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Just in Time

Barbie is given as an example of "Just in Time" manufacturing in the book The Box by Marc Levinson in chapter 14. *Levinson, Marc (2016). The Box: How the Shipping Container Made the World Smaller and the World Economy Bigger (2nd ed.). Princeton University Press. p. 355. ISBN 978-0-691-17081-7. MountVic127 (talk) 07:28, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Blind Barbie

There's now a Blind Barbie, created with support from the American Foundation of the Blind. I think this is worth mentioning.

I'm happy to put something together but of course anyone else can jump in if they like. KaraLG84 (talk) 00:02, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Added a couple of sentences about the blind Barbie as well as the black Barbie with Down Syndrome. I wasn't sure how to expand the little I wrote without sounding like I was paraphrasing the article in my citation. KaraLG84 (talk) 15:00, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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"During a trip to Europe in 1956" change to During a family trip to Switzerland in 1956"

<ref name="J/slb/bJ?">{{cite news |last1=Bartov |first1=Shira Li |title=Is Barbie Jewish? The complex Jewish history of the doll, explained |url=https://jweekly.com/2023/07/10/is-barbie-jewish-the-complex-jewish-history-of-the-doll-explained/ |access-date=27 August 2024 |date=July 10, 2023 |work=[[J. The Jewish News of Northern California]]}}</ref>

98.248.161.240 (talk) 21:38, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done: Various sources say that it was during a trip to Switzerland, eg BBC Time.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:04, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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== Further reading ==

* {{cite web |title=Barbie's Dirty Secrets |url=https://www.channel4.com/programmes/barbies-dirty-secrets-dispatches |website=[[Dispatches]] |publisher=[[Channel 4]] }}

69.181.17.113 (talk) 07:58, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: The problem with this is that it is an online TV show from Channel 4 and would only be watchable in the UK.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 08:19, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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+== Just in Time ==
-"In 2020, the company announced a new release of "shero" dolls, including Paralympic champion [[Madison de Rozario]] ..."
+Barbie is given as an example of "Just in Time" manufacturing in the book [[The Box]] by [[Marc Levinson]] in chapter 14. *{{Cite book|title=The Box: How the Shipping Container Made the World Smaller and the World Economy Bigger|last=Levinson|first=Marc|publisher=Princeton University Press|year=2016|page=355|isbn=978-0-691-17081-7|edition=2nd}} [[User:MountVic127|MountVic127]] ([[User talk:MountVic127|talk]]) 07:28, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
-''the following'':
+== Blind Barbie ==
-and world four-time sabre champion [[Olga Kharlan]].<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.kyivpost.com/post/7783|title=Barbie launches doll inspired by Ukrainian fencer Olga Kharlan|website=Kyiv Post|author=Toma Istomina|date=March 5, 2020}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|url=http://fie.org/articles/964|title=Fencing focus: Olga Kharlan|website=FIE official website|date=June 30, 2020}}</ref>
+There's now a  Blind Barbie, created with support from the American Foundation of the Blind. I think this is worth mentioning.
-[[Special:Contributions/2603:7000:2101:AA00:68FC:A954:FFAA:2DFD|2603:7000:2101:AA00:68FC:A954:FFAA:2DFD]] ([[User talk:2603:7000:2101:AA00:68FC:A954:FFAA:2DFD|talk]]) 06:08, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
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+I'm happy to put something together but of course anyone else can jump in if they like. [[User:KaraLG84|KaraLG84]] ([[User talk:KaraLG84|talk]]) 00:02, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
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+:Added a couple of sentences about the blind Barbie as well as the black Barbie with Down Syndrome. I wasn't sure how to expand the little I wrote without sounding like I was paraphrasing the article in my citation. [[User:KaraLG84|KaraLG84]] ([[User talk:KaraLG84|talk]]) 15:00, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
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-In the history section of the article the first sentence of the second pararagraph is "During a trip to Europe in 1956 with her children Barbara and Kenneth, Ruth Handler came across a German toy doll called Bild Lilli." the name Kenneth should link to the page [[Kenneth Handler]]. Can someone please add this edit? [[Special:Contributions/2601:806:8300:D0D0:7480:6009:E69F:BEB8|2601:806:8300:D0D0:7480:6009:E69F:BEB8]] ([[User talk:2601:806:8300:D0D0:7480:6009:E69F:BEB8|talk]]) 21:18, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
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-== Top (toy sales info) ==
+"During a trip to Europe in 1956" '''change to''' During a family trip to [[Switzerland]] in 1956"
-Regarding this
-"In 2020, Mattel sold $1.35 billion worth of Barbie dolls and accessories, and this was their best sales growth in two decades. This is an increase from the $950 million the brand sold during 2017."
+<nowiki><ref name="J/slb/bJ?">{{cite news |last1=Bartov |first1=Shira Li |title=Is Barbie Jewish? The complex Jewish history of the doll, explained |url=https://jweekly.com/2023/07/10/is-barbie-jewish-the-complex-jewish-history-of-the-doll-explained/ |access-date=27 August 2024 |date=July 10, 2023 |work=[[J. The Jewish News of Northern California]]}}</ref></nowiki>
-Can this be removed? The Bloomberg source cites Mattel's annual reports but I can't find where this is info is mentioned in those reports. [[User:Timur9008|Timur9008]] ([[User talk:Timur9008|talk]]) 14:38, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
-:[[User:Paper9oll]] What do you think? [[User:Timur9008|Timur9008]] ([[User talk:Timur9008|talk]]) 13:03, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
+[[Special:Contributions/98.248.161.240|98.248.161.240]] ([[User talk:98.248.161.240|talk]]) 21:38, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
+*{{done}}: Various sources say that it was during a trip to Switzerland, eg [https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20160511-the-changing-faces-of-barbie BBC] [https://time.com/3731483/barbie-history/ Time].--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 07:04, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
+== Semi-protected edit request on 13 October 2024 ==
-==the doll of the judge is so important it requires a mention in the lede section==
+{{edit semi-protected|Barbie|answered=yes}}
-regarding [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Barbie&diff=prev&oldid=1180061357 this reversion]: the [[State court (United States)|state judiciary]] is incredibly relevant in the context of women’s history and at least two cast members ([[Ana Cruz Kayne]]<ref>{{cite web |title=Supreme Court Justice Barbie Says It’s ‘So Important’ to Talk About Abortion 1 Year After Roe v. Wade Decision (Exclusive) |url=https://themessenger.com/entertainment/supreme-court-justice-barbie-important-talk-abortion-1-year-after-roe-v-wade-exclusive |website=The Messenger |access-date=14 October 2023}}</ref> and [[America Ferrera]]<ref>{{cite web |title=I would take the all female Supreme Court. |url=https://www.instagram.com/p/CvQPBS_Bk57/ |access-date=14 October 2023}}</ref>) of the 2023 film have publicly discussed the depiction of women in the judiciary in the Barbie franchise and its relationship to the ''[[Roe v. Wade]]'' and ''[[Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization|Dobbs v. Jackson]]'' decisions. in my view, this merits a mention at the minimum.
+ADD
-[[User:IsadoraofIbiza|<span style="color: #ff50aa; font-family: serif;">isadora of ibiza</span>]] [[User talk:IsadoraofIbiza|<span style="color: #ff50aa;">(talk)</span>]] 21:51, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
-:The [[WP:LEAD]] is a summary, it should not include things that are not discussed later on in the article.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 07:19, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
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-== yes, Barbie generates revenue, not Mattel ==
-i understand the instinct behind [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Barbie&curid=164328&diff=1180690589&oldid=1180547017 this change]. but there is a certain subtlety here: ''Barbie'' is not a single [[Product (business)|product]], but a gestalt system of related products and services. it is not '''incorrect''' per-se to say Mattel generates the revenue. but it is more '''informative''' to say that Barbie generates the revenue. it is like saying [[iPhone]] generates much of its revenue from [[smartphone]] sales and [[App Store (Apple)|app store]] fees. you could also say [[Apple Inc.|Apple]] generates the revenue. but why say that and not ''iPhone''?
-[[User:IsadoraofIbiza|<span style="color: #ff50aa; font-family: serif;">isadora of ibiza</span>]] [[User talk:IsadoraofIbiza|<span style="color: #ff50aa;">(talk)</span>]] 06:15, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
-Re [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Barbie&diff=prev&oldid=1180853314 this edit]: the wording is unencyclopedic. Barbie is a plastic toy doll, not a real person. Mattel is the company that makes the money.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 07:16, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
-: i’m well aware Barbie is not a real person, and it seems you have a somewhat incorrect assumption of what i am trying to argue here. let’s replace ''Barbie'' with something less entangled in the current [[culture war]], like [[Epcot]]. the [[Walt Disney Company]] is the company that owns Epcot. the Walt Disney Company is the company that makes all the money. but the Walt Disney Company makes money from a lot of different properties besides Epcot. it’s not really helpful to the reader to frame everything about Epcot in the context of the Walt Disney Company. and if you take a look at the article for Epcot, in the lead section it says:
+<nowiki>== Further reading ==</nowiki>
-:: ''In 2019, Epcot hosted 12.444 million guests, ranking it as the fourth-most-visited theme park in North America and the seventh-most-visited theme park in the world.''
+<nowiki>* {{cite web |title=Barbie's Dirty Secrets |url=https://www.channel4.com/programmes/barbies-dirty-secrets-dispatches |website=[[Dispatches]] |publisher=[[Channel 4]] <!-- |access-date=13 October 2024 -->}}</nowiki>
-:it does not say
+[[Special:Contributions/69.181.17.113|69.181.17.113]] ([[User talk:69.181.17.113|talk]]) 07:58, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
-:: ''In 2019, The Walt Disney Company hosted 12.444 million guests at Epcot, ranking it as the fourth-most-visited theme park in North America and the seventh-most-visited theme park in the world.''
+*{{notdone}}: The problem with this is that it is an online TV show from [[Channel 4]] and would only be watchable in the UK.--'''''[[User:ianmacm|<span style="background:#88b;color:#cff;font-variant:small-caps">♦Ian<span style="background:#99c">Ma<span style="background:#aad">c</span></span>M♦</span>]] <sup>[[User_talk:ianmacm|(talk to me)]]</sup>''''' 08:19, 13 October 2024 (UTC)
-: because Epcot is a business of sufficient complexity to be the subject of an article in its own right, and not just as a venture of the Walt Disney Company. you can observe similar wording in other systems of products, like [[iPhone]]. does this make sense?
-: [[User:IsadoraofIbiza|<span style="color: #ff50aa; font-family: serif;">isadora of ibiza</span>]] [[User talk:IsadoraofIbiza|<span style="color: #ff50aa;">(talk)</span>]] 03:49, 20 October 2023 (UTC)