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I just created this wikiproject, after several months of contemplating doing so. I hope everyone working on hurricane articles will get involved. I went ahead and wrote a bunch of guidelines, basically based on current practices...naturally since this is something I just wrote it doesn't necessarily represent community consensus and needs to be discussed. That discussion should probably go here for now...although eventually we may make these pages a little more structured. For a general TODO list, see the "tasks" item on the project page. [[User:Jdorje|Jdorje]] 23:17, 5 October 2005 (UTC) |
I just created this wikiproject, after several months of contemplating doing so. I hope everyone working on hurricane articles will get involved. I went ahead and wrote a bunch of guidelines, basically based on current practices...naturally since this is something I just wrote it doesn't necessarily represent community consensus and needs to be discussed. That discussion should probably go here for now...although eventually we may make these pages a little more structured. For a general TODO list, see the "tasks" item on the project page. [[User:Jdorje|Jdorje]] 23:17, 5 October 2005 (UTC) |
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== Track map update == |
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I realized that the effort to update the track maps is far from over. I wondered if we should have a task force, and maybe a recruitment drive to get editors to help. ♫ [[User:Hurricanehink|Hurricanehink]] (<small>[[User_talk:Hurricanehink|talk]]</small>) 00:16, 17 November 2024 (UTC) |
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⚫ | :I found [https://trackgen.codingcactus.codes/ this] a year or so ago but I am not sure how official it is. [[User:Quxyz|<span style="color: goldenrod">✶Qux</span>]][[User talk:Quxyz|<span style="color: goldenrod">yz</span>]][[special:contributions/Quxyz|<span style="color: goldenrod">✶</span>]] 01:13, 17 November 2024 (UTC) |
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⚫ | ::Adding on, I might be willing to help with updating tracks but I need to know where to access BT files and the proper software (if the above is not good). [[User:Quxyz|<span style="color: goldenrod">✶Qux</span>]][[User talk:Quxyz|<span style="color: goldenrod">yz</span>]][[special:contributions/Quxyz|<span style="color: goldenrod">✶</span>]] 01:33, 17 November 2024 (UTC) |
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::::Well, I exclusively use it as the difference to the common eye is minimal in my honest opinion. [[User:Tavantius|Tavantius]] ([[User talk:Tavantius|talk]]) 16:24, 28 November 2024 (UTC) |
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What if we had more of an incentive to make the track maps? Another user I was chatting with - {{user|TheNuggeteer}} - talked about having another hurricane cup next year. What if we had an editor competition, and included making track maps as one of the ways to get points? Separately, we could also have bonus points for articles about meteorology instead of single events. Just trying to find a creative solution to this problem. ♫ [[User:Hurricanehink|Hurricanehink]] (<small>[[User_talk:Hurricanehink|talk]]</small>) 22:19, 17 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:Sure! Though I'm not sure about the Meteorology one. Maybe the participants can decide. <code>[[User:TheNuggeteer|🍗TheNugg]][[User talk:TheNuggeteer|eteer🍗]] (''[[User:TheNuggeteer/Guestbook|My '''"blotter"''']]'') </code> 04:34, 18 November 2024 (UTC) |
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::What exactly does it take for one to generate the track maps, as in, what type of software and level of technology proficiency? Because if there's a certain software or application needed to make the track maps, then it doesn't seem fair to make it part of the Cyclone Cup if not everyone can download/have access to it. [[User:JayTee32|<span style="color:#0037ff">Jay</span>]][[User_talk:JayTee32|<span style="color:#00e9ff">Tee</span>]]⛈️ 17:55, 20 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:::{{ping|JayTee32}} You basically need Linux (though not Android or ChromeOS), [[Windows Subsystem for Linux]] (Windows 10 or later), or Unix (including macOS). Basically all major desktop operating systems.--[[User:Jasper Deng|Jasper Deng]] [[User talk:Jasper Deng|(talk)]] 07:06, 21 November 2024 (UTC) |
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::::{{ping|JayTee32}} As for proficiency: you need basic knowledge of [[bash (Unix)]].--[[User:Jasper Deng|Jasper Deng]] [[User talk:Jasper Deng|(talk)]] 07:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC) |
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== Good article reassessment for [[Hurricane Allen]] == |
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[[Hurricane Allen]] has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you would like to participate, please leave your comments in the [[Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Hurricane Allen/1|reassessment discussion]]. —'''[[User:JCMLuis|<span style="background:linear-gradient(90deg,#178f5a,#22d486);-webkit-background-clip:text;-webkit-text-fill-color:transparent;"><span style="font-size:75%;">JCM</span>Luis</span>]]''' [[User Talk:JCMLuis|💬]] 17:52, 21 November 2024 (UTC) |
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I want to help the Tropical Cyclone WikiProject in any way. Can I please join, because I “wanna go for a spin”. [[User:HurricaneKirk2024|HurricaneKirk2024]] ([[User talk:HurricaneKirk2024|talk]]) 02:24, 16 October 2024 (UTC) |
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== Paleotempestology update == |
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:I’m just obsessed with hurricanes tbh and Nadine (Invest 94L) is coming so [[User:HurricaneKirk2024|HurricaneKirk2024]] ([[User talk:HurricaneKirk2024|talk]]) 02:25, 16 October 2024 (UTC) |
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::If you want to join WPTC, you can add your name to the current members at the bottom of the list, under the last person who joined. You can then add the following to your user page. Based on your editing history and comments I recommend you become familiar with Wikipedia's style of writing and core policies so you can start editing tropical cyclone articles. Also note you don't have to ask permission to join a Wikiproject or make an edit. [[User:JayTee32|<span style="color:#0037ff">Jay</span>]][[User_talk:JayTee32|<span style="color:#00e9ff">Tee</span>]]⛈️ 16:09, 16 October 2024 (UTC) |
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Anyone who can help update [[Paleotempestology]] with [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?as_ylo=2024&q=%22paleotempestology%22+OR+%22palaeotempestology%22+OR+%22paleotempestological%22+OR+%22palaeotempestological%22&hl=de&as_sdt=0,5 these sources]? The sheer number is starting to wear me out. [[User:Jo-Jo Eumerus|Jo-Jo Eumerus]] ([[User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus|talk]]) 15:50, 24 November 2024 (UTC) |
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== Climate Change effects on hurricanes == |
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== Proposal: Moratorium on including unofficial United States damage totals == |
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Should we mention the effects of climate change on hurricanes in every hurricane article? There appears to be no consensus, with some people wanting to make climate change info its own subsection, others wanting to just add a paragraph on it, and a third group that does not want to add it at all for repetition/RS issues(since [[Tropical cyclones and climate change]] applies to every tropical cyclone). [[User:Wildfireupdateman|Wildfireupdateman]] ([[User talk:Wildfireupdateman|talk]]) 20:06, 16 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:Personally I think no. It comes up with almost every landfalling major hurricane, because there happen to be sources that talk about it. For example, if the climate change bit was about rainfall, or higher water temperatures, just mention them without the "climate change", which is more about the broad patterns and not any individual storm. ♫ [[User:Hurricanehink|Hurricanehink]] (<small>[[User_talk:Hurricanehink|talk]]</small>) 15:31, 17 October 2024 (UTC) |
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I noticed that there are some big claims regarding storms from the [[2024 Atlantic hurricane season]], but there isn't an official damage total for the United States yet for Helene or Milton. The National Center for Information (NCEI) has a [https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/billions/events/US/2024?disasters list of billion dollar disasters] from this year, which includes Helene and Milton, as they are obviously on the list, but I'm uncomfortable having individual unofficial damage totals until we have a final estimate, especially when it comes to claims such as costliest or other records. Therefore, I propose that there is a moratorium on including unofficial United States damage totals, until there is an official estimate for a storm's ranking from NCEI or another official United States government agency. ♫ [[User:Hurricanehink|Hurricanehink]] (<small>[[User_talk:Hurricanehink|talk]]</small>) 00:05, 8 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== Draft for PTC Eight? == |
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== List of South America hurricanes nominated for featured list removal == |
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I think we need an article/draft for Eight. It caused one (indirect) fatality, and made minor flooding in the Carolinas. This “tropical disturbance” only lasted two days; but with enough sources, I think it might be able to have an article. |
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I have nominated [[List of South America hurricanes]] for featured list removal. Please [[Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/List of South America hurricanes/archive1|'''join the discussion''']] on whether this article meets the [[Wikipedia:What is a featured list?|featured list criteria]]. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are [[Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates|here]].<!-- Template:FLRCMessage --> [[User:Yilku1|Yilku1]] ([[User talk:Yilku1|talk]]) 16:03, 15 December 2024 (UTC) |
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* To be honest, I think '''any storm that causes a fatality''' should have an article. |
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[[User:HurricaneKirk2024|HurricaneKirk2024]] ([[User talk:HurricaneKirk2024|talk]]) 16:32, 17 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:There's already a discussion about that on the 2024 AHS talk page. Also, that rule (any storm that causes a fatality gets an article) is impractical. Too many old historical storms that caused a death or two that couldn't support a sub-article. ♫ [[User:Hurricanehink|Hurricanehink]] (<small>[[User_talk:Hurricanehink|talk]]</small>) 16:40, 17 October 2024 (UTC) |
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::ok [[User:HurricaneKirk2024|HurricaneKirk2024]] ([[User talk:HurricaneKirk2024|talk]]) 17:18, 17 October 2024 (UTC) |
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== Article on wind pressure relationships == |
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== Requested move at [[Talk:Tropical Storm Conson (2021)#Requested move 8 September 2024]] == |
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[[File:Information.svg|30px|left]] There is a requested move discussion at [[Talk:Tropical Storm Conson (2021)#Requested move 8 September 2024]] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. [[User:Asilvering|asilvering]] ([[User talk:Asilvering|talk]]) 00:25, 21 October 2024 (UTC) |
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⚫ | Is there an article on methods of calculations of wind pressure relationships? I have seen some stuff about it (particularly Knaff-Zehr-Courtney on Atlantic TCRs) mentioned so it sounds encylopedic. I might also need some help with writing/reviewing as this is slightly outside my usual area of editing. [[User:Quxyz|<span style="color: goldenrod">✶Qux</span>]][[User talk:Quxyz|<span style="color: goldenrod">yz</span>]][[special:contributions/Quxyz|<span style="color: goldenrod">✶</span>]] 17:56, 15 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== Does being a Category 5 Pacific hurricane establish notability? == |
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Per the recommendation of @[[User:Jasper Deng|Jasper Deng]] I'm going to start a broader project discussion about this. As the subheading states, does being a Category 5 hurricane alone establish a Pacific hurricane as notable? Apparently there is standing project precedent that all Category 5 Pacific hurricanes get their own articles. I don't think this precedent should really be in place to begin with. While it's true Category 5 hurricanes are less common in the Pacific than the Atlantic, I think a storm intensifying to Category 5 status then weakening without affecting land or setting any meteorological records doesn't establish its notability. What's more, these storms generally don't receive news coverage that goes beyond stating what the NHC had already said about the storm intensity-wise, so this doesn't seem to meet the "Significant coverage" metric of [[WP:GNG]]. Additionally, simply stating the storm's meteorological history and data without any other significant information seems to be violating [[WP:NOTPLOT]]. Looking for comments on whether this precedent should stand as it directly affects an article for an [[2024 Pacific hurricane season#Hurricane Kristy|active storm]]. [[User:JayTee32|<span style="color:#0037ff">Jay</span>]][[User_talk:JayTee32|<span style="color:#00e9ff">Tee</span>]]⛈️ 00:29, 25 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:It should. [[WP:NOTPLOT]] applies to human works and does not apply to real-life events. [[Hurricane Celia (2010)]] is a similar storm to Kristy and although its records aren't truly records in the sense of first place in anything (except strongest June hurricane), they're enough to warrant a section. |
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:GNG is not a problem with the RS coverage we do have; the NHC is the [[WP:PRIMARY]] source with the other news articles the needed [[WP:SECONDARY]] sources. We can easily flesh out enough material to satisfy [[WP:SPLIT]] for all such storms. The question should be how do we serve our readers best, and Cat 5's are one of the most sought-after topics for readers in this basin.--[[User:Jasper Deng|Jasper Deng]] [[User talk:Jasper Deng|(talk)]] 00:43, 25 October 2024 (UTC) |
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::Very few sources join the two in the way Amanda and Cristobal did, so probably not. But that could be a better alternative than not having an article at all for Kristy.--[[User:Jasper Deng|Jasper Deng]] [[User talk:Jasper Deng|(talk)]] 00:58, 25 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:::I would agree as, if Kristy has no other notability, it would be the better route. For the conversation as a whole, I believe that Category 5s shouldn't have inherent notability. Possibly, they could have lower standards but fish-storm Category 5s without any records should not have articles. [[User:Quxyz|<span style="color: goldenrod">✶Qux</span>]][[User talk:Quxyz|<span style="color: goldenrod">yz</span>]][[special:contributions/Quxyz|<span style="color: goldenrod">✶</span>]] 01:02, 25 October 2024 (UTC) |
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::::Several sources directly connect the remnants of Nadine with the formation of Kristy, as will official season summaries and TCRs I'm sure. A combined Nadine–Kristy article would have both notability, and a depth that the Nadine article lacks due to its small-scale impact, and a Kristy article would lack due to it being a Category 5 fish storm without any records or land affects to its name. [[User:Drdpw|Drdpw]] ([[User talk:Drdpw|talk]]) 01:14, 25 October 2024 (UTC) |
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::::To the main subject of this discussion, [[Wikipedia:Notability#Whether to create standalone pages|not every notable topic needs a standalone pages]], or in this instance, not every Category 5 hurricane needs its own article. The question is, "how best to help readers understand the subject." For a system like Kristy, the best way might well be through a well written section in the season article. [[User:Drdpw|Drdpw]] ([[User talk:Drdpw|talk]]) 01:55, 25 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::Hard disagree. A reader looking into the intricacies of things like eyewall replacement cycles and the overall genesis process for the strongest storms will not be satisfied by the season article section. A reader coming from [[List of Category 5 Pacific hurricanes]] is also unlikely to be interested in the rest of the season. [[User:Jasper Deng|Jasper Deng]] [[User talk:Jasper Deng|(talk)]] 01:58, 25 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:While it is less common for a Pacific storm to reach category five, it seems to me that that alone isn't and shouldn't be enough for an article, as most people above have stated like Drdpw. [[User:Shmego|Shmego]] ([[User talk:Shmego|talk]]) 18:35, 27 October 2024 (UTC) |
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I'm suggesting adding PAGASA bulletins in the talk pages of typhoons. If you want to participate in the discussion, you can go [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tropical cyclones/Pacific typhoon task force#PAGASA Bulletins in talk pages|here]]. Thanks, <code>[[User:TheNuggeteer|🍗TheNugg]][[User talk:TheNuggeteer|eteer🍗]] (''[[User:TheNuggeteer/Guestbook|My '''"blotter"''']]'') </code> 23:52, 17 December 2024 (UTC) |
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Category 5 status does not confer notability automatically. To Jasper's point, eyewall replacement cycles are often mentioned in season articles, but if that only happens once, and the storm weakens over land, then it can easily be summarized in the season article. I could see storms like [[Hurricane Elida (2002)]] and [[Hurricane Hernan (2002)]] getting merged. I mention those two as examples because the [[2002 Pacific hurricane season]] is under 5,000 words, so an expansion is warranted. ♫ [[User:Hurricanehink|Hurricanehink]] (<small>[[User_talk:Hurricanehink|talk]]</small>) 02:04, 25 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:"Easily summarized in the season article" – don't think so. Kristy in particular is a two-peaked storm, and Pacific Category 5 hurricanes tend to be long-lived and have substantial history of their own, or be short-lived with land impacts. Kristy is in the former category.--[[User:Jasper Deng|Jasper Deng]] [[User talk:Jasper Deng|(talk)]] 02:06, 25 October 2024 (UTC) |
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::Kristy's met history can be easily summarized in the season section, we don't need to get into the intricacies of the storm's history and an article of such would be filler. [[User:JayTee32|<span style="color:#0037ff">Jay</span>]][[User_talk:JayTee32|<span style="color:#00e9ff">Tee</span>]]⛈️ 05:00, 25 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:::An article that provides details a reader wants is not "filler". The existing summary leaves open several questions, such as its structural evolution before peak.--[[User:Jasper Deng|Jasper Deng]] [[User talk:Jasper Deng|(talk)]] 05:45, 25 October 2024 (UTC) |
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::::We don't delve into the structural evolution of every single tropical cyclone in heavy detail nor do we need to, that caters to a very small proportion of readers. I stand by my point that Kristy's met history can easily be summarized with its season section. By your argument another fish storm like Hurricane Gilma, which underwent more structural evolutions than Kristy, deserves an article. [[User:JayTee32|<span style="color:#0037ff">Jay</span>]][[User_talk:JayTee32|<span style="color:#00e9ff">Tee</span>]]⛈️ 16:55, 25 October 2024 (UTC) |
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::*Noting that the draft Kristy article has been published; a case of dueling draft reviewers. [[User:Drdpw|Drdpw]] ([[User talk:Drdpw|talk]]) 20:43, 25 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:::'''Also, for the record,''' given the discussion here and on other talk pages, I do not see that there exists consensus that being a Category 5 Pacific hurricane alone establishes notability or qualifies a system for its own article automatically. [[User:Drdpw|Drdpw]] ([[User talk:Drdpw|talk]]) 23:52, 25 October 2024 (UTC) |
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:Replied on discussion page. <span style="background:#ffff55">'''''[[User:Chlod|Chlod]]'''''</span> <small style="font-size:calc(1em - 2pt)">([[User talk:Chlod|say hi!]])</small> 23:59, 17 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== Requested move at [[Talk:Hurricane Paul (1982)#Requested move 30 Oct 2024]] == |
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[edit]I just created this wikiproject, after several months of contemplating doing so. I hope everyone working on hurricane articles will get involved. I went ahead and wrote a bunch of guidelines, basically based on current practices...naturally since this is something I just wrote it doesn't necessarily represent community consensus and needs to be discussed. That discussion should probably go here for now...although eventually we may make these pages a little more structured. For a general TODO list, see the "tasks" item on the project page. Jdorje 23:17, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
Track map update
[edit]I realized that the effort to update the track maps is far from over. I wondered if we should have a task force, and maybe a recruitment drive to get editors to help. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:16, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- I found this a year or so ago but I am not sure how official it is. ✶Quxyz✶ 01:13, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Adding on, I might be willing to help with updating tracks but I need to know where to access BT files and the proper software (if the above is not good). ✶Quxyz✶ 01:33, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- That site is wholly unsuitable for generation due to the size of the images.--Jasper Deng (talk) 07:41, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Well, I exclusively use it as the difference to the common eye is minimal in my honest opinion. Tavantius (talk) 16:24, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- That site is wholly unsuitable for generation due to the size of the images.--Jasper Deng (talk) 07:41, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Adding on, I might be willing to help with updating tracks but I need to know where to access BT files and the proper software (if the above is not good). ✶Quxyz✶ 01:33, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
What if we had more of an incentive to make the track maps? Another user I was chatting with - TheNuggeteer (talk · contribs) - talked about having another hurricane cup next year. What if we had an editor competition, and included making track maps as one of the ways to get points? Separately, we could also have bonus points for articles about meteorology instead of single events. Just trying to find a creative solution to this problem. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 22:19, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
- Sure! Though I'm not sure about the Meteorology one. Maybe the participants can decide.
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04:34, 18 November 2024 (UTC)- What exactly does it take for one to generate the track maps, as in, what type of software and level of technology proficiency? Because if there's a certain software or application needed to make the track maps, then it doesn't seem fair to make it part of the Cyclone Cup if not everyone can download/have access to it. JayTee⛈️ 17:55, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
- @JayTee32: You basically need Linux (though not Android or ChromeOS), Windows Subsystem for Linux (Windows 10 or later), or Unix (including macOS). Basically all major desktop operating systems.--Jasper Deng (talk) 07:06, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @JayTee32: As for proficiency: you need basic knowledge of bash (Unix).--Jasper Deng (talk) 07:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- @JayTee32: You basically need Linux (though not Android or ChromeOS), Windows Subsystem for Linux (Windows 10 or later), or Unix (including macOS). Basically all major desktop operating systems.--Jasper Deng (talk) 07:06, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
- What exactly does it take for one to generate the track maps, as in, what type of software and level of technology proficiency? Because if there's a certain software or application needed to make the track maps, then it doesn't seem fair to make it part of the Cyclone Cup if not everyone can download/have access to it. JayTee⛈️ 17:55, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Good article reassessment for Hurricane Allen
[edit]Hurricane Allen has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you would like to participate, please leave your comments in the reassessment discussion. —JCMLuis 💬 17:52, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
Paleotempestology update
[edit]Anyone who can help update Paleotempestology with these sources? The sheer number is starting to wear me out. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk) 15:50, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
Proposal: Moratorium on including unofficial United States damage totals
[edit]I noticed that there are some big claims regarding storms from the 2024 Atlantic hurricane season, but there isn't an official damage total for the United States yet for Helene or Milton. The National Center for Information (NCEI) has a list of billion dollar disasters from this year, which includes Helene and Milton, as they are obviously on the list, but I'm uncomfortable having individual unofficial damage totals until we have a final estimate, especially when it comes to claims such as costliest or other records. Therefore, I propose that there is a moratorium on including unofficial United States damage totals, until there is an official estimate for a storm's ranking from NCEI or another official United States government agency. ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:05, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
List of South America hurricanes nominated for featured list removal
[edit]I have nominated List of South America hurricanes for featured list removal. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured list criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks; editors may declare to "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Yilku1 (talk) 16:03, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Article on wind pressure relationships
[edit]Is there an article on methods of calculations of wind pressure relationships? I have seen some stuff about it (particularly Knaff-Zehr-Courtney on Atlantic TCRs) mentioned so it sounds encylopedic. I might also need some help with writing/reviewing as this is slightly outside my usual area of editing. ✶Quxyz✶ 17:56, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
PAGASA bulletins
[edit]I'm suggesting adding PAGASA bulletins in the talk pages of typhoons. If you want to participate in the discussion, you can go here. Thanks, 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 (My "blotter")
23:52, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Replied on discussion page. Chlod (say hi!) 23:59, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
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