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What did he do to become a saint? [[Special:Contributions/50.207.82.18|50.207.82.18]] ([[User talk:50.207.82.18|talk]]) 20:13, 11 January 2024 (UTC) |
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== Croatian settlement articles mass creation II == |
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::I also wanted to mention that the topic of ''naselja'' is currently described mostly with these clerical or primary sources, but there's also coverage of the concept in scholarly sources, such as searching [[Hrčak]] for e.g. 'naselja Hrvatske' [https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=naselja+hrvatske+site%3Ahrcak.srce.hr with Google] or [https://hrcak.srce.hr/pretraga?q=naselja+hrvatske with their search]. Because the earlier concerns about settlements were that they were often census-invented, we should make sure to explain how this census data is describing practical reality of human settlement (as opposed to shoehorning population data into geolocations artificially). --[[User:Joy|Joy]] ([[User talk:Joy|talk]]) 10:52, 23 July 2024 (UTC) |
::I also wanted to mention that the topic of ''naselja'' is currently described mostly with these clerical or primary sources, but there's also coverage of the concept in scholarly sources, such as searching [[Hrčak]] for e.g. 'naselja Hrvatske' [https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=naselja+hrvatske+site%3Ahrcak.srce.hr with Google] or [https://hrcak.srce.hr/pretraga?q=naselja+hrvatske with their search]. Because the earlier concerns about settlements were that they were often census-invented, we should make sure to explain how this census data is describing practical reality of human settlement (as opposed to shoehorning population data into geolocations artificially). --[[User:Joy|Joy]] ([[User talk:Joy|talk]]) 10:52, 23 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:::True. The minimum of information may be sourced to the online edition of the [[Croatian Encyclopedia]] [https://www.enciklopedija.hr/ here] for some of them and Istrapedija [https://www.istrapedia.hr/hr/ here] (Istria County and LZMK joint project). Hrčak is a very good resource.--[[User:Tomobe03|Tomobe03]] ([[User talk:Tomobe03|talk]]) 15:16, 23 July 2024 (UTC) |
:::True. The minimum of information may be sourced to the online edition of the [[Croatian Encyclopedia]] [https://www.enciklopedija.hr/ here] for some of them and Istrapedija [https://www.istrapedia.hr/hr/ here] (Istria County and LZMK joint project). Hrčak is a very good resource.--[[User:Tomobe03|Tomobe03]] ([[User talk:Tomobe03|talk]]) 15:16, 23 July 2024 (UTC) |
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::::It would be interesting to see what this [https://www.amazon.com/Domovinska-Enciklopedija-12-Zagrebacka-hrvatskih/dp/9538162005 12-volume Homeland encyclopedia] really is. The editors claim 2500 people collected data and stories on 6500+ Croatian settlements. @[[User:Joy|Joy]] @[[User:Tomobe03|Tomobe03]] [[User:Ponor|Ponor]] ([[User talk:Ponor|talk]]) 01:28, 15 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::I have not had a chance to have a look at it yet. Judging only from the publisher being an enterprise not normally publishing scientific literature, I'd be cautious about anything published there and probably would not include anything not corroborated by another RS. In the worst case scenario, it could be a good pointer for research.--[[User:Tomobe03|Tomobe03]] ([[User talk:Tomobe03|talk]]) 08:46, 15 October 2024 (UTC) |
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== [[1970s in Croatian television]] == |
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I don't know much about Croatia or television, but I found a lot of nearly-empty stubs for years in 1970s Croatian television, and it looks like nobody has worked on most of them for a few years, so I am currently merging them into one page for the decade ([[Draft: 1970s in Croatian television]]). I'll move it to [[1970s in Croatian television]] when I've added the content from all of the year stubs. I have moved all of the individual stubs to draft space. [[User:Industrial Metal Brain|Industrial Metal Brain]] ([[User talk:Industrial Metal Brain|talk]]) 02:12, 16 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:I'll do the 1960s next if I get time ant nobody objects? [[User:Industrial Metal Brain|Industrial Metal Brain]] ([[User talk:Industrial Metal Brain|talk]]) 02:14, 16 November 2024 (UTC) |
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== 1100th anniversary of the Croatian Kingdom == |
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On the initiative of the [[Matica hrvatska]] and [[Brethren of the Croatian Dragon]] [[Sabor]] proclaimed 2025 as "The year of the 1100th anniversary of the Croatian Kingdom" (''Godina obilježavanja 1100. obljetnice Hrvatskoga Kraljevstva''). ([https://www.matica.hr/novosti/na-inicijativu-matice-hrvatske-i-druzbe-braca-hrvatskoga-zmaja-hrvatski-sabor-proglasio-2025-godinom-obiljezavanja-1100-obljetnice-hrvatskoga-kraljevstva-368/ source]) |
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There will be many events and commemorations considering this anniversary in Croatian and abroad. (for. ex. [https://odbor1100.wixsite.com/hrvatskokraljevstvo]) |
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Croatian-edition of the project started [[:hr:Wikipedija:Wikiprojekt Hrvatska/1100. obljetnica Hrvatskog Kraljevstva/Članci|special task force considering this jubilee]]. ([[:hr:Wikipedija:Wikiprojekt Hrvatska/1100. obljetnica Hrvatskog Kraljevstva/Članci|article list]]) |
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I would like to encourage all participants to write and expand on existing related articles. [[User:Mudroslov|Mudroslov]] ([[User talk:Mudroslov|talk]]) 20:00, 12 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== Requested move at [[Talk:Dodola and Perperuna#Requested move 22 August 2024]] == |
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[[File:Information.svg|30px|left]] There is a requested move discussion at [[Talk:Dodola and Perperuna#Requested move 22 August 2024]] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. [[User_talk:Asukite|<span style="color:Purple;font-size:medium;font-family:Bradley Hand ITC"> ASUKITE</span>]] 21:14, 30 August 2024 (UTC) |
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Croatian settlement articles mass creation II
[edit]Previously: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Croatia/Archive 5#Croatian settlement articles mass creation
While @Joy and I are preparing for a wider discussion on the creation of the remaining 3200 Croatian settlement stubs, it'd be good to gather some sources to "illustrate the body of scholarly and other work out there on the topic of these settlements". Feel free to join!
- Naselje
- Croatian law with tables of municipalities and settlements
- Register of spatial units of the State Geodetic Administration of the Republic of Croatia, Wikidata Q119585703 whose data is used by the Croatian Bureau of Statistics in 2021 Croatian census: population data by age, sex, settlement (in Croatian and English), Croatian Bureau of Statistics, 22 September 2022, Wikidata Q118496886
- All those settlements are on the List of Croatian settlements and delivery post offices, Wikidata Q125763583 (follow the Qid for their search engine link)
- Many will have a school (usually as "područna škola")
- While all municipalities list their settlements on their websites, some are more verbose: vrlika.hr or vratisinec.hr or lovinac.hr is my quick random choice. Some histories go back many centuries ago.
- When it comes to scholarly work, one can find 700 pp books like Narodna umjetnost: Studije i građa u Sinjskoj krajini covering history and ethnography of a region, old settlements included. IMO, lack of sources is not a problem, it's the lack of people who'd write articles. Creating articles from scratch is a tedious process (waste of time for humans for sure), having something like Dubrava, Split-Dalmatia County should be a good start.
Ponor (talk) 17:04, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Adresar JLP(R)S here contains links to municipal/city websites and names of mayors etc. --Tomobe03 (talk) 20:07, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- I also wanted to mention that the topic of naselja is currently described mostly with these clerical or primary sources, but there's also coverage of the concept in scholarly sources, such as searching Hrčak for e.g. 'naselja Hrvatske' with Google or with their search. Because the earlier concerns about settlements were that they were often census-invented, we should make sure to explain how this census data is describing practical reality of human settlement (as opposed to shoehorning population data into geolocations artificially). --Joy (talk) 10:52, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- True. The minimum of information may be sourced to the online edition of the Croatian Encyclopedia here for some of them and Istrapedija here (Istria County and LZMK joint project). Hrčak is a very good resource.--Tomobe03 (talk) 15:16, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- It would be interesting to see what this 12-volume Homeland encyclopedia really is. The editors claim 2500 people collected data and stories on 6500+ Croatian settlements. @Joy @Tomobe03 Ponor (talk) 01:28, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- I have not had a chance to have a look at it yet. Judging only from the publisher being an enterprise not normally publishing scientific literature, I'd be cautious about anything published there and probably would not include anything not corroborated by another RS. In the worst case scenario, it could be a good pointer for research.--Tomobe03 (talk) 08:46, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- It would be interesting to see what this 12-volume Homeland encyclopedia really is. The editors claim 2500 people collected data and stories on 6500+ Croatian settlements. @Joy @Tomobe03 Ponor (talk) 01:28, 15 October 2024 (UTC)
- True. The minimum of information may be sourced to the online edition of the Croatian Encyclopedia here for some of them and Istrapedija here (Istria County and LZMK joint project). Hrčak is a very good resource.--Tomobe03 (talk) 15:16, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- I also wanted to mention that the topic of naselja is currently described mostly with these clerical or primary sources, but there's also coverage of the concept in scholarly sources, such as searching Hrčak for e.g. 'naselja Hrvatske' with Google or with their search. Because the earlier concerns about settlements were that they were often census-invented, we should make sure to explain how this census data is describing practical reality of human settlement (as opposed to shoehorning population data into geolocations artificially). --Joy (talk) 10:52, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Good article reassessment for Adriatic Sea
[edit]Adriatic Sea has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 22:13, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
I don't know much about Croatia or television, but I found a lot of nearly-empty stubs for years in 1970s Croatian television, and it looks like nobody has worked on most of them for a few years, so I am currently merging them into one page for the decade (Draft: 1970s in Croatian television). I'll move it to 1970s in Croatian television when I've added the content from all of the year stubs. I have moved all of the individual stubs to draft space. Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 02:12, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- I'll do the 1960s next if I get time ant nobody objects? Industrial Metal Brain (talk) 02:14, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
1100th anniversary of the Croatian Kingdom
[edit]On the initiative of the Matica hrvatska and Brethren of the Croatian Dragon Sabor proclaimed 2025 as "The year of the 1100th anniversary of the Croatian Kingdom" (Godina obilježavanja 1100. obljetnice Hrvatskoga Kraljevstva). (source)
There will be many events and commemorations considering this anniversary in Croatian and abroad. (for. ex. [1])
Croatian-edition of the project started special task force considering this jubilee. (article list)
I would like to encourage all participants to write and expand on existing related articles. Mudroslov (talk) 20:00, 12 December 2024 (UTC)