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==Wiki Education assignment: IFS213-Hacking and Open Source Culture, Fall 2024==
Someone really needs to go back and revert the damage done by [[Eric_S._Raymond]]. He applied his bias to article. It was originally about the hacker culture that included all sides, not just open source. He went and changed it to open source removing all the other references and information that didn't fit his worldview. The changes are too big of a project for me to take, but I hope someone can properly seperate this out and make people from both hacker culture's happy without the opensource hacker culture editing the page and claiming to be the one true hacker culture.
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<span class="wikied-assignment" style="font-size:85%;">— Assignment last updated by [[User:MollyBN|MollyBN]] ([[User talk:MollyBN|talk]]) 02:10, 6 November 2024 (UTC)</span>

== Big problems ==

I've got some really big problems with this and many of the other hacker pages. As the guy below points out, you are assuming your terminology is correct. There is the open source hacker subculture as well as the darker (bad word) hacker subculture. I just removed a section because it was wrong. There is a huge overlap in philosophy and membership. Both groups are filled with open source contributers and way too many libertarian thoughts. Even on the hacker page you list Steve Wozniak. Should we throw him into the darkside because he was a phreak? I know wikipedia is polluted by open source fanboys, but seriously, stop the bias. Stop assuming you know the one true hacker subculture. Stop assuming that your terms of seperating hacker/cracker should be accepted by all. Definitely mention the arguments. Explain them as a perspective, and then move on. Seperate out the pages. Have a page on the brighter side and the darker side, but stop assuming your perspective of the world applies to other people.


== Which Hacker culture? ==

This whole page is definitely along with the "hackers, not crackers" school of thought, which is no surprise given that it has been heavily editted by [[Eric_S._Raymond]]. The [[Hacker]] entry, although IMO slanted, at least gives multiple views to the definition of what a hacker is and who are the people that claim themselves as hackers.

Should this page thus reflect the multiple facets of the definition of hacker with multiple views at what hacker cultures are? Or are the cultures around the alternative definitions to be driven down to an ESR-esque [[Cracker culture]] instead? --[[User:Golgo13|Golgo13]] 17:20, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)


== [[Free software]] movement ==

Shouldn't there be a mention of the free software movement in the introduction, after all it is evident in the GNU manifesto that stallman created GNU so as to bring back the hacker culture. (--[[User:Alexos|el magnifico]] 14:34, 21 August 2005 (UTC))

== Merge with UNIX culture ==

Doesn't it make more sense to say that UNIX is a product of the hacker culture for the most part? Ken Thompson and others who have worked on bringing UNIX to where it is today are strong examples of Hackers.

Latest revision as of 08:38, 14 December 2024

Wiki Education assignment: IFS213-Hacking and Open Source Culture, Fall 2024

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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 3 September 2024 and 13 December 2024. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): AdamBarnette (article contribs). Peer reviewers: Casxy.

— Assignment last updated by MollyBN (talk) 02:10, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]