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The result was redirect‎ to Just Stop Oil Sunflowers protest. Owen× ☎ 17:47, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Anna Holland

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At Template:Did you know nominations/Phoebe Plummer, I argued that this BLP does not meet the independent notability standards of WP:CRIMINAL; the article creator disagreed. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:28, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Crime, Environment, and United Kingdom. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:28, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Perhaps more input from others here. It was a protest, and in some ways exactly the result they were looking for. She was sentenced to prison time. — Maile (talk) 17:13, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I don't doubt that Maile66, but is that relevant to the notability criteria? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:13, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The protest might be notable, this person likely isn't. Oaktree b (talk) 17:02, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:47, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete pet WP:NOT. The last time I looked, we were not a a hagiography. Bearian (talk) 02:57, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: This very much looks like WP:BLP1E. Am I missing something? TarnishedPath^talk 11:28, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Launchballer? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:29, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 14:09, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

~~Delete~~ : Throwing soup at a painting isn't quite the level of criminal notability we look for... Could be mentioned in a brief article about the incident itself, not warranting an article for the individual. Or a one line mention in the article about the painting. Oaktree b (talk) 17:01, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Just Stop Oil Sunflowers protest seems like a fine alternative, I wasn't aware the article already existed. Oaktree b (talk) 17:04, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The subject of the article has received sustained international coverage over multiple years for their climate protests, and WP:GNG is met. WP:BLP1E doesn't apply here because this is not a "a low-profile individual" and their "role was both substantial and well documented." GeorgiaHuman (talk) 20:56, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Getting arrested at a protest in 2022? That's trivial coverage; most of the coverage is focused on the soup throwing incident. Oaktree b (talk) 21:04, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect - I'm not seeing much coverage for her specifically that isn't about her involvement in the protest, and we already have an article for the protest itself meaning that's a better alternative than deleting the article outright. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:09, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect per Oaktree b, I'm not seeing independent notablity from the soup throwing event. TarnishedPath^talk 03:24, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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 At [[Template:Did you know nominations/Phoebe Plummer]], I argued that this BLP does not meet the independent notability standards of [[WP:CRIMINAL]]; the article creator disagreed. [[User:AirshipJungleman29|&#126;~ AirshipJungleman29]] ([[User talk:AirshipJungleman29|talk]]) 13:28, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
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+*'''Keep''' - Perhaps more input from others here. It was a protest, and in some ways exactly the result they were looking for. She was sentenced to prison time. [[User:Maile66|— Maile ]] ([[User talk:Maile66|talk]]) 17:13, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
+**I don't doubt that {{u|Maile66}}, but is that relevant to the notability criteria? [[User:AirshipJungleman29|&#126;~ AirshipJungleman29]] ([[User talk:AirshipJungleman29|talk]]) 15:13, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
+*:The protest might be notable, this person likely isn't. [[User:Oaktree b|Oaktree b]] ([[User talk:Oaktree b|talk]]) 17:02, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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+*'''Delete''' pet [[WP:NOT]]. The last time I looked, we were not a a [[hagiography]]. [[User:Bearian|Bearian]] ([[User talk:Bearian|talk]]) 02:57, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
+* '''Comment''': This very much looks like [[WP:BLP1E]]. Am I missing something? ''[[User:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#ff0000;">Tar</b><b style="color:#ff7070;">nis</b><b style="color:#ffa0a0;">hed</b><b style="color:#420000;">Path</b>]]''<sup>[[User talk:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#bd4004;">talk</b>]]</sup> 11:28, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
+**{{u|Launchballer}}? [[User:AirshipJungleman29|&#126;~ AirshipJungleman29]] ([[User talk:AirshipJungleman29|talk]]) 00:29, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
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+* <s> '''Delete''' </s>: Throwing soup at a painting isn't quite the level of criminal notability we look for... Could be mentioned in a brief article about the incident itself, not warranting an article for the individual. Or a one line mention in the article about the painting.  [[User:Oaktree b|Oaktree b]] ([[User talk:Oaktree b|talk]]) 17:01, 10 December 2024 (UTC) <!--VCB Oaktree b-->
+* '''Redirect''' to [[Just Stop Oil Sunflowers protest]] seems like a fine alternative, I wasn't aware the article already existed. [[User:Oaktree b|Oaktree b]] ([[User talk:Oaktree b|talk]]) 17:04, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
+*'''Keep'''. The subject of the article has received sustained international coverage over multiple years for their climate protests, and [[WP:GNG]] is met. [[WP:BLP1E]] doesn't apply here because this is not a "a low-profile individual" and their "role was both substantial and well documented." [[User:GeorgiaHuman|GeorgiaHuman]] ([[User talk:GeorgiaHuman|talk]]) 20:56, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
+*:Getting arrested at a protest in 2022? That's trivial coverage; most of the coverage is focused on the soup throwing incident. [[User:Oaktree b|Oaktree b]] ([[User talk:Oaktree b|talk]]) 21:04, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
+*'''Redirect''' - I'm not seeing much coverage for her specifically that isn't about her involvement in the protest, and we already have an article for the protest itself meaning that's a better alternative than deleting the article outright. [[User:Narutolovehinata5|<B><span style="color:#0038A8">Naruto</span><span style="color:#FCD116">love</span><span style="color:#CE1126">hinata</span>5</B>]] ([[User talk:Narutolovehinata5|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Narutolovehinata5|contributions]]) 03:09, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
+*'''Redirect''' per Oaktree b, I'm not seeing independent notablity from the soup throwing event. ''[[User:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#ff0000;">Tar</b><b style="color:#ff7070;">nis</b><b style="color:#ffa0a0;">hed</b><b style="color:#420000;">Path</b>]]''<sup>[[User talk:TarnishedPath|<b style="color:#bd4004;">talk</b>]]</sup> 03:24, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
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