisation. There is also an issue with your username, which should be personal to you rather than an organisation - see [[WP:ORGNAME]]. If you are being paid by the organisation, see also [[WP:PAID]]. [[User:Mikenorton|Mikenorton]] ([[User talk:Mikenorton|talk]]) 20:54, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
:Screenshot: [[File:Screenshot of newcomer homepage on Czech Wikipedia 2020-03-25.png|thumb]] [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 19:26, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
::@[[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] @[[User:StarryGrandma|StarryGrandma]] Thanks! [[User talk:Mach61|Mach61]] 19:34, 10 December 2024 (UTC)


= December 11 =
== How do I make an "episode table" collapsible ==


== How can school records be saved ==
Hi. I want to make an existing "Episode table" template table collapsible, default: collapsed. I've tried wrapping it in "{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" |+ ... |}, which I found somewhere, but that doesn't seem to do anything.


Re: Paul Martin (illustrator). He attended an art school in the early 1900s. It's stated in the article and backed up with a reference from the ''New York Times.'' But the article also states the years he attended and his instructors. That can only be backed up with the old record cards (similar to 3x5 cards) on file. I received a scan of them, but I don't think the picture can be downloaded to Commons due to copyright issues. Do they still apply to something dated to 1906? That date is on the card. Can the picture be downloaded to Wayback instead and reachable via a reference in the WP article? Can the picture just be downsized? Thanks. [[User:JimPercy|JimPercy]] ([[User talk:JimPercy|talk]]) 11:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
Thanks! [[User:Tsavage|Tsavage]] ([[User talk:Tsavage|talk]]) 20:42, 1 October 2024 (UTC)


:The article [[Paul Martin (illustrator)]] already goes into mind-boggling detail and digressions: see [[Paul_Martin_(illustrator)#cite_note-152|note "n"]] in particular. Is it perhaps time to do some pruning of the article's content? -- [[User:Hoary|Hoary]] ([[User talk:Hoary|talk]]) 12:17, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Tsavage|Tsavage]] I think that there is useful documentation at {{tl|table}}. Disclaimer: I've never created a table! [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 21:35, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
::Half of article's bytes are in references and hiddens and necessary to back up content. Note "n" is about a model twice pictured in the article (Foreign service cover, H-O poster). So you think that should be scaled back or mostly eliminated or hidden. [[User:JimPercy|JimPercy]] ([[User talk:JimPercy|talk]]) 14:07, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks. Nothing there helped. The table remains uncollapsed. [[User:Tsavage|Tsavage]] ([[User talk:Tsavage|talk]]) 22:31, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
:{{U|JimPercy}}, whence did you receive the scan? Offline materials that can be accessed at or requested from institutional archives can still be cited with {{tl|cite archive}}. If received from someone's personal collection, the information cannot be cited at all, even if you upload it somewhere, due to the unverifiable paper trail. [[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]] ([[User talk:Folly Mox|talk]]) 13:50, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:Tsavage|Tsavage]]: Don't make content which is not visible when an article is shown. See [[MOS:DONTHIDE]]. [[User:Bazza_7|Bazza&nbsp;<span style="color:grey">7</span>]] ([[User_talk:Bazza_7|talk]]) 22:09, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
::In the case at hand, I'd argue that the table contains supplementary information. (It's a partial list of episode titles of a show related to the main article subject.) [[User:Tsavage|Tsavage]] ([[User talk:Tsavage|talk]]) 22:34, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
::Scan received from Archives of American Art, Smithsonian Institution. His school is also mentioned in the Infobox. [[User:JimPercy|JimPercy]] ([[User talk:JimPercy|talk]]) 14:10, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Sounds like the material you received can be cited without any image upload necessary. I don't understand [[:c:Help:Public domain]] well enough to determine if your scan can be uploaded: there are some categories of 1906 U.S. media whose copyrights don't expire till 2026. [[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]] ([[User talk:Folly Mox|talk]]) 18:58, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
::::But an image offers more proof. There is already a citation in place. Maybe I can just upload to Wayback two of the three "record cards." (I would just have to crop out the third card from the image.) They date to 1902 and 1903. Out of copyright? The most important detail is on those two cards, anyway. They both list the artist's name, address, birthdate, date of admission, and enrolled classes. [[User:JimPercy|JimPercy]] ([[User talk:JimPercy|talk]]) 19:40, 11 December 2024 (UTC) Update. It seems that template at Commons would work. The second card is dated Oct. 1903 (for school year '03-'04), so that predates 1904. [[User:JimPercy|JimPercy]] ([[User talk:JimPercy|talk]]) 20:44, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
:I guess I'm not understanding why you feel the need to upload the file? As Folly stated, you can simply cite it -- unless someone is contesting this? I didn't see any mention or reverts on the article page itself. [[User:Tiggerjay|<span style='color:DarkOrange'>'''Tigger'''</span>'''Jay''']]&thinsp;[[User talk:Tiggerjay|<span style="font-size:85%;color:Purple">(talk)</span>]] 03:49, 12 December 2024 (UTC)


== How to nominate a website for blacklisting ==
== Harmful user ==


Over the years, several IP editors have attempted to insert links to a certain commercial website. I think it is time to blacklist that website. [[User:Constant314|<b style="color: #4400bb;">''Constant314''</b>]] ([[User talk:Constant314|talk]]) 13:36, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
I've warned user:Sinclairian about the biased, inaccurate, and harmful edits they've been doing. These are on very niche topics that nobody's ever, ever going to notice. Like who's gonna actually check the source translation on the [[Arslan Tash amulets]]? Well, I did because the translation is so scrabblingly amateurish, (Also because I always look lately when I see that username on one of my watched articles) and the user's rendering of it actually had some "improvements" that might make the scholar look better or worse. The reader would think the translation has been accurately copied and pasted when that's not the case. The other translation's even worse by some scholar I don't know. Someone legitimate, I'm sure, but not good. I think questionable artifacts should be categorized as such and noted in the first paragraph, and translastions of questioned items and forgeries shouldn't be included for obvious reasons. Anyway, I think the user should be banned. Inaccurcies on minor Semitic languages that a dozen people know will stick around forever; the quietness of it means the ripples on public knowledge will spread with no end. Very subtly destructive stuff. (Sorry if this is the wrong place, it's my first time reporting a user.)
[[User:Temerarius|Temerarius]] ([[User talk:Temerarius|talk]]) 23:01, 1 October 2024 (UTC)


:User conduct is discussed at [[WP:ANI]]. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 23:31, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
:{{U|Constant314}}, see {{slink|MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist|Proposed additions}}. [[User:Folly Mox|Folly Mox]] ([[User talk:Folly Mox|talk]]) 13:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
::Thank you. [[User:Constant314|<b style="color: #4400bb;">''Constant314''</b>]] ([[User talk:Constant314|talk]]) 13:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)


= October 2 =
== Another question ==


What does it mean if a language has a star icon next to it? [[User:User332224|User332224]] ([[User talk:User332224|talk]]) 15:51, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
== About application Britain society address ==


:{{ping|User332224}} Assuming you're referring to in the list of languages on an article sidebar, the stars indicate that the article's equivalent on that language's Wikipedia is considered a [[WP:FA|featured article]] (if the star is gold) or [[WP:GA|good article]] (if silver) by that project. [[User:ModernDayTrilobite|ModernDayTrilobite]] ([[User talk:ModernDayTrilobite|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ModernDayTrilobite|contribs]]) 16:40, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
please send me info on Britain society address [[User:Marcellintehe|Marcellintehe]] ([[User talk:Marcellintehe|talk]]) 05:17, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
:{{u|Marcellintehe}}, nobody here has any idea what you are talking about. Clarity is required. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 06:12, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
::Maybe {{u|Marcellintehe}} is looking for something like [https://debretts.com/peerage/the-peerage/courtesy-titles/ this]? Just a guess. [[User:Maproom|Maproom]] ([[User talk:Maproom|talk]]) 06:37, 2 October 2024 (UTC)


== [[WP:CALC]] on a simple claim ==
== A professor running some student editing thing? ==


Is it acceptable to state that the Little Rock tornado was the first to touch down in the March 31 tornado outbreak? This can be verified [https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/stormevents/listevents.jsp?eventType=%28C%29+Tornado&beginDate_mm=03&beginDate_dd=31&beginDate_yyyy=2023&endDate_mm=04&endDate_dd=01&endDate_yyyy=2023&hailfilter=0.00&tornfilter=0&windfilter=000&sort=DT&submitbutton=Search&statefips=-999%2CALL here] on the storm events database, typically considered reliable, where it is the first entry chronologically (titled MARTINDALE, but entails Little Rock). [[User:Departure–|Departure–]] ([[User talk:Departure–|talk]]) 16:49, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
This is the AGF way to look at it, though I also see LLMs in use, at least in the summaries, but [[User talk:Noah Theodore Johnson]], whose user page says they are a professor, has created a few articles where most accounts who edited it are accounts with nearly no edits elsewhere and usually who have edited in multiple of their created articles. Could someone who knows how these things should be ran and/or who has more time to investigate than me, give this a look? &ndash; [[Special:Contributions/2804:F14:8094:7D01:C454:8E52:87ED:16CD|2804:F1...ED:16CD]] ([[User talk:2804:F14:8094:7D01:C454:8E52:87ED:16CD|talk]]) 05:44, 2 October 2024 (UTC)


:Generally speaking, I would say that if something was chronologically first, then that would be okay. At worst I would [[WP:BRD|boldly]] add it to the article. But if it reverted or contested, take it to the talk page, as there might be other reasons beyond simple CALC that is involved. [[User:Tiggerjay|<span style='color:DarkOrange'>'''Tigger'''</span>'''Jay''']]&thinsp;[[User talk:Tiggerjay|<span style="font-size:85%;color:Purple">(talk)</span>]] 00:13, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:Erm, I still don't have time to do more investigation, but more investigation let me find out that one of the involved accounts, [[Special:Contributions/CronoWiki|CronoWiki]], is checkuser blocked in pt wiki as a sock of an user who's been socking since 2022 (who does not seem to have a sock case in this wiki). Which is at least suspicious. &ndash; [[Special:Contributions/2804:F14:8094:7D01:C454:8E52:87ED:16CD|2804:F1...ED:16CD]] ([[User talk:2804:F14:8094:7D01:C454:8E52:87ED:16CD|talk]]) 05:49, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
::[[User:Opaulista]] and [[User:TransWikipro]] were also sockpuppets of Oliver Lex. This might warrant a sock investigation. <span style="font-family: times new romans;">[[User:Industrial Insect|Industrial Insect]] [[User talk:Industrial Insect|(talk)]]</span> 14:45, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
:::Plus [[User:Rabino Eli Schlesinger]]. Almost all the new users editing that page were socks of Oliver Lex. <span style="font-family: times new romans;">[[User:Industrial Insect|Industrial Insect]] [[User talk:Industrial Insect|(talk)]]</span> 14:49, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
::::Somehow I missed [[User:Oliver Lex]] themself editing the article. I haven't found reason enough to believe that the article creator is involved, with the exception of how quickly after the article creation the socks started editing. <span style="font-family: times new romans;">[[User:Industrial Insect|Industrial Insect]] [[User talk:Industrial Insect|(talk)]]</span> 14:56, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
:::::@[[User:Industrial Insect|Industrial Insect]]: Ah, thank you for making the SPI case, I was struggling to type all the accounts, just [[Special:PageHistory/Sephardic surnames|Sephardic surnames]] had a whole bunch. @[[User:Izno|Izno]](thank you too!) also requested a global lock for them after checking them, so they have all been globally locked now. &ndash; [[Special:Contributions/2804:F14:809E:1401:D06A:A5D1:7293:F040|2804:F14:809E:1401:D06A:A5D1:7293:F040]] ([[User talk:2804:F14:809E:1401:D06A:A5D1:7293:F040|talk]]) 21:21, 2 October 2024 (UTC)


== Disambiguating pages where visitors overwhelmingly go to a particular topic ==
== missing/broken links ==


Some time ago, I opened a RM to move [[Android]] to [[Android (disambiguation)]] and retarget to the operating system. There was a unanimous consensus against that. What I'm wondering about is where the line of when to disambiguate versus redirect lies. Visitors to [[Dime]] and [[English]] overwhelmingly go to the American coin and the language, respectively, but would I be correct in my reading of [[Wikipedia:1OTHERPRIMARY|WP:1OTHER PRIMARY]] that a redirect would be justified in these cases?
What if a reference link no longer works and the document can't be found? Do I remove the reference, or make a note that the article can no longer be found? I see several of these issues on a page I'm editing. [[User:EllieNowels|EllieNowels]] ([[User talk:EllieNowels|talk]]) 19:39, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
:@[[User:EllieNowels|EllieNowels]], see [[WP:DEADLINK]]. Links from Wikipedia are archived by the Wayback Machine, so in most cases, a copy will be available at [https://archive.org/ archive.org]. <b style="font-family:Monospace">-- [[User:Maddy from Celeste|Maddy from Celeste]] ([[User talk:Maddy from Celeste|WAVEDASH]])</b> 19:42, 2 October 2024 (UTC)


== Help adding name in a family tree ==


https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&title=English
I would like to add the names of the descendants of Buenaventura Báez former president of the Dominican Republic.


https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&title=Dime
The children need to go under the fathers name José Miguel Báez Figueroa( Raquel Cristina Baez Rauch & Jose Miguel Baez Rauch) and two grandchildren ( Gina Sofia Baez Castro & Ana Amaelia Baez Castro).


I am placing the asterisks but is not publishing [[User:OPM1962|OPM1962]] ([[User talk:OPM1962|talk]]) 19:58, 2 October 2024 (UTC)


Thanks
== foreign Wikipedia articles? ==


cut-pastes from foreign Wikipedia articles: well-received or deprecated? [[User:Enri999|Enri999]] ([[User talk:Enri999|talk]]) 21:09, 2 October 2024 (UTC)


'''[[User:JayCubby|<span style="background:#0a0e33;color:white;padding:2px;">Jay</span>]][[User talk:JayCubby|<span style="background:#1a237e;color:white;padding:2px;">Cubby</span>]]''' 20:09, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
== کار ویکی پدیا چیست ==


:I think it is best to simply review both yours as well as prior RMs for those articles, as there were a lot of good points and references to policies and precedents mentioned. [[User:Tiggerjay|<span style='color:DarkOrange'>'''Tigger'''</span>'''Jay''']]&thinsp;[[User talk:Tiggerjay|<span style="font-size:85%;color:Purple">(talk)</span>]] 00:11, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
[[Special:Contributions/5.117.82.13|5.117.82.13]] ([[User talk:5.117.82.13|talk]]) 21:35, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
: If you are trying to ask about the English Wikipedia, please post in English. If this is about a different Wikipedia, you need to ask there, since each Wikipedia is a separate project. [[User:RudolfRed|RudolfRed]] ([[User talk:RudolfRed|talk]]) 22:57, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
:I don't see how [[WP:ONEOTHER]] applies{{snd}}[[Dime]] and [[English]] each have several entries, not just two. [[User:Jlwoodwa|jlwoodwa]] ([[User talk:Jlwoodwa|talk]]) 07:17, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:هدف ویکی پدیا ارائه دانشنامه ای رایگان و بی طرفانه به جهان است. توسط داوطلبانی که مقالات را ویرایش و ایجاد می کنند اداره می شود. اگر برای شما جالب باشد، ویکی پدیای فارسی زبان داریم.https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%B5%D9%81%D8%AD%D9%87%D9%94_%D8%A7%D8%B5%D9%84%DB%8C [[User:Blitzfan51|<span style="color:grey">Blitzfan51</span>]] [[User talk:Blitzfan51|<span style="color:blue">speak to the manager</span>]] 23:16, 2 October 2024 (UTC)


== How to add copyright information to an image? ==
== Page Deleted ==
I recently uploaded a file to Wikipedia and I got a notification saying that the image had no copyright information and I needed to add it, but I can't find how to add the copyright information.


I know the copyright license and it is considered free to use.
Hi, we had a page deleted but we want to see if it can be reinstated [[User:HSELLC|HSELLC]] ([[User talk:HSELLC|talk]]) 21:59, 2 October 2024 (UTC)


:Who is "we", and what article are you referring to? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 22:01, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
Thank you! [[User:ミラへぜ|ミラへぜ]] ([[User talk:ミラへぜ|talk]]) 21:28, 11 December 2024 (UTC)


:I will note that images are not relevant to the draft process, which only considers the text and sources. I would just remove the image for now until you are able to update the copyright information later. [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 21:33, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
== Configure User:MiszaBot to archive signpost ==
:The image seems to be a professionally taken image, how did you obtain it? [[User:331dot|331dot]] ([[User talk:331dot|talk]]) 21:34, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
::I am not a photographer of any kind, this image was taken from a professional site that uses a public domain license for all of its images. [[User:ミラへぜ|ミラへぜ]] ([[User talk:ミラへぜ|talk]]) (ping me!) 23:21, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Where did you get it, please? Be specific. [[User:DragonflySixtyseven|DS]] ([[User talk:DragonflySixtyseven|talk]]) 01:21, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
::::For example, [https://www.instagram.com/_vaishalithaniga/p/CzOQ9x3Scmx/?img_index=1] has no indication this pic is free to use. [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 06:49, 12 December 2024 (UTC)


= December 12 =
I currently have User:MiszaBot to archive my talk page at 90d intervals. I would like to archive Signposts every week. Is there a way to configure it, or another bot , to archive signpost on a weekly interval?


== Have I successfully removed the promotional content from this article? ==
=== Expected Outcome ===
Only the latest signpost is shown on my talk page. all earlier signpost entries are archived. [[User:Tonymetz|<small style="border:2px solid;border-radius:4px;padding:0 4px">Tonymetz</small>]] [[User talk:Tonymetz|💬]] 23:31, 2 October 2024 (UTC)


The owner of [[emailSanta.com]] made [[WP:COI]] and [[WP:YESPROMO]] edits at his own article yesterday. I tried to remove the "fluff" and restore the [[WP:NPOV]]. Has the [[WP:NPOV]] been restored, or is it still too promotional? [[User:Félix An|Félix An]] ([[User talk:Félix An|talk]]) 01:39, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
= October 3 =


:You did a good job removing a lot of the fluff, although the article does need a lot of work to improve it overall, but definitely it has been improved. I did warn the other editor of [[WP:OWN]], however I would also encourage you to take some of these items to the article talk page and/or the user page and form a discussion instead of simply placing warnings over your concerns. [[User:Tiggerjay|<span style='color:DarkOrange'>'''Tigger'''</span>'''Jay''']]&thinsp;[[User talk:Tiggerjay|<span style="font-size:85%;color:Purple">(talk)</span>]] 02:15, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
== tax receipt ==
::I have indefinitely pageblocked Kringle Claus from [[EmailSanta.com]]. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 06:47, 12 December 2024 (UTC)


== Doctor article ==
hello! my dad gave a donation (Canada) and it's been 3 days and hasn't received a tax receipt. [[Special:Contributions/64.228.211.197|64.228.211.197]] ([[User talk:64.228.211.197|talk]]) 00:38, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
How to post an article on a Doctor ? It is not allowing to post on wilepedia [[User:Shashankrao28|Shashankrao28]] ([[User talk:Shashankrao28|talk]]) 07:20, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:<small>Moved from talk. <span style="white-space:nowrap"><span style="font-family:monospace">'''<nowiki>'''[[</nowiki>[[User:CanonNi]]<nowiki>]]'''</nowiki>'''</span> ([[User talk:CanonNi|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/CanonNi|contribs]])</span> 07:22, 12 December 2024 (UTC)</small>
::{{u|Shashankrao28}}, I assume that you mean Wikipedia. Please read [[WP:NPERSON]] and [[WP:YFA|Your first article]]. Doctors are not treated any differently than people of any other profession. [[User:Cullen328|Cullen328]] ([[User talk:Cullen328|talk]]) 07:29, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

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    December 9

    Comment from Shayvidas

    Hi,

    I recently created a draft titled "Draft:Shay Albert Vidas," but it was deleted under G11 for being promotional. I understand the concerns and would like to request that the draft be restored to my user page so I can revise it further.

    I plan to rewrite the content to meet Wikipedia’s neutrality and notability standards. Unfortunately, I cannot contact the deleting administrator, Bbb23, directly as their talk page is restricted, and I’m unable to post in the Administrators’ Noticeboard because it is semi-protected.

    I would greatly appreciate it if someone could assist me in restoring the draft to my user page or guide me on how to proceed.

    Thank you for your time and help!

    Best regards, Shayvidas Shayvidas (talk) 00:02, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Moved comment from talk page here. Myrealnamm (💬Let's talk · 📜My work) 00:50, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    In your second and so far final edit to this, Shayvidas, an edit you described as "less promotional", you added:
    Shay also manages a Facebook group with over 15,000 members, which has become a vibrant community for watch enthusiasts. Members actively discuss their shared passion for horology, share updates about the brand, and connect with others who appreciate handmade, unique designs. This platform has been instrumental in growing the VIDAS brand and fostering strong connections with collectors worldwide.
    And there still were no references. So I have no reason to think that the draft, were it resuscitated, would lead to an article. -- Hoary (talk) 03:04, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Shayvidas: I should also add that writing about yourself, if you are indeed the subject, is strongly discouraged as it is virtually impossible to write neutrally about oneself. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:29, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I would also suggest you take a moment to read the essay WP:PROUD, as you might not really want an article about yourself, as much as it might sound like a good idea right now. TiggerJay(talk) 05:02, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    How to post on an article's Talk page that you have COI

    I need to post on an article's Talk page that I have COI with the subject. Could you give me an idea of what to write, maybe a sort of template to use, as I've never done this before. Augnablik (talk) 03:55, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Perhaps == Conflict of interest == [line break] I have a conflict of interest with [what it is that you have a COI with]. ~~~~ -- Hoary (talk) 05:23, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    We don’t need to explain what the COI is, or anything further? Somehow I was thinking that would be important, not just a brief admission of COI. Augnablik (talk) 06:02, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Please see WP:COI. -- Hoary (talk) 06:38, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Mmm, yes ... thank you, @Hoary, I'd read the COI information some time ago but forgotten there was something about how we could declare it with a particular article. I'm thinking carefully which of the three options I'd like to use when I start in on that article.
    It seems to me that the option letting me put a COI userbox about this article on my User page sort of hides my COI from view, and wouldn't be as transparent as the other two options. I'm sort of surprised we can do this, as also that we apparently needn't elaborate on the connection we have with the subject of the article. Augnablik (talk) 09:12, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Augnablik You could use the template at Talk:Elayne Harrington, Template:Connected contributor. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:45, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Which is one of the three options mentioned at the COI guidance page. You certainly found an interesting example, that folk singer herself being a Wiki editor! Augnablik (talk) 09:14, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, per definition, to "template" someone like this, they kinda have to be a WP-editor. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:17, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    But not necessarily a celebrity who’s the subject of a Wiki article. 🙂 Augnablik (talk) 10:30, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As far as I'm concerned as the OP (proudly trying out a new acronym I've just learned) of this topic and thread, I think we can let it go on to the archives. First, though, I wanted to share which way I've chosen from the trayful of options all of you offered toward my decision-making. I was just uncomfortable with the idea of slapping one of those impersonal COI templates onto the article's Talk page without at least a little explanation of why I have COI. Yet picking up on Hoary's suggestion of adding a section to the Talk page that merely declared I had COI, not adding any explanation of why, didn't feel quite like "me" either.
    When I discussed this further with my mentor, he opened the door to my solution: that I could indeed give an explanation of my COI if I wanted to add it to a section at the article's Talk page. He just voiced caution to follow the K.I.S.S. principle.
    Now I feel ready to take on COI-dom as it comes. 🍧 Thank you, contributors to this thread and my decision. Augnablik (talk) 07:11, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Augnablik, I believe that Template:Connected contributor, mentioned above, is the best method. I always thought it was poorly named, and thus very hard to find. If you can tell me some of the searches you performed, maybe we can add some redirects to get people to the right place faster. Mathglot (talk) 02:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Mathglot, honestly I doubt that you'd find anything of much value in hearing about my searching to find out about COI. The only thing perhaps a little unusual about my interest in COI would be that in addition to reading the COI policy, which I hadn't read for awhile when I asked the question that started this discussion, I've also been followig a large amount of discussions in the Teahouse and at the Help Desk and Village Pump about this topic, because the topic has been one of great interest and concern to me. And I did ask my mentor a few things about the topic as well. But I must say, there seems to be quite a bit of conflicting advice about whether or not editors should be editing articles if they have COI — even in the COI policy itself. Topic for another discussion, probably... Are you by any chance on a Wiki project to help improve user learning materials? Augnablik (talk) 06:55, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Augnablik, not formally, but I do work a fair bit in that area as the occasion arises. You might be interested to hear about the Wikipedia Education program; they act as a liaison between Wikipedia and formal classes in U.S. & Canadian universities whose students edit Wikipedia as part of their coursework. Wiki Ed has developed student training materials for students in these classes, administrates the program, and deals with student questions. If you want to find out more about their training materials, a good place to start would be at the Wikipedia:Education noticeboard. Mathglot (talk) 08:43, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, I heard of that. And as an instructional designer, trainer, and teacher I’ve been thinking about following up on it … after dealing with my COI issues and related editing. Augnablik (talk) 08:56, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm sure there's an easy remedy, but I'm lost at the moment. The dimension in the infobox are wrong. The statue is 6-feet (1.8 m) tall and 2.5-feet (0.8 m) wide. The infobox says 6 cm × 2.5 cm (1.8 in × 0.8 in). I tried switching the parameters from Template:Infobox artwork but it's still showing up in cm. APK hi :-) (talk) 04:47, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Fixed... What you were missing was metric_unit and imperial_unit, by default it uses cm and inches respectively. Simply setting those to meters and feet resolved the problem. TiggerJay(talk) 04:59, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Awesome, thank you. APK hi :-) (talk) 05:05, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    How to make this link?

    On this page Norway women's national handball team in the info box on the right side, under Results, then under World Championship in the Appearances section it says '22 (First in 1971)'. Once you click on 1971, the link correctly takes you to the Women's World Cup that year.

    However, on this page Slovenia women's national handball team in the same section where it says '8 (First in 1997)' if you click on 1997, the link incorrectly takes you to the Men's World Cup that year.

    If you go to 'edit source', you will see that details are not provided there, it just says 1971 in the first instance and 1997 in the second, without any links. How can the problem on the second page be solved, so that the link is for the Women's World Cup in 1997?

    Thanks. NoWikiNoLife (talk) 12:58, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, @NoWikiNoLife. The difference is that in the Slovenia article the parameter is Type with a capital T, while in the Norway case it is type with a small one.
    If you look at Template:Infobox national netball team, most of the parameters start with a capital letter, except name, type, update, and the parameters relating to kit. Also, this is wrong in the "Usage" section of the template doc.
    I've corrected this in the article, but the template documentation needs correcting. I suggest posting on the Template talk page. ColinFine (talk) 13:55, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Awesome work and a very quick response. Much appreciated! NoWikiNoLife (talk) 14:50, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    this link:

    List of New Jersey music venues by capacity (1,000 attendees or greater)


    ....

    is there a way to make it point directly to nj? Bhdshoes2 (talk) 15:22, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Bhdshoes2 It looks as though the target page will need an anchor, which it may once have had that was deleted. That list is so long and complicated with all its tables, I'm not going to try to fix it but you might like to try! Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:33, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Not currently with how the page is currently formatted, there was a proposal a few years ago to split out the United States venues into their own page - see Talk:List of music venues § United States -- if that was accomplished (which is probably a good idea) it would be trivial to make that link work. TiggerJay(talk) 15:36, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    (ec) An anchor should fix this... but it also looks like Mike is working on this for you. Although I would still think it might not be a bad idea to break out the US venues into their own list. TiggerJay(talk) 15:41, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Not me but maybe someone else is looking at it. Mike Turnbull (talk) 16:07, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah, misread your comment. I'll try to fix it. TiggerJay(talk) 16:46, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Bhdshoes2 --- fixed, give it a try. TiggerJay(talk) 16:57, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Paragraph break problem at Gabe Newell

    I'm trying to add a paragraph break after the following sentece: Newell opted to found Valve instead of retiring as he felt working with "other really smart, motivated, socially-orientated people to create product that would affect millions of other people" was "the most fun I could have". For some reason, it won't appear. What am I doing wrong? Popcornfud (talk) 15:32, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Popcornfud I fixed it by placing a linebreak after the "Main" template. Don't ask me why that works! Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:38, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks! It looks like having the Main template as part of the paragraph was causing the problem, for whatever reason. Popcornfud (talk) 16:13, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Draft Declined

    Please help me! My draft which i prepared about a famous social media influencer has been declined by wikipedia for submission.i have correctly cited and did not do any copy paste. Please do the needful.

    DRAFT: Nischay Malhan. Ragards Surfmaster... Surfmaster23 (talk) 17:23, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Please see the comment left on the draft Draft:Nischay Malhan, which says that the cited sources do not contain significant coverage of Malhan. Without several sources that meet all three of the criteria in WP:42, you cannot establish that the subject meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability. ColinFine (talk) 17:48, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    December 10

    Guidance on main article-"subarticle" relations

    Hello,

    Can someone point me towards guidance on how best to summarize content on main pages that is expanded on in other pages, and how to link between the two, etc.? I checked through the guidelines navbox but nothing jumped out at me. For context, I am trying to coordinate Greater Richmond Region and its constituent localities, especially Richmond, Virginia. However, I don't want to put the information solely in the "correct location" at the expense of our readers.

    JuxtaposedJacob (talk) | :) | he/him | 02:01, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, @JuxtaposedJacob. Does WP:SUMMARYHATNOTE answer your question? ColinFine (talk) 11:07, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you, my beautiful friend; I am thankful for you.
    Yes, that resource does help, along with the benefits provided by a short wikibreak.
    Good morning!
    JuxtaposedJacob (talk) | :) | he/him | 13:03, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    How do I fixed a usurped official website URL being picked up from Wikidata?

    Gday fellow pedians!

    I noticed the official website URL at the end of the article It (2017 film), listed in the external links with "official website" tagging, has been usurped by some commercial store. It's being picked up from wikidataitem d:Q25136484. I've changed the official website status there to usurped and put an end date against the statement, also added an archive URL from Wayback. However, Wikipedia still picks up and shows the usurped URL from the official website statement. Is there a way to fix this? What am I doing wrong? Thank you! 45154james (talk) 08:43, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Not sure how the Wikidata interaction works, but I've removed the link from the external link section. The documentation at Template:Official website states that a dead link has to be handled through Template:Webarchive. CMD (talk) 09:01, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That's great thanks so much. I've now restored it with the Template:Webarchive, which I didn't know about. 45154james (talk) 09:27, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @45154james: On Wikidata, give the statement an end date (if known) and/ or mark it as deprecated, and give the reason for deprecation as "usurped" or "link rot". Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:42, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks very much @Pigsonthewing - and for sorting out wikidata. Always good to learn something new! 45154james (talk) 21:57, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Uploading picture

    Hello,

    I would like to ask a question about uploading a picture. Few days ago, one of my pictures I uploaded was deleted from Wikipedia. It was said, due to copyright issues. So I asked the original owner of the pictures, and he granted me permission to use it. How can I reupload a picture without they remove it again? Kgbalint (talk) 09:54, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Kgbalint: You cannot upload it at all, unless the copyright owner licenses it under a CC-BY-SA license that allows anyone uses it for any purpose. The copyright owner is generally the original photographer. The simplest way to do that is for the owner to put that license on the picture on some web site under the owner's control. Another method is for the owner (not you) to upload the picture to Wikipedia Commons and license it there. -Arch dude (talk) 11:11, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Various other open licences are also acceptable; CC-BY-SA is acceptable but not required. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:38, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If this was about a logo for an article in mainspace, we could do non-free, but that doesn't seem to be the case atm. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:01, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, @Kgbalint. Wikipedia (and other Wikimedia sites, such as Commons) are much more careful about copyright than many sites on the internet. Also, part of the purpose of Wikipedia and other Wikimedia sites is to provide a stock of freely-reusable information.
    This means that it is not enough for the copyright holder to "grant permission" for their pictures to be used in Wikipedia: the copyright owner must explicitly release the images in a way that anybody may reuse or alter them for any purpose. The usual way to do this is to release the images under a permissive licence such as WP:CC-BY-SA. Only the copyright owner has the legal power to do this - not the subject of the picture (unless they are also the copyright owner), nor anybody else. donating copyright materials tells them what they need to do.
    See image use policy for more information. ColinFine (talk) 11:12, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Kgbalint Is this about the logo for Draft:AEON GODS or something else? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:18, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, for this File:AEON-GODS-King-of-Gods-Cover.webp to remain on Commons, you should direct the copyright holder (I'm guessing the artist, but I don't know that) to COM:VRT/CONSENT. You have marked it as "This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 International license.", but there is no indication of that at the source-website. I'm actually doubtful the copyright holder would be ok with that, but it's possible. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:30, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Kgbalint you appear to have again uploaded an album cover which does not have an explicit PD or CC BY-SA 4.0 Licence. To be able to use the album cover at all, you will need Fair Use, see File:Dark Side of the Moon.png Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:15, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I want to delete a template

    My template of Template:The Computer Barnstar is not needed. I want to delete it, but I'm not an admin. Is there anyone out there to help? Gnu779 (talk) 13:42, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Nominate it for WP:TFD. As it's now in main space, the CSD categories for author deletion no longer apply. Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 14:06, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Lee Vilenski am I missing something, criterion WP:G7 (author requests deletion) doesn't say that it excludes pages in main space. TSventon (talk) 14:17, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Your right. I have no idea why I said that - clearly I wasn't thinking. G7 is indeed the way forward. Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 18:04, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, I read the article Yugoslav submarine Mališan and noticed reference #12 (Freivogel, Zvonimir (2021). Warships of the Yugoslav Navy: Yugoslav Warships and their Fates 1945–1991. Zagreb, Croatia: Despot Infinitus. ISBN 978-953-366-006-6). However, I am unsure how to access this book online to verify the information. I hope you can assist me. Thank you, and have a nice day! P. ĐĂNG (talk) 14:47, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I think you should direct this to the relevant reference desk. 2601AC47 (talk·contribs·my rights) Isn't a IP anon 15:07, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    WP:V does not require that the source be available on line. You could ask at WP:RD/H as suggested. TSventon (talk) 15:14, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @P. ĐĂNG: WP:RX would be a better venue than those suggested above; or you could try your local library. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:34, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    P. ĐĂNG, assuming that this WorldCat link is the book you are looking for, according to WorldCat, there is only one library in the world that has a copy of it: the British Library, St. Pancras, London. Their website is currently down or limited due to a cyberattack (Contact page), but you could try calling or emailing them at customer@bl.uk and if you are lucky, they will pull the book for you and look up the information and get back to you, if it is just a matter of verifying an assertion in the article. Alternatively, you could ask the editor who added the citation if they have a copy of it. As there are multiple citations to Freivogel in the article but no #12 that does, I can't determine which part of the article text you are referring to; however, one editor who cited the Freivogel article was Peacemaker67 on October 2, 2023 (here); he also added the citation to the Bibliography a few days earlier. You could ask him if he has a copy of the book, or can get one.
    P.S. come to think of it, the cyberattack is probably limiting their library list function, so maybe lots of other libraries have it, too, and their website will show you the library closest to you that has it when the website is fully functional; maybe try again in a day or two. Mathglot (talk) 00:22, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, I have a copy of the book. Email me and I'll send you the relevant pages. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:24, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have emailed Peacemaker67 to request access to a copy of the book as he suggested. Thank you all for your enthusiastic assistance. Wishing you and your family a wonderful day. P. ĐĂNG (talk) 04:22, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Done. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 06:44, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Some Wikipedia pages are not indexed by search engines

    Hello!

    I noticed that some Wikipedia pages are not indexed by search engines. For example Nova TV (Ireland) and List of NCAA Division I women's soccer season goals leaders

    How can this be fixed? Sanidelle (talk) 15:43, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    You don't need the whole url when linking. These articles may need to be reviewed by a New Pages Patroller. 331dot (talk) 15:47, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sanidelle Nova TV has a meta "noindex,nofollow" instruction to search engines (Html line 29) because it hasn't been patrolled; the women's soccer article does not have this, and is already indexed and findable on Google search, as expected. Mathglot (talk) 23:31, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There is nothing that needs to be fixed -- they first have to be patrolled and then indexed by Google, they both take time, but nothing overtly looks like it needs correcting. TiggerJay(talk) 03:51, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Parliamentary Seat Distribution Chart

    Good day,

    I am an editor, and would like to ask what application (website) most editors use to create the parliamentary seat charts on most articles? (Ref: List of members of the 6th National Assembly of Namibia).

    Regards GMilø19 (talk) 17:45, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    The upload comment for that image says "Direct upload from the ParliamentDiagram tool". As far as I can tell, that is at https://parliamentdiagram.toolforge.org/archinputform ColinFine (talk) 19:08, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    What does the "Ask your mentor a question" button look like (in desktop vs mobile web vs app)

    Multiple times, I've had mentees ask me duplicates of the same question, or their actual question followed by another "question" that is a comment they meant to append to the first one. I suspect the form they use to ask questions is misleading/does not properly inform them, leading to these mistakes. Anyone have a screenshot? Mach61 18:08, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Mach61, I'm not good at screenshots. The button is on a user's "Homepage" tab in a box partway down on the right that introduced the mentor. It is a rectangle that says "Ask your mentor a question about editing". In the mobile view only part of the mentor section is available but there is a "?" on the mentor icon. Clicking that brings up the rectangle that serves as the button. You can enable your own newcomer Homepage and see what newcomers see by going to the very bottom of the "User Profile" tab in "Preferences". Hope this helps. StarryGrandma (talk) 19:05, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Screenshot:
    Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:26, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Gråbergs Gråa Sång @StarryGrandma Thanks! Mach61 19:34, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    December 11

    How can school records be saved

    Re: Paul Martin (illustrator). He attended an art school in the early 1900s. It's stated in the article and backed up with a reference from the New York Times. But the article also states the years he attended and his instructors. That can only be backed up with the old record cards (similar to 3x5 cards) on file. I received a scan of them, but I don't think the picture can be downloaded to Commons due to copyright issues. Do they still apply to something dated to 1906? That date is on the card. Can the picture be downloaded to Wayback instead and reachable via a reference in the WP article? Can the picture just be downsized? Thanks. JimPercy (talk) 11:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    The article Paul Martin (illustrator) already goes into mind-boggling detail and digressions: see note "n" in particular. Is it perhaps time to do some pruning of the article's content? -- Hoary (talk) 12:17, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Half of article's bytes are in references and hiddens and necessary to back up content. Note "n" is about a model twice pictured in the article (Foreign service cover, H-O poster). So you think that should be scaled back or mostly eliminated or hidden. JimPercy (talk) 14:07, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    JimPercy, whence did you receive the scan? Offline materials that can be accessed at or requested from institutional archives can still be cited with {{cite archive}}. If received from someone's personal collection, the information cannot be cited at all, even if you upload it somewhere, due to the unverifiable paper trail. Folly Mox (talk) 13:50, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Scan received from Archives of American Art, Smithsonian Institution. His school is also mentioned in the Infobox. JimPercy (talk) 14:10, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sounds like the material you received can be cited without any image upload necessary. I don't understand c:Help:Public domain well enough to determine if your scan can be uploaded: there are some categories of 1906 U.S. media whose copyrights don't expire till 2026. Folly Mox (talk) 18:58, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    But an image offers more proof. There is already a citation in place. Maybe I can just upload to Wayback two of the three "record cards." (I would just have to crop out the third card from the image.) They date to 1902 and 1903. Out of copyright? The most important detail is on those two cards, anyway. They both list the artist's name, address, birthdate, date of admission, and enrolled classes. JimPercy (talk) 19:40, 11 December 2024 (UTC) Update. It seems that template at Commons would work. The second card is dated Oct. 1903 (for school year '03-'04), so that predates 1904. JimPercy (talk) 20:44, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I guess I'm not understanding why you feel the need to upload the file? As Folly stated, you can simply cite it -- unless someone is contesting this? I didn't see any mention or reverts on the article page itself. TiggerJay(talk) 03:49, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    How to nominate a website for blacklisting

    Over the years, several IP editors have attempted to insert links to a certain commercial website. I think it is time to blacklist that website. Constant314 (talk) 13:36, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Constant314, see MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist § Proposed additions. Folly Mox (talk) 13:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you. Constant314 (talk) 13:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Another question

    What does it mean if a language has a star icon next to it? User332224 (talk) 15:51, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @User332224: Assuming you're referring to in the list of languages on an article sidebar, the stars indicate that the article's equivalent on that language's Wikipedia is considered a featured article (if the star is gold) or good article (if silver) by that project. ModernDayTrilobite (talkcontribs) 16:40, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    WP:CALC on a simple claim

    Is it acceptable to state that the Little Rock tornado was the first to touch down in the March 31 tornado outbreak? This can be verified here on the storm events database, typically considered reliable, where it is the first entry chronologically (titled MARTINDALE, but entails Little Rock). Departure– (talk) 16:49, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Generally speaking, I would say that if something was chronologically first, then that would be okay. At worst I would boldly add it to the article. But if it reverted or contested, take it to the talk page, as there might be other reasons beyond simple CALC that is involved. TiggerJay(talk) 00:13, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Disambiguating pages where visitors overwhelmingly go to a particular topic

    Some time ago, I opened a RM to move Android to Android (disambiguation) and retarget to the operating system. There was a unanimous consensus against that. What I'm wondering about is where the line of when to disambiguate versus redirect lies. Visitors to Dime and English overwhelmingly go to the American coin and the language, respectively, but would I be correct in my reading of WP:1OTHER PRIMARY that a redirect would be justified in these cases?


    https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&title=English

    https://wikinav.toolforge.org/?language=en&title=Dime


    Thanks


    JayCubby 20:09, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I think it is best to simply review both yours as well as prior RMs for those articles, as there were a lot of good points and references to policies and precedents mentioned. TiggerJay(talk) 00:11, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't see how WP:ONEOTHER applies – Dime and English each have several entries, not just two. jlwoodwa (talk) 07:17, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I recently uploaded a file to Wikipedia and I got a notification saying that the image had no copyright information and I needed to add it, but I can't find how to add the copyright information.

    I know the copyright license and it is considered free to use.

    Thank you! ミラへぜ (talk) 21:28, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I will note that images are not relevant to the draft process, which only considers the text and sources. I would just remove the image for now until you are able to update the copyright information later. 331dot (talk) 21:33, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The image seems to be a professionally taken image, how did you obtain it? 331dot (talk) 21:34, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I am not a photographer of any kind, this image was taken from a professional site that uses a public domain license for all of its images. ミラへぜ (talk) (ping me!) 23:21, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Where did you get it, please? Be specific. DS (talk) 01:21, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    For example, [1] has no indication this pic is free to use. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:49, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    December 12

    Have I successfully removed the promotional content from this article?

    The owner of emailSanta.com made WP:COI and WP:YESPROMO edits at his own article yesterday. I tried to remove the "fluff" and restore the WP:NPOV. Has the WP:NPOV been restored, or is it still too promotional? Félix An (talk) 01:39, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    You did a good job removing a lot of the fluff, although the article does need a lot of work to improve it overall, but definitely it has been improved. I did warn the other editor of WP:OWN, however I would also encourage you to take some of these items to the article talk page and/or the user page and form a discussion instead of simply placing warnings over your concerns. TiggerJay(talk) 02:15, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have indefinitely pageblocked Kringle Claus from EmailSanta.com. Cullen328 (talk) 06:47, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Doctor article

    How to post an article on a Doctor ? It is not allowing to post on wilepedia Shashankrao28 (talk) 07:20, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Moved from talk. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talkcontribs) 07:22, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Shashankrao28, I assume that you mean Wikipedia. Please read WP:NPERSON and Your first article. Doctors are not treated any differently than people of any other profession. Cullen328 (talk) 07:29, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]