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==Wiki Education assignment: Research Process and Methodology - FA23 - Sect 202 - Thu==
== Share a Smile Becky's wheelchair ==
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Article states Mattel said (back in the 90s) they would redesign the Barbie Dream House to accommodate Share A Smile Becky's wheelchair. Did that happen? Word is they discontinued the doll instead. Are we giving Mattel free PR here? [[Special:Contributions/45.16.144.177|45.16.144.177]] ([[User talk:45.16.144.177|talk]]) 19:58, 15 April 2023 (UTC)


== Just in Time ==
== Barbara Millicent Roberts in the opening sentence ==


Barbie is given as an example of "Just in Time" manufacturing in the book [[The Box]] by [[Marc Levinson]] in chapter 14. *{{Cite book|title=The Box: How the Shipping Container Made the World Smaller and the World Economy Bigger|last=Levinson|first=Marc|publisher=Princeton University Press|year=2016|page=355|isbn=978-0-691-17081-7|edition=2nd}} [[User:MountVic127|MountVic127]] ([[User talk:MountVic127|talk]]) 07:28, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
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Re [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbenheimer this edit]: As I said previously, the doll's [[WP:COMMONNAME]] is Barbie and it is never sold under the name Barbara Millicent Roberts. There seems to be a certain amount of [[WP:RECENTISM]] driven by the release of the new Barbie film. The full name doesn't need to be in the opening sentence. '''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 12:52, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
:The in-universe name of the fictional character (the term "Barbie" has evolved from just the doll and is also considered a fictional character, which is mentioned in the lead) is Barbara Millicent Roberts. This is not recent, the name was introduced in the early books in the 1960s and has been used consistently in books and films. The 2023 film just affirms this fact. Please return the characters full name to the lead sentence, where alternate names usually appear on Wikipedia. Thanks. [[User:Randy Kryn|Randy Kryn]] ([[User talk:Randy Kryn|talk]]) 12:58, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
::This article is mainly about the doll and its accessories. These are always sold by Mattel under the Barbie brand. Barbara Millicent Roberts is a fictional character who appears in books and films based on the doll. This is something that needs to made clear right from the start. Previous wording has conflated the two, leading to confusion.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 14:40, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
:::There is, as far as I know, not a separate article on the character BMR, so this is the page where that would go. It already has in-universe information and a section, so adding her full name to the lead paragraph just serves to summarize what is already contained in the article and infobox. The cat's already out of the bag with configuring the doll and the character, so unless a separate page is written maybe consider adding the name back in the lead sentence. Thanks. [[User:Randy Kryn|Randy Kryn]] ([[User talk:Randy Kryn|talk]]) 14:46, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
::::Introducing the topic with her full name conflicts with Wikipedia's [[MOS:REALWORLD]] tone. She is known only as Barbie, and introducing her in any other way will cause confusion like it did for me. I arrived at the page and thought "Who is Barbara Millicent Roberts? Am I at the right page?" It should be mentioned in the article but not in the lead. Same with Ken and other Barbie characters. [[User:TarkusAB|<span style="color: #000000">'''TarkusAB'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:TarkusAB|<span style="color: #aa0000">'''talk'''</span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/TarkusAB|<span style="color: #aa0000">'''contrib'''</span>]]</sup> 17:15, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
:::::Leads summarize the body of their article. This article details BMR's in-universe existence. That why the lead should include information about the character. BMR is defined in the text, has a full name and a full history, and books, films, video games and the like attest to the in-universe characters that the doll represents. [[User:Randy Kryn|Randy Kryn]] ([[User talk:Randy Kryn|talk]]) 22:50, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
:The in-universe full name is a minor part of the much larger Barbie story, and doesn't belong in the opening sentence. This isn't an article about the Barbie universe, it's an article about the entire Barbie phenomenon. We should carefully keep in-universe storyline stuff distinct from real-world storyline stuff. We don't mention Clark Kent or Kal-El in the first sentence of [[Superman]], for example; nor Peter Parker in [[Spider-Man]]. [[User:Jpgordon|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|&#x1d122;&#x1d106;&#x1D110;&#x1d107;]]</small></sup> 23:29, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
::Kal-El, Clark Kent, and Peter Parkere are mentioned and boldfaced right at the start of the second paragraphs, which seems about right, there and here. [[User:Randy Kryn|Randy Kryn]] ([[User talk:Randy Kryn|talk]]) 23:36, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
:::Not fair comparisons. Peter Parker and Clark Kent are aliases of the superhero characters, and are often represented separately from their superhero aliases. They are both COMMONNAMEs. Beyond the most obsessive Barbie fanatics, Barbie's "full name" is trivia fancruft. This is evident by the fact that secondary sources virtually never mention it. In trying to summarize the history and key facts of the Barbie doll brand in 3-4 paragraphs, Barbie's "full name" does not need to be there. [[User:TarkusAB|<span style="color: #000000">'''TarkusAB'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:TarkusAB|<span style="color: #aa0000">'''talk'''</span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/TarkusAB|<span style="color: #aa0000">'''contrib'''</span>]]</sup> 00:35, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
:[[User:Ianmacm|@Ianmacm]] '''EDIT''': When I say "mentioned" and "included", I mean mentioned first think in the lead.


== Blind Barbie ==
The full names are mentioned in many articles for fictional characters. See the characters with their own articles linked at [[List of Barbie's friends and family]] (i.e. [[Skipper (Barbie)|Skipper Roberts]], [[Francie (Barbie)|Francie Fairchild]]), [[List of The Simpsons characters]] (i.e. [[Homer Simpson|Homer Jay Simpson]], [[Bart Simpson|Bartholomew Jojo "Bart" Simpson]]), [[List of characters in the Family Guy franchise]] (i.e. [[Peter Griffin|Peter Löwenbräu Griffin Sr.]], [[Stewie Griffin|Stewart Gilligan "Stewie" Griffin]]), [[List of SpongeBob SquarePants characters]] (i.e. [[Squidward Tentacles|Squidward Q. Tentacles]], [[Mr. Krabs|Eugene Harold Krabs]]). More can be found at [[Lists of fictional characters by work]]. [[MOS:INUNIVERSE]] mentions not including titles and birth dates of fictional characters, but doesn't explicitly mention full names. I believe they should be included on Barbie and [[Ken (doll)|Ken]]'s pages, as they are included on other Barbie character pages, as well as many other fictional character pages. [[User:Strugglehouse|Strugglehouse]] ([[User talk:Strugglehouse|talk]]) 16:05, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
::Of course the name should be included in the article. The discussion is about its placement. The full name doesn't need to be in the opening sentence, and probably not in the lede at all; we don't go in-universe until the Fictional Biography section, where it's appropriate. [[User:Jpgordon|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|&#x1d122;&#x1d106;&#x1D110;&#x1d107;]]</small></sup> 17:05, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
:::[[User:Jpgordon|@Jpgordon]] I don't think I wordes it correctly. See all the links I gave. The full names are given first thing in the article in many, many articles about fictional characters. Why should the Barbie and Ken articles be different? [[User:Strugglehouse|Strugglehouse]] ([[User talk:Strugglehouse|talk]]) 20:09, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
::::Those are fictional characters, this is a product. Yes there is a fictional universe created around the product, but is not a central part of the nature of these dolls in regards to what reliable sources talk about. Sources talk about Barbie toys as products first and foremost, not as characters. [[User:TarkusAB|<span style="color: #000000">'''TarkusAB'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:TarkusAB|<span style="color: #aa0000">'''talk'''</span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/TarkusAB|<span style="color: #aa0000">'''contrib'''</span>]]</sup> 21:48, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
:::::Exactly so. This is not an article about a fictional character, it's an article about a toy. [[User:Jpgordon|--jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|&#x1d122;&#x1d106;&#x1D110;&#x1d107;]]</small></sup> 03:19, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
The lead should summarize the page, and Barbie's in-universe identity and media presence is a big part of the page. See [[:Category:Barbie]] for a directory to Wikipedia's articles on the topic. This page has become about more than the doll, and when its lead summary drifts from the doll that's where Barbie's full in-universe name should be found. [[User:Randy Kryn|Randy Kryn]] ([[User talk:Randy Kryn|talk]]) 06:10, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
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:The problem with putting it in the opening sentence is that gives undue prominence to a name that is hardly ever used for referring to Barbie in real world situations. [[Aqua (band)|Aqua]] did not write a song called "Barbara Millicent Roberts Girl".--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 16:47, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
:Barbie is the real world doll and brand. Placing its fictional identity in the lede provides undue emphasis on the fictional character and doesn't reflect how sources treat the subject. <nowiki>:</nowiki>3 [[User:Freedom4U|F4U]] ([[User talk:Freedom4U|they]][[Special:Contributions/Freedom4U|/it]]) 16:47, 28 July 2023 (UTC)


There's now a Blind Barbie, created with support from the American Foundation of the Blind. I think this is worth mentioning.
== Barbenheimer in See Also section ==


I'm happy to put something together but of course anyone else can jump in if they like. [[User:KaraLG84|KaraLG84]] ([[User talk:KaraLG84|talk]]) 00:02, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Why is Barbenheimer in the See Also section? I feel like that should only bee a "See Also" in the article for the [[Barbie (film)|Barbie film]]. It just doesn't seem relevant enough here, especially when the See Also section doesn't even include the film. [[User:NowInHD|NowInHD]] ([[User talk:NowInHD|talk]]) 16:37, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
:The film is in the lead paragraph. Barbenheimer is one of the major societal and historical events to occur about Barbie, and has received well over a million views the last 20 days. Seems appropriate for at least a See also mention (or maybe added to the lead?). [[User:Randy Kryn|Randy Kryn]] ([[User talk:Randy Kryn|talk]]) 22:48, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
::Smells of [[WP:RECENTISM]]. Can probably be worked into the article properly in the appropriate section. [[User:TarkusAB|<span style="color: #000000">'''TarkusAB'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:TarkusAB|<span style="color: #aa0000">'''talk'''</span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/TarkusAB|<span style="color: #aa0000">'''contrib'''</span>]]</sup> 23:28, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
:::Agreed. Since Barbenheimer falls under [[Barbie (media franchise)]], which is already listed in the see also section, i think it is unnecessary to put it in again. Also calling Barbenheimer one of the major societal and historical events to occur about Barbie is, in my opinion, an overstatement. [[User:NowInHD|NowInHD]] ([[User talk:NowInHD|talk]]) 16:53, 4 August 2023 (UTC)


:Added a couple of sentences about the blind Barbie as well as the black Barbie with Down Syndrome. I wasn't sure how to expand the little I wrote without sounding like I was paraphrasing the article in my citation. [[User:KaraLG84|KaraLG84]] ([[User talk:KaraLG84|talk]]) 15:00, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
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"In 2020, the company announced a new release of "shero" dolls, including Paralympic champion [[Madison de Rozario]] ..."


"During a trip to Europe in 1956" '''change to''' During a family trip to [[Switzerland]] in 1956"
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and world four-time sabre champion [[Olga Kharlan]].<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.kyivpost.com/post/7783|title=Barbie launches doll inspired by Ukrainian fencer Olga Kharlan|website=Kyiv Post|author=Toma Istomina|date=March 5, 2020}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=http://fie.org/articles/964|title=Fencing focus: Olga Kharlan|website=FIE official website|date=June 30, 2020}}</ref>


<nowiki><ref name="J/slb/bJ?">{{cite news |last1=Bartov |first1=Shira Li |title=Is Barbie Jewish? The complex Jewish history of the doll, explained |url=https://jweekly.com/2023/07/10/is-barbie-jewish-the-complex-jewish-history-of-the-doll-explained/ |access-date=27 August 2024 |date=July 10, 2023 |work=[[J. The Jewish News of Northern California]]}}</ref></nowiki>
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*{{done}}: Various sources say that it was during a trip to Switzerland, eg [https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20160511-the-changing-faces-of-barbie BBC] [https://time.com/3731483/barbie-history/ Time].--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 07:04, 28 August 2024 (UTC)


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== Early Japanese manufacturer ==


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Which Japanese company produced Barbie dolls in the early days? Well, the [[Japanese Wikipedia]]'s [[:ja:バービー|{{Lang|ja|バービー}}]] article names [https://www.kokusaiboeki.co.jp/ Kokusai Boeki] ({{Lang|ja|(株)国際貿易}}) as such. But, as with many other articles in that edition, the article does not provide enough sources.
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I know blogs cannot be cited as sources, but [https://unseen-japan.com/barbie-first-wardrobe-was-made-in-tokyo/ this post] from ''Unseen Japan'' describes how the first Barbie dolls and wardrobes were made in Japan, and it too names Kokusai Boeki. The post additionally mentions a book, the title of which can be literally translated as ''Barbie and Me'', written by Fumiko Miyatsuka who designed Barbie's clothes during that period. Japanese Writer's House has a [https://jwh.trannet.co.jp/works/view/10043 detailed summary about that book in English]. [[User:JSH-alive|JSH-alive]]/<sup>[[User talk:JSH-alive|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/JSH-alive|cont]]/[[Special:Emailuser/JSH-alive|mail]]</sup> 05:43, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

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In the history section of the article the first sentence of the second pararagraph is "During a trip to Europe in 1956 with her children Barbara and Kenneth, Ruth Handler came across a German toy doll called Bild Lilli." the name Kenneth should link to the page [[Kenneth Handler]]. Can someone please add this edit? [[Special:Contributions/2601:806:8300:D0D0:7480:6009:E69F:BEB8|2601:806:8300:D0D0:7480:6009:E69F:BEB8]] ([[User talk:2601:806:8300:D0D0:7480:6009:E69F:BEB8|talk]]) 21:18, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
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<nowiki>== Further reading ==</nowiki>
Regarding this


<nowiki>* {{cite web |title=Barbie's Dirty Secrets |url=https://www.channel4.com/programmes/barbies-dirty-secrets-dispatches |website=[[Dispatches]] |publisher=[[Channel 4]] <!-- |access-date=13 October 2024 -->}}</nowiki>
"In 2020, Mattel sold $1.35 billion worth of Barbie dolls and accessories, and this was their best sales growth in two decades. This is an increase from the $950 million the brand sold during 2017."


[[Special:Contributions/69.181.17.113|69.181.17.113]] ([[User talk:69.181.17.113|talk]]) 07:58, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
Can this be removed? The Bloomberg source cites Mattel's annual reports but I can't find where this is info is mentioned in those reports. [[User:Timur9008|Timur9008]] ([[User talk:Timur9008|talk]]) 14:38, 21 August 2023 (UTC)


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:[[User:Paper9oll]] What do you think?

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Just in Time

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Barbie is given as an example of "Just in Time" manufacturing in the book The Box by Marc Levinson in chapter 14. *Levinson, Marc (2016). The Box: How the Shipping Container Made the World Smaller and the World Economy Bigger (2nd ed.). Princeton University Press. p. 355. ISBN 978-0-691-17081-7. MountVic127 (talk) 07:28, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Blind Barbie

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There's now a Blind Barbie, created with support from the American Foundation of the Blind. I think this is worth mentioning.

I'm happy to put something together but of course anyone else can jump in if they like. KaraLG84 (talk) 00:02, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Added a couple of sentences about the blind Barbie as well as the black Barbie with Down Syndrome. I wasn't sure how to expand the little I wrote without sounding like I was paraphrasing the article in my citation. KaraLG84 (talk) 15:00, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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"During a trip to Europe in 1956" change to During a family trip to Switzerland in 1956"


<ref name="J/slb/bJ?">{{cite news |last1=Bartov |first1=Shira Li |title=Is Barbie Jewish? The complex Jewish history of the doll, explained |url=https://jweekly.com/2023/07/10/is-barbie-jewish-the-complex-jewish-history-of-the-doll-explained/ |access-date=27 August 2024 |date=July 10, 2023 |work=[[J. The Jewish News of Northern California]]}}</ref>

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== Further reading ==

* {{cite web |title=Barbie's Dirty Secrets |url=https://www.channel4.com/programmes/barbies-dirty-secrets-dispatches |website=[[Dispatches]] |publisher=[[Channel 4]] <!-- |access-date=13 October 2024 -->}}

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