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Croatian settlement articles mass creation II

Previously: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Croatia/Archive 5#Croatian settlement articles mass creation

While @Joy and I are preparing for a wider discussion on the creation of the remaining 3200 Croatian settlement stubs, it'd be good to gather some sources to "illustrate the body of scholarly and other work out there on the topic of these settlements". Feel free to join!

Naselje
Croatian law with tables of municipalities and settlements
Register of spatial units of the State Geodetic Administration of the Republic of Croatia, Wikidata Q119585703 whose data is used by the Croatian Bureau of Statistics in 2021 Croatian census: population data by age, sex, settlement (in Croatian and English), Croatian Bureau of Statistics, 22 September 2022, Wikidata Q118496886
All those settlements are on the List of Croatian settlements and delivery post offices, Wikidata Q125763583 (follow the Qid for their search engine link)
Many will have a school (usually as "područna škola")
While all municipalities list their settlements on their websites, some are more verbose: vrlika.hr or vratisinec.hr or lovinac.hr is my quick random choice. Some histories go back many centuries ago.
When it comes to scholarly work, one can find 700 pp books like Narodna umjetnost: Studije i građa u Sinjskoj krajini covering history and ethnography of a region, old settlements included. IMO, lack of sources is not a problem, it's the lack of people who'd write articles. Creating articles from scratch is a tedious process (waste of time for humans for sure), having something like Dubrava, Split-Dalmatia County should be a good start.

Ponor (talk) 17:04, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Adresar JLP(R)S here contains links to municipal/city websites and names of mayors etc. --Tomobe03 (talk) 20:07, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I also wanted to mention that the topic of naselja is currently described mostly with these clerical or primary sources, but there's also coverage of the concept in scholarly sources, such as searching Hrčak for e.g. 'naselja Hrvatske' with Google or with their search. Because the earlier concerns about settlements were that they were often census-invented, we should make sure to explain how this census data is describing practical reality of human settlement (as opposed to shoehorning population data into geolocations artificially). --Joy (talk) 10:52, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

True. The minimum of information may be sourced to the online edition of the Croatian Encyclopedia here for some of them and Istrapedija here (Istria County and LZMK joint project). Hrčak is a very good resource.--Tomobe03 (talk) 15:16, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It would be interesting to see what this 12-volume Homeland encyclopedia really is. The editors claim 2500 people collected data and stories on 6500+ Croatian settlements. @Joy @Tomobe03 Ponor (talk) 01:28, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have not had a chance to have a look at it yet. Judging only from the publisher being an enterprise not normally publishing scientific literature, I'd be cautious about anything published there and probably would not include anything not corroborated by another RS. In the worst case scenario, it could be a good pointer for research.--Tomobe03 (talk) 08:46, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good article reassessment for Adriatic Sea

Adriatic Sea has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 22:13, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1970s in Croatian television

I don't know much about Croatia or television, but I found a lot of nearly-empty stubs for years in 1970s Croatian television, and it looks like nobody has worked on most of them for a few years, so I am currently merging them into one page for the decade (Draft: 1970s in Croatian television). I'll move it to 1970s in Croatian television when I've added the content from all of the year stubs. I have moved all of the individual stubs to draft space. Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 02:12, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'll do the 1960s next if I get time ant nobody objects? Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 02:14, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1100th anniversary of the Croatian Kingdom

On the initiative of the Matica hrvatska and Brethren of the Croatian Dragon Sabor proclaimed 2025 as "The year of the 1100th anniversary of the Croatian Kingdom" (Godina obilježavanja 1100. obljetnice Hrvatskoga Kraljevstva). (source)

There will be many events and commemorations considering this anniversary in Croatian and abroad. (for. ex. [1])

Croatian-edition of the project started special task force considering this jubilee. (article list)

I would like to encourage all participants to write and expand on existing related articles. Mudroslov (talk) 20:00, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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+== Croatian settlement articles mass creation II ==
-== Josip Belusic picture ==
+Previously: [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Croatia/Archive 5#Croatian settlement articles mass creation]]
-@[[User:Joy|Joy]], @[[User:Ponor|Ponor]], @[[User:ArianJD|ArianJD]], @[[User:AustroHungarian1867|AustroHungarian1867]], @[[User:Bronx Langford|Bronx Langford]], @[[User:Dalibor1975|Dalibor1975]], @[[User:Dape13|Dape13]], @[[User:Franjo Tahy|Franjo Tahy]], @[[User:ImChessFan21|ImChessFan21]], @[[User:Jalapeño|Jalapeño]], @[[User:Maestro Ivanković|Maestro Ivanković]], @[[User:Mychele Trempetich|Mychele Trempetich]], @[[User:Nirmaz|Nirmaz]], @[[User:Zmaj~enwiki|Zmaj~enwiki]], @[[User:Mihitza78/rightpanel|Mihitza78/rightpanel]] and all other Croatian editors: could you provide a picture of the statue of [[Josip Belusic]], so we can substitute the poor-quality picture currently used in his article's infobox? It was unveiled over a year ago in [[Zagreb]] as part of the "Sit & Meet" trail [https://www.jutarnji.hr/domidizajn/inspiracije/jedinstvene-skulpture-najvecih-imena-hrvatske-povijesti-osvojile-zagrebacke-trgove-15237678], [[User:Tommy Lee J.|Tommy Lee J.]] ([[User talk:Tommy Lee J.|talk]]) 00:16, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
+While @[[User:Joy|Joy]] and I are preparing for a wider discussion on the creation of the remaining 3200 Croatian settlement stubs, it'd be good to gather some sources to [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/PonoRoboT_2#c-Joy-20240721190500-Joy-20240721185700 "illustrate the body of scholarly and other work out there on the topic of these settlements"]. '''Feel free to join!'''
-:Address should be: Jupi bar, Ul. Ivana Tkalčića 18, Zagreb [https://guide.sitandmeet.hr/map.aspx] [[User:Tommy Lee J.|Tommy Lee J.]] ([[User talk:Tommy Lee J.|talk]]) 00:21, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
+* [[Naselje]]
+* [https://narodne-novine.nn.hr/clanci/sluzbeni/2006_07_86_2045.html Croatian law with tables of municipalities and settlements]
+* {{CiteQ|Q119585703}} whose data is used by the [[Croatian Bureau of Statistics]] in {{CiteQ|Q118496886}}
+* All those settlements are on the {{CiteQ|Q125763583}} (follow the Qid for their search engine link)
+* [https://www.skole.hr/adresar/popis-skola/?slovo=B Many will have a school] (usually as "područna škola")
+* While all municipalities list their settlements on their websites, some are more verbose: {{url|vrlika.hr/o-vrlici|vrlika.hr}} or {{url|www.vratisinec.hr/defaultcont.asp?id{{=}}3&n{{=}}2&g{{=}}1|vratisinec.hr}} or {{url|lovinac.hr/page/zupe|lovinac.hr}} is my quick random choice. Some histories go back many centuries ago.
+* When it comes to scholarly work, one can find 700 pp books like [https://hrcak.srce.hr/broj/3201 Narodna umjetnost: Studije i građa u Sinjskoj krajini] covering history and ethnography of a region, old settlements included. IMO, lack of sources is not a problem, it's the lack of people who'd write articles. Creating articles from scratch is a tedious process (waste of time for humans for sure), having something like [[Dubrava, Split-Dalmatia County]] should be a good start.
+[[User:Ponor|Ponor]] ([[User talk:Ponor|talk]]) 17:04, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
+:Adresar JLP(R)S [https://mpudt.gov.hr/o-ministarstvu/ustrojstvo/uprava-za-politicki-sustav-i-opcu-upravu/lokalna-i-podrucna-regionalna-samouprava/popis-zupanija-gradova-i-opcina/22319 here] contains links to municipal/city websites and names of mayors etc. --[[User:Tomobe03|Tomobe03]] ([[User talk:Tomobe03|talk]]) 20:07, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
-== FAR for Olm ==
+::I also wanted to mention that the topic of ''naselja'' is currently described mostly with these clerical or primary sources, but there's also coverage of the concept in scholarly sources, such as searching [[Hrčak]] for e.g. 'naselja Hrvatske' [https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=naselja+hrvatske+site%3Ahrcak.srce.hr with Google] or [https://hrcak.srce.hr/pretraga?q=naselja+hrvatske with their search]. Because the earlier concerns about settlements were that they were often census-invented, we should make sure to explain how this census data is describing practical reality of human settlement (as opposed to shoehorning population data into geolocations artificially). --[[User:Joy|Joy]] ([[User talk:Joy|talk]]) 10:52, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
+:::True. The minimum of information may be sourced to the online edition of the [[Croatian Encyclopedia]] [https://www.enciklopedija.hr/ here] for some of them and Istrapedija [https://www.istrapedia.hr/hr/ here] (Istria County and LZMK joint project). Hrčak is a very good resource.--[[User:Tomobe03|Tomobe03]] ([[User talk:Tomobe03|talk]]) 15:16, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
+::::It would be interesting to see what this [https://www.amazon.com/Domovinska-Enciklopedija-12-Zagrebacka-hrvatskih/dp/9538162005 12-volume Homeland encyclopedia] really is. The editors claim 2500 people collected data and stories on 6500+ Croatian settlements. @[[User:Joy|Joy]] @[[User:Tomobe03|Tomobe03]] [[User:Ponor|Ponor]] ([[User talk:Ponor|talk]]) 01:28, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
+:::::I have not had a chance to have a look at it yet. Judging only from the publisher being an enterprise not normally publishing scientific literature, I'd be cautious about anything published there and probably would not include anything not corroborated by another RS. In the worst case scenario, it could be a good pointer for research.--[[User:Tomobe03|Tomobe03]] ([[User talk:Tomobe03|talk]]) 08:46, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
+== Good article reassessment for [[Adriatic Sea]] ==
-I have nominated [[Olm]] for a [[Wikipedia:Featured article review/Olm/archive1|featured article review here]]. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the [[Wikipedia:What is a featured article?|featured article criteria]]. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are [[Wikipedia:Featured article review|here]].<!--Template:FARMessage--> [[User:Hog Farm|Hog Farm]] <sub> ''[[User talk:Hog Farm|Talk]]''</sub> 02:21, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
+[[Adriatic Sea]] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the [[Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Adriatic Sea/1|reassessment page]]. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. [[User:Z1720|Z1720]] ([[User talk:Z1720|talk]]) 22:13, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
+== [[1970s in Croatian television]] ==
-== Article: János Statileo aka Ivan Statilić ==
+{{see also
+ | Draft: 1970 in Croatian television
-I did a major upgrade to the bio of Ivan Statilić.
+ | Draft: 1971 in Croatian television
-Can you add this to the WikiProject Croatia?
+ | Draft: 1972 in Croatian television
-I am a noob here - and not good yet with Wiki Tech.
+ | Draft: 1973 in Croatian television
-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/János_Statileo [[User:ZidarZ|ZidarZ]] ([[User talk:ZidarZ|talk]]) 10:13, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
+ | Draft: 1974 in Croatian television
+ | Draft: 1975 in Croatian television
-== Attacks by user buidhe ==
+ | Draft: 1976 in Croatian television
+ | Draft: 1977 in Croatian television
-I made some small improvements on the "1918 protest in Zagreb" page.
+ | Draft: 1978 in Croatian television
-Quickly, a user "buidhe" undid my improvements with no legitimate justification.  We entered into a "debate" and I quickly became the victim of bullying.  At first "he" made personal attacks and then he insinuating threats.
+ | Draft: 1979 in Croatian television
+ | Draft: 1970s in Croatian television
-His last comment to me was " The purpose of wikipedia is not to promote Croatia and ''crusade against "anti-Croatian" ''narratives. We're only interested in covering what reliable sources have to say on a subject. If that is your attitude I don't think you are going to stick around very long. (t · c) buidhe 14:18, 3 September 2023.
+}}
-The comment "crusade against "anti-Croatian" narratives" is problematic.  Is it not right to fix incorrect information and anti-Croat bias?  He writes about "reliable sources" but the only reliable sources are ones that he personally thinks are "reliable" - this is rather subjective.
-Has anyone else had problems with this person that appears to possibly suffer from the disease of Croatomisia (hate of Croats)? [[User:ZidarZ|ZidarZ]] ([[User talk:ZidarZ|talk]]) 18:15, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
-:Let me add one more problematic detail. In a discussion about what books are "reliable" "'''buidhe'''"  said the following "...books with hyperbolic titles are less likely to be WP:RS and suitable to cite for wikipedia purposes.
-:hyperbole: extravagant exaggeration, exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally.
-:Who decides what a "hyperbolic title" is?
-:Are books from almost 100 years ago to be judged by today's standards?
-:We are told not to judge a book by its cover, what right should "'''buidhe'''" have in judging a book by its title, rather than by its content. [[User:ZidarZ|ZidarZ]] ([[User talk:ZidarZ|talk]]) 20:05, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
-::This is a content dispute. The place to discuss such a dispute is on the relevant article's talk page. If you are unable to reach consensus, then consider one of the available [[WP:DR|dispute resolution mechanisms]]. Please do not post like this on multiple pages, because it comes across as [[WP:CANVASS|canvassing]]. [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 20:15, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
-:::Thank you for the response.
-:::This is more than a "content dispute".
-:::The real issue whether this person has, to say politely, and "anti-Croat bias".  For that reason I asked:
-:::''"Has anyone else had problems with this person that appears to possibly suffer from the disease of Croatomisia (hate of Croats)?" ''
-:::If others have had negative interactions with "him", then we can determine from the pattern of activity whether the person is "problematic". [[User:ZidarZ|ZidarZ]] ([[User talk:ZidarZ|talk]]) 20:30, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
-::::Complaints about user conduct should be made at [[WP:AN/I]] (but beware [[WP:BOOMERANG]]). [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 20:38, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
-:::::Before I do that, I am asking if others have had negative experience with him.  As for "WP:BOOMERANG" - yes, I am well aware that the online world has many troll and Wikipedia is no different.  Please tell me that Wikipedia is not full of trolls protecting trolls and abusing people that complain about "people in power" ("editors"). [[User:ZidarZ|ZidarZ]] ([[User talk:ZidarZ|talk]]) 21:27, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
-::::::Judgments about cases brought to administrators' noticeboards are not made by trolls, no, even if there are trolls on Wikipedia (who usually get blocked pretty quickly). [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 21:31, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
-:::::::Is it possible that an "editor" is a "troll"? [[User:ZidarZ|ZidarZ]] ([[User talk:ZidarZ|talk]]) 22:29, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
-::::::::"Editor" is a label that is applied to everyone who creates an account and edits Wikipedia, so yes, some editors are trolls (but like I've said, they usually get blocked quickly). [[User:Cordless Larry|Cordless Larry]] ([[User talk:Cordless Larry|talk]]) 22:33, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
-:::::::::Then i should ask, "Is it possible that an admin is a troll?"
-:::::::::I know that in many forums, sometimes "moderators" with a bit of power are the worst trolls. [[User:ZidarZ|ZidarZ]] ([[User talk:ZidarZ|talk]]) 00:09, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
-== Siege of Valpovo ==
-I did a major update to the article of the Siege of Valpovo in 1543.
-[[Siege of Valpovo]] [[User:ZidarZ|ZidarZ]] ([[User talk:ZidarZ|talk]]) 12:35, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
-== Battle of Somlyo (1543) ==
-I created a new article about the Battle of Somlyo in 1543. Though the battle happened in Hungary, it was one of Nikola IV Zrinski's first battles as Ban of Croatia.  If you have any ideas for improvements, let me know.
-[[Draft:Battle of Somlyó (1543)]] [[User:ZidarZ|ZidarZ]] ([[User talk:ZidarZ|talk]]) 20:31, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
-==[[Miho]]==
-FYI {{la|Miho}} has been proposed to be split to [[Miho (Japanese name)]] and [[Miho (Croatian name)]]. For the discussion, see [[Talk:Miho]]
--- [[Special:Contributions/67.70.25.175|67.70.25.175]] ([[User talk:67.70.25.175|talk]]) 22:00, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
-{{discussion-moved|talk: Miho#Split (2023)}}
-== Battle of Konjščina ==
-I have written an article about the Battle of  Konjščina in 1544.
-Let me know what you think.  Feel free to improve.
-[[Draft:1544: Battle of Konjščina]] [[User:ZidarZ|ZidarZ]] ([[User talk:ZidarZ|talk]]) 01:54, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
-== Women in Green's 5th Edit-a-thon ==
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-Hello WikiProject Croatia:
-'''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Green|WikiProject Women in Green]]''' is holding a ''' month-long [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Green/Meetup/5|Good Article Edit-a-thon event in October 2023]]'''!<br /><br />
-Running from October 1 to 31, 2023, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) edit-a-thon event with the theme '''Around the World in 31 Days'''! All experience levels welcome. Never worked on a GA project before? We'll teach you how to get started. Or maybe you're an old hand at GAs – we'd love to have you involved! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to women and women's works (e.g., books, films) during the event period. We hope to collectively cover article subjects from at least '''31 countries''' (or broader international articles) by month's end. GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to earn a special WiG barnstar for their efforts.
-We hope to see you there!
-[[User:Grnrchst|Grnrchst]] ([[User talk:Grnrchst|talk]]) 12:54, 21 September 2023 (UTC)</div>
-== Assessing credibility of a book ==
-Ante Mrkonjic, a Croat in Australia, wrote these books on Croatian history:
-[https://www.amazon.com/dp/0646801848/ A History of the Early Croats]
+I don't know much about Croatia or television, but I found a lot of nearly-empty stubs for years in 1970s Croatian television, and it looks like nobody has worked on most of them for a few years, so I am currently merging them into one page for the decade ([[Draft: 1970s in Croatian television]]). I'll move it to [[1970s in Croatian television]] when I've added the content from all of the year stubs. I have moved all of the individual stubs to draft space. [[User:Industrial Metal Brain|Industrial Metal Brain]] ([[User talk:Industrial Metal Brain|talk]]) 02:12, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
-[https://www.amazon.com/dp/0646880519/ A History of The Croats - The Years 1102 to 1606]
+:I'll do the 1960s next if I get time ant nobody objects? [[User:Industrial Metal Brain|Industrial Metal Brain]] ([[User talk:Industrial Metal Brain|talk]]) 02:14, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
-He is not a professional historian, but a passionate amateur historian who wrote two books because the "historians" at the U of Zagreb have not done anything.  The books are self-published because the cost and loss of control (for years) is not worth it to small authors.
+== 1100th anniversary of the Croatian Kingdom ==
-I have used the books in my research and I can honestly say that these two books are the best Croatian history books - encyclopedic books - in the English language.  In total, the books are about 1,600 pages in total.
+On the initiative of the [[Matica hrvatska]] and [[Brethren of the Croatian Dragon]] [[Sabor]] proclaimed 2025 as "The year of the 1100th anniversary of the Croatian Kingdom" (''Godina obilježavanja 1100. obljetnice Hrvatskoga Kraljevstva''). ([https://www.matica.hr/novosti/na-inicijativu-matice-hrvatske-i-druzbe-braca-hrvatskoga-zmaja-hrvatski-sabor-proglasio-2025-godinom-obiljezavanja-1100-obljetnice-hrvatskoga-kraljevstva-368/ source])
-It would be great if someone could read the books and deem them to be credible sources.  They should be credible since they are a compilation of the works of Croatian historians and translation to English.  Trule a monumental work.
+There will be many events and commemorations considering this anniversary in Croatian and abroad. (for. ex. [https://odbor1100.wixsite.com/hrvatskokraljevstvo])
-Thank you [[User:ZidarZ|ZidarZ]] ([[User talk:ZidarZ|talk]]) 21:27, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
+Croatian-edition of the project started [[:hr:Wikipedija:Wikiprojekt Hrvatska/1100. obljetnica Hrvatskog Kraljevstva/Članci|special task force considering this jubilee]]. ([[:hr:Wikipedija:Wikiprojekt Hrvatska/1100. obljetnica Hrvatskog Kraljevstva/Članci|article list]])
-== Croatian settlement articles mass creation ==
+I would like to encourage all participants to write and expand on existing related articles. [[User:Mudroslov|Mudroslov]] ([[User talk:Mudroslov|talk]]) 20:00, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
-[[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Croatia/Archive_5#2021_census_infobox_update|As I promised back in May]], I went through some [[Special:Contributions/PonoRoboT|3500]] Croatian settlement, town/city and municipality articles updating their 2021 population, area and website data, and for some also adding the missing infoboxes. I hope nobody got too upset about that. There are about 3000 "''[[naselje]]''" articles still missing, and I know @[[User:Gruesome Gary|Gruesome Gary]] and @[[User:W.G.J.|W.G.J.]] have added a few hundred just recently. This, though, can be highly automated. It should be pretty easy for me to create articles like the new [[Dubrava, Split-Dalmatia County|Dubrava]] (S-D C) article. Before I make a [[WP:MASSCREATE]] proposal, I will need #1 your opinions on all this, and #2 your help. As for #2: please check [[Dubrava, Split-Dalmatia County]] and tell me:
-# what else could be added, that you think a bot could do (empty parameters included, for someone to fill in in the future)
-# what should not be there
-# what to do with {{tl|Commons category}} (I don't expect many settlements to have it; I might be able to get it from Wikidata)
-# should anything be worded differently, e.g. how do we differentiate villages from settlements, cities from towns.
-I will post a list of all new article names, linked, which should give us all red links. If any turn blue, like in [[Podgora]] (say we're creating [[Podgora, Dubrovnik-Neretva County]]), the bot will need help, and so will I. But first things first: what do you think of this whole idea, put forward by @[[User:Joy|Joy]] on my talk page. Thanks, [[User:Ponor|Ponor]] ([[User talk:Ponor|talk]]) 13:49, 29 September 2023 (UTC)