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== Some notable stories as chosen by Jack Zipes ==
==Dungeon scene==
*After the Queen takes the potion, she runs down to the Dungeon and comes upon a skelaton trying to reach through the bars to a jug of Water just of of reach. With glee she kicks the bones around. {Skelaton-is Humbert?}
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==The Evil Queen in popular culture==
*I have added the reference to Ellen Reid's song "In Defense of the Wicked Queen", since it is completely about this character. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Linkcorreon|Linkcorreon]] ([[User talk:Linkcorreon|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Linkcorreon|contribs]]) 00:42, 16 May 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


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== Another TV version? ==

I remember little about it, except that it was animated. It may have been from wannabe-Japanese company Saban. (They have adapted other fairy tales)
Nonetheless, what stuck out to me about it was that the Queen tries to kill Snow White by crushing her chest/suffocating her with a bodice lace she sells her. It knocks her out like the apple in the usual versions. Anyone have further information?


As a TV version, Rocky and Bullwinkle's Fractured Fairy Tale can be added to this list.
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==Lead image==
Every image this article has gets deleted. We need a new permanent image. I want to get this article up to Feature Article status because I feel it has potential. --[[User:Jupiter Optimus Maximus|Jupiter Optimus Maximus]] ([[User talk:Jupiter Optimus Maximus|talk]]) 18:47, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
:The article has ''quite a few'' problems that need sorted before FA - no citations, the odd handling of the Grimm brothers (they didn't adapt it, they collected it; and the 'German version' ''is'' the Grimm version, but they get separate sections?) In any case, an image from an early illustrated Grimm's would work, eg [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Snow_White] (the Franz Jüttner ones are great, but I his pictures of the queen are less recognizable than the other characters. There's 3 of the queen:[http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Franz_J%C3%BCttner_Schneewittchen_1.jpg] [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Franz_J%C3%BCttner_Schneewittchen_4.jpg] [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Franz_J%C3%BCttner_Schneewittchen_6.jpg]). There's this on Gutenberg: [http://www.gutenberg.org/files/19068/19068-h/images/illus-239.jpg] (thats in [http://www.gutenberg.org/files/19068/19068-h/19068-h.htm#illus-239], a reprint of a work published 1886). They also have this Dutch edition with fantastic drawings, no queen but worth a look: [http://www.gutenberg.org/files/22555/22555-h/22555-h.htm]. I'll add one to the page. [[User:Bazzargh|Bazzargh]] ([[User talk:Bazzargh|talk]]) 20:35, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
::Thank you, Bazzargh old friend. I was of the impression that the German version was a varient of the tale which was adapted by the Grimm Brothers. If not I'll remove the section on the original German fairytale. Thanks for downloading that image though if I may say so I don't think it's an ideal representation of the queen. After all it depicts her in her "hag" shape rather than her true form. --[[User:Jupiter Optimus Maximus|Jupiter Optimus Maximus]] ([[User talk:Jupiter Optimus Maximus|talk]]) 21:30, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
:::No, they collected the tales from storytellers. The first edition was a scholarly work; though they changed the tales a little when it took off as a kid's book (even the edited stories are much more bloodthirsty than the versions in kids books today!). I've just updated the Grimm section, I had a copy of the complete tales next to the computer, handily enough. As for the image; yes, well there's quite a few mirror-mirror pics on the commons, but they're not as pretty as this one, and the mirror doesn't look especially magical in any of them; the poisoned apple pic is a bit more identifiable I think. If you want to change it go ahead, but at least you're not cursed with non-free images now [[User:Bazzargh|Bazzargh]] ([[User talk:Bazzargh|talk]]) 21:54, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

==Fairest of All: A Tale of the Wicked Queen does not exist==
I looked all over for that book and i could not find it, that should be deleted! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/24.7.204.40|24.7.204.40]] ([[User talk:24.7.204.40|talk]]) 02:38, 15 February 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== A tale of terror ==

Lilliana should be Lily. Lilliana is Lily's birth mother. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.171.137.192|71.171.137.192]] ([[User talk:71.171.137.192|talk]]) 18:29, 20 March 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Dose Ever After High count as other media or TV series? ==

The Mattel franchise Ever After High feature's both an Evil Queen and her daughter who's fated to relive her footsteps, I couldn't see any mention of it on the page and I was wondering if anyone else though that adding it would be appropriate?

[[User:Professore Doom|Professore Doom]] ([[User talk:Professore Doom|talk]]) 18:17, 4 March 2016 (UTC)professore_saberhagen[[User:Professore Doom|Professore Doom]] ([[User talk:Professore Doom|talk]]) 18:17, 4 March 2016 (UTC)


Patrick de Heriz, Snow White (1926); Anne Sexton, Snow White (1971); Olga Broumas, Snow White (1977); Roald Dahl, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1982); Joni Crone, No White and the Seven Big Brothers (1985); Clodagh Corcoran, Ms Snow White Wins Case in High Course (1989); Gwen Strauss, Confessions of a Witch (1990); The Seventh Dwarf (1990); Tanith Lee, Snow Drop (1993) [[Special:Contributions/94.254.154.204|94.254.154.204]] ([[User talk:94.254.154.204|talk]]) 23:26, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
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== When did "only half of an apple motif poisoned" start? ==
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It's recurring in adaptations, but was it in Grimm's tale or any of its early revisions? [[Special:Contributions/94.254.154.204|94.254.154.204]] ([[User talk:94.254.154.204|talk]]) 01:37, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
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The list of films and honestly all adaptions should probably resemble more the current article for [[Fairy godmother|Fairy Godmother]]. Just a list and like maybe a little blurb about it? Idk im new to this but like there's so much info on this page for these movies that have their own wikipedia pages??? Also the only sources for a lot of it is 2 books.
== Writing ==


[[User:Penelope808|Penelope808]] ([[User talk:Penelope808|talk]]) 03:22, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
The writing of this article needs an overhaul. I wish I had the patience... Am hoping my leaving this message here will encourage someone else to tackle the job. To that person I say, "Best of luck to you!" [[User:KDS4444|KDS4444]] ([[User talk:KDS4444|talk]]) 07:47, 12 April 2017 (UTC)


== Requested move 1 April 2018 ==
== Problems with this article ==


I have a lot of questions about this article. Why is there a separate bibliography and citations section? Why are there so many unnecessary citations(why are we citing ''Muppet Babies' Classic Children's Tales''?)? Why is there a list of adaptations with literally nothing in it? What is going on with the interpretations section?
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I think a lot of this article just needs a total overhaul. I unfortunately don't have the time right now but hopefully somebody else does. [[User:Heyitsthatdudeben|Heyitsthatdudeben]] ([[User talk:Heyitsthatdudeben|talk]]) 00:36, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
[[:Queen (Snow White)]] → ? – In the fairy tale, [[Snow White]], there are two queens mentioned, this one is Snow White's stepmother, the other is her biological mother. The article title should be changed to distinguish Snow White's stepmother from her biological mother. [[Special:Contributions/2601:183:101:58D0:5DBD:CC8D:4DCE:C16B|2601:183:101:58D0:5DBD:CC8D:4DCE:C16B]] ([[User talk:2601:183:101:58D0:5DBD:CC8D:4DCE:C16B|talk]]) 18:48, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
*'''Move''' to <s>[[Evil Queen (Snow White)]]</s> [[Evil Queen]], since the other one is called the Good Queen.<sub><small>[[User:Zxcvbnm|ZXCVBNM]] ([[User Talk:Zxcvbnm|TALK]])</small></sub> 10:57, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
**How about moving the page to [[Evil Queen]]? It already redirects there. [[Special:Contributions/2601:183:101:58D0:8D61:F6A8:8FF6:8ADE|2601:183:101:58D0:8D61:F6A8:8FF6:8ADE]] ([[User talk:2601:183:101:58D0:8D61:F6A8:8FF6:8ADE|talk]]) 19:13, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
***Alright, that makes sense. I've revised my initial comment.<sub><small>[[User:Zxcvbnm|ZXCVBNM]] ([[User Talk:Zxcvbnm|TALK]])</small></sub> 19:38, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

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Some notable stories as chosen by Jack Zipes

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Patrick de Heriz, Snow White (1926); Anne Sexton, Snow White (1971); Olga Broumas, Snow White (1977); Roald Dahl, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1982); Joni Crone, No White and the Seven Big Brothers (1985); Clodagh Corcoran, Ms Snow White Wins Case in High Course (1989); Gwen Strauss, Confessions of a Witch (1990); The Seventh Dwarf (1990); Tanith Lee, Snow Drop (1993) 94.254.154.204 (talk) 23:26, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

When did "only half of an apple motif poisoned" start?

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It's recurring in adaptations, but was it in Grimm's tale or any of its early revisions? 94.254.154.204 (talk) 01:37, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This Article needs to be rethought out.

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The list of films and honestly all adaptions should probably resemble more the current article for Fairy Godmother. Just a list and like maybe a little blurb about it? Idk im new to this but like there's so much info on this page for these movies that have their own wikipedia pages??? Also the only sources for a lot of it is 2 books.

Penelope808 (talk) 03:22, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Problems with this article

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I have a lot of questions about this article. Why is there a separate bibliography and citations section? Why are there so many unnecessary citations(why are we citing Muppet Babies' Classic Children's Tales?)? Why is there a list of adaptations with literally nothing in it? What is going on with the interpretations section?

I think a lot of this article just needs a total overhaul. I unfortunately don't have the time right now but hopefully somebody else does. Heyitsthatdudeben (talk) 00:36, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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