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== Citation param language=en == |
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Hi, Voidxor, and thanks for [[Special:Diff/1203951314|your contribution]] to [[Zhurong (rover)]]. Please note that you shouldn't remove parameter {{para|language|en}} when you find it in a citation template. Saying it ''is only necessary for non-English sources'' is not quite right, because it isn't necessary for non-English sources either; in fact, no parameters are necessary and you can code the whole thing in plain text without a citation template at all, and still meet the [[WP:Verifiability]] standard. However, the citation template offers multiple benefits, one of which is providing structured metadata that is easily machine-readable; adding {{para|language|en}} takes it one step further, and is helpful, not hurtful. That doesn't mean you have to have it, and I wouldn't normally bother adding it if it's not already there (although I sometimes do, when an English book has a foreign-sounding title, like, let's say, {{para|title|Mein Kampf}}{{para|language|en}}). But if it's already there, or if you feel like adding it, it has metadata benefits, and also improves verifiability for translators who pick up our English article and translate it into French, or whatever. So, if you see the {{para|language|en}} params, please just leave them in place. Thanks again for your improvements to the encyclopedia! [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 01:43, 7 February 2024 (UTC) |
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: Wow. The whole "If XYZ isn't necessary, then ABC must not be necessary either!!" argument is one of the silliest red herrings I sometimes see around here. Grow up. And no, I'm not formatting citations as plain text. |
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: Red herrings aside, see [[Template:Cite web]] for my reasoning. In the template list near the bottom, it says, "The language in which the source is written, if not English." After all, this is the English Wikipedia; English is the default. Furthermore, [[MOS:MARKUP]] says to omit unnecessary markup because it impedes editing and stands to confuse and discourage new editors. — <kbd>[[User:voidxor|<span style="color: blue">void</span>]][[User talk:voidxor|<span style="color: black">xor</span>]]</kbd> 13:04, 7 February 2024 (UTC) |
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:: Sorry, I must've been unclear. I never said, nor meant to imply, that "If XYZ isn't necessary, then ABC must not be necessary"; I was trying to show a parallelism of user choice where multiple valid options are available. It is a fact of Wikipedia policy that the use of citation templates is in no way required to uphold [[WP:Verifiablity]] of content (plain text citations are just as valid); however, they may be used if desired. It is also a fact that when a citation template is used by choice, there is no requirement to use the {{para|language}} parameter; however, the parameter may be used if desired regardless of the source language. I hope that is clearer. |
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:: You're right about {{tl|cite web}}, somebody added that to the TemplateData section, likely for the benefit of VE users, and that's their opinion, but just like anything on a Template doc page, it's just a bunch of helpful opinions by volunteer editors, neither a policy, nor a guideline. Follow it, if you find it helpful. (I wrote bits of it; hopefully they are both accurate, and helpful.) {{tl|Cite book}} happens not to include that same wording that you quoted, probably because somebody else wrote that part of the /doc there; doesn't mean the {{para|language}} param should be handled any differently for books vs. web resources. |
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:: Personally, I don't find anything at [[MOS:MARKUP]] germane to the question of what citation parameters should or shouldn't be used, for two reasons: if you look at [[Template:Cite web#Usage]], you'll see that the "Most commonly used parameters" example has nine params, and right under that, the full set has several dozen. Does [[MOS:MARKUP]] restrict using those additional parameters? I don't think so, otherwise, why have them? But there's a more important reason: the citation templates are neither HTML nor CSS markup, they are part of [[mw:Help:Template|MediaWiki-designed software]] that augments HTML/CSS to provide [[H:TRANS|transcludability]], so MOS:MARKUP doesn't apply to templates. |
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:: I'm sure you noticed I didn't revert your removal of the {{para|language|en}} because it's valid both ways. Something to keep in mind, is that [[MOS:VAR]] does say you shouldn't flip from one valid format to another valid one just because you prefer it, and that may apply here. I won't revert you if you flip them, because MOS:VAR still applies just as much after you remove them, as before; it's just that there's no advantage to removing it in the first place. Hope this clarifies what I meant to say. Happy editing! [[User:Mathglot|Mathglot]] ([[User talk:Mathglot|talk]]) 11:45, 8 February 2024 (UTC) |
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== Bicolour laser harp in laser harp page == |
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Hi, thank you for advicing me about COI, but I just added a reference on a topic written almost 12 years ago (not by me but speaking of my person of course since I am the inventor) about the invention of the bicolour laser harp. Since the invention changed the way to play laser harps around the world (you can find the same description in many languages verions on wikipedia) and since someone else adviced the a reference was needed in the description >I undid and added that reference. I had the bicoulour idea in 2008 and I called the machine Kromalaser. I am not interested after 14 years in advertising the Kromalaser (as other people is doing with their brand in the same wikipedia page lying on informations...), but I think that it is not fair to delete the paragraph about the invention and the improvement I made on the original instrument. since then all laser harps made in the world use my idea to distinguish tomic and diatonic by colour. So please I promis not to edit by myself the page again, but please put back the paragraph that was there since 12 years or suggest me what is the most correct thing to do to put it back. Best wishes.As you can understand I am an inventor, not a wikipedia expert at all. [[User:MaurizioCarelli|MaurizioCarelli]] ([[User talk:MaurizioCarelli|talk]]) 13:01, 29 February 2024 (UTC) |
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Welcome, welcome, welcome Voidxor! I'm glad that you are joining the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced articles/Backlog drives/November 2024|November 2024 drive]]! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles. |
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: {{Reply to|DreamRimmer Alt}} Thank you! This was fun. Something is wrong with the final tally, though. I fixed 5 articles and did 10 reviews. I don't appear to be getting credit for the latter. Would you please double check? — <kbd>[[User:voidxor|<span style="color: blue">void</span>]][[User talk:voidxor|<span style="color: black">xor</span>]]</kbd> 16:43, 15 December 2024 (UTC) |
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::You used a lowercase 'v' in your review section name on the reviews page, so your points were not counted because the bot's search was case-sensitive. I have manually updated your points in this message. Thank you so much for volunteering! – [[User:DreamRimmer|<span style="color:black">'''DreamRimmer'''</span>]] <small>([[User talk:DreamRimmer|'''talk''']])</small> 16:52, 15 December 2024 (UTC) |
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[edit]Hello, I'd like to say thanks for 'thanking' my proposed deleted message for the article. GoodHue291 (talk) 00:38, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
A barnstar for you! (June 2024 backlog drive)
[edit]Thanks for participating in the June 2024 backlog drive!
You scored 51 points while adding citations to articles during WikiProject Reliability's first {{citation needed}} backlog drive, earning you this original barnstar. Thanks for helping out! |
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- Thanks, Adam! That was a lot of fun. I only wish I'd had more time to throw at it. — voidxor 23:09, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
Welcome to the drive!
[edit]Welcome, welcome, welcome Voidxor! I'm glad that you are joining the November 2024 drive! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles.
Cielquiparle (talk) 13:24, 1 November 2024 (UTC)
CS1 error on Yupo (manufacturer)
[edit]Hello, I'm Qwerfjkl (bot). I have automatically detected that this edit performed by you, on the page Yupo (manufacturer), may have introduced referencing errors. They are as follows:
- A bare URL error. References show this error when one of the URL-containing parameters cannot be paired with an associated title. Please edit the article to add the appropriate title parameter to the reference. (Fix | Ask for help)
Please check this page and fix the errors highlighted. If you think this is a false positive, you can report it to my operator. Thanks, Qwerfjkl (bot) (talk) 17:26, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
November 2024 WikiProject Unreferenced articles backlog drive – award
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This award is given in recognition to Voidxor for collecting more than 10.0 points during the WikiProject Unreferenced articles's NOV24 backlog drive. Your contributions played a crucial role in sourcing over 8,000 unsourced articles during the drive. Thank you so much for participating and helping to reduce the backlog! – DreamRimmer Alt (talk) 18:11, 12 December 2024 (UTC) |
- @DreamRimmer Alt: Thank you! This was fun. Something is wrong with the final tally, though. I fixed 5 articles and did 10 reviews. I don't appear to be getting credit for the latter. Would you please double check? — voidxor 16:43, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- You used a lowercase 'v' in your review section name on the reviews page, so your points were not counted because the bot's search was case-sensitive. I have manually updated your points in this message. Thank you so much for volunteering! – DreamRimmer (talk) 16:52, 15 December 2024 (UTC)